A Few Questions About Rooting And Stuff - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello!
I have just got a new LG G2!
I want to root it, but I'm a little bit confused atm:
1) Rooting the device using IORoot does not change the kernel or recovery, does it? (I'll be rooted runnig stock and won't be able to flash stuff)
2) If I want to create a nandroid backup, I have to flash first CWM/TWRP. So how can I make a nandroid backup for my current unrooted and runnig stock phone?
3) Can I backup my EFS files without a custum recovery (with root only)?
4) Is that correct that after each rom I flash, the phone needs to be rooted again?
Thanks!

1. Yes
2. You use the cwm. Or twrp to make the backup.
3. Not sure, have always been rooted sui never looked for a way to do that.
4. No, I've never had to reroot after installing any rom.
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unroot
Is there a way to unroot and leave no evidence that the phones been rooted. Im planning to return it and get another one. THanks in advance

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[Q] ParanoidAndroid - should I root before installing?

topic.
N4 is my 2nd Android phone (my 1st is an old HTC Magic) and have never rooted a device before.
I'd like to install PA. So do I need to root it first?
Also I have already installed some apps, I'd like to do backup before factory reset. What is the easiest way for this?
Thank you
Cool_Roxas said:
topic.
N4 is my 2nd Android phone (my 1st is an old HTC Magic) and have never rooted a device before.
I'd like to install PA. So do I need to root it first?
Also I have already installed some apps, I'd like to do backup before factory reset. What is the easiest way for this?
Thank you
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Firstly Install carbon backup app (like titanium backup) from the play store to backup your app and app data. It is good because you don't need to root your device in order to backup.
However in order to root, you need to unlock the bootloader which will delete everything from your phone. After that it is easy to root your phone using the guides in the forum. I suggest you don't use toolkit if you want to learn how everything works.
Only after rooting, you can install PA.
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You don't need to root. Open boot loader, install custom recovery preferably twrp and you can install the zip files you need. Roms come rooted by default you don't need to worry about that.
i think root will make it easy to install app
molesarecoming said:
You don't need to root. Open boot loader, install custom recovery preferably twrp and you can install the zip files you need. Roms come rooted by default you don't need to worry about that.
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Thanks moles. I didn't know that you didn't need to be rooted to your roms. I guess you learn something new everyday. Btw I love your PA roms. This is my first android device and PA is the only ROM I've ever flash. Keep the good work.
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[Q] Root

How to root nexus 7 with out install custom recovery...? which is the easy and safe method..?
Just download wugfresh' Nexus root toolkit. You can uncheck the custom recovery method under the root button.
But without a custom recovery you can't make backups, restore one or flash a custom without a PC. I don't recommend rooting without a custom recovery.
If you want a custom recovery after rooting without one, just get goo manager from the play store!
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Try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2233852
sdelange99 said:
But without a custom recovery you can't make backups, restore one or flash a custom without a PC. I don't recommend rooting without a custom recovery.
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If you take the time to understand the motochopper (no bootloader unlock) root process, you will easily realize that a backup can be taken of the pre-existing recovery even (safely) when the (rooted) OS is running. You can do this just before installing a custom recovery.
Code:
dd if=/dev/block/platform/sdhci-tegra.3/by-name/SOS of=/sdcard/stock-recovery-ver.Xxx.img
Once you have a safe (read: not the copy stored on the tablet) backup of the stock-recovery-ver.Xxxx.img file, you can flash a custom recovery and then restore back the saved copy at any time by reversing the roles of the input file (if=) and output file (of=) in the above "dd" command.
If you assume that "all I really need is this little root thingy and a few tweaks here and there, but no backups." you will end up regretting that decision. It is a better plan to assume that something will go wrong, and plan for that as if it were a certainty.
The more certain you are about not needing such protection, the more likely the chances are that you actually will need it.
good luck
gijokmr said:
How to root nexus 7 with out install custom recovery...? which is the easy and safe method..?
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Wug's will currently install 2.4.1.0 TWRP I think, but if you want to at a later time you can flash 2.5.0.0 via fastboot later. And as others said above, you'll want a custom recovery to be even 'safer', and it's a Nexus 7, it would be very hard for you to hard-brick it.
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Want stock recovery back

So I have an AT&T galaxy s4 and I rooted and installed TWRP recovery. I want to revert my s4 completely back to stock as in remove twrp recovery and unroot. Ive been trying to look for a way to get stock recovery back on my s4 but cant seem to find the answer. Please help me out!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40976805
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cloud628 said:
So I have an AT&T galaxy s4 and I rooted and installed TWRP recovery. I want to revert my s4 completely back to stock as in remove twrp recovery and unroot. Ive been trying to look for a way to get stock recovery back on my s4 but cant seem to find the answer. Please help me out!!!!!
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I did the "Casual" TWRP Recovery and Root for my AT&T S4 and love it. I booted into recovery and flashed a backup image of my stock device and saved the 3.56 GB nandoid file on both the internal and external SD and put another copy of my original phone image or nandroid or backup or whatever flavor you want to call it, on my PC.
I've frozen 37 phone functions with Titanium Backup and dodged a bullet. I heard there was another over the airwaves update from AT&T a couple days ago, and I am pleased to see it never appeared on my S4. I couldn't be happier. I have yet to try any custom roms as cyanogenmod doesn't seem to be getting any love lately, plus I would not want to give up the universal remote in the on board "watch on" app.
Why do you want to undo TWRP custom recovery and lose root? Titanium Backup needs root. Did you flash a custom rom without going into recovery first and making a backup of your stock handset once you got root and TWRP?
In any case I think there is an Odin thread you need to read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40976805
fukenbiker said:
I did the "Casual" TWRP Recovery and Root for my AT&T S4 and love it. I booted into recovery and flashed a backup image of my stock device and saved the 3.56 GB nandoid file on both the internal and external SD and put another copy of my original phone image or nandroid or backup or whatever flavor you want to call it, on my PC.
I've frozen 37 phone functions with Titanium Backup and dodged a bullet. I heard there was another over the airwaves update from AT&T a couple days ago, and I am pleased to see it never appeared on my S4. I couldn't be happier. I have yet to try any custom roms as cyanogenmod doesn't seem to be getting any love lately, plus I would not want to give up the universal remote in the on board "watch on" app.
Why do you want to undo TWRP custom recovery and lose root? Titanium Backup needs root. Did you flash a custom rom without going into recovery first and making a backup of your stock handset once you got root and TWRP?
In any case I think there is an Odin thread you need to read: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=40976805
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well.....Theres nothing wrong with TWRP recovery and root, its just that I have no need for it. I have tried a few custom roms and none offer battery life better than that of the stock TW software so I decided to just stay stock. As you said like 2 days ago at&t rolled out another OTA, however I dont think my phone installed it. It booted into TWRP and it started installing a zip. I wasnt sure if that was the OTA or not. I just dont need the TWRP and root as of now and its kind of a hastle in my current state to flash the new OTA's instead of having it automatically install via stock recovery.

LG G2- Making a Backup, and flashing a new ROM

Bought the Verizon G2, brought it home, rooted it. So basically I have nothing but Super Su and a crap ton of bloatware haha! Any threads showing me how to make a backup of what I have now, then a tutorial on how to flash a new ROM? I just wanna be safe having a backup recovery of the phone basically all stock with root acess.
Spentar said:
Bought the Verizon G2, brought it home, rooted it. So basically I have nothing but Super Su and a crap ton of bloatware haha! Any threads showing me how to make a backup of what I have now, then a tutorial on how to flash a new ROM? I just wanna be safe having a backup recovery of the phone basically all stock with root acess.
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You need to Loki first to get TWRP, check the Verizon sub for details. Once you do that you can make a back up of your current phone. Once compete, you can wipe data and flash a new Rom safely. Fyi, the flash takes a long time, just wait it out.
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Spentar said:
Bought the Verizon G2, brought it home, rooted it. So basically I have nothing but Super Su and a crap ton of bloatware haha! Any threads showing me how to make a backup of what I have now, then a tutorial on how to flash a new ROM? I just wanna be safe having a backup recovery of the phone basically all stock with root acess.
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I don't know what LOKI is, but if you're rooted then chose a recovery (twrp or cwm), install it, and then do a nandroid backup. Then you can flash whatever ROM or mod you want.
gunit25 said:
You need to Loki first to get TWRP, check the Verizon sub for details. Once you do that you can make a back up of your current phone. Once compete, you can wipe data and flash a new Rom safely. Fyi, the flash takes a long time, just wait it out.
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Pretty sure you don't need Loki...that's for devs only. TWRP is already pre-lokied for your convenience.
rfarrah said:
I don't know what LOKI is, but if you're rooted then chose a recovery (twrp or cwm), install it, and then do a nandroid backup. Then you can flash whatever ROM or mod you want.
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^Exactly. Though you should probably use TWRP.

[Q] General question about backing up

I'm just starting with android and planning on rooting my phone (vD800) eventually. I made a backup here: all settings> general> backup and reset but I don't think this is what I need for recovering from a failed root. What do I need to get so I can make an image of the phone? I have lots of questions but that'll do it for now.
You need to first root then install custom recovery then make a back up...
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scram99 said:
You need to first root then install custom recovery then make a back up...
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Ok that kind of goes against everything I know about computers but ok. What am I going to use for a failed root then? Where does my backup image come from? Thanks
brutusthegeek said:
Ok that kind of goes against everything I know about computers but ok. What am I going to use for a failed root then? Where does my backup image come from? Thanks
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What do you mean by failed root? I've never experienced such a thing. To root follow this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48709232&postcount=869
You don't replace the OS until after the custom recovery (such as TWRP) is installed. So after you install TWRP or whichever recovery you want just boot in to the recovery and then backup there. Then flash whichever ROM you want.
Ok I get the part about not replacing the OS until you are rooted. So just root it and if I fail post here and see if anyone can help?
I guess I'm just trying to be sure I understand what I'm getting into before I do something that could seriously mess up my phone.
You can use the LG backup app on your phone, it's quite good. Then move or copy the backup file to the computer for safekeeping. I did this when I downgraded back to jellybean from kitkat in order to root kitkat and it worked perfectly. There's nothing about the root process for jellybean that will hurt the phone or cause data loss.

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