cant see the difference between 1080p and 4k (while zooming) - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I have noticed that I cant see any difference between 1080p and 4k while zooming, since 4k has alot more pixels it should be much sharper but it isnt.. does anyone has the same problem?

TheNewLegend said:
Hi,
I have noticed that I cant see any difference between 1080p and 4k while zooming, since 4k has alot more pixels it should be much sharper but it isnt.. does anyone has the same problem?
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You will only see it if you have a 4k tv n3 only has 1080p display

jaythenut said:
You will only see it if you have a 4k tv n3 only has 1080p display
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Wait, wait, wait... we are speaking about Zoom here.. in 1:1 ration ofc you cant se 2160 pixels if your phone can only show them 1080 but when you zoom, lets say 4x zoom you only see 1/4 of the picture meaning it should be perfect, pixel per pixel, you get 1080p from 4x zoom of a 4K picture.. 4K is exactly 4 times larger...
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As seen here 1080p is 1/4 of 4k.. so whem 4x zoom you should get one quarter of 4k picture which makes it 1080p...
Am i doing it right?

ryanrazer said:
Wait, wait, wait... we are speaking about Zoom here.. in 1:1 ration ofc you cant se 2160 pixels if your phone can only show them 1080 but when you zoom, lets say 4x zoom you only see 1/4 of the picture meaning it should be perfect, pixel per pixel, you get 1080p from 4x zoom of a 4K picture.. 4K is exactly 4 times larger...
As seen here 1080p is 1/4 of 4k.. so whem 4x zoom you should get one quarter of 4k picture which makes it 1080p...
Am i doing it right?
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Use MX Player & report.

still no difference..
maybe the phone plays the 4k video at 1080p?

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TheNewLegend said:
still no difference..
maybe the phone plays the 4k video at 1080p?
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As stated here: http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review-01299556/
Too bad, i thought we are able to watch 4K... looks like videos are only going to sit there and wait to be played on 4K TV... :/

ryanrazer said:
As stated here: http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-review-01299556/
Too bad, i thought we are able to watch 4K... looks like videos are only going to sit there and wait to be played on 4K TV... :/
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Ah thats sad ><
I thought about it more and i still think theres should be a difference in the quality, thats because i zoom in while recording the video (and not in the playback) so it should play the zoomed video at 1080p

TheNewLegend said:
Ah thats sad ><
I thought about it more and i still think theres should be a difference in the quality, thats because i zoom in while recording the video (and not in the playback) so it should play the zoomed video at 1080p
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I agree with you. in theory (on paper) 4X zoom should be as good as 1080p video, as sharp... but i guess paper lies...

Almost 3 months ago when I heard the N3 could record at 4k, I wondered what we would watch the videos on.
(you guys are not too far behind) - lol

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Blu Ray on HD2 [PICS INSIDE]

So, I have finally managed to rip one of my BD movies to my computer, and then converted it to .mp4 with Mp4ForHD.
The quality is extremely good, and 90% of the time, the picture is crystal clear, however i think that the HD2 is capable of playing movies with even higher bitrate than what Mp4ForHD can create. I don't know how to fix this myself, but untill someone does, we can only imagine how good the picture quality could be.
But I've captured some pics, for you to see, tell me what you think. Its from the movie Inglorious Bastards.
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If you want a feeling of the video quality on your own device, download the pictures (Right click; Save As) and then copy them to your HD2. Then watch the images in the gallery, and see for yourself.
can you share your settings ?
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can you share your settings ?
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for me too, please?...
Me too
Good job
Share what settings? For the BD rip? For Mp4ForHD converter? Or for HD2 itself?
Stoferr said:
Share what settings? For the BD rip? For Mp4ForHD converter? Or for HD2 itself?
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Easy reply, All of the above.
My contribution, look at the middle it' really impressive :
http://rapidshare.com/files/3269272...lina_1080p_IMPRESIONANTE_._bY_AkerrA.mp4.html
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dorigny said:
My contribution, look at the middle it' really impressive :
http://rapidshare.com/files/3269272...lina_1080p_IMPRESIONANTE_._bY_AkerrA.mp4.html
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This file is neither allocated to a Premium Account, or a Collector's Account, and can therefore only be downloaded 10 times.
This limit is reached.
Please repost.
Not to take anything away from the OP but this isn't Blu-Ray on an HD2. It's transcoded video.
It's not different to ripping a DVD to DivX or something and playing it surely?
how big was the file before and after it was converted?
It's "blue ray" as a normal dvd doesn't have a resolution like this. A normal dvd has a resolution below this, therefore there is a difference whether you convert a "blue ray" or a dvd to 800x480. Did you get it?
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which program was used for conversion?
Mp4forHD now has a higher allowed bitrate of 1600 kbps...this should allow for better quality video. However, imho, 1800-2000kbps is the sweet spot for HD converts...I do that for all my HD converts for HD2 and they play fine....only concern is not to hit more than 2gb per file.
Not sure if TS is converting videos to fit 800x480? I would advise to convert videos retaining aspect ratio, and if there is a need to view videos without the black bars, just press the fit to screen button.
Keeping with the theme, here's 2 shots I encoded of the IB HD sample. 16mb for 1min of video....that should be around 2hrs of video to stay within the 2gb limit.
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It's "blue ray" as a normal dvd doesn't have a resolution like this. A normal dvd has a resolution below this, therefore there is a difference whether you convert a "blue ray" or a dvd to 800x480. Did you get it?
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which program was used for conversion?
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Blue ray is 1080p , 720P is sufficient, BUt I get your point
I'm waiting for a 16gb microsd. In the meanwhile I'm encoding some of my 720p hdrip from mkv format to mp4 at the leo resolution (800 x 4xx). Whit the program I'm using I can select bitrate and size. So what is the maximum bitrate I can select? And what is the maximum file size the htc player can support?
Thank you.
giamic said:
I'm waiting for a 16gb microsd. In the meanwhile I'm encoding some of my 720p hdrip from mkv format to mp4 at the leo resolution (800 x 4xx). Whit the program I'm using I can select bitrate and size. So what is the maximum bitrate I can select? And what is the maximum file size the htc player can support?
Thank you.
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I would recommend nothing more than 2000kbps for video. Max file size for video is 2gb.
Thank you for your answer!!

[Q] High Res Panoramic shots

Is it possible to hack the resolution restriction on panoramic shots? Right now as is, the only allowed resolution is 640 x 480. I understand it would take a long time to process the shots if shooting at a higher resolution, but the low resolution is pretty much worthless.
Anyways, a higher resolution would be nice. Not necessarily the highest possible, but at least maybe the 2048 x 1536
I get instant panoramic photos at 2048x544 myself (sample attached). That's stitching shots taken while holding the phone in portrait orientation which is slightly better than holding it in landscape. Still, I would agree that software should be capable of stitching together the camera's higher-res source photos. It may take longer to process the additional detail but I could wait a minute or two for the occasional shot.
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Well l meant that was the max resolution I could choose from, but when I take the shots I get a resolution of 2704 x 400 when taken in landscape and a resolution of 544 x 1888.
I'm hoping it is possible to select a higher initial resolution which then turns out to be a really big picture after the panoramic shot. No idea what resolution it would end up with, but maybe in the ballpark of 2048 x 6000 or similar
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I really don't think they are always exact on this as I just tested out a pano shot and it came out at 2816x400.
It probably all depends on how you end up framing it, and how tightly it gets stitched.
I see what you mean with not being able to change the resolution. That would be nice.
I'm stuck at 0.3m which is 640x480 and pretty low resolution
A hack or something that could change it would be great because even though the pics turn out nice, its not as nice as it could be i don't think
I wouldn't mind a longer wait time for the stitch processing if it comes down to that
Doubt even the Vibrant would have the processing power to capture much higher res. That said, even at the low res, it's a pretty neat effect if done properly.
Texag2010 said:
Is it possible to hack the resolution restriction on panoramic shots? Right now as is, the only allowed resolution is 640 x 480. I understand it would take a long time to process the shots if shooting at a higher resolution, but the low resolution is pretty much worthless.
Anyways, a higher resolution would be nice. Not necessarily the highest possible, but at least maybe the 2048 x 1536
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I totally agree...the 640x480 is worthless...I feel like I'm taking photos with my 10 year old Nokia....
I hope someone figures something out...I doubt there would be any processing power issues...
Has anyone tried seriously hacking/modifying any of the various Samsung camera apps to see if this could be changed?
Yeah, this bothered me too. My only work around was manually take the shots as best I could. Then use Canon sticher pro on my PC to attach them to one file.... Should have just brought my lunky DSLR.
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If you don't need it on your phone (which means hi res matters), you can take a bunch of shots, and splice them together using Microsoft ICE. It works great.
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Nexus S can have 720p recording

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In this version ( Vodafone AUS ) we can see it have S-LCD screen , and i think the new OTA FW have 720p update ( i hope so )
Man I hope so!!!
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I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?
willentrekin said:
I'm confused. What does the screen have to do with the camera mechanism?
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Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.
thommcg said:
Nothing. But the specs clearly say 720P recording.
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Assuming that ad copy is accurate.
And also assuming that this Euro version is the same hardware as the US version (which it clearly isn't since it's SLCD and not SAMOLED - who knows what other internal changes it might have).
We've been led to believe in the past that the lack of 720p video recording was a hardware bandwidth limitation...no software will change that if it's true. We could do 720p if/when some gets around to hacking in a method, but it will be at reduced framerates. I suspect a lower resolution at higher framerates will usually be a more pleasant viewing experience.
The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.
That would be the most bull**** thing Samsung haf done yet.
terra_droid said:
The i9023 (as opposed to the US i9020) has a Super LCD screen instead of a SuperAMOLED one but I suppose as part of the screen swap, it can capture true 720p video.
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Is it possible to upscale to 720i instead? Similar to tv's?
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Before everyone jumps to conclusions, keep in mind that the original launch page for the Nexus S (http://www.google.com/nexus) said it would be able to take "HD videos" on the Features page while stating only 720x480 on the Specs page. As we all know, 720x480 is "Enhanced Definition" at best, not HD.
So this could be a similar situation. Or, it might have a different camera module that has the on-board video processing chip.
Personally, I think the 720x480 video the original NS takes are actually pretty decent, and I'd much prefer the battery life improvements of an AMOLED screen over SuperLCD.
I also think the video is quite good already, but higher res wouldn't hurt. But the still camera needs some work, my NS is not nearly as good a my old vibrant.
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this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
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demo23019 said:
this has been discussed before...720x480 is not HD
Not to mention NS is missing the hardware
You can thank the IMO useless NFC chip/card that took up the space were the sim card and micro SD were and also took up the space were that HD decoder chip went that were on the galaxy S
NS camera
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11013723&postcount=158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11046683&postcount=168
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051605&postcount=170
When does the SLCD version hit shelves? If its a codec issue, why doesn't Google come out and say that
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11013723&postcount=158
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11046683&postcount=168
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11051605&postcount=170
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these make sense, i never thought of it that way, i always knew that the GS phones had more codecs than the NS because of touchwiz and such but i never related those codecs and HD recording :O
The problem is, if its a codec issue then how do you get it onto the sns if its a matter of Google not paying for it? I don't see how anyone can fix that. How do you even get codecs on this phone? Sounds like there's no legal way to do it right?
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miss read ..removed
Are you still convinced that it's an hardware problem?
http://developer.android.com/guide/appendix/media-formats.html
Read under encoding, and you realize by yourselves that H.264 encoding it's not supported on android 2.3.3 and before. First version of android with H.264 encoding is Honeycomb (3.0).
So it's definitely a codec thing.
Considering one of the lead Android devs said on his twitter that 720p recording is not available on the Nexus S due to hardware bandwidth limitation, I tend to believe him. I am not sure why we have ANOTHER 720p thread either. There is already a longggg one open that talks about all of this. The ad is incorrect. The SLCD version is the SAME as the AMOLED version, minus the screen.
I think it takes great pics and decent video but you kind of expect HD coming from a phone like this... NFC could have waited for the next google phone IMO.
Doesn't 2.3.3 support WebM, which is a hidef codec?

This is what your phone looks like after 36gb of 4K DCI recording

I recorded a whole bunch of 4K at a concert last night. The phone got hot and my battery drained at over 60% an hour!
I'll post some of the video after it finishes uploading.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nanbrfg6nbun9xx/2014-10-02 16.15.04.png
Thought I'd share. I didn't feel that this fit into either the battery thread or the camera thread, respectively, which is why I made a separate topic. My apologies if this assumption was incorrect.
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Apparently I'm having trouble uploading atm, I will try later
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Dude re upload I wanna see
Weird.. Still not working for me. Here is a Dropbox link https://www.dropbox.com/s/nanbrfg6nbun9xx/2014-10-02 16.15.04.png?dl=0
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Probably just record 1080p lol an hour of recording is a long time for a phone. Especially considering the processor, battery, and screen will be producing heat the whole time.
Thanks @bfranklin1986, I could've tried harder I suppose lol.
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furrycurry said:
Probably just record 1080p lol an hour of recording is a long time for a phone. Especially considering the processor, battery, and screen will be producing heat the whole time.
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Oh but I loved it! It's so crisp and clear! You lose the ability to take pictures during recording, but who needs to when your essentially taking 30 8mp pictures a second??
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I cannot wait
Mine is in the mail now I cannot wait to try out the 4k recording feature.
I was kind of hoping for at least a clip of the footage.
dralways said:
I was kind of hoping for at least a clip of the footage.
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I'm sorry, I have poor Internet and am still trying to upload my favorite clip.
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TiggaPwease said:
Mine is in the mail now I cannot wait to try out the 4k recording feature.
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It's great! But even more fun to play with is the slow motion recording
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The temperatures really don't seem too be too bad considering how long you recorded 4k
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It's normal to see this draining by a 4k record and encoding. BTW, why you recorded in 4k? Do you have any 4k TV in house?
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The temperatures really don't seem too be too bad considering how long you recorded 4k
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Well it FELT really hot lol. The only other time it's got that hot was when I accidentally put my pillow over it whilst charging, or when it's in direct sunlight.
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Elvecio said:
It's normal to see this draining by a 4k record and encoding. BTW, why you recorded in 4k? Do you have any 4k TV in house?
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I don't know, 4K seems like it takes a lot of horsepower to record, so the drain seems about right, to me anyway.
Although the new go pro records 4K but keeps the same battery life as the old models without it, but then again that is specialized hardware.
I do not have a 4K TV sadly, but I figured I could pull 8mp stills from the video
Here is one of the clips with the best audio, because the bass there completely overwhelmed the microphone on most the others lol.
https://www.dropbox.com/sc/6few8kvil56fqy9/AACc5bu63Ras_WMvXQ4gGYT1a
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So, Youtube just enabled HDR for the S8(+)

Just noticed this on my S8+, suddenly have the option to enable HDR and the effect is dramatic. Only works when viewing in full screen. Also noticed that the cropping to enable the video to fill the entire screen doesnt work when HDR is on.
Tried it on my Tab S3 (which also is HDR Capable) and it isn't working...yet.
So if Netflix wont support HDR on the S8, Youtube just did.
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They took away the fit to screen button though. I no longer see the floating icon
Still nothing on Netflix's side sadly
That's weird, nothing show up for me on Youtube...
I'm on CarHD Rom, but not sure if its connected or not...
EDIT : Youtube app wasn't updated yet. It's working now
I just have to enable through Xposed module the 4K video format on Youtube as it's not available natively and everything will be great !
Can confirm this on my S8+. It's not working on every single HDR video yet though.
someone experiencing lag with videoplayback?
me also have lag with hdr video on youtube
KennethHau said:
someone experiencing lag with videoplayback?
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Yes i have noticed that it's lagging specially when you watch it in 1440p 60fps HDR slows down the device also try to rotate the video. The same feeling when you try to watch a 4k video on 720p tv. Hope future updates solves the problem.
I have noticed also the video crop right corner not enabled by default but only enabled for some videos
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Amar.B said:
Yes i have noticed that it's lagging specially when you watch it in 1440p 60fps HDR slows down the device also try to rotate the video. The same feeling when you try to watch a 4k video on 720p tv. Hope future updates solves the problem.
I have noticed also the video crop right corner not enabled by default but only enabled for some videos
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Same for me :/ I hope it will be updated soon..
Looks nice, thanks. I like HDR but I have to admit it makes colors seem oversaturated and brighter than real-life. It's like everyone and their brother posts oversaturated/color enhanced photos on social media, etc., right? Yeah, easy to do in photo-edit programs. But, it looks like HDR does it by default, which makes it pretty but also pretty darn unrealistic. I mean, seriously, just look out your window during the day and the colors aren't oversaturated like HDR! Oh well, still pretty.
Lol I used the hidden settings menu to turn on 2160p
I get like 3fps of 2160p hdr
Laggy
So not just I'm the one who experiences lags during 1080p 60fps hdr video playback on Galaxy s8?
Yeah YouTube hdr is buggy at best. Video stutters on 1080p 60 fps
wildermjs8 said:
Lol I used the hidden settings menu to turn on 2160p
I get like 3fps of 2160p hdr
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How do you do it?
anewday said:
How do you do it?
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If you are rooted lapsed will let you enable 4k yt.
I thought I remembered seeing it using the hidden menu app but I don't see it now
wildermjs8 said:
if you are rooted lapsed will let you enable 4k yt.
I thought i remembered seeing it using the hidden menu app but i don't see it now
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how do u enable 4k youtube on s8 plus
Kevin711497 said:
how do u enable 4k youtube on s8 plus
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Ugh stupid autocorrect.
If you are rooted the app Lspeed will enable it for you
Is it worth it for 4k youtube on s8 plus I'm really considering because I never use samsung pay

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