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This is the second transformer I have purchased, received directly from amazon not even a reseller... This one the box has nasty finger smudges all over it and looks as if the box had been opened... but
Anyways... The issue being with this one is that (4) of the backlights are visable at all screen brightnesses. I did not have this issue on the other one I had (screen was flickering like short in the unit somewhere, so decided to return and order new one seeing as it would be faster then RMA)
Not sure if this is normal or if this is another reason to return this device as it seems like quality control seems to be an issue with this product.
Just seems annoying that is what I focus on all the time and not sure if this is normal or if I got yet another defective unit...
Please let me know if yours looks like this otherwise I believe I am returning this one and ordering another. This is unacceptable to me.
I just recieved another transformer from amazon today too. I sent the other one back and purchased this one. Both of the transformers have the same light bleeding like what you have. The one i just recieved today has a lil more light bleeding than the one i sent back. I'm keeping this one. Not going to send it back anymore.
That looks pretty bad. I have some backlight bleeding, but I have to go out of my way to see it (max out the brightness in a dark room).
Here is a picture of mine. And this is basically the worst possible combinations of maximum brightness, completely dark room, and solid black wallpaper.
The light bleed is only a little noticeable on the lower left side and maybe a bit in the upper right. But what is annoying me is if you look closely there is a small light color blotch in the middle lower area of the screen. Argh!
This is the second Transformer I had and the second one with some really odd screen defect.
already requested to ship back to amazon... this sucks!!! but when trying to watch a movie the bleed is horrible.
I wish my original one from walmart didn't have a short in the screen (as you moved it the screen would turn on and off) because that one was otherwise perfect 100% no screen bleeding even on 100% brightness!
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Here is a picture of mine. And this is basically the worst possible combinations of maximum brightness, completely dark room, and solid black wallpaper.
The light bleed is only a little noticeable on the lower left side and maybe a bit in the upper right. But what is annoying me is if you look closely there is a small light color blotch in the middle lower area of the screen. Argh!
This is the second Transformer I had and the second one with some really odd screen defect.
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I'd return that. That looks horrid. You pay for something and expect to be flawless. Now I mean if this was on display and someone tried to sell you it, you wouldn't have bought it if it came with that flaw now would you.
Yeah, I'm going to return mine. I bought it from a local Fry's Electronics and I got about 10 more days left to do the return. And they don't have anything in stock to exchange with.
I'm still struggling with if I want to exchange or get a refund and buy something else instead. Need a few more days to think it over (and maybe a look at a few more Galaxy Tab 10.1 reviews).
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Yeah, I'm going to return mine. I bought it from a local Fry's Electronics and I got about 10 more days left to do the return. And they don't have anything in stock to exchange with.
I'm still struggling with if I want to exchange or get a refund and buy something else instead. Need a few more days to think it over (and maybe a look at a few more Galaxy Tab 10.1 reviews).
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Nothing will be 100% problem free... just look at the ipad 2 screen issues... the transformer and its dock are a 1, 2 punch... and they said for any future transformer line the keyboard dock will fit, thats a +
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Nothing will be 100% problem free... just look at the ipad 2 screen issues... the transformer and its dock are a 1, 2 punch... and they said for any future transformer line the keyboard dock will fit, thats a +
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I understand. But it seems like my odds of getting a defect free tablet may be higher with some manufactures than others.
My iPad was perfectly fine, first try. I've had two Xooms, both were perfect pieces of hardware (just too heavy and too expensive). My luck hasn't been as good with ASUS though.
Problem is both of the tablets I want seem to have manufacturing problems. I like the Galaxy Tab 10.1 too (though the lack of micro SD is why I bought the Transformer). But even Samsung seems to be having manufacturing problems with theirs too. Seems like far too many Google IO owners have their glass popping out of their bezel. Ugh. And it's looking like the production Wifi model has this issue too.
Well i deliberately wasnt lookig for issues and i can say the bleed is worse on the tf than my ipad 2. Also, of all sites, this forum craaaaaawls on it. Laggy as hell
XDA seems to really hate Android browsers. Haha. Opera Mini works MUCH better here though.
I thought I'd post a sample of the light bleed vs iPad 2. Both at 100% which frankly I'd never use this dark. However, the other shot is 50%.
I kept them small rather than two megs each. IMHO neither is acceptable at the price point. The tf changes with pressure the iPad 2 doesn't. The transformer is worse.
I have bad luck with screens. Also there are about ten stuck pixels seen on a black screen, I'm sure more if I run the color range.
Would you keep it? Don't think I will be. :/ and the iPad is getting exchanged.
O.K. mine issues:
Light bleeds on bottom right and right side of screen (on bottom left there is not such bleed as on picture this is kind of photo rendering issue)
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Two defective spots of pixels on dark screen only
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Zoomed defective pixels..
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But I notice this in only %1 in my daily use, because I am not using it in dark room on dark screen at full brightness
What bothers me more is speaker disbalance (right is normal left is only 30% as loud as right). But if I have to wait for RMA I won`t take it to RMA because I just love it too much and don`t want to wait for stupid RMA.. Maybe I will give it to RMA after 23 months (in Lithuania there is 2 Year warranty)
BTW I contacted seller and waiting for answer and if they will not exchange it i will live with these issues
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yah i noticed thatpressure on the back increasesthe bleeding but my photo was with no pressure. And dam this site lags on this transformer.
Still returning...sadly
just received my 3rd one in today. few dead pixels throughout the screen and then one big area that is washed out about the size of my thumb.
amazon refused to exchange this one and now says i have to go through asus. BULLSH**
i have to return mine due to the backlight as well, its got a bleed that seems like its getting worse every day.
also from amazon! i really dont want to send it back either
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Well i deliberately wasnt lookig for issues and i can say the bleed is worse on the tf than my ipad 2. Also, of all sites, this forum craaaaaawls on it. Laggy as hell
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If you go to the bottom of the page on this site there is a arrow down box that says XDA 2010, switch it to XDA Classic and the website runs really smooth then.
thanks!
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this is exactly how my current (3rd) is. the other two had bleed, but not as defined as this one's is. the others were more diffused.
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This is the second transformer I have purchased, received directly from amazon not even a reseller... This one the box has nasty finger smudges all over it and looks as if the box had been opened... but
Anyways... The issue being with this one is that (4) of the backlights are visable at all screen brightnesses. I did not have this issue on the other one I had (screen was flickering like short in the unit somewhere, so decided to return and order new one seeing as it would be faster then RMA)
Not sure if this is normal or if this is another reason to return this device as it seems like quality control seems to be an issue with this product.
Just seems annoying that is what I focus on all the time and not sure if this is normal or if I got yet another defective unit...
Please let me know if yours looks like this otherwise I believe I am returning this one and ordering another. This is unacceptable to me.
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yah returned the 3rd one. amazon refuses to send me another one. says its likely to be DOA based on my past experience... wtf...
So I know there have been tons of threads regarding light bleed in the Transformer but what I'm wondering is if the issue has gotten any better with the newer units. My 45 day return window at Best Buy is coming up and I'm trying to decide what to do. I have some light bleeding on the bottom right of my unit, but it only really bothers me in dark rooms. However since my wife tries not to use lights very much in our house, most rooms are dark. I haven't had any other issues, and I would only consider exchanging it if I knew that the newer ones have gotten better on this front. I got mine in mid May and I assume they've had numerous shipments since then. Have the new models gotten any better on the defect front?
I just bought one yesterday and I am taking it back today. Mine has some separation between the glass and bezel as if it were dropped in shipping or something. I also notice very minor light bleed only at the bottom about middle area so I would say that most likely this issue hasn't been resolved but I am afraid the new one I get tonight will be worse.
I will post up tonight when i get the new one and let you know if it has any bleed....most likely it will. Even the display models at 2 different Best Buys has it. I got mine from Office Depot so that is three different stores all with light bleed issues.
I got mine last month from Best Buy online and it's fine. No bleeding, no creaking, no problems of any kind (except the occasional PEBKAC issue )
I have no problems as ofyet
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So it's still a crap-shoot?
Just got mine from NewEgg for $389/fs. So far, no issues. It's a black-sealed, Serial# B60 model. I can't detect any light-bleed, no creaks/cracks. Only had it a few minutes, but all seems well. It was packaged very well from NE with peanuts in a large box. I can't detect issues with the speakers either.
It had Android 3.1 preinstalled.
Also, it has all my phone (EVO) apps installed within minutes ... not sure if that's new to Google or something, but never had that before. It did it automatically when I signed in to Google.
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I just bought one yesterday and I am taking it back today. Mine has some separation between the glass and bezel as if it were dropped in shipping or something. I also notice very minor light bleed only at the bottom about middle area so I would say that most likely this issue hasn't been resolved but I am afraid the new one I get tonight will be worse.
I will post up tonight when i get the new one and let you know if it has any bleed....most likely it will. Even the display models at 2 different Best Buys has it. I got mine from Office Depot so that is three different stores all with light bleed issues.
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what was the serial number of yours...b6?
Bought mine in Singapore last week, no problems whatsoever. Is from the recent manufactured batch, B60K serial, TW firmware. Love it, no regrets!
Bought mine Saturday at Compusa , went B&M in case I had to take it back. i have a slight amount of light bleed at the bottom middle right. Not sure if I'll take it back, it doesn't really bother me, but I did just pay for a new product so it should be perfect right?
I returned my first one due to a dead pixel and minor light bleed in the bottom middle of the screen. I just got my new one in yesterday and I can not find a single issue with it. Serial number b60.
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Bought mine in Singapore last week, no problems whatsoever. Is from the recent manufactured batch, B60K serial, TW firmware. Love it, no regrets!
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Mine was B60K as well. In case the letter after the number changes at all.
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what was the serial number of yours...b6?
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Yes the one I got yesterday was a serial b6. The one I got today is a b5.
They both have\had very slight light bleed (at the bottom) but I think I can deal with it.
This new b5 is a little worse than the b6 but almost not so much to really even bring it up, but I will. So I would say that it is a crap shoot which sucks. I turned it on at the store but it wasn't dark enough to see the problem. I have seen some that are very bad that I couldn't live with but both I have had I could/will live with; unless they get worse over time.
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Bought mine Saturday at Compusa , went B&M in case I had to take it back. i have a slight amount of light bleed at the bottom middle right. Not sure if I'll take it back, it doesn't really bother me, but I did just pay for a new product so it should be perfect right?
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I would normally agree with your logic about it being perfect, but with these IPS screens it's very hard to totally do away with the light bleed. Even the iPad2, as much as Apple praises their build quality, has light bleed. Mine did and so did my wife's.
Hell, my 46" Samsung LCD has some light bleed in the corners (we refer to them as "flashights").
I think if you get a TF with minimal light bleed, mine is very small at the bottom, you are doing well.
So mine is a B40K series. It sounds like if I can find a B60K series it might be worth it to exchange?
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I am going to take my in for a replacement @ Fry's tomorrow as well! If I call ahead of time...will they tell me if they have a B60 in stock? =/ Seems like there are more success stories with the B60...I have light bleeding out all over the bottom...and on the left.
Some people doesn't seem to know what light bleeding is, so i will not believe anyone saying their TF is just perfect without seeing actual pictures of the screen, in max brightness and low light.
That happend on other forums a lot, and after explanations a lot of them admitted that they were wrong.
Same thing with unbalanced speakers, creaking, screen responsiveness etc.
Or... maybe not all of you there are as perfectionists as some of us are, and that's fine. But don't make us envy your perfect products.
Mine (B5) also has one light bleeding spot on the middle bottom (about an inch from the edge) and the screen responsiveness isn't as great s on SGS II or iPad2 (or maybe it's Honeycomb's fault), bothers me a little, but overall I am happy with my Transformer. It's making my life easier a lot on four aspects: saving my laptop (on which i spent a lot and doesn't deserve to be stressed sometimes all day long just for browsing; I am saving it for real work and there are days now when i don't use it at all; also, TF is way better than my wife's iPad 2 on this reason), my smartphone (who's battery now last for 2 full days because of transferring the light browsing, reading and media consuming in bed to the Transformer), my injured back (from using the laptop at desk all day) and my eyes (beacuse of the reason no. 2, with the smartphone replacement for some stuff).
LE: Conclusion: Stop complaining or bragging about it, and just make it worth it's money using it.
Has anyone yet commented the speaker balance in the B60K batch? More experience sharing on the light bleeding wll be appreciated too.
My B50K has passed its refund windows, but I could sell and buy a new B60K, and lose about $100. I need more info to decide...
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Has anyone yet commented the speaker balance in the B60K batch? More experience sharing on the light bleeding wll be appreciated too.
My B50K has passed its refund windows, but I could sell and buy a new B60K, and lose about $100. I need more info to decide...
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I havew a B50K and it's perfect. Thinking you will be getting $100 worth of something additional with a B60K is just insane.
i'm hoping they've worked out the creakiness in B60...my B40 was really bad.
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I would normally agree with your logic about it being perfect, but with these IPS screens it's very hard to totally do away with the light bleed. Even the iPad2, as much as Apple praises their build quality, has light bleed. Mine did and so did my wife's.
Hell, my 46" Samsung LCD has some light bleed in the corners (we refer to them as "flashights").
I think if you get a TF with minimal light bleed, mine is very small at the bottom, you are doing well.
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Said perfectly. I've had a B40, a B50, and 2 B60s. ALL had light bleed to various degrees.
The B60s seem a lot better but they still have light bleed. While I don't doubt there may be a few transformers out there with no light bleed, I'm definitely skeptical of the claim that someone has a transformer with no light bleed whatsoever.
I do a lot of reading on my device and I like to read with white text on a black background so light bleed shows up immediately. The light bleed on the B60 I am keeping is minimal enough that it doesn't bother me even in this condition.
quick story:
I bought the black nexus 9 16GB on release date at best buy. upon unboxing it, i was a bit disappointed. the build quality was pretty weak. right away i noticed that there was a click on the back, right above the HTC logo. you can press upon it, it felt a bit hollow. anyhow i tried to look pass it because I'm a really big nexus fan. next i noticed the weak volume and power buttons. there were very flush and very hard to find and press. most of the time i would accidentally power off the display trying to raise the volume. i again tried to look pass it, and actually used it for a full week. the final stray came when, after a week's use and after downloading all my apps I looked at the available storage and there were only 3gb left. No way, i just couldn't do it. with no expandable storage this was just a deal breaker. i immediately returned it to best buy. I wanted to give it another shot because i really enjoyed the screen size and front facing speakers of the nexus 9. So I bought the white nexus 9 32GB off of amazon with next day delivery.
the White nexus 9 was way better. And I mean WAYYYYY better. the volume and power button stick out more, more tactile, and have an audible click. the back feels much more solid and there is no click or give anywhere on the back. the Metal band that goes around the nexus actually looks and feels metal, something that i totally forgot and looked passed on the black version.
Conclusion: if you are going to get a nexus 9 get the WHITE 32GB version. i consider myself a minimalist but the black version just looks too bland. Ive seen the BUTTON ISSUE on the black display model at best buy. maybe the change in materials is actually causing some issues.
hope this helps anyone looking for a nexus 9. I also want to know if anyone is experiencing some issues with the white model
I too have the 32GB White Nexus 9 and it's a rock solid piece of equipment. The build quality is excellent including screen, white case back, and buttons. The white case makes the whole thing look sexy.
Merrell
Ditto for me. But just learned no mircast, hugh bummer for work
I just bought a white one, thanks for your post.
I have the black 32gb version and I don't have any of those issues. Maybe I got lucky that mine was on back order. Must have gotten one from a newer/improved batch?
Thanks for this post Rafaeli11. I ordered the white Nexus 9 on Friday and it's being delivered tomorrow. Since ordering it I've read so many negative comments that's I've almost canceled my order and just got an iPad instead. I have noticed, however that the people having problems all seem to be using the black version. After reading your post I'm a little less anxious about the build quality my Nexus 9 may have. I've read on a few different sites now that the back of the white version is more solid.
Thanks again.
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Thanks for this post Rafaeli11. I ordered the white Nexus 9 on Friday and it's being delivered tomorrow. Since ordering it I've read so many negative comments that's I've almost canceled my order and just got an iPad instead. I have noticed, however that the people having problems all seem to be using the black version. After reading your post I'm a little less anxious about the build quality my Nexus 9 may have. I've read on a few different sites now that the back of the white version is more solid.
Thanks again.
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Unfortunately that's what I did. After reading all the negative reviews on here I went and spent the money I had saved for the nexus 9 on an iPad Air 2. It was not all that!! The sound distorts and vibrates and on a certain area of the screen just a normal light touch caused a wavy effect (just like if you press really hard on a LCD screen). This also happened when you hold the tablet in a certain way. Luckily I managed to get a full refund and will now get the Nexus 9. We all learn from our mistakes!!!!
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Unfortunately that's what I did. After reading all the negative reviews on here I went and spent the money I had saved for the nexus 9 on an iPad Air 2. It was not all that!! The sound distorts and vibrates and on a certain area of the screen just a normal light touch caused a wavy effect (just like if you press really hard on a LCD screen). This also happened when you hold the tablet in a certain way. Luckily I managed to get a full refund and will now get the Nexus 9. We all learn from our mistakes!!!!
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I owned an iPad Air last year and whilst it was great in build quality and had great battery life, it bored the life out of me. I ended up dropping it anyway. I then purchased a Nexus 7 2013 just to tide me over until the Nexus 9 came out. I just hope there's nothing wrong with mine when it arrives tomorrow, I'll be really disappointed if it's got the issues some people are suffering. I had a bad experience with my Nexus 5, I had to RMA it 3 times. If my Nexus 9 is all good tomorrow I'll be over the moon.
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Unfortunately that's what I did. After reading all the negative reviews on here I went and spent the money I had saved for the nexus 9 on an iPad Air 2. It was not all that!! The sound distorts and vibrates and on a certain area of the screen just a normal light touch caused a wavy effect (just like if you press really hard on a LCD screen). This also happened when you hold the tablet in a certain way. Luckily I managed to get a full refund and will now get the Nexus 9. We all learn from our mistakes!!!!
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so in the end you are getting the N9. It was not clear
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so in the end you are getting the N9. It was not clear
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I purchased the Black version on release day and was incredibly shocked at how bad the build was. The back popped and I also had major light bleed. So I returned it and ordered a white one to see if it by chance could be any better. I can say that the white version seems better all the way around. No popping on the back and minimal light bleed. I can say I'm very happy and would say this tops all android tablets out there and I have owned at least 10 to 15 of them.
Can anyone confirm if this popping back issue has been fixed in new batch or is it still there in black version? I guess I will get mine replaced if it is. I guess choosing white version would be easy fix but it is not available in Finland Play store.
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Sorry I was confused by the wording. It was not clear that you meant the N9 in the end and meant to type ipad. I guess it reads that you returned the N9 for the ipad and returned the ipad for the N9. So cool
I have the white 16 GB version and can't see any defects on it the build quality is like my wife's ipad air it feels solid and battery life is amazing almost 4 days Jo charge on par with ipad battery life os maybe the black one does have bit different materials??
I too bought the white mainly for one reason - fingerprints. I already have experience with the N5 and N7 which I ended up getting skins for. with the white it shows up much less.
Got the bonus of it having great build quality. very happy with my decision.
And my wallet and I are back on speaking terms!
Also bought the White (32GB) and have no issues with the back popping. It feels solid.
Light bleed exist but is very minimal in a couple of corners. When watching letter-boxed videos, I don't even notice.
Add another one here.
I bought the black one the first day it came out. NFC didnt work, the back cover clicks, the tablet was laggy (older firmware). Returned it to Best Buy and got the white version. Wow, what a difference. I have none of the problems above.
I believe these are all in people's luck.
My black version is solid, with really really "good" (comparatively), lightbleed. No flexing and no back cover clicking, plus no #gapgate.
I don't think the white is constructed with better QC than its black brothers.
Assuming all units are the same, and each has a 50% chance of a bad turnout.
Your next N9 could simply have struck luck and got a good unit, regardless of black or white.
Show the black one some looooooove! It's feeling left out!
I bought my N9 32gb black the day after release. It's pretty solid in build quality with no clicking and minimal light bleed (a lot less than other devices I have). Everything appears to work. I'm very happy with it.
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I bought my N9 32gb black the day after release. It's pretty solid in build quality with no clicking and minimal light bleed (a lot less than other devices I have). Everything appears to work. I'm very happy with it.
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Same here. I love it.
Check out MKBHD's new review of the Pixel 2 / XL. Thoughts?
Halt shipping and conduct a QC investigation...
Watched this video this morning! Can't wait for my P2XL to arrive tomorrow!
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As always, an honest review.
Makes me more excited for my delivery, although it is one day past my ship date and I have no confirmation.
Blue hue, won't bother me at all.
Muted colors. I believe google will provide some options with a software update at some point, but I've already seen the phone at Verizon and the colors didn't bother me at all.
Otherwise, the phone will definitely be the best I've ever had.
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As always, an honest review.
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I worry sometimes that MKBHD is too much of an android fanboy & then a review comes out like this & I don't care anymore. LOL!
Seriously, I've watched him since he was a teenager & I believe what he says.
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
I'm going to honestly say that all this news on the Pixel 2XL feels like a smear campaign or something. I swear, I wasn't seeing as many news stories as when Samsung had phones exploding and they were refusing to let them on planes. Why is something that is largely subjective as screen preference, dotted with a few actual hardware defects being plastered everywhere on the internet. I seriously can't scroll one or two screens, in Google, Newstand, Google+, Facebook, etc without seeing something about the damn screen.
b ..bb.bbbut the screen looks funny when i try to watch a YouTube video at the lowest light setting with 1 eye holding it sideways with a strobe light going off in the background
seriously though i don't know. Google F'ed my shipping up and i went from having it yesterday to having it Thursday so id love to put this thing to the test myself but the wait continues.
Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
love how he explained the color issue.
He made a great review! I don't know why everyone is crying so much. This phone is amazing. I've had it for three days now and I might be lucky but I have 0 issues. The colors for me are fine and it's really smooth. I'm extremely happy with my purchase and can't wait for further development for this phone.
I like his reviews as he is seeing the device for what it is and compares it to how he uses it.. Yes his use might be different than ours but at least he is reviewing in the sense of a normal user (or at least for me he does). The whole display thing i feel is being blown way out of proportion. Its like if no one ever mentioned it would you have really noticed it? or would you have gone about your day like it never existed. For cases where it is faulty that is where warranty comes in play. so i'll be getting my phone and going through my works but most likely i will be keeping mine
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Its like if no one ever mentioned it would you have really noticed it?
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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
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Both my wife and several coworkers pointed out the tint immediately, "why is it so blue" without any understanding of the controversy around it. I thought i had a particularly bad one, as the blue tint happens at around a 10% angle, but two other coworkers have gotten theirs and they're identical. I thought i could deal with it, but in normal use i dont look at my phone straight on its almost always at a slight angle, so the top of the phone would be blue tinted and the bottom would look fine, and scrolling with two different color temps is a weird thing, particularly peoples faces.
To be clear, all phones shift a little, my nexus 6p has a slight blue shift then rainbow at nearly flat, and my wifes S8 has a slight red shift then rainbows, but the P2XL shift is in another world, its so extreme and so fast, and actually gets better looking at extreme angles than at slight ones.
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Thanks for the information. i do believe you on the blue tint being probably that bad. me personally i would have to use it for a week before i can decide if that will really bother me. if other see it i'm eh about it cause it's not their phone. but glad to know you noticed other people have noticed on your phone.
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Its objectively a bad screen, thats why. Honestly i don't get why people are defending the screen. Its one thing to say you acknowledge the problem but are ok with it, but to pretend this isn't an issue is crazy and if you're ok with a $850+ phone with a bad display, then thats cool, enjoy it. I've seen three pixel 2xl's in real life (the one i bought and two others coworkers bought) and the extreme blue shift is identical on all of them, this is just how the screen is. Its worse than my 2 year old 6p screen. Do i love everything else about the phone, yes, is the display a dealer breaker for me, yes, is it for everyone, no; but again that doesnt make the screen ok on a flagship top of the price range phone. I think its embarrassing to the reviewers who were ok with it, they should be universally trashing this display, cause its the worse ive ever seen on a flagship phone.
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Totally agreed with you on this. for such a high price flagship, we shouldn't be able to oversee issues like this. That's the reason I cancelled it. I'll wait a few more weeks or months if things gets better and re-order. For now, I wouldn't lie to my self and say I can live with this.
His comments on the display were interesting and it is odd that the display supports a wider color gamut but isn't using it (as evidenced by Firefox). That said, the images people typically use to compare the display are grossly oversaturated even if they are using a wider gamut. The first comparison picture he uses with the S8 has much more detail in the Pixel version because the S8 is blowing out the colors so much to produce those saturated neon greens. I'd be interested to actually see the Pixel up against another display that is using proper color saturation with a wider gamut.
Rodeojones said:
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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I feel like I can live with the screen washout and blue tint at the angle. I'm a little worried about the screen burn in and clucky noises that people are reporting hopefully those are just defects from a really bad batch. I get mine tomorrow so I will definitely be keeping an eye on it. If anything is bad I return it and just get the Pixel XL.
Notable XDA Dev supercurio sheds some light on some of the claims made in Marques' review.
Keep in mind this guy made the software that Erica Griffin used to measure the display. He knows what he's talking about, more than most.
https://plus.google.com/+supercurioFrancoisSimond/posts/8feW5GMgGgt
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Rodeojones said:
I don't know what to think anymore. Some say this phone is a turd. Others, like MKBHD, praise it. Guess I'm glad I didn't cancel my order and I can find out for myself. Mine is on a truck for delivery - three full days ahead of schedule. So that's good. Although I'm not sure why I'm getting my 128gb black version ahead of people who ordered a full day before me, but that's Google's terrible shipping for you.
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Go with your own review, who knows what some reviewers motives are. Hell id praise a phone if it meant they kept sending me free stuff and devices! MKBHD is honest I believe though
The blue tint is when it's at a certain angle. Now that angle may be less than most phones, but I don't know of anyone who reads their phone at an angle. He explains that in the video as well. Like he said if your "that guy/gal' then this phone isn't for you. I think when people bring stuff up that bothers them & make a big deal about it everyone is looking for it. If other reviewers had never said anything this wouldn't be as big of an issue. Just nitpicking now.
The has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
First impressions of my 4 XL is the screen is yellow and warm face on, cloudy white, not impressed with the screen so I'm contacting Google today, the text on my 2 XL is clearer, the last thing I expected with the 4s was dodgy screens.
The color on mine was fine. I wonder if there are manufacturing defects with the 4XL that were present when the 2XL came out.
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The color on mine was fine. I wonder if there are manufacturing defects with the 4XL that were present when the 2XL came out.
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It's looking like that, mines warm, I prefer the cool look and seeing as Google doesn't put anything in their software to adjust coolness or warmness I'm not liking it, is yours pure white face on? Does it go any whiter when tilted backwards about 30 degrees?
Got a replacement coming 25-28th now, I'll see how that is.
Mine is very nice, it's crisp and vibrant. Surprisingly it looks better than my Note 10 plus.
knife2240 said:
Mine is very nice, it's crisp and vibrant. Surprisingly it looks better than my Note 10 plus.
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You got a good one then nice, i had this problem with the 2 xl and almost gave up until i received this one i have in my hand, hard to compare with photos online because cameras are poor at white balance anyway when taking shots of other phones but in hand it's worse than my 2 xl which is surprising, my guess is Samsung is cherry picking displays for themselves first,
Just curious, but what color did y'all that are having problems, receive? Shouldn't make a difference,but that's the only reason I could see reviewers not mentioning it, as most of them got the orange one. Maybe it's coincidence, maybe not. But I thought I would out that out there
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You got a good one then nice, i had this problem with the 2 xl and almost gave up until i received this one i have in my hand, hard to compare with photos online because cameras are poor at white balance anyway when taking shots of other phones but in hand it's worse than my 2 xl which is surprising, my guess is Samsung is cherry picking displays for themselves first,
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I really hope you get a better replacement because I'm real happy with mine. I was finally able to test it in direct bright sunlight and it was fine there too. Yes Samsung is brighter but I didn't have a problem reading the screen like the 2XL's and 3xl's I had. The 2xl was the worst out of the two but the 3xl was worse in direct sunlight for me. I wish you the best on your replacement and it sucks you have to go through that.
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I really hope you get a better replacement because I'm real happy with mine. I was finally able to test it in direct bright sunlight and it was fine there too. Yes Samsung is brighter but I didn't have a problem reading the screen like the 2XL's and 3xl's I had. The 2xl was the worst out of the two but the 3xl was worse in direct sunlight for me. I wish you the best on your replacement and it sucks you have to go through that.
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Glad your happy with it, this yellow is not something i can live with unless the manufacturer puts in settings and configuration to suit everyone, when i look at my tv then look at the phone I'm about to ship back I'm disappointed, I've noticed this white looks slightly better in bright light but in a duller environment the yellow shows it's rear ugly head, will see what happens in a few days when i get the replacement if that's the same must be how they've calibrated the screen this time, enjoy yours ?
Any oled can be varying temp etc
I just want to be rid of the black smearing in low brightness on my Pixel 2 XL. Should be arriving tomorrow!
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Just curious, but what color did y'all that are having problems, receive? Shouldn't make a difference,but that's the only reason I could see reviewers not mentioning it, as most of them got the orange one. Maybe it's coincidence, maybe not. But I thought I would out that out there
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Yeah mine is black which is warm, a replacement has been sent out for tomorrow so I'll see what that's like if that's the same or worse I may change colour just to see.
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Reuben_skelz92 said:
Any oled can be varying temp etc
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This is what I've been reading about oled the last few days, there's just no consistency, considering how long oled has been out now it's shocking to be honest, if I bought a red ferrari and it was delivered light red I'd be pissed, should not be happening in this day an age, to be honest I'm beginning to think QC is just not there with Google, I've had Google phones since the Nexus 5 and never had issues with screens until the pixel 2 XL, no surprise since everything changed to oled, apparently it's a big issue with oled TVs too, read some bits some people have to watch their TV at a 70 degree angle to get pure white, it's just shocking.
Brightness sucks
If i return this phone (Pixel 4 XL) it will be because of the extremely poor brightness on this screen (i probably will return). The Oneplus 7t is better than this phones screen and cost $400 less. That's just pitiful.
keith777 said:
If i return this phone (Pixel 4 XL) it will be because of the extremely poor brightness on this screen (i probably will return). The Oneplus 7t is better than this phones screen and cost $400 less. That's just pitiful.
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What's wrong with the brightness? Washed out when it's too high?
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What's wrong with the brightness? Washed out when it's too high?
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I'd have to keep it on 100% brightness a lot of the time to get it where i want, with the Oneplus 7t and iphones, samsung galaxy - don't have to do that. Its just really low, and I think it's something with the way Google set it up that they could fix with software, but probably won't. Either way not paying $1000 dollars for this.
Absolutely no issues with the display. Will be testing it more extensively outside in the bright Sun.
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Absolutely no issues with the display. Will be testing it more extensively outside in the bright Sun.
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No problems in the bright sun for me either. I tested mine on my morning walk and throughout the day with no issues reading the screen. This was a concern to me because the 3XL was terrible in the bright sun and I ended up returning it because of that. No, the 4XL isn't the brightest but it works fine. I've been testing it out along with a Note 10 + since yesterday and the Note is going back.
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I'd have to keep it on 100% brightness a lot of the time to get it where i want, with the Oneplus 7t and iphones, samsung galaxy - don't have to do that. Its just really low, and I think it's something with the way Google set it up that they could fix with software, but probably won't. Either way not paying $1000 dollars for this.
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Yeah google ****ed that up in a update to android a while ago, mines 95% used to be around 60 ish, why they ****ed about with that is anyones guess.
But yeah OLED screens are a lottery, you either get lucky or the fact is probably a lot are actually yellow but a lot op peoples brains can't register or see it and they think it is white and they have no issues, See here on this link, more people actually voted there is tint issues than not.
https://www.avforums.com/threads/oled-yellow-red-tint.2119862/
Also Google uses LG oled screens, they are notorious for tinting problems in their oled tv's too, Don't know what the screen is the 4 or 4 XL but mine is ****e, luckily a replacement will be here tomorrow and if there is a big difference it will just go to show how poor either oled screens are or googles quality control is non existent, i read somewhere on a review on the 4xl screens (can't remember where now) and he says every single pixel 4 screen is calibrated at a factory, for a start that's absolute bull****, even expensive tv's are not calibrated individually, it takes way too much time so the fact there is so much variance in oled tells you where the problem is.
Ady1976 said:
Yeah google ****ed that up in a update to android a while ago, mines 95% used to be around 60 ish, why they ****ed about with that is anyones guess.
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The slider adjustment was to make the increments more linear. Before, 50% on the slider was more than 50% of what a screen's brightness was actually capable off. So the difference between 0-50% was greater than 51-100%.
That being said, the dimmer than iPhone and Samsung's screens has nothing to do with it. The Pixel 4 is rated around 444 nits while iPhone's and Samsung's can hit 800 and 1000+ respectively.
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