Battery wire can effect charging. - Hardware Hacking General

So I have this really long thin wire I use to charge my phone sometimes (longer than I am tall, probably a good eight feet.) I plugged in a shorter, fatter cable and it is happily charging much better (the line went from a 45-50 degree angle with a bunch of wobbles to a perfectly straight 80 degree angle.
Now granted I keep the long one in my pocket and carry it with me because sometimes a long cable can come in handy, and it does work. However rolling it up has probably damaged it a bit and that part about the wobbly line probably isn't too good for the battery either so I'm probably going to stop using it and just toss it.
I only mention this because I think a lot of people when they complain about battery issues only think about the ROM/battery and don't take into consideration. Considering I just got the phone I'm using now recently you can imagine how disconcerning it is to see it not refueling properly.
Just something to keep in mind.

I was also aware of this as my old phone had the same issue.
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USB Wiggle

My Micro USB port seems to have a wiggle to it. I can't tell if it was like this when I first got the phone or if it's become worse overtime. Essentially when I plug in a Micro USB cable plugged into the port there seems to be excessive play from side-to-side. This excessive play doesn’t occur when pressure is applied up-and-down only when pressing from side-to-side. My Galaxy S2 does not have this wiggle and cables fit tightly. I'm concerned with long-term durability as I don’t want port to fail once I’m out of warranty. I feel silly calling Google and asking for a replacement if this is something that is normal. As I stated, the play seems excessive when compared to my Galaxy S2, but I have no other basis of comparison. My phone works brilliantly other than this very small issue. Does your micro USB port have some slack or is it tight?
Mine has some very minor movement, nothing that really concerns me much. If it really bothers you, I noticed that the official bumper case (when I had it) seemed to help stabilize things a little bit, so you could give that a try, though YMMV.
you could buy a wireless charging pad and make use of the Nexus 4's features. I too concern myself with long term plugging + unplugging will caus wobble side to side in the usb cable.
My GNexus had a slight wiggle, or formed one after 2 months usage.
I plan on buying a Qi wireless charging pad next week to not have this happen. Nexus 4 is my long term phone, a promise to myself lol.
Mine has a tiny bit of movement. But like the guy above me said, I plan on keeping this phone for quite some time so I got a wireless charging pad so I wouldn't put much stress on the port. Plus it's a really neat feature and everybody who sees it gets a kick out of it.
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broken port tab

so I broke the tab in the usb port in my nexus 4. I bought an induction charger but it doesn't seem to be charging the thing very well. It will sometimes turn on and I can see the battery is at 0% and it shuts down. do you think there is a chance there is a short in the port itself making it so that the battery drains itself? I left it charging overnight with no luck. What to do next? remove the port entirely while I wait for the new usb daughter board to come in the mail?
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so I broke the tab in the usb port in my nexus 4. I bought an induction charger but it doesn't seem to be charging the thing very well. It will sometimes turn on and I can see the battery is at 0% and it shuts down. do you think there is a chance there is a short in the port itself making it so that the battery drains itself? I left it charging overnight with no luck. What to do next? remove the port entirely while I wait for the new usb daughter board to come in the mail?
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I think it's more likely that the broken USB tab is causing either a short or has broken a connection the phone expects, which fools the circuitry into thinking the phone is plugged in to USB, which won't allow it to charge via Qi. You could try charging it with the daughterboard removed, but I'd be surprised if it works. Hopefully you have a back-up phone while you wait for the part, even if it's a RAZR V3 or Nokia 3310. SIM won't match, obviously, but you can probably pick up an adapter locally.
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I think it's more likely that the broken USB tab is causing either a short or has broken a connection the phone expects, which fools the circuitry into thinking the phone is plugged in to USB, which won't allow it to charge via Qi. You could try charging it with the daughterboard removed, but I'd be surprised if it works. Hopefully you have a back-up phone while you wait for the part, even if it's a RAZR V3 or Nokia 3310. SIM won't match, obviously, but you can probably pick up an adapter locally.
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That makes sense. I do have an old samsung tmobile phone that lasts about 4 hours on its battery. I guess I might be using that for a few days. I'ts at home though and I'm at work. It would be nice if this thing would just work. I need to find a t5 torx wrench and scew it up more......
mikkowus said:
That makes sense. I do have an old samsung tmobile phone that lasts about 4 hours on its battery. I guess I might be using that for a few days. I'ts at home though and I'm at work. It would be nice if this thing would just work. I need to find a t5 torx wrench and scew it up more......
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Some advice for someone who hasn't taken this phone apart yet:
First, go to ifixit and familiarize yourself with the teardown guide. There are also some youtube videos that are helpful (if you can't find them immediately, look for screen replacement guides.
Second, you'll need something thin and flat, and hopefully not with sharp edges. They make tools for this, but I doubt you'll be willing to order them and wait. Myself, I used the nail file from a keychain Swiss Army Knife. It's possible, even likely you'll cosmetically damage the plastic up a bit. If you have a hair drier (or even a heat gun), this can aid in softening up the adhesive. In any case, go slowly.
Do the disassembly over a fluffy towel. There are many tiny screws, and a fluffy towel will trap them rather than having them bounce away and disappear.
As I write this, another thought occurs to me. If you can, wait a few more days, but order yourself a new battery off eBay. Many sellers include the needed disassembly tools (including a T5 TORX, small Philips, and the plastic separating tools). Your Nexus 4 is probably 1.5-2.5 years old by now, which means your battery has had well over 500 cycles. At this point, you've lost upwards of 20% your battery's original capacity. Or don't wait, but order a new battery anyway and reopen the phone when you get it. The degradation of a battery is slow and one really doesn't notice it until that day you think to yourself "it seems like it used to last longer". Indeed, you may open up your phone to discover a puffed-out battery in desperate need of replacement anyway.
Planterz said:
Some advice for someone who hasn't taken this phone apart yet:
First, go to ifixit and familiarize yourself with the teardown guide. There are also some youtube videos that are helpful (if you can't find them immediately, look for screen replacement guides.
Second, you'll need something thin and flat, and hopefully not with sharp edges. They make tools for this, but I doubt you'll be willing to order them and wait. Myself, I used the nail file from a keychain Swiss Army Knife. It's possible, even likely you'll cosmetically damage the plastic up a bit. If you have a hair drier (or even a heat gun), this can aid in softening up the adhesive. In any case, go slowly.
Do the disassembly over a fluffy towel. There are many tiny screws, and a fluffy towel will trap them rather than having them bounce away and disappear.
As I write this, another thought occurs to me. If you can, wait a few more days, but order yourself a new battery off eBay. Many sellers include the needed disassembly tools (including a T5 TORX, small Philips, and the plastic separating tools). Your Nexus 4 is probably 1.5-2.5 years old by now, which means your battery has had well over 500 cycles. At this point, you've lost upwards of 20% your battery's original capacity. Or don't wait, but order a new battery anyway and reopen the phone when you get it. The degradation of a battery is slow and one really doesn't notice it until that day you think to yourself "it seems like it used to last longer". Indeed, you may open up your phone to discover a puffed-out battery in desperate need of replacement anyway.
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Cool. I did end up ordering a new battery because of just that thought. It will be coming Friday though so I might not want to wait. I'll probably end up opening it up twice.. I also happened to open the phone about a 3 weeks after I bought it as somehow the screen cracked. I also have a heatgun. The phone is pretty old. I got it on release.

Anyone heard of a heat issue with this phone?

Making this out of curiosity sake. YMMV obviously individually, but was reading LG's Facebook (it came up as a sponsored link) and there's some people mentioning the phone getting so hot it burns. There is also mentions of glass cracking (presumably from heat?) and there's a picture of charger cable nuked on Imgur...
I almost never read FB but I need it for business. I only saw the comments when reading the LG sponsored links. I really only read XDA/reddit but seeing the amount of comments spread across several posts. I was more surprised to have not seen it here with the complaints of the camera lens cracking...
Anyway, here is the imgur post if you're curious:
http://imgur.com/a/nDyyX
The only thing I've noticed is when charging my phone gets massively hot. I thought my S5 was hot... but this one has been noticeable to the point it's almost a bit concerning. So it was weird I'd been noticing this lately and then to read the posts, I'm like... well, there might be something to that. But more curious if others had noticed anything peculiar than concerned atm... My laptop charger gets stupid hot too, but it hasn't melted yet so I guess it just depends on different variables.
It's only when charging though. It is too hot to hold when it's at it's worst so I have to "fan" it out. Anyway, they make these things so temperamental (literally) now...
Edit: Restructured my post
Multi-year lurker, first time posting.
I saw this photo yesterday and it's certainly a concern. I mean, it was so hot the plastic melted onto his skin However, the imgur's OP doesn't show what charger was being used.
I've only had the phone for a couple of days, but so far I've charged two of these LG G6 phones with a variety of chargers and cables. I've used the original charger, computers, car chargers, multi-port chargers, and a wireless charging pad (with both the original cable and 3rd party cables) and not once it's gotten anywhere near hot.
Just one thought - the only thing I can think of that would contribute to the crazy heat is the fast charging capabilities. That is one thing I have not done - use the included charger to charge the phone directly. The one thing I use it for is to power the wireless charging pad. So that might account for the fact that I haven't experienced this crazy heat you're experiencing. Charged my phone with the fast charger and it remained cool as a cucumber, even inside a full cover case. YMMV
I have left the fast charger supplied with the phone plugged in for hours. Never got hot. Software controls it. It will get warm as any processor does during use so any software using the processor can heat up the phone. I have not experienced any abnormal heat issues. I known the old Samsung wojkd darn near give me 3rd degree burns it would get so hot, but the G6 is the coolest running phone I've had in a long time. YMMV
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The only time I notice it get warm on the back side of the phone while charging is while I'm using it at the same time. Not burn your hands warm, but toasty. I do leave it plugged in and turned on as a bedside clock but I haven't noticed it get hot just from that. It's only when I'm multitasking or watching YouTube or Netflix. But these fast chargers do concern me a bit. My Nexus 6 had micro usb fast charging and I noticed the battery life degraded horribly just after about 2 years of using the phone. That was the one thing I liked about the S7 I traded in for the G6 was that you were able to go into the system settings and turn off fast charge. That should be an option on all phones equipped with fast charge capabilities.

N7 Almost Burnt Up (Don't get complacent)

Just to serve a reminder to not become complacent as we've all had our devices for a very long time now.
I present to you my launch week Nexus 7 2013
https://imgur.com/a/pATRs
I had become somewhat complacent, especially being busy with a new job, a house move, and taking care of my mother post-brain surgery, and had ignored signs that I should be only using the wireless charger with my N7 as the USB port had become worn down enough that it wasn't making a tight connection with most USB cables. It had become worse of late as I had seen it renegotiate charging connections a few times (ie screen lights up to indicate charging and then lights up again 30 seconds later).
What happened basically was that I had left my N7 to charge and it got into a reconnection loop. I got back to my room and smelled the tell tale sign of burning electronics/plastics and frantically searched for the source. Last thing I checked was my tablet and I was horrified when I picked it up that it was very hot to the touch. I unplugged it saw that my OnePlus One cable had BBQ'd itself and the wrinkles on the casing of my N7. Of note, the battery was fully charged, the battery had no heat to it and the heat itself was entirely concentrated on the USB charging board area.
Let this also serve as a notice that it isn't generally a good idea to leave electronics charging unattended especially as they age. Everyone and anyone can get a little complacent.

Swappable Popsockets

Anyone try these? I ordered a couple along with a couple different tops, they'll be arriving in a couple days but I wanted to see if anyone else uses them. With such a big phone I wanted to get something that would give me some more grip (I'm a clumsy person by nature), but would also allow me to charge wirelessly without too much hassle. Hoping that the base doesn't stick out too terribly far from the case when the top is off...
They work well, but with the Ringke Air clear case wireless charging was terrible. (It would start and stop charging constantly). If you go naked wireless charging should be fine but there might be trouble with a case on.
mabencs said:
They work well, but with the Ringke Air clear case wireless charging was terrible. (It would start and stop charging constantly). If you go naked wireless charging should be fine but there might be trouble with a case on.
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Even when taking the top off? That's pretty disappointing as they claim to be better suited for wireless charging with the new generation of swappable ones. They arrive today, hopefully I'll have a better experience.
Yeah that was even when taking the top off, and honestly taking the top off is more hassle than just plugging in the charging cable.
mabencs said:
Yeah that was even when taking the top off, and honestly taking the top off is more hassle than just plugging in the charging cable.
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For me it's less about the hassle and more about the durability of the charging port. I've had too many phones wear out the charger port, so I try to stick with wireless charging when I can and only use the charger port when I need a top-off from a portable battery pack.
Update after an hour of playing with them:
I can get wireless charging to work by placing the bottom one low on the phone and the top one high enough that the ridge on the base doesn't come into contact with my charging stand. This also allows me to only have to take one of them off to charge wirelessly, with the top one popped out and "hooked" over the top of the base. This works for both my Samsung 2018 fast charge stand I use at home and my cheap stand I use on my desk. Decided to use two for the sake of using them as a horizontal stand (and the top one can be used to prop it up a little vertically as well).
Comfort-wise, I find it to be a lot better than relying solely on my pinky. I do find that I am resting my pinky along the bottom of the phone when I'm swyping to type, but the popsocket takes most of the weight off so I can just use my pinky to brace instead of bearing the whole weight of the phone. Overall I'm pleased!
I reused the pop from my S10+. I feel that it allows me to take pics one handed without worrying about dropping the phone. Like you said, it's a big device and mistakes happen.
Ace42 said:
I reused the pop from my S10+. I feel that it allows me to take pics one handed without worrying about dropping the phone. Like you said, it's a big device and mistakes happen.
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For one handed photos you have the s pen!!
Not trying to promote but the company i work for sell pop sockets and make custom designs etc I thought they were just a fad to begin with but a guy in work was using one and telling me how great it was and i gave in and tried one. They are so handy. They pretty much just aid in using ur phone in one hand really and can act as a prop / stand also. The only negative of using one that i can think of would be wireless charging

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