Question about rooting for first time (4.4) - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've never rooted a phone before and I'm a little nervous about doing so. I don't fully understand the difference between all the various ROM's. For instance are there advantages and disadvantages between the different ROMs that are floating around? Also what happens when 4.4 comes out? I'm assuming I'd be blocked from Updating. Would I have to wait until someone releases a 4.4 ROM? The main reason I want to Root is to remove all the useless apps Samsung/Tmobile stuck on my phone, but when I check out the processes, I don't even see that they are running. Would it even be worth it to root if this is the only reason I am doing it for?
I also see people talking about removing TouchWiz once they are rooted. I already am using Nova, but if I remove TouchWiz, will I just have the basic Android UI like I had on my Nexus? Or will I have to stick with a 3rd party launcher? Does removing TouchWiz result in a noticeable speed difference?

Hey rooting isn't for everyone. You could root and get rid of certain apps and bloatware. What I did before rooting was just disable and hide those apps.
It was fine but then as root user for a long time, I rooted and now use it more to tweak the look and feel.
The best way to know a rom is to try it.
I have used alot on this forum but currently feel comfortable with Omega Rom v6 with Wanam Xposed.
The possibilities are endless and as long as you understand the Knox flag then you should be free to try and do what you will.
Last if you ever want to just go back to stock and leave it there with updates it's pretty easy.
Sam mobile has always the latest updates available to download and you install those with Odin.
Good luck
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jetbruceli said:
Hey rooting isn't for everyone. You could root and get rid of certain apps and bloatware. What I did before rooting was just disable and hide those apps.
It was fine but then as root user for a long time, I rooted and now use it more to tweak the look and feel.
The best way to know a rom is to try it.
I have used alot on this forum but currently feel comfortable with Omega Rom v6 with Wanam Xposed.
The possibilities are endless and as long as you understand the Knox flag then you should be free to try and do what you will.
Last if you ever want to just go back to stock and leave it there with updates it's pretty easy.
Sam mobile has always the latest updates available to download and you install those with Odin.
Good luck
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Thanks for the response! May I ask how you disabled and hid the apps without rooting?

Nevermind actually, I figured out how to turn them off from the App info screen. But is there a way to hide them so they don't show up at all?
Edit: lol nevermind again. They disappear when you turn them off. Thank you so much for letting me know about this! I had no idea this was possible

brildenlanch said:
Thanks for the response! May I ask how you disabled and hid the apps without rooting?
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That's using the main launcher and also you can under application manager in settings
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jetbruceli said:
That's using the main launcher and also you can under application manager in settings
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Awesome! Again thank you for taking the time to help me out. I really appreciate it

No problem and thanks for hitting the thanks button
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Since I really don't care about my warranty, I just went and flashed TWRP via Odin.
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To root or not to root

To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
riz157 said:
To root or not to root
After my last bad experience and also after reading how some have faced issues after rooting their note 3 I was wondering if rooting has any adverse effects on the phones functionality. What are cons of rooting?
There's bit of lag on note 3 which is really annoying for such a beast.
Any advice would be much appreciated thanks
I own N9005 model from O2 unlocked.
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There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
elias2204 said:
There is an update from Samsung that should fix the lag.
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No update available for my model unfortunately.
CoolDevelopment said:
I would wait until a good (really) good rom is out
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Hmmm....are current roms poor or no improvement?
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
jigzopuzzle said:
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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But for a popular device like taht i won't take too long
I'm tossing up the same thing and wondering if anyone can answer this question. If I flash back to stock firmware after rooting will device status revert to official thus allowing me to have ota updates again or does setting the knox flag mean I will be system status modified forever?
I know knox flag can't be reverted but what about system status?
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jigzopuzzle said:
I've rooted my phone and hence sacrificed the ability to get OTA update from Samsung... but still, in my opinion, it really depends on the user own personal preference. I root my phone because there's a lot of apps that I am using requires root access (tasker, xposed, etc)...
There are currently not too many custom roms available for note 3 yet (as far as i know), better wait for a while if you're planning on rooting simply for the sake of flashing new rom. :good:
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Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
Mikegrmn said:
Same here.
Although I'd liked to get a good recovery, too. I just rooted with stock recovery, so I can't make a full nand-backup so far. I tried xposed yesterday, but it didn't work. And as long as there isn't a working recovery option (except for going back to stock and installing my apps again vs. installing the full OS including apps and settings), I probably won't try xposed again. But I do miss the "skip tracks with volume rocker" feature.
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According to this website xposed should work? Are you using version 2.2?
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Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Auto root by chainfire is the safest and easiest way ti root.
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riz157 said:
Which is the safest way to root please?
My main reason for rooting is to reduce lag and install custom ROMs, at the moment their aren't many ROMs to choose from but I'm sure it won't be too long before that changes.
Also My phone is from o2 and they are one of the carriers who still have their ugly logo bootup at startup, shut down which is very annoying.
Also if things go wrong I can still revert back to stock via Odin?
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Rooting or putting a custom rom(based on touchwiz) won't probably change anything.
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Yes that's true simply rooting wont get rid of lag however my main questions are which is the safest way to root and would I be able to flash generic rom via Odin? It's been awhile since I used Odin.
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Ever time I consider rooting I come across post were user bricked phone. This is really of putting don't fancy bricking my phone. However can't do with lag which is very annoying.
Which is the simplest and safest method of rooting?
Not worried about knox my Model N9005 on MJ3 FW, unlocked version from the UK. Thanks
Rooting does not brick your phone. Only users who don't read the instructions properly bricks their phones.
I have been rooting andriod phones since Samsung S2 with no bricks.
Rooting gives you 'Admin' rights on your phone and I want / need that to have full control of my device.
Rooting does not stop OTA updates but you will need to re-root for every new update.
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I had the same dilemma. I rooted my Note 1, flashed mods & ROMs, and it was eventually what I wanted. It was, however, locked in that version. I had no time to play with it any more, so left it.
On buying the Note 3, I flashed a stock ROM for the Note 1, got the updates, and it was much better than what I had customised. I guess I had my customised ROM earlier than any OTA update, so did benefit.
The other aspect is a firewall. You can now block apps from Mobile data access (although it is tedious), but not from WiFi access. You can, however, block the access that apps have to your data (although also tedious), so at least you may be safer.
Finally, we have the bloatware on the device. This generation of Andoid seems a bit better behaved than previous ones, and I can disable a lot of the stock apps, which is good. I am not finding any wakelocks (or at least not a great deal), and battery life is very good overall.
So, for me, I would like to have a firewall, but as for the rest of the system, it is perfectly good for me, and I have no current plans to root this device.
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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dholms said:
What's the easiest way of disabling stock apps such as trip advisor, flipboard, ant bloatware etc?
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Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
Techweed said:
Unfortunately some of the ones you listed cannot be turned off in the app manager. Many other apps, can however be turned off. Once I rooted I deleted most of the third party nonsense and froze most of the extra Samsung apps.
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Do you keep Knox counter at 0x0 if you fiddle with deleting stock apps?
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Unroot after rom flash?

I'm interested in flashing the Google Play Edition Rom to my Galaxy S4 I9505.
The walk throughs seem simple enough.
I've noticed that you need to root your phone it install the roms. After install is it possible to Unroot your device once your running the GPE rom? As I know some apps such as banking apps don't run on rooted devices.
Thanks
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grifflee said:
I'm interested in flashing the Google Play Edition Rom to my Galaxy S4 I9505.
The walk throughs seem simple enough.
I've noticed that you need to root your phone it install the roms. After install is it possible to Unroot your device once your running the GPE rom? As I know some apps such as banking apps don't run on rooted devices.
Thanks
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If you need to lock ur phone back I mean unroot
Just use triangle away app then flash the stock odin version of your phone with specific region.
And you can get it from sammobile
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You don't necessarily have to run stock to run "unrooted", because even some custom ROMs come without superuser priviledges. If you're talking about a specific ROM that comes stock rooted (which most are), then you might be able to get by if you simply disallow root access to that specific program. Otherwise, there are apps like Hide My Root which are supposed to help you do what you're trying to accomplish. If I were you, I would set it up and try it out on the actual program(s) you're worried about. It would be a shame to stay on stock just because you weren't sure if it would work.
You can temporarily unroot your device using super user app itself.. check it out in settings
Thanks a lot for all of the replies, you've been a great help.
I've not got round to rooting or flashing the GPE rom yet might do it this week.
This is my 1st time doing this so a little uncertain on some little things.
I know about uprooting, getting TWRP running, using Odin, then flashing the ROM. but just read that the ROM needs a new modem file flashing. Can you do this through TWRP or as I'm thinking do it through Odin after I've got the ROM up and running?
Thanks again for all your responses guys, been a great help
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***need help rooting***

What's up everyone, i'm new to the site and i was wondering if anyone would be willing to help me root my galaxy note 3. I've tried rooting in the past and failed terribly. I tried on a sprint gs3 and a verizon note 2, and i almost bricked both of them. So if someone with a lot of experience would help root my phone and install a custom rom, it would be greatly appreciated. As far as the type of rom, i could careless about appearance...i'm all about performance and battery life. So basically, i want a rom that "overclocks" my processor and removes bloatware and unnecessary apps. I'll take instructions on how to do it but i'd rather someone remotely control my pc [teamviewer] to help. I'll even paypal you like $5 for helping me. Thanks in advance!
I *would* help you, but I'm having issues rooting as well. I'm no where near new to it, been doing it since my HTC Fuze way back when. There are a couple of ways to root, Vroot, will pretty much root anything android and there is Kingo. I would give you links to both, but its not allowed, but you can do a quick google search and find them and info about them. If you're on the MJE build, I was successful with both methods, but I managed to cause a few issues when I was rooted with Kingo and had to Odin back to stock.
You need kingo 1.1.8 and safestrap. Both are one button operations. I rooted and had the safestrap installed and the modified twrp recovery in less than 3 minutes. Kingo 1.2 had a faulty script and causing errors.
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czach5932 said:
You need kingo 1.1.8 and safestrap. Both are one button operations. I rooted and had the safestrap installed and the modified twrp recovery in less than 3 minutes. Kingo 1.2 had a faulty script and causing errors.
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I rooted with kingo, it said successful. now what do I do? I don't know what to do with safestrap and all that other stuff. all I really want now is a ROM that will make my phone faster
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I rooted with kingo, it said successful. now what do I do? I don't know what to do with safestrap and all that other stuff. all I really want now is a ROM that will make my phone faster
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Obviously since the bootloader is locked down tight, if you want a custom rom, you need to use safestrap.
You need to download safestrap apk file from hashcode's website, open it, grant root permission, and install recovery.
Once you install recovery you can reboot to recovery right from the safestrap app, then create and activate rom-slot-1
Once active, you can flash/install your ROM.zip file (I would recommend Hyperdrive or Jelly Beans) and reboot...that's pretty much it in a nutshell, its relatively easy
Needing some help with rooting as well. Instead of making a new thread I figured I'd hijack this one
I just tried to root with Kingo, it failed to root. I have a S3 SCH-I535. Where do I go from here to successfully root my phone? I used Kingo 1.2.0.1876. I could not find version 1.1.8.
Worldshaker said:
Needing some help with rooting as well. Instead of making a new thread I figured I'd hijack this one
I just tried to root with Kingo, it failed to root. I have a S3 SCH-I535. Where do I go from here to successfully root my phone? I used Kingo 1.2.0.1876. I could not find version 1.8.
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Yo don't be hijacking my threads. Lol, jk. But if you google kingo and goto their website, you can hit their facebook page in the upper right corner. The facebook page has previous versions.
JONES774337 said:
Yo don't be hijacking my threads. Lol, jk. But if you google kingo and goto their website, you can hit their facebook page in the upper right corner. The facebook page has previous versions.
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Thanks, finally got the download. All 1.1.8 links were leading to 1.2 download, had to use a mirror download to get 1.1.8.
Starting root now, hope it doesnt brick! Before I start...I guess I should ask, will rooting and going to a custom ROM fix my battery drain issues? Since the 4.3 update I get about 6 hours of battery life while not using my phone at except to turn the screen on for 10 sec to check the battery level.
Worldshaker said:
Thanks, finally got the download. All 1.1.8 links were leading to 1.2 download, had to use a mirror download to get 1.1.8.
Starting root now, hope it doesnt brick! Before I start...I guess I should ask, will rooting and going to a custom ROM fix my battery drain issues? Since the 4.3 update I get about 6 hours of battery life while not using my phone at except to turn the screen on for 10 sec to check the battery level.
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If i had an answer to your question, i'd help you. But like i mentioned before, i'm new to the rooting process so you'll have to wait for an answer from these "experienced" fellas...
Well 1.1.8 failed as well. Get not supported error.
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Well 1.1.8 failed as well. Get not supported error.
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I honestly don't know what to tell you. I have a note 3 and 1.1.8 worked for me.
Are you sure it's 1.1.8? I tried many times and downloaded 1.2even thoughit said1.1.8 and finally found 1.1.8 from a user on xda. If you need I can upload the correct version. But as previously stated you can find the most up to date safe strap on the note 3 board. Install the app press install recovery and every time your phone boots it will ask continue or recovery. Make a backup of stock and restore to any slot you want If you want to do stock rooted or select any slot and flash any rom (make sure it's for the Verizon note 3 because with a locked bootloader you cannot flash kernels) I'm currently running neon rom and with moderate usage I'm getting almost 3 days on a single charge. I find wifi downloading I can destroy 40 percent battery in about 2 hours though. Any other questions don't hesitate to ask.
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Well 1.1.8 failed as well. Get not supported error.
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Most Likely downloaded the 1.2 version Like czach said.
look here v v v v
I have tried everything and I'm not having any success at all. I'm close to giving up unless someone has a better idea.
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You have to make sure you turn off antivirus. For me that meant turning off avg, Windows Defender and some other stuff I found it. Make sure you have developer options on USB debugging, screen stay on, and for some reason it seems like it helped to turn on unknown sources in your security settings on your phone. Sometimes it took me unplugging the USB and plugging it back in a few times in order for it to work but I just did it myself last week and making sure I did those things allowed me to do this pretty easily and reliably
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Alright I will give that a try later tonight. Appreciate it.
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None of those methods worked.
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I am on a Mac with a Windows 7 partition installed. Do you think this could be why it isn't working?
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evoplug said:
I am on a Mac with a Windows 7 partition installed. Do you think this could be why it isn't working?
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Have yet to read that a virtual windows system works.
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Ok I'm going to try using a friends windows laptop then.
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How delete carrier bloatware

Hi guys i got my phone from TMOBILE and its full with retarded apps
Most annoyingly they replaced stock samsung browser with their own
How do i delete Tmobile browser and install the stock samsung one?
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Xxul said:
Hi guys i got my phone from TMOBILE and its full with retarded apps
Most annoyingly they replaced stock samsung browser with their own
How do i delete Tmobile browser and install the stock samsung one?
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guys?
Install a custom rom.
dynospectrum said:
Install a custom rom.
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Or, just root the phone, easy to do. I'd also recommend that you put on custom recovery to be safe, as it can get you out of all sorts of trouble rather than having Samsung's lame recovery.
Once you've done that, install titanium backup from the store. Freeze any and all applications you want. Download your preferred applications and you are done.
Sure, you can go the extra step of putting on a third party ROM, but for most people, that's overkill.
Once you have root, a custom recovery and Titanium Backup installed, you might want to do three things:
1. Do a ROM backup from the recovery, after it's saved move to your PC. Keep it there for safekeeping.
2. Set up a backup schedule in Titanium Backup. Back up applications and data to an SD card
3. Install Xposed Framework, and then pick a good multi-porpose module like Wanam, and you can highly customize your phone without putting on a third party ROM.
All of these three things are available and easy to find in XDA. They make your experience more powerful, customizable and safer.
Thx !
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Xxul said:
Hi guys i got my phone from TMOBILE and its full with retarded apps
Most annoyingly they replaced stock samsung browser with their own
How do i delete Tmobile browser and install the stock samsung one?
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Just an fyi, it actually has the stock browser included called Internet. They just changed the home page to their own, you can change it back to whatever you like.
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Just an fyi, it actually has the stock browser included called Internet. They just changed the home page to their own, you can change it back to whatever you like.
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dayuuuum i did not know that
that made me so happy to know <3
btw where is the option in the stock browser to swipe with ur thumb on the edge of the screen to open a quick launch menu in the browser? (like in note 2)
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dayuuuum i did not know that
that made me so happy to know <3
btw where is the option in the stock browser to swipe with ur thumb on the edge of the screen to open a quick launch menu in the browser? (like in note 2)
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I dont believe it was included on the S5. I was more or less replaced with one handed mode (which can be activated in the settings) and several other actions.

[Q] Unroot S4 MF3

Greetings,
I ran multiple searches over XDA and the Internet, but I cannot find a conclusive way to safely remove root from MF3. It seems like all the info out there is old and not applicable.
With that said, I would greatly appreciate a point in the right direction. Thank you!
Do you have supersu installed? Just use the unroot in settings
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jd1639 said:
Do you have supersu installed? Just use the unroot in settings
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I came across this method in my search and it seemed some people were having issues with it... granted it was some time ago that that thread was active. I'm on the mobile app right now and can't find the referenced thread.
Have any issues with unrooting this way been rectified?... wife's phone and I am being very careful considering my limited knowledge.
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I came across this method in my search and it seemed some people were having issues with it... granted it was some time ago that that thread was active. I'm on the mobile app right now and can't find the referenced thread.
Have any issues with unrooting this way been rectified?... wife's phone and I am being very careful considering my limited knowledge.
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There's no issues. It works just fine, the only thing is that it will give you a custom flag if you have busybox installed. You could always get an installer from the market to check and remove it an then unroot.
DeadlySin9 said:
There's no issues. It works just fine, the only thing is that it will give you a custom flag if you have busybox installed. You could always get an installer from the market to check and remove it an then unroot.
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I got the phone to unroot, uninstalled all root apps first (xposed, etc). Phone is back to normal. Device Status: Official, if that means anything.
When I click on Software update, the phone does not respond or even attempt to look for an update. Kies says I'm running the latest firmware... what am I doing wrong.
Objective is to update to KitKat

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