Hello,
I can't find any reliable information for my question.
I'm planning to buy a (used) german Note 3 with MJ7-Bootloader.
Is there any way to root this phone WITHOUT tripping Knox?
I know there are several rooting-methods (e.g. the controversial KingoApp-root), but some of them don't work.
Does KingoApp work? I also know about the security-related things about this app!
Any information would be very useful!
Best regards and thanks a lot
cool400
cool400 said:
Hello,
I can't find any reliable information for my question.
I'm planning to buy a (used) german Note 3 with MJ7-Bootloader.
Is there any way to root this phone WITHOUT tripping Knox?
I know there are several rooting-methods (e.g. the controversial KingoApp-root), but some of them don't work.
Does KingoApp work? I also know about the security-related things about this app!
Any information would be very useful!
Best regards and thanks a lot
cool400
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If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
Gpsrisk said:
If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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At this time - No.
I think the only safe way of rooting MJ7 at this point is if you're coming from MJ1 and can root MJ1 first. If I remember correct, MJ3 and above installs a new bootloader which has been patched to prevent RDLV and similar to get around knox. Android 4.4 KitKat is almost here, so I wouldn't worry about it.. I rooted mine just to disable knox but apart from that it's not that much else to do with it.. A few mods with Wanam Xposed if you want, but there's not that much in there that is needed for the Note 3 in my opinion..
Gpsrisk said:
If Official Android 4.4 is on its way to NOTE 3 in the early quater of next year ...why root now and facing upgrading issues later? Morever all the encounters and experiences mentioned here is very inconclusive because majority of the forumers not only do not read first, they also do not know the phone well enough to express clearly how they had rooted their phones ( failures and/or success ).
Be patience is the key. Meantime just wait. I am sure someone will provide a safer rooting for MJ7.
Wait till someone is capable to come up with a safe rooting of MJ7
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What is the relation between rooting or tripping knox and issues getting android 4.4/kitkat later? You are not making sense.
And to OP, there is no way to root and not trip knox counter on mj7 for now.
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antt00 said:
What is the relation between rooting or tripping knox and issues getting android 4.4/kitkat later? You are not making sense.
And to OP, there is no way to root and not trip knox counter on mj7 for now.
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One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
Gpsrisk said:
One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
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the answer is YES but only if you are on an non-rooted ROM. basically you don't get updates only if you are rooted
Gpsrisk said:
One question .... if a knox is tripped ...would the phone be still getting official updates ? Anyone can share this ?
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Getting ota is related to the phone being in official status not knox. Even if you have issue with ota you can just download the official rom and flash with odin. There is no way tripping knox is going to prevent future rom upgrading.
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Should I upgrade from MJ7 to KitKat?
An uprage for KitKat arrived on my N9005 and I don't know if I should install it. I have the international Note3 version with MJ7 firmware and I would like to root my phone and install alternative ROM without knox tripping.
Does it make any sense to wait for safe way to root the phone?
Alex_007 said:
An uprage for KitKat arrived on my N9005 and I don't know if I should install it. I have the international Note3 version with MJ7 firmware and I would like to root my phone and install alternative ROM without knox tripping.
Does it make any sense to wait for safe way to root the phone?
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KK for me is way much better than JB. Battery life is way much better than JB, and it is much smoother. This is what I've experienced on my phone. So it's your decision to make. But, my suggestion, if you want to upgrade, don't take from OTA, better you flash from ODIN (download the official firmware from samfirmware, and flash it from ODIN), and do a factory reset after that.
If you still want to stay at MJ7, and root it, I can only tell you, up to now I write this, there's still no method for a safe tripping root method for MJ7, because this firmware has a new bootloader for 4.3 which has a samsung patch. And don't ever think to downgrade to earlier 4.3, coz this is also impossible.
If you want to safe your KNOX flag, at the moment, don't root. If you want to root, you have to let go your KNOX flag.
You can wait, but nobody knows how long you should wait. because at the other end, samsung also keep on updating its bootloader.
Choice is yours, mate.
Cheers.
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KK for me is way much better than JB. Battery life is way much better than JB, and it is much smoother. This is what I've experienced on my phone. So it's your decision to make. But, my suggestion, if you want to upgrade, don't take from OTA, better you flash from ODIN (download the official firmware from samfirmware, and flash it from ODIN), and do a factory reset after that.
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Thanks for a prompt answer! As I'm a bit of a newbie, I would like to ask you, what is the advantage of flashing through Odin? I guess my data won't be deleted and knox won't be affected.
I'm a bit afraid to choose wrong firmware and brick my phone. Is there anything I should be careful about?
I just selected the firmware from sammobile based on the filter model and country. I hope, it's the right one.
Also is the factory reset necessary? I have quite a lot applications with adjusted settings on the phone. After the the factory reset I would need to reinstall everything and also do the settings again.
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Thanks for a prompt answer! As I'm a bit of a newbie, I would like to ask you, what is the advantage of flashing through Odin? Will my data be lost after firmware update through Odin?
I'm a bit afraid to choose wrong firmware and brick my phone. Is there anything I should be careful about?
I just selected the firmware from sammobile based on the filter model and country. I hope, it's the right one.
Also is the factory reset necessary? I have quite a lot applications with adjusted settings on the phone. After the the factory reset I would need to reinstall everything and also do the settings again.
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Flashing full firmware through odin is better. Coz I experienced bad thing through ota before. As well as kies, but could be a bad download though.
Yes u just find a firmware for ur device and flsh through odin.
Btw u can use NC2 czhech... this is the newest.
Factory reset is needed once u complete the flashing and stuck at bootloop. And yes since u r not rooted, I don't think u can backup nd restore ur current apps. So u will need to reinstall after a reset.
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antique_sonic said:
Flashing full firmware through odin is better. Coz I experienced bad thing through ota before. As well as kies, but could be a bad download though.
Yes u just find a firmware for ur device and flsh through odin.
Btw u can use NC2 czhech... this is the newest.
Factory reset is needed once u complete the flashing and stuck at bootloop. And yes since u r not rooted, I don't think u can backup nd restore ur current apps. So u will need to reinstall after a reset.
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Thanks, it worked fine. Everything remained installed, so I don't have to reinstall or restore anything. Also knox if still fine.
But I'm quite disappointed by Samsung approach. I'm missing some features from my rooted SIII, so it's probably only a matter of time before I root the device (with or without the knox).
Alex_007 said:
Thanks, it worked fine. Everything remained installed, so I don't have to reinstall or restore anything. Also knox if still fine.
But I'm quite disappointed by Samsung approach. I'm missing some features from my rooted SIII, so it's probably only a matter of time before I root the device (with or without the knox).
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Not trying to scare u. But u better backup ur contacts, sms, or other stuff from ur internal storage.
My last bad experience was... yes device nver ask to factory reset after update. But after few weeks of usage, it suddenly freeze until very hot, and reboot, and voila... all gone.
This happen to note 2 when upgrade via ota from 4.1.2 to 4.3. and device belongs to my boss, and I m the one who did the ota update. So happy when don't need to factory reset, but I got Fcuk when his data all suddenly gone.
Anyway... no harm back up ur important data.
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Hi, i have been reading 4.3 update for my version of galaxy s4 and i have a couple of questions. Is it recommended to do this update?(i have version i9500). Is knox included in 4.3 update? I mean, i only read that knox bootloader is for i9505 so far...
PD: My current android version is 4.2.2 JellyBean (Official firmware)
Thanks you in advance
Get one thing straight, this 4.3 is an official update, so yes, you should upgrade. Yes, Knox is included. There will be loads of nuisance saying don't upgrade and all, but stop paying attention to clueless comments.
1. If you have a rooted device would suggest you to a wait as many people with rooted devices don't want the 4.3 update. Else you can definitely update to 4.3.
2. Yes obviously 4.3 includes the Knox for i9500 as well.
Gab! said:
Hi, i have been reading 4.3 update for my version of galaxy s4 and i have a couple of questions. Is it recommended to do this update?(i have version i9500). Is knox included in 4.3 update? I mean, i only read that knox bootloader is for i9505 so far...
PD: My current android version is 4.2.2 JellyBean (Official firmware)
Thanks you in advance
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jujuburi said:
Get one thing straight, this 4.3 is an official update, so yes, you should upgrade. Yes, Knox is included. There will be loads of nuisance saying don't upgrade and all, but stop paying attention to clueless comments.
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Isn't there a downside of having Knox? Btw, has anybody tried out the unknown firmware yet? Should i perform a factory reset if i decide to update my phone via ODIN(There's no update for my country yet)?
Thanks you in advance
Gab! said:
Isn't there a downside of having Knox? Btw, has anybody tried out the unknown firmware yet? Should i perform a factory reset if i decide to update my phone via ODIN(There's no update for my country yet)?
Thanks you in advance
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I don't really know, it is put there by Samsung for a reason. If you don't like Knox stuffs then you can disable/freeze them via Titanium.
You can download Indian 4.3 ROM and flash it via Odin. I don't know whether it'll wipe your device or not, but it's an official ROM, so I guess it should not wipe your data. Still, to be safe, make a full backup of your phone via Titanium or any software of your choice.
jujuburi said:
I don't really know, it is put there by Samsung for a reason. If you don't like Knox stuffs then you can disable/freeze them via Titanium.
You can download Indian 4.3 ROM and flash it via Odin. I don't know whether it'll wipe your device or not, but it's an official ROM, so I guess it should not wipe your data. Still, to be safe, make a full backup of your phone via Titanium or any software of your choice.
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I heard that u can't root the device if u have Knox bootloader, so i dont think Titanium will work. Did u already update your GS4? If so, how's the overall functionality?
Gab! said:
I heard that u can't root the device if u have Knox bootloader, so i dont think Titanium will work. Did u already update your GS4? If so, how's the overall functionality?
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There's a way around, and it's pretty simple. Just look under general section, there's a topic by Degraded Shadow (sorry if I misspelled).
No, I have not flashed 4.3 yet, only one reason, I use a custom kernel, and I know that kernel is having a typical wakelock problem at the moment, when it's fixed I will flash 4.3. I am excited by the users feedback though, lots of people said lot less lags in camera and gallery, the device feels smoother overall and finally a true full screen browser and all.....all are users reviews, not mine
Is it safe to upgrade my i9500 to 4.3, because i heared some problems of battery draining , overheating and some other problems, im still on 4.2.2 MG9 build, is it safe to upgrade and not be afraid of having any problems ?
Hi, is it possible to root the Note 3 without having to wipe all the data off the phone. I recently got my phone a week ago, and I know I should have rooted right away, but now I have all my apps and their save data on there and I dont want to lose that
I know on my old droid 4 it was possible to root it without losing everything, so I'm hoping its the same for the much more popular and know
and one other question: What happens if my phone recieves an OTA update while rooted? will it get bricked?
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Hi, is it possible to root the Note 3 without having to wipe all the data off the phone. I recently got my phone a week ago, and I know I should have rooted right away, but now I have all my apps and their save data on there and I dont want to lose that
I know on my old droid 4 it was possible to root it without losing everything, so I'm hoping its the same for the much more popular and know
and one other question: What happens if my phone recieves an OTA update while rooted? will it get bricked?
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I rooted my Note 3 while I'm in MJ1 firmware with Root De La Vega method, and knox is still 0x0. During that process no data is wiped and everything is intact.
You need to know which firmware you are in now as firmware with MJ3 and above comes with a new bootloader which will trip the knox counter if you root your device
williamyi said:
I rooted my Note 3 while I'm in MJ1 firmware with Root De La Vega method, and knox is still 0x0. During that process no data is wiped and everything is intact.
You need to know which firmware you are in now as firmware with MJ3 and above comes with a new bootloader which will trip the knox counter if you root your device
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Well it says under phone settings that the kernel version is 3.4.0, and android version 4.3. I'm not sure if thats a sign of which firmware im on. I do know that also right after I got my phone a week ago that an OTA was installed to it
robotnikman said:
Well it says under phone settings that the kernel version is 3.4.0, and android version 4.3. I'm not sure if thats a sign of which firmware im on. I do know that also right after I got my phone a week ago that an OTA was installed to it
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You need to look at your Build Number in Setting > About Phone / or in your dialer press *#1234# to get your AP version.
But since you say you updated your phone via OTA then it means your phone now has the new evil bootloader which will trip the knox if you root your Note 3.
If you really don't care about the knox counter and want to root so badly, then just root it with CF Root.
williamyi said:
You need to look at your Build Number in Setting > About Phone / or in your dialer press *#1234# to get your AP version.
But since you say you updated your phone via OTA then it means your phone now has the new evil bootloader which will trip the knox if you root your Note 3.
If you really don't care about the knox counter and want to root so badly, then just root it with CF Root.
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Well I guess I just have to be careful with my phone. My only worry is if i cant trade this phone in a year later for a new one, since im on the verizon edge plan. Then again, they took my beaten up and rooted Droid 4 without any questions
though rooting using the methode here wont break my phone even if i'm updated?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481590
williamyi said:
You need to look at your Build Number in Setting > About Phone / or in your dialer press *#1234# to get your AP version.
But since you say you updated your phone via OTA then it means your phone now has the new evil bootloader which will trip the knox if you root your Note 3.
If you really don't care about the knox counter and want to root so badly, then just root it with CF Root.
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It doesnt seem like there is a version of CF Root for SM-N900V. were you talking about the CF autoroot method here?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466423
Well..
I actually want to start a new thread. But it seems, there's a similar thread here (not meant to hijack this thread, but rather than have too much thread)
Hope someone can clear up my mind. Still new with this device (N9005), and this irritating KNOX issue all over the Samsung Note XDA forums.
1st Q : I'm on MJ7, and I know there's no way to root again without tripping KNOX. Am I right ?
2nd Q : If let's say I don't care about KNOX warranty issue, and up to now, I haven't used/activated the KNOX container/apps. If I root my device use CF-AutoRoot, will I be able to remove all the KNOX container & apps ?
3rd Q : Still in link of 2nd Q, If let's say after root with CF-Autoroot, and KNOX become 0x1, are there any effects which might make my device can't flash custom ROM ? or might make my device can't flash custom recovery ?
4th Q : Other than the issue of warranty 0x1 has made... Is there anything which might make my device run hell wire regarding this tripping issue?
Thanks!
antique_sonic said:
Well..
I actually want to start a new thread. But it seems, there's a similar thread here (not meant to hijack this thread, but rather than have too much thread)
Hope someone can clear up my mind. Still new with this device (N9005), and this irritating KNOX issue all over the Samsung Note XDA forums.
1st Q : I'm on MJ7, and I know there's no way to root again without tripping KNOX. Am I right ?
2nd Q : If let's say I don't care about KNOX warranty issue, and up to now, I haven't used/activated the KNOX container/apps. If I root my device use CF-AutoRoot, will I be able to remove all the KNOX container & apps ?
3rd Q : Still in link of 2nd Q, If let's say after root with CF-Autoroot, and KNOX become 0x1, are there any effects which might make my device can't flash custom ROM ? or might make my device can't flash custom recovery ?
4th Q : Other than the issue of warranty 0x1 has made... Is there anything which might make my device run hell wire regarding this tripping issue?
Thanks!
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1. That's correct.
2. Once you root the phone the KNOX container will not be functioning anymore although the knox app download icon is still there.
3. Tripping Knox to 0X1 doesn't have anything to do with flashing custom rom or recovery. You'll be able to do both.
4. No. In fact for me, Knox is the only thing keeping me from enjoying my phone so after just 2 weeks of owning it, tripped knox and I couldn't be happier.
hey_joe said:
1. That's correct.
2. Once you root the phone the KNOX container will not be functioning anymore although the knox app download icon is still there.
3. Tripping Knox to 0X1 doesn't have anything to do with flashing custom rom or recovery. You'll be able to do both.
4. No. In fact for me, Knox is the only thing keeping me from enjoying my phone so after just 2 weeks of owning it, tripped knox and I couldn't be happier.
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Thanks...
So... CFautoroot is the simplest nd best way to root mj7 (assuming I ignore those knox)?
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antique_sonic said:
Thanks...
So... CFautoroot is the simplest nd best way to root mj7 (assuming I ignore those knox)?
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Yes. You have to download this one. The updated CF-Auto root will bootloop your phone.
Okie. Many thanks for the link.
But why the updated one is not as good as the old one? Doesn't new version tend to be better... always?
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antique_sonic said:
Okie. Many thanks for the link.
But why the updated one is not as good as the old one? Doesn't new version tend to be better... always?
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The updated one was based on 4.4.2 so if you have 4.3 it will bootloop.
Hi can I ask a simple question please ... If I root my phone will I still be able to update via kies or install new stock firmwares via odin ?
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zipolly said:
Hi can I ask a simple question please ... If I root my phone will I still be able to update via kies or install new stock firmwares via odin ?
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I don't know about kies but you can definitely update through odin.
Cheers Thanks for the reply mate
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Np.
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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no it wont
markslo112 said:
What if you try to just reset the phone to factory settings? I wouldn't know anything about Knox though. Hope you sort it out. :fingers-crossed:
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Tnx for the tip. Already tried that 2 times. No luck
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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it won't trip Knox, i tried it several times as long as they are official roms
Cootje_NL said:
I have a phone which has a lot of problems after the KitKat update.
Now I want to try to reinstall KitKat. Samsung doesn't provide this, so I want to use ODIN and the firmware from SamMobile.
Does anybody know if I will do this that it will trip the Knox counter?
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long as they are official samsung roms you be ok....
I reinstalled my firmware and I can confirm that it indeed won't trip Knox.
As it might be useful I also want to share that updating using my Mac (with VMWare for Windows) gave me a lot of troubles. After using a native Windows laptop the update went fine.
Too bad it didn't solve my problem. Going back to the store to claim my warranty.
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So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?
Medical HRH said:
So forgive me if I'm asking a stupid question here but I thought that if I root my Note 3 I will automatically trip the Knox counter, even before I get anywhere near flashing a new ROM - stock or custom. Is that not true then?
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You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...
ultramag69 said:
You won't trip Knox if you install a KK rom but will if you try to flash bak JB.
Any form of rooting will trip Knox. There used to be safe ways that didn't but with the introduction of the newer bootloaders this is no longer guaranteed...
Have you tried backing up any info you want to keep to a pc then factory resetting, I found KK was a b!tch until I reset it due to old JB data scraps causing issues...
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I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?
Medical HRH said:
I'm on stock 4.3 and not having any issues at the moment - other than my Note 3 not picking up the 4G signal on 3 for some infuriating reason.
So can I flash a stock KK rom without rooting then? I'm probably being thick but thought you had to be rooted to flash any kind of ROM?
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You have to be rooted to flash the custom roms provided here and that will mostly be thru recovery. It will surely trip knox. To flash stock roms from sammobile you don't need root. That can be done thru odin.
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I would suggest however, if you are network locked to unlock 1st... If you need to flash a separate modem afterwards this can trip Knox as you aren't really using a "Stock rom"...
Also make sure re-activation lock is OFF.... If you go to Kitkat and you don't have a KK rom yet you are stuck with a softbricked phone until you do get the KK rom... You can't go back to JB after flashing KK rom due to a new bootloader...
I've been wanting to have Android 4.4.2 on my Note 3 N9005 for a long time and my Carrier still hasn't released official 4.4 update. I've had enough waiting and want to root and install a custom 4.4 rom on my Note 3 N9005(international). Would anyone be so kind to give me detailed information on how to do so, or at least point me in the right direction. I've also got a few questions.
1. Is there any way to leave Knox not tripped?
2. Is there any way to downgrade from a custom ROM to my official 4.3 rom if I'll need my garrancy?
Thanks in advance! :fingers-crossed:
markslo112 said:
I've been wanting to have Android 4.4.2 on my Note 3 N9005 for a long time and my Carrier still hasn't released official 4.4 update. I've had enough waiting and want to root and install a custom 4.4 rom on my Note 3 N9005(international). Would anyone be so kind to give me detailed information on how to do so, or at least point me in the right direction. I've also got a few questions.
1. Is there any way to leave Knox not tripped?
2. Is there any way to downgrade from a custom ROM to my official 4.3 rom if I'll need my garrancy?
Thanks in advance! :fingers-crossed:
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On N9005 there is no way back. Knowing that you must really analyze the benefits vs losses/risks. Which for instance for me at this point do not justify the move (but I am rooted and I already have 99% of what 4.4 brings).
xclub_101 said:
On N9005 there is no way back. Knowing that you must really analyze the benefits vs losses/risks. Which for instance for me at this point do not justify the move (but I am rooted and I already have 99% of what 4.4 brings).
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Are you suggesting that I should stay on my stock ROM and wait for 4.4? I've read things about 4.4 and a lot of people say it's a lot better than 4.3, faster, etc. I'm really tired of waiting, my carrier sucks.
If you just want to have 4.4.2 and stay official, pick one of any released official 4.4.2 firmwares available to flash.
Spoon feeding at it's finest...
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nlatifolia said:
If you just want to have 4.4.2 and stay official, pick one of any released official 4.4.2 firmwares available to flash.
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Alright, but do I need to be rooted or do I need to have a custom recovery before flashing via Odin? Will flashing an official ROM trigger Knox to 0x1 or will it leave it unchanged because I don't want my garrancy void?
@markslo112 you don't need nothing but your phone, usb cable and pc to flash with odin. Flashing an offcial rom will NOT trigger Knox!
Sent from Note 3 Superphone!
ione2380 said:
@markslo112 you don't need nothing but your phone, usb cable and pc to flash with odin. Flashing an offcial rom will NOT trigger Knox!
Sent from Note 3 Superphone!
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Ok that's good to hear. If I flash 4.4, will I still be able to install a custom recovery and then a custom Rom? I'm just asking because if I get tired of stock 4.4. Also, is it safe to flash via Odin? I don't want my phone to get bootloops or anything.
Thanks!
I think before you do anything to your phone for the good of yourself you better stop posting and do more reading instead in this forum. You will confuse yourself by asking more and seems not knowing what you are asking about.
markslo112 said:
Ok that's good to hear. If I flash 4.4, will I still be able to install a custom recovery and then a custom Rom? I'm just asking because if I get tired of stock 4.4. Also, is it safe to flash via Odin? I don't want my phone to get bootloops or anything.
Thanks!
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You will be able to install custom recovery/rom but it will trip your knox.
It is safe but do some reading maybe even watching a video or two on youtube to familiarize yourself on which files goes to which slot. Also, you won't be able to roll back to 4.3 at this time once you go to 4.4.
nlatifolia said:
I think before you do anything to your phone for the good of yourself you better stop posting and do more reading instead in this forum. You will confuse yourself by asking more and seems not knowing what you are asking about.
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Well I've actually rooted and installed custom ROMS on almost every other phone I had, but the Note 3 is far the best mobile I've had and I really don't want to screw anything up. I do have experience with Odin, but I've never had any experience with Knox as no other phones had it. But I will go ahead and read stuff up.
Thanks to everyone that helped though! :fingers-crossed:
UPDATE:
Alright, so I tried flashing an official 4.4.2 firmware for my region onto my Note 3 with 4.3 via Odin 3.09. It started perfectly, but then gave me an error which said "invalid ext4 image". After a long search I did manage to find a PIT file for my phone. I then tried flashing again, but this time with the PIT file that I downloaded. It flashed fine, had to factory reset and wipe cache also. :victory:
I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to the OTA 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
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I have a N900W8 (Canadian Note 3) which is on 4.3 Jelly Bean.
It was rooted, tried to update to 4.4.2 and was denied with a "custom" error.
So I used SuperSU full unroot option, still custom system status, cannot upgrade.
I have downloaded 4.3 and 4.4.2 stock firmwares that correlate with my CSC from sam-mobile, my question:
If I use Odin 3.09 to install the 4.3 firmware again to get back to stock, will this trip Knox? Also I am assuming if it will not I would be ok to upload the 4.4.2 firmware directly after as well, via Odin 3.09?
Let me know if you can, really itching to do this, will not do it blindly however. Need an answer from another member before I go ahead.
I hate Knox so much, last Samsung phone for sure. Stuck with it now however, I had no idea about Knox, had I known I would have most likely kept the Nexus 5 I traded for this beast,
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knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
jaythenut said:
knox will only trip if you root wrong ,so just flash 4.4.2 stock with odin and all will be fine
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Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Yes your be fine but you will loose root
nexxusty said:
Well, Knox was not tripped when it was rooted.
The thing is, I did not root this phone. The person I bought it off did.
He did it right as it did not trip Knox.
Can I assume that since Knox was not tripped I can flash with Odin and still not trip it?
I appreciate the reply my friend.
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Also, any idea how to reset the flash counter after flashing 4.4.2? Or will it be ok considering I only rooted?
Not sure on this either.
jaythenut said:
Yes your be fine but you will loose root
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NP losing root.
Thanks!
Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
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Just started flashing.
Hoping everything will be ok.
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No issues, back to Official status.
I actually have major flashlighting on the left side of my screen. Only visible with white is anywhere BUT the left side of the screen (Best way I can explain it). Anyone know if Samsung will repair this?
Not interested in defective hardware, it's obvious this Note 3 is a one off and needs a new screen. Hoping Samsung is not going to deny me.
Just need to pick up my replacement HTC One on my actual plan (Bought this one straight up, HTC One I had was lost, have insurance.).
REALLY would like to know about the flash counter before I send this off. It has been rooted with Root De La Whatever it is (LOL) then unrooted via SuperSU, then I Odin'd the 4.4.2 update. There was a checkbox ticked called "F.Reset Time", is that it?
I'll look a bit before making my own thread on this one if no has a quick answer.
Thanks again, XDA never lets me down.