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How moddable is the G2? Galaxy Note user looking to switch

Hi everyone
I'm a long time SGS2 and a galaxy Note user, and lately I've been thinking about buying an LG G2 (unlocked international).
since I'm a power user who hates Samsung's heavy skin, and seeing how close LG's skin is to that of it's home rival, I need to know how open to modding and flashing the G2 is?
the N7000 was pretty moddable but use anything other than samsung's stock based ROMs, and you have to deal with sudden reboots and crashes, and that's the case with all AOSP ROMs for me (currently running OMNI ROM on it, and it still reboots out of the blue at times)
so is the LG G2 anay different? is it easy to flash new ROMs to? how stable are AOSP ROMs on it? any features to be lost? (like the BIONZ image sensor on sony's z1 for example).
also any other advice and opinions on the device would be highly appreciated
thx folks

Aosp are generally getting a lot better, a few reboots every day is to be expected, however. The phone is quite moddable, you can install custom recoveries and flash custom Roms, although the bootloader is locked.
You will miss out on quite a few features, but some of them can be flashed back. You might find stock best for you and since you are an sgs2 user I'm sure you will appreciate the fact that dorimanx develops kernels for this beast. Best of luck.
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Features to be lost - IR blaster, Qslide, and what not if you're running an AOSP ROM. Knock on works for most AOSP ROMs but Knockoff only works for some.
There're still some bugs with the ROMs, yes, but most should be pretty stable for you to use your G2 as your daily driver.
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So it's almost the same as the Galaxy Note, hmmm..that's useful info, thank you guys so much

MR.change said:
Hi everyone
I'm a long time SGS2 and a galaxy Note user, and lately I've been thinking about buying an LG G2 (unlocked international).
since I'm a power user who hates Samsung's heavy skin, and seeing how close LG's skin is to that of it's home rival, I need to know how open to modding and flashing the G2 is?
the N7000 was pretty moddable but use anything other than samsung's stock based ROMs, and you have to deal with sudden reboots and crashes, and that's the case with all AOSP ROMs for me (currently running OMNI ROM on it, and it still reboots out of the blue at times)
so is the LG G2 anay different? is it easy to flash new ROMs to? how stable are AOSP ROMs on it? any features to be lost? (like the BIONZ image sensor on sony's z1 for example).
also any other advice and opinions on the device would be highly appreciated
thx folks
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close your eyes, buy the nexus 5 this is ocming from a X galaxy nexus user ! its easy as **** ! fastboot oem-unlock ,BANG root and do **** from fastboot ! while on the g2 its not that simple, its tough and many people have semi bricked their devices. so if your a flashahoilic like how i used to be, i suggest you get the nexus 5 . so why did i buy a g2 ? frankly speaking, it has everything i want to use in its STOCK ROM ! yup its a dafuq moment right there mate touch to wake,manual focus camera,a HUUUGE battery , good screen on time, a remote ( turned off the projector in college lectures ROFL etc etc ) i love this phone and just waiting for kitkat to be released officially. and also , this phone DOES NOT SLOW DOWN over time ! my friends note 2 got dam slow after about 2 weeks while the g2 is going just buttery smooth even on 4.2.2 . so it depends upon what you want
edit- lg's ui looks similar to the ****whiz of samsung but it does not slow down like ****whiz does

Also on the G2 you can mod just about everything with the Xposed mod, check it out and you will get an idea of what you can do to the G2 with that alone.
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shriom_manerker said:
close your eyes, buy the nexus 5 this is ocming from a X galaxy nexus user ! its easy as **** ! fastboot oem-unlock ,BANG root and do **** from fastboot ! while on the g2 its not that simple, its tough and many people have semi bricked their devices. so if your a flashahoilic like how i used to be, i suggest you get the nexus 5 . so why did i buy a g2 ? frankly speaking, it has everything i want to use in its STOCK ROM ! yup its a dafuq moment right there mate touch to wake,manual focus camera,a HUUUGE battery , good screen on time, a remote ( turned off the projector in college lectures ROFL etc etc ) i love this phone and just waiting for kitkat to be released officially. and also , this phone DOES NOT SLOW DOWN over time ! my friends note 2 got dam slow after about 2 weeks while the g2 is going just buttery smooth even on 4.2.2 . so it depends upon what you want
edit- lg's ui looks similar to the ****whiz of samsung but it does not slow down like ****whiz does
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Haha! no man I'm not a flashaholic or anything I just want something that works and works smoothly, can you believe I never ever flashed anything on my SGS2? it just worked beautifully on GB, but then I got the note and all that changed, it was slow as ****! had to flash a tons of different ROMs on it! :/
hmmm..now I'm seriously considering the G2! so how's the RAM consumption? the LG UI looks heavy but you guys are saying it's light? like...finally lag free? yay! hmm, and how's the stability of stock? my friend's S4 randomly reboots even on stock, but my brother's HTC ONE never ever rebooted in the 4 months we've bought it
so is the G2 that stable with stock? and did LG improve it's record at software updates? do you expect to receive kitkat soon?
also, the 16 GB version is only 420$ where I live, while the 32GB version is 510$ unlocked, I'm thinking of getting the 16GB version just because if I go with the 32GB then the note 3 is just 70$ away hahahaha!
I don't install games, so I don't think storage would be an issue, what do you think? and is it different when installing ROMs? the 16 from the 32 GB version? I don't think it matters since flashing ROMs shouldn't affect the partitioning table (well unless you specifically flash a partitioning file!), but who knows how LG does things.
also...I think I'm getting either the Gold or the Red versions since they're Matte! any of you had an experience with those?
nice one witht he projector btw hahaha

MR.change said:
Haha! no man I'm not a flashaholic or anything I just want something that works and works smoothly, can you believe I never ever flashed anything on my SGS2? it just worked beautifully on GB, but then I got the note and all that changed, it was slow as ****! had to flash a tons of different ROMs on it! :/
hmmm..now I'm seriously considering the G2! so how's the RAM consumption? the LG UI looks heavy but you guys are saying it's light? like...finally lag free? yay! hmm, and how's the stability of stock? my friend's S4 randomly reboots even on stock, but my brother's HTC ONE never ever rebooted in the 4 months we've bought it
so is the G2 that stable with stock? and did LG improve it's record at software updates? do you expect to receive kitkat soon?
also, the 16 GB version is only 420$ where I live, while the 32GB version is 510$ unlocked, I'm thinking of getting the 16GB version just because if I go with the 32GB then the note 3 is just 70$ away hahahaha!
I don't install games, so I don't think storage would be an issue, what do you think? and is it different when installing ROMs? the 16 from the 32 GB version? I don't think it matters since flashing ROMs shouldn't affect the partitioning table (well unless you specifically flash a partitioning file!), but who knows how LG does things.
also...I think I'm getting either the Gold or the Red versions since they're Matte! any of you had an experience with those?
nice one witht he projector btw hahaha
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I would generally consider the 32 gb option the better option here since it's really 10 gb of storage vs 24 gb of storage. You can't mess with partitions - at least nobody tried.
I would slam a case on it anyway since it's so fragile. The zero-gap screen technology makes the digitizer break if the screen breaks.

vPro97 said:
I would generally consider the 32 gb option the better option here since it's really 10 gb of storage vs 24 gb of storage. You can't mess with partitions - at least nobody tried.
I would slam a case on it anyway since it's so fragile. The zero-gap screen technology makes the digitizer break if the screen breaks.
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yeah..but it's also almost a 100$ more :/
I'll have to consider this more carefully I think!
lucky I rarely drop my phone, and with something as big and heavy as the note to be only dropped 3 times in two years (on carpet when I'm lazily using it in bed ) I think I can manage a relatively small device just fine....but yeah a case is a smart idea I guess!
thx mate

MR.change said:
yeah..but it's also almost a 100$ more :/
I'll have to consider this more carefully I think!
lucky I rarely drop my phone, and with something as big and heavy as the note to be only dropped 3 times in two years (on carpet when I'm lazily using it in bed ) I think I can manage a relatively small device just fine....but yeah a case is a smart idea I guess!
thx mate
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i would most definitely go with the 32gb version. especially if you like to have a bunch of music files or videos on your phone. this phone has a sweet DAC in it, so it makes playing my flac files that much better. i have a 32gb g2 and i have 14gb of space left. if i had a 16gb g2 i'd have low space. g2 tweaksbox, g2 xposed and gravitybox [jb] give you everything you'd want on stock rom that aosp/cm have for jelly bean.

freebee269 said:
i would most definitely go with the 32gb version. especially if you like to have a bunch of music files or videos on your phone. this phone has a sweet DAC in it, so it makes playing my flac files that much better. i have a 32gb g2 and i have 14gb of space left. if i had a 16gb g2 i'd have low space. g2 tweaksbox, g2 xposed and gravitybox [jb] give you everything you'd want on stock rom that aosp/cm have for jelly bean.
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Alright, so ladies and gentlemen, it's time for an update:
I bought a white D802 32GB version a couple of days ago, but didn't really have much time to get online, so far I like it, the speed, the battery life, but there are also a few quirks, occasional stuttering (nothing major, just every once in a while), KNOCK ON doesn't always work from the first time for some reason, and the screen..even though great by any standard, but damn AMOLEDs have spoiled my eyes, I can notice the color shifting from angles and it bothers me at times!
but yeah.......I'm part of the LG G2 XDA club now thx for everything folks

Which one to replace Nexus 5? (Z1 vs G2)

I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.

The lg g2 is the same hardware as the nexus 5 and it has worse support lg doesn't know how to make things without bugs and I don't know if I would go with Sony they are having financial problems maybe try a gpe galaxy s4 stock android easy bootloader unlock and easy to root and you get the latest from Google pretty quickly
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I cant get S4 GPE in Poland, also S4 wakeup time is unacceptable for me.

spinninbsod said:
The lg g2 is the same hardware as the nexus 5 and it has worse support lg doesn't know how to make things without bugs and I don't know if I would go with Sony they are having financial problems maybe try a gpe galaxy s4 stock android easy bootloader unlock and easy to root and you get the latest from Google pretty quickly
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What a bunch of crap, of all the brands I've used LG has been the best after the nexus line
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This is my opinion it may be a bunch of crap from your point of view I'm just saying that although my galaxy s4 was a knoxed down piece of crap Samsung actually knows how to make things work properly I do not agree with Samsung's lock down everything so I switched to the g2 I have never had such a buggy experience on a stock ROM
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If I were you I would wait for the HTC m8 looks like it might have nice hardware and hopefully it will be rootable who knows I've heard nexus 5 battery life not very good it must be software my g2 gets 2 days with mild to lite usage but if you get a g2 it might not be rootable depends whether it comes with kitkat but but you may not want to root
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I have two days to decide What do you mean by saying "unrootable"? Do LG G2 with KK have locked bootloader / recovery or it's just a matter of time?

mnickkk said:
I have two days to decide What do you mean by saying "unrootable"? Do LG G2 with KK have locked bootloader / recovery or it's just a matter of time?
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I believe LG G2 has a locked bootloader and the KK update just patched something that allowed us to install a custom recovery.

spinninbsod said:
The lg g2 is the same hardware as the nexus 5 and it has worse support lg doesn't know how to make things without bugs and I don't know if I would go with Sony they are having financial problems maybe try a gpe galaxy s4 stock android easy bootloader unlock and easy to root and you get the latest from Google pretty quickly
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admit that LG is worst updater in software ever but if u look Z1`s lags (in main launcher, broswer (Chrome is perfect) but games has no lag ofc) which i`v seen, ull say LG is heaven

mnickkk said:
I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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I've actually found that the internal memory on the G2 is incredibly fast. Especially if you flash roms/kernels. It flashes so fast that the first time I flashed a big rom like rooted stock (1.7GB zip size) that I thought something went wrong and it failed. Install furnace kernel and set the readahead to 1MB and I doubt you'll see faster nand flash memory in any other phone out there.
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mnickkk said:
I love the pure Google experience but internal memory and battery capacity of Nexus 5 is just killing me. I would go for G2, but I heard it struggles with poor internal memory performance. Can anyone confirm it with KK onboard? My N5 is .84 rw. Which one has better community support? I would probably flash cm/omni. And Im considering 16GB Z1 vs 32GB G2. I like the feeling of N5, and that's why Im a bit scared of Z1 huge frame, but stable and fully functional pure Google is the most important for me.
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I think you must buy G2 if you feeling of N5. Anyway, Z1 is good looking but if you want to buy Z1 wait for Z2

LG G2 questions of an GS3 guy

Hey guys,
I currently have an I9300 (A.K.A Galaxy S3) and thinking about upgrade to G2. I'm not looking for a advice on this thread but some info. Been on my GS3 since 1,5 years now and I rather know all the pros and cons of my device.
One of them is our Exynos chip that literally kills the device when using AOSP, second one is broken HW composer due the lack of closed source stuff of Samsung. Last but not least is the camera quality, vastly better on stock Touchwiz roms.
Knowing this stuff I have the following questions regarding G2;
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
I am running away from the abusive closed source policy of Samsung and limited updates (I know is the same with LG but at least you guys don't have an Exynos chip to deal with :silly
Will I be able reach the full of G2 capacity staying at AOSP or it is going to be the same as it happens with my S3?. Am I going to be cursed to stay at stock Android until LG stop supporting the device? Will I be at home with a G2 or should look for a fugly Nexus 5 instead?
Posting this thing on General becouse it could help guys with the same doubts as I do. Hope you don't mind this big wall text.
Kind regards!

beeeto said:
Hey guys,
I currently have an I9300 (A.K.A Galaxy S3) and thinking about upgrade to G2. I'm not looking for a advice on this thread but some info. Been on my GS3 since 1,5 years now and I rather know all the pros and cons of my device.
One of them is our Exynos chip that literally kills the device when using AOSP, second one is broken HW composer due the lack of closed source stuff of Samsung. Last but not least is the camera quality, vastly better on stock Touchwiz roms.
Knowing this stuff I have the following questions regarding G2;
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
I am running away from the abusive closed source policy of Samsung and limited updates (I know is the same with LG but at least you guys don't have an Exynos chip to deal with :silly
Will I be able reach the full of G2 capacity staying at AOSP or it is going to be the same as it happens with my S3?. Am I going to be cursed to stay at stock Android until LG stop supporting the device? Will I be at home with a G2 or should look for a fugly Nexus 5 instead?
Posting this thing on General becouse it could help guys with the same doubts as I do. Hope you don't mind this big wall text.
Kind regards!
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1. AOSP works fine, you have bucketloads of ROMs out there for the G2 (check Original Development forum).
2. Camera is perfectly fine on both stock and AOSP. Haven't read about any issues.
But seriously, stock ROM + Xposed. You don't need much more than that.

beeeto said:
Hey guys,
I currently have an I9300 (A.K.A Galaxy S3) and thinking about upgrade to G2. I'm not looking for a advice on this thread but some info. Been on my GS3 since 1,5 years now and I rather know all the pros and cons of my device.
One of them is our Exynos chip that literally kills the device when using AOSP, second one is broken HW composer due the lack of closed source stuff of Samsung. Last but not least is the camera quality, vastly better on stock Touchwiz roms.
Knowing this stuff I have the following questions regarding G2;
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
I am running away from the abusive closed source policy of Samsung and limited updates (I know is the same with LG but at least you guys don't have an Exynos chip to deal with :silly
Will I be able reach the full of G2 capacity staying at AOSP or it is going to be the same as it happens with my S3?. Am I going to be cursed to stay at stock Android until LG stop supporting the device? Will I be at home with a G2 or should look for a fugly Nexus 5 instead?
Posting this thing on General becouse it could help guys with the same doubts as I do. Hope you don't mind this big wall text.
Kind regards!
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Before G2 I had S3 and Note2 and since both of them have same exynos and camera they were pretty similar in AOSP roms.
With S3 I used AOSP 80% of time (cm11 temasek). On note2 I used lame touchwiz because of spen.
Anyway after switching to G2 I flashed AOSP same day I got it (rooting doesn't void warranty in EU). I got G2 in last december and at that time AOSP was still quite buggy. But now AOSP is nearly as stable as stock.
Regarding your questions:
1. As I said AOSP now is fine, but look for rom that uses kitkat kernel source. In my opinion Mahdi ROM is best for AOSP. CM still uses old jellybean kernel sources that has bugs, so I avoid using it. I have been using Mahdi most of the time and there were only few bugs that were fixed quite fast. I agree that stock LG ui looks awful, but with xposed you can make it look nearly like AOSP (quicksettings and stuff). But you should definitely take a look at G3 roms, they are much better looking.
2. Regarding camera quality yes on AOSP it is a little worse, but in my opinion not as big difference from stock as it was on S3. There are ported stock camera app for AOSP if you want to check that out.
When I switched to G2 I was also looking at Nexus 5 since I am kinda flashoholic. But I am really happy that I got G2 not Nexus5. After I switched from S3 to N2 I got used to great battery of it and G2 has even better battery life than Note2. Plus thoose buttons on back are just the way they should be on all phones.
Anyway hope I helped you with this information.

Orvils said:
Before G2 I had S3 and Note2 and since both of them have same exynos and camera they were pretty similar in AOSP roms.
With S3 I used AOSP 80% of time (cm11 temasek). On note2 I used lame touchwiz because of spen.
Anyway after switching to G2 I flashed AOSP same day I got it (rooting doesn't void warranty in EU). I got G2 in last december and at that time AOSP was still quite buggy. But now AOSP is nearly as stable as stock.
Regarding your questions:
1. As I said AOSP now is fine, but look for rom that uses kitkat kernel source. In my opinion Mahdi ROM is best for AOSP. CM still uses old jellybean kernel sources that has bugs, so I avoid using it. I have been using Mahdi most of the time and there were only few bugs that were fixed quite fast. I agree that stock LG ui looks awful, but with xposed you can make it look nearly like AOSP (quicksettings and stuff). But you should definitely take a look at G3 roms, they are much better looking.
2. Regarding camera quality yes on AOSP it is a little worse, but in my opinion not as big difference from stock as it was on S3. There are ported stock camera app for AOSP if you want to check that out.
When I switched to G2 I was also looking at Nexus 5 since I am kinda flashoholic. But I am really happy that I got G2 not Nexus5. After I switched from S3 to N2 I got used to great battery of it and G2 has even better battery life than Note2. Plus thoose buttons on back are just the way they should be on all phones.
Anyway hope I helped you with this information.
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Oh boy, your words are like a gold mine! Exactly what I was looking for.
My G2 is officially ordered. Hope I'll be joining this part of XDA really soon and say good bye my old fellows I9300 users. Im sure here I'll feel at home :fingers-crossed:.
Have a little couple of questions, they are a little specific so couldn't find precise info. Hope you guys can direct me a little.
1.- You surely know that the most famous Kernel on the i9300 is Boeffla, it has own app to control voltages, sound control, overclock, etc. What is the G2 counter part? (I know Kernels are subjective but want to know where to start )
2.- What are the most used OC arround here for the CPU? (On the i9300 was 1.6Ghz)
I'm going to be wondering arround here a lot, so I hope don't get bashed for these questions, they are my base when starting to use a new device. (Yesterday spent 2 hours browsing ROM's and other threads, haha)
Thank you again!

beeeto said:
Oh boy, your words are like a gold mine! Exactly what I was looking for.
My G2 is officially ordered. Hope I'll be joining this part of XDA really soon and say good bye my old fellows I9300 users. Im sure here I'll feel at home :fingers-crossed:.
Have a little couple of questions, they are a little specific so couldn't find precise info. Hope you guys can direct me a little.
1.- You surely know that the most famous Kernel on the i9300 is Boeffla, it has own app to control voltages, sound control, overclock, etc. What is the G2 counter part? (I know Kernels are subjective but want to know where to start )
2.- What are the most used OC arround here for the CPU? (On the i9300 was 1.6Ghz)
I'm going to be wondering arround here a lot, so I hope don't get bashed for these questions, they are my base when starting to use a new device. (Yesterday spent 2 hours browsing ROM's and other threads, haha)
Thank you again!
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1. Well for stock roms there is dorimanx kernel. It has faux sound, overclock, undervolt, etc.
2. With dorimanx you can overclock up to max 2.8 GHz.
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beeeto said:
1.- G2 uses Snapdragon, so on paper AOSP Roms should work fine (or not as bad as it is on Exynos). Is this really true? How does perform CM11 right now on the G2? I'm planning to stick always with CM or AOSP becouse can't stand stock LG skinned Android. On my S3 I am currently rolling CM11 and it is pretty OK due the great devs we have there. But you guys know, we always want something better
2.- Been reading a lot about the camera on the G2 and all threads say the same, camera quality on Stock is much better than AOSP. The question is; Is this difference big as on the GS3?
Kind regards!
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s3's camera doesnt even come close to the cam on the g2 ! the quality is unbelievable. just note that night shots do get distorted when its very very dark ! but that happens on all phone cameras so its fine
oh and also cm11 rom doesnt support UHD and 120 FPS slowmo addons i bought this cus of the camera features n battery backup. i cant let it just go

Orvils said:
Before G2 I had S3 and Note2 and since both of them have same exynos and camera they were pretty similar in AOSP roms.
With S3 I used AOSP 80% of time (cm11 temasek). On note2 I used lame touchwiz because of spen.
Anyway after switching to G2 I flashed AOSP same day I got it (rooting doesn't void warranty in EU). I got G2 in last december and at that time AOSP was still quite buggy. But now AOSP is nearly as stable as stock.
Regarding your questions:
1. As I said AOSP now is fine, but look for rom that uses kitkat kernel source. In my opinion Mahdi ROM is best for AOSP. CM still uses old jellybean kernel sources that has bugs, so I avoid using it. I have been using Mahdi most of the time and there were only few bugs that were fixed quite fast. I agree that stock LG ui looks awful, but with xposed you can make it look nearly like AOSP (quicksettings and stuff). But you should definitely take a look at G3 roms, they are much better looking.
2. Regarding camera quality yes on AOSP it is a little worse, but in my opinion not as big difference from stock as it was on S3. There are ported stock camera app for AOSP if you want to check that out.
When I switched to G2 I was also looking at Nexus 5 since I am kinda flashoholic. But I am really happy that I got G2 not Nexus5. After I switched from S3 to N2 I got used to great battery of it and G2 has even better battery life than Note2. Plus thoose buttons on back are just the way they should be on all phones.
Anyway hope I helped you with this information.
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Where did you hear that rooting doesn't void warranty on Europe?
Are you completely 100% sure?
Cause I'm very interested in knowing if this is true.
Only rooting or also installing roms? Installing roms and custom recoveries doesn't void the warranty?
Thanks!!

My G2 is awesome. I keep it running stock ROM because I love what LG has done. If you've never tried it before, give it a chance before moving to CM 11. I have Nova installed and using that instead of LG launcher but other than that I really do enjoy all the features that come from LG =).
I compared my phone to a Nexus 5 side by side and it was pretty much the same speed to open apps (Except Viber, it was faster on N5, no idea why..). It's a very smooth phone, even when running LG UI .
My brother has the S3 and it's a good smooth phone but my G2 is an overall better phone.
You won't regret upgrading to it. Just make sure you get one without a touchscreen bug. I was lucky when I bought mine from someone else, it didn't have the touchscreen bug and still does not.
Camera is not the best and I'm considering trading for an S5 or Z2 just for that reason. I would actually go for the Find 7 but a bit too expensive and big. I prefer the camera on the S4 (I had that phone prior to the G2 and I also had the S4 Zoom). The S4 Zoom was the best one with awesome night shots since you can control shutter speed. Sadly we can't control shutter speed on G2 (on Oppo Find 7 we can and K zoom also). Day shots are good on G2 while some shots can really look awesome. It does bokeh effect better than the S4 and looks spectacular for a phone.
Low light shots can be either ok or bad. Too much over-processing going on and white balance isn't the best. I still love my LG G2 though!
I am using xdabbeb's camera mod, by the way, which I suggest you do also if you get the phone.

Nevermind, figured out by my self, thank you!

Bloody G3 - I need to rant

I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
I have tried just about all the LG based ROMS, only to find that each one, although not buggy, are all laggy. The lag is so bad that it gives my old S2 on Gingerbread a run for its money. At least with Samsung phones, you could get rid of the lag by using a AOSP ROM and it would still be functional.
To solve the frustrating lag issue, I have installed a CM based ROM. At first I was delighted. The lag was gone. The phone was now comparable to my super fast Nexus 5. But after a few hours, I noticed the same bugs that every other CM based ROM user has. Today, I had to restart the phone six times FFS! It is a little more stable on 777 Kernel, but the same issues still persist.
Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
Don't get me wrong, I love devs and the work they do. Without them, my old Galaxy phones, (S1, S2, S3, S4), would have been poo. My Nexus 5 would have been boring. (Stock android is meh). I just don't understand why this phone seems to have so many issues. Help me understand why it is so hard to develop a fast and reliable ROM for this phone. I know it isn't from a lack of trying. There is heaps of support and devs working on various ROMS in the G3 threads already and all of them are very talented.
Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
Thanks for reading and offering any solutions. I don't want to list the ROMS I have tried, as it will seem like I am an ungrateful twat to those devs that worked so hard. Suffice to say, I have tried all the popular CM/AOSP and LG based ROMS.

Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]

I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-

hashcheck said:
I switched to note 4 whilst g3 was good I had a better experience with my note 3. So upgraded
-= Note 4 & Gear VR =-
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I don't want to switch so soon. There has to be a solution. I love the screen and size of this phone. The only other phone I would consider is the droid turbo, but it's so bloody expensive!

DoobyDroid said:
Stock 5.0 V20H fine for me no lag [emoji3]
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Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.

cubic25 said:
Compared to what? Which other android phone have you used? In isolation, this phone is barely acceptable. Then, after you use a nexus, HTC or Sony phone, this phone is comparably slow. Almost unusable.
I can't bring myself to try stock again until someone who has other phones to base their claims on can confirm it is lag free.
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Have you tried the usual tricks?
1. Swap out the stock launcher for something like Nova or Apex
2. Switch your keyboard to a 3rd party keyboard
While it does suffer from the random stutter, my phone is generally very zippy and does not lag.

Done all that. On stock based ROMS, stutter and lag is unbearable. My wife, nexus 5 user, even commented on how bad it is. I'm actually embarrassed to use the phone in front of people. I know it isn't a hardware issue, because AOSP ROMS are lag free, but not bug free.

Yeah, the phone is nowhere near as quick as a Nexus. The notification bar is also **** compared to stock Lollipop. There are a few tricks I use to improve performance on a stock rom:
1) Turn off throttling/thermal daemon via the service menu.
2) I use setCPU to set the phone to use the "performance" scheduler whenever the screen is on, locking it at 2.5Ghz.
Still isn't perfect, but it helps substantially. Obviously this is in addition to changing the launcher.
It's just one of those things. As you say, CM12 just isn't stable and worryingly seems to be going backwards, getting less and less stable with each passing nightly. The camera is also completely crap on AOSP roms. Nexus devices are great but the N5 is old and the N6 is too big and expensive. The S5 lags too, and while Note 4 is supposed to be good, but I simply won't believe that Touchwiz lag is gone without seeing it with my own eyes. Even if it has gone, Touchwiz remains the ugliest skin I've ever seen. Sony phones are nice, but they aren't packaged anywhere near as tightly as the G3, which is it's biggest strength: 22mm shorter than an iPhone 6+, with the same size screen. That's impressive. HTC's are just ridiculously large for a given screen size. The 1+1 is old now, and doesn't support all LTE bands used in the UK.
There is no perfect phone. Whichever you choose, there are compromises to be made. However IMHO the G3 strikes the best compromise available today, at least once running the latest Lollipop build and with the tweaks I mentioned above applied.

Had most 2014 flagships and G3 is deff fav so far, didnt have KK as updated to LP out the box had little lag after ota but common just needed a factory reset and all good since

Just a tip you can use on any android phone, go to settings, developer options, and set all the animations to 0.5x. This drastically reduces the time the animations take, and it gives a very snappy experience. It makes a LOT of difference, trust me.

No lag whatsoever here. Im running Chupachups newest rom with rin kernel. I've previously owned htc one, lg g2, xperia z1 and this phone definitely outperforms them all.

Ive owned the Xperia Z1, HTC One M7, and tbh id rate this better than both, i would like the battery life to be better my Z1 was amazing for that buh im custom stock rom and i dont get lag, everything is as it should be.

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I know this is going to sound very much like a first world problem, but this phone is frustratingly ****. It is easily the buggiest, slowest, most laggy phone I have ever had.
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Has anyone achieved bliss with this phone? Is there any ROMS, AOSP or LG based, that are fast, (Nexus 5 fast), and bug free?
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Is it hardware based lag or is there something else inherently wrong with the phone?
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Because LL is still unstable and buggy? And so is any rom based on it?..
Stock firmware sucks because of LG's software - it's very badly written. Almost as bad as touchwiz is. (I used SGS3, trust me on that one...)
AOSP/CM based firmwares are better, but they still suffer due do LL newness. Wait till android 5.1, things may become better.
There is also a hardware issue: unbelievably bad heat management. They used 8974ac, but had not made any cooling system. No radiators, no heat spread throughout the case, and it's facing LCD panel - which is a very bad radiator. GG WP, throttling kick in, phone starts to lag, etc etc etc.

I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.

Hi im all so on lollipop 5.0 updated out of the box and its all good maybe some lag not much to notice. Still no root method yet for stock lollipop 5.0 and i dont want to downgrade to kk so il have patience and wait for new root method for me g3

Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.

mab71 said:
I think there may be problem with your unit... Try to send it back to get a replacement or have it serviced.
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Can't be an issue with the phone, as it is lag free with CM based ROMS.
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I agree that most of the stock LG-G3 roms, Lollipop/Kitkat, if not rooted and without any mods, LAG is unavoidable. The case is, some people can't root their phones and most of them will try searching why G3 stock rom is lagging... if I'm one of them and I happen to see this post, I would feel bad and feel stupid at the same time why I spend money buying a crappy phone.
Well anyways, try Crash Rom v2.0. It is a stock based ROM like chupachups. The animation is not as fluid as CM but I won't say that it's lagging. Compared to CM, I have not yet encountered any bugs and mostly the camera is better. If you're interested you can also downgrade the resolution to 1080p, this will enhance your g3, 3d and 2d graphics performance.
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I'll give crash a go this afternoon and report back. Hopefully 5.1 ROMS fix the issue too.
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Wow, I went from the nexus 5, to the htc m8, to the g3 all in year. My advice, play with this one to get the phone lag gone. This by far is the best. Like a previous person said, turn off animations and change the launcher.
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Already done all that. Animations are turned off, launcher animations are set to lightning fast, CPU throttling is turned off. I've tried all the tricks in the book. Fact is, LG based software is crap, just like Samsung.
So far today, the lock-screen has only frozen on me four times, which is good.
I'm not sure if I'd rather put up with a laggy phone or a buggy phone.

My phone is currently on V20h. Apart from the occasional Home launcher crash, I've not had any lag that I notice of. The last time there was any lag was on V10i. My phone is rooted but is not running any mods.
Prior to this, I've had the Note 3 and Xperia S. Compared to the G3, I would say that the smoothness is at the very least, on par with the Note 3 running on stock.
I've seen people complaining about the G3 being laggy too. Is your phone by any chance the 2 GB RAM version?

My phone is the 2gb version, but I always have at least close to 300mb free. Sometimes I have over 1gb free. Not that it should matter though, as I have read on numerous places that the 3gb version lags too, and that both phones are very close on performance. The extra 1gb of RAM is negligible.
Just flashing Crash ROM now. I think I'm going to regret it though, as I much prefer the look of AOSP anyway.
Ah crap. Just as I flash the ROM, I read that the dev is stopping support for our device. Based on the comments, it looks like a promising ROM.

Is Cm12 Bug Free On Lg G2?

Hi everybody. I was planning to replace my Nexsu 4 with an LG G2, and since I really like the pure android I will be (probably!) flashing CM on it. Now I am new to this world so please be gentle with me I want to know a few things:
1) Is the UI on LG G2 sluggish and slow? especially after installing apps?
2) Is the stable version of CM for LG G2 (I guess it is CM12 right now) bug free? (I have heard stories about battery drain and stuff with CM12).
3) Is the stock Lollipop stable? Do you recommend I upgrade OTA from KK to LP?
Thanks!

I came from Nexus 4 to G2 6 months ago.
1) LG UI is fast on 4.4.2, and about 20% slower (MY opinion) on 5.0.2 because 5.0.2 sucks :/ (5.0.2 was slow on my old Nexus 4)
2) CM is not 100% stable, if i recall correctly there are minor bugs that occur from time to time, lag in Google Play Music, DT2W works a bit worse than LG roms, also Camera is a bit worse than LG rom
3) Stock Lollipop is stable, you can OTA if your network carrier has the update (if not you will have to use LG PC Suite or flash KDZ image)
If you REALLY need stock Android you should get Nexus 5. I chose G2 because I was so mad after having Nexus 4 camera and audio playback quality, i simply refused to get Nexus 5. G2 has amazing sound (HD sound driver) especially if you have 50EUR+ headphones and a great camera
Also its questionable when and will G2 get official 5.1.1 or 6.0, the G3 only 2-3 weeks ago got 5.1.1

Thanks a lot! You answered all my question. Let me ask you a few more since you are the right person First of all, my Nexus 4 is amazing and works perfectly. My only complain (just like you) would be the camera (I only listen to audiobooks, so audio quality is not really an issue for me). Also I thought the battery on the G2 is above average (correct me if I am wrong).
1) How would you compare the G2 UI (4.4.2) with Nexus 4 (on 5.1.1)? Is it the same speed or you feel a lag?
2) When you say camera on CM12 is not as good as stock rom, do you mean the camera features? cause I know that the G2 camera has many features. Or you mean like the image quality with the same settings on the stock is better that CM?
3) In general, if you would choose again, now that you know how is the quality of Nexus 5, would you choose it against G2?
I was thinking of getting the N5 too, but the camera and the battery life on the G2 are tempting honestly. I am ok with 4.4.2 and I will stay on that if I think it performs better than 5.0.2. I think I will avoid CM though since I am afraid the headache does not worth it for me.

UI of G2 is not slow, it is pretty fast also on Lollipop. Only issue with official lollipop is memory leak.. You have to restart your device every day or you will suffer from launcher redraws.
Battery life on CM is worse than on stock. Also quality of photos is lower + G2 doesnt support Camera2 API so you don't have any advanced camera features on CM.
LG G2 offers GREAT performance for price, it has much better hardware than Nexus 5 but I still prefer Nexus 5 because of the software.

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Thanks a lot! You answered all my question. Let me ask you a few more since you are the right person First of all, my Nexus 4 is amazing and works perfectly. My only complain (just like you) would be the camera (I only listen to audiobooks, so audio quality is not really an issue for me). Also I thought the battery on the G2 is above average (correct me if I am wrong).
1) How would you compare the G2 UI (4.4.2) with Nexus 4 (on 5.1.1)? Is it the same speed or you feel a lag?
2) When you say camera on CM12 is not as good as stock rom, do you mean the camera features? cause I know that the G2 camera has many features. Or you mean like the image quality with the same settings on the stock is better that CM?
3) In general, if you would choose again, now that you know how is the quality of Nexus 5, would you choose it against G2?
I was thinking of getting the N5 too, but the camera and the battery life on the G2 are tempting honestly. I am ok with 4.4.2 and I will stay on that if I think it performs better than 5.0.2. I think I will avoid CM though since I am afraid the headache does not worth it for me.
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1) G2 UI (4.4.2) is as fast as Nexus 4 on 5.1.1. However, G2 UI at 4.4.2 has no material design. You can check it on youtube
2) The latest CM12.1 (not CM12) has a better camera, but yeah less features, and the pics are sometimes blurry (15% chance).
3) Ahh, I don't know, i really want 6.0 from Nexus 5, but N5 has a worse screen, only 2300mah, 8mp camera......i would get a G2, but this time in black color

Thank you guys! I will keep an eye on both G2 and N5. If G2 gets the update to 5.1.1 or 6.0 I will definitely go for it. If not, I have to decide which one to go, G2 or N5.