What would you like to see in the next Moto flagship? - Moto X General

I love my Moto X but I'm also very excited about the future of Motorola and their flagship phones. What are some things you'd like to see in the 2014 Moto superphone?
Here are some things I'd like to see:
Lower unlocked price ($400-$500)
Bootloaders unlockable for all variants
3GB ram
32GB standard, 64 & 128 optional
Faster processor
Advanced/Developer options for Active Display, Touchless Control, Connect
Fully custom color options for MotoMaker
What would you like to see?

All I want is a bigger battery. Moto X battery is the best I've seen so far and having even more would be perfect.
I came from a Galaxy S4 with 2600mAh of battery and I never got past 3h screen time whereas on the Moto X (with 2100mAh) I got 5h in the first day.
As for the rest, Motorola proved that specs are nothing if you don't optimize the system. Bigger storage would be nice though.

A better camera.
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A better camera.
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My biggest beef with the Moto X

A top of the line camera and wireless charging would be nice.
But what I really expect is something new, that others don't have like active notification and touchless control. I hope Motorola comes up with something even better.
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Slightly larger screen, better camera, and lower price if they stay with midrange specs
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I wanna see them keep the same form factor. With a better screen, easier to unlock boot loader and even better battery life.
For me s 720p AMOLED screen is the perfect compromise for a mobile device

MaKTaiL said:
All I want is a bigger battery. Moto X battery is the best I've seen so far and having even more would be perfect.
I came from a Galaxy S4 with 2600mAh of battery and I never got past 3h screen time whereas on the Moto X (with 2100mAh) I got 5h in the first day.
As for the rest, Motorola proved that specs are nothing if you don't optimize the system. Bigger storage would be nice though.
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You just described the new droid maxx.
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I don't care for specs. I would like better battery life, possibly removable. That's pretty much. MicroSD tray is a bonus. I'm a bit iffy on the placement of the mic. On the plus side, I do like where it's placed cause I'm assured regardless of case-choice or angle that the mic is close to my mouth. However when I can't help but feel that the opening leaves for weakness.

To you guys that want a bigger screen, have you tried LMT Launcher?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1330150
I use it on my gnex. I have the pie enabled on both left and right sides, activation length set to 688 and thickness set to 20. Pie gravity is set to top so that the activation area ends before it reaches the top of the keyboard in portrait mode.
I have found it to be extremely handy and have used it for almost 2 years. It gives you extra screen space by allowing you to disable the navigation bar, and it allows for easier one-handed use.

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A better camera.
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Agreed. I'd like a better, or at least more consistent, camera especially in low light situations. I've taken some nice pix with my X, but also some pretty crappy ones. Most of the time in low light its hit/miss as to what I'll get, even when taking two or three pictures in a row.
I would also like to see Moto Assist match all the features of Moto's smart actions, including more profiles and options to create your own.
While battery life on my X has been very good, Increasing its size or how long it lasts would always be a plus.
As others have suggested, I hope it can keep the same form factor. The X feels perfect in my hand. While some of the cases I've put it in make it feel a little bigger, it still feels great.

Movable Nav buttons like the G2 and three size settings for nav bar height to, 100%, 50% and 25%.

Maybe their next big thing should be software customization. Let you customize the colors, and theme of the os?
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Agreed on a better low light camera. I love this phone but the quality of some photos are very average at times.

Even more software optimization, a REAL better camera, DEVELOPER FRIENDLY (easiest as sammy's devices), and wireless charging.
That's the only need of this amazing phone.

d14gvn said:
Even more software optimization, a REAL better camera, DEVELOPER FRIENDLY (easiest as sammy's devices), and wireless charging.
That's the only need of this amazing phone.
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Can you elaborate more on 'developer friendly'? Unless you're on AT&T or Verizon, it's as easy as it gets to unlock the bootloader. The kernel source code is already available to us and it's been fun playing with it(although failing hard...lol).

Personally I'd prefer a 5 inch screen and an OMAP chip set. I am really hoping Google snatches up that division of TI in the worst way
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I'd like 32gb to be standard and wireless charging. Other than that this thing is perfect for me.
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Personally Id a bigger screen and the lastest GPU.

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MOTO X +1?

http://9to5google.com/2014/04/06/moto-x-plus-one-coming-soon/
So color me intrigued! Anyone else wondering when and what the MOTO X +1 will entail?
AndreaCristiano said:
http://9to5google.com/2014/04/06/moto-x-plus-one-coming-soon/
So color me intrigued! Anyone else wondering when and what the MOTO X +1 will entail?
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I just hope they don't increase the screen size or dramatically alter the shape of it. If it has an identical body with nothing more than a spec bump I'll be THRILLED. 1080p amoled screen, faster processor, and 64gb storage but keep everything else the same and I will buy one the moment it drops. No need to mess with perfection.
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I just hope they don't increase the screen size or dramatically alter the shape of it. If it has an identical body with nothing more than a spec bump I'll be THRILLED. 1080p amoled screen, faster processor, and 64gb storage but keep everything else the same and I will buy one the moment it drops. No need to mess with perfection.
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i agree with this exactly honestly i woulsdnt complain if there was a 5 inch screen but kept the same form factor... more stoked about the moto 360 then this though..
apparently it is going to come in a leather option. https://twitter.com/evleaks/status/452952150302527488
Im just waiting to hear if it's going to be the same size or not. If it's revealed that it will be a bigger phone than the X then I'll spend my money on the current X. I'd be happy if the next X kept the same size with just a camera upgrade. We'll see soon I hope.
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Holy leather macaroni! I need a black front white leather back with silver accents right now!:victory:
I swear I said it yesterday before it came out that it was gonna have a leather option! I also agree if the screen size grows i pray the form factor doesnt. I mean there is space now to remove that can increase the screen and minimilize bezels
If this new Moto X is enticing enough, I'm actually thinking about selling my Dev edition and upgrading. However, this new X will have to seriously wow me, in terms of looks, specs, and price. Has to be all 3 of those, not just 1 or 2.
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If this new Moto X is enticing enough, I'm actually thinking about selling my Dev edition and upgrading. However, this new X will have to seriously wow me, in terms of looks, specs, and price. Has to be all 3 of those, not just 1 or 2.
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one thing that the X "failed" at was competing in the "more is everything" spec war. which is entirely unfortunate given this is easily the best android device i've owned since the original DROID. with that said, i don't want Moto to give in to the spec war. previous articles have mentioned that whatever the X successor will be, it will be a "premium" model.
so far for the X+1, i've seen reports of a 6" screen, which is absolutely and completely a horrible idea. if they shrunk the bezel to "nothing" and kept the form factor, then fine, increase the screen. but the form factor is damn near perfect.
and honestly, i wouldn't care if they kept the most of the same internals, but more RAM, extra storage and wireless charging top my list as things that are a must with the new device. or if they're going to skip wireless charge, a bigger battery.
What to keep:
Active notifications
Touchless control
I don't mind the 720p resolution
Great better life (before 4.4.2)
What to add:
Wireless charging
4.8" to 5" screen but similar form factor.
Bigger battery
Better camera
Better picture/video gallery
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Jamolah said:
What to keep:
Active notifications
Touchless control
I don't mind the 720p resolution
Great better life (before 4.4.2)
What to add:
Wireless charging
4.8" to 5" screen but similar form factor.
Bigger battery
Better camera
Better picture/video gallery
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AKA Droid Maxx
Camera of course--13 mpix at least, but more importantly, some additional settings options, such as shutter speed. Better color balance too.
Go to 32 gB standard, with possible microSD support. Water/dust proofing also a plus; it's a functional feature that doesn't necessarily give in to the spec wars that the X eschewed in the first place.
Screen size increase? Meh. Right now I can work the phone with one hand/thumb. If it gets bigger, then not so much. If they can do something with bezel size and screen real estate with the current body size, then fine.
Screen resolution? If your eyes can't tell the difference, much greater resolution only draws more battery power. As does going quadcore--remember, Moto's own research supposedly showed that even their quadcore competitors' phones didn't use more than two cores at any time.
If they keep to close the current size, then battery capacity isn't likely to grow much, so retaining efficiency is paramount.
Nor do I care about front facing speakers, ala HTC. I don't listen to much music with phone speakers, and the quality is fine for interacting with the phone's TTV engine.
Finally, I am still a skeptic about wireless charging, if only because of the probability that it can heat the battery excessively, killing overall longevity.
Unlike wood, leather backs are not my thing--what's next, chinchilla?
I think the X+1 is not the 2014 X. Maybe it meants 4.7+1 = 5.7in phablet? maybe they have another name for the X?
If they don't change the name it may or may not just be 2014 moto x like the n7 but I doubt it.... Hopefully its not moto x+1 cause that's the stupidest name I've ever heard of
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cartmenicus said:
If they don't change the name it may or may not just be 2014 moto x like the n7 but I doubt it.... Hopefully its not moto x+1 cause that's the stupidest name I've ever heard of
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The leak picture actually sayS +X1. JPNo idea why everyone's stuck to +1
I would be persuaded to upgrade if they added:
Wireless charging
Bigger capacity battery
Better camera
Upgraded specs
Even more waterproofing
I'm hoping they don't change the size or form-factor as it's perfect for me. I don't really care about a leather back as I love the woven back.
Front facing speakers would be ideal; firing your audio away from you on the back of your phone is retarded for watching video.
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-iD said:
Front facing speakers would be ideal; firing your audio away from you on the back of your phone is retarded for watching video.
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give me a SD card slot and I am golden.
x2h said:
give me a SD card slot and I am golden.
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honestly they are becoming extinct and the desire for them wont make that change manufactures want you to buy up for memory why would they want you to buy the cheapest model and allow you to upgrade the memory outside their pockets?
all i know is if they make the phone larger, i am going to have to look for a different phone or stay with this one till it dies. i have had the One, S4, Nexus 5 and pretty much any high end device in recent years and one of the main reason i love my X is due to its size.

Nexus 5 to Moto X

After having issues with the N5's very poor call quality as well as sending double texts to my recipients. 10 replacements later and I've decided to switch to a Moto X.
Specs wise, I wouldn't say it's an upgrade from the Nexus 5 but not a downgrade either.
The O/S is nice and clean with just a few useful features added by Motorola.
Absolutely loving the Active Notifications, Motorola Connect (text from my Chrome), Motorola Assist etc. They're so useful.
Best feature is the voice recognition. It's so accurate it's scary lol. Much more accurate than the Nexus 5.
Best of all, call quality is superb!
The screen is smaller but my thumb used to often struggle to reach certain parts of the Nexus 5 screen which I don't have to worry about any more. I think it's a good balance between size and comfort.
The speaker is miles louder than the one in my N5. Massive difference!!
The phone feels fluid as the N5.
There's only one area I've noticed any slowness so far. That's in restoring my 16000+ text messages using SMS Backup & Restore. It took a fair bit longer than my N5 did. Not a big deal though as only needed to do it once.
I've got a usable phone and some money in my pocket on top. Can't complain.
Oh that Motorola Migrate feature didn't work for me when I tried it. Only tried it once though.
Most of my stuff is in the cloud anyway.
I do miss the wireless charging though but it's a loss I was willing to take as the Moto X benefits far outweigh the need to move away from the N5.
There should not be any difference in voice recognition as both phones rely on Google for that. I haven't noticed any difference between the two. ( Moto X is slightly better at picking up voice in noisy environment from little more distance. That's about it. Might have something to do with microphone quality. But when nexus 5 is held close, they're is virtually no difference in accuracy)
But yeah, Other than more consistent camera on nexus 5 after the update, I would take Moto X over nexus 5 any given day. In fact I came from Nexus 5 to moto x. I never really had any of the voice quality issues on nexus 5 either but overall I like the feel of Moto X. And love the active notifications.
From my Moto X, in your face!
I'm so tempted to get a nexus =( my flashing habits are going crazy with all those non-existent roms for my X
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I'm so tempted to get a nexus =( my flashing habits are going crazy with all those non-existent roms for my X
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When friends and family see mine and my wife's phones (me n5 now, her moto x) and they ask if I recommend them, my advice is always the same.
Moto x if you just want a great and smooth phone.
N5 if they are techy and may want to mess with the phone.
Thats my standard advice. They are both great phones....but for the non techy, the moto x is definitely the best choice. ?
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Battery life is better on the moto x by miles.
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Battery life is better on the moto x by miles.
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For the "everything on" people perhaps you are right....not miles though...but the x is probably a bit better.
But...I have both, and both get over 24 hours on a charge, and both can get over 6 hours screen time. With most things off of course. And greenified, and screen not too bright. I guess the x is slightly better on average for me...but only slightly. Oh...and I rarely use the "phone"....I'm a texter. ?
If set up for maximum battery life...both are excellent. But many want everything on....so they will lose more battery for sure. Much more.
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I am loving Motorola Connect, it is so convenient. It is going to take some fantastic phone to get me to change from my MotoX Dev Edition.
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I previously had a developer edition moto x one of the first on here to get one and then I bought into the nexus 5 hype and am back to a moto X. It is an all around better phone than the N5. No its ands or butts. Also to concur with the previous poster the voice recognition is better on the X because of the dedicated speech engine. The X has the perfect ergonomics just as fluid and fast, screen is actually better inho and the speaker is miles better. I get just as good pica from my X than the supposedly better n5. The only thing the N5 camera truly has on it is the OIS. Lastly motos extras are worth the price of admission all by themselves.
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I am loving Motorola Connect, it is so convenient. It is going to take some fantastic phone to get me to change from my MotoX Dev Edition.
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I love this feature too especially when at work as it stops me fiddling around with my phone which can make others around me think I'm never off it.
This way I can discreetly reply to contacts and keep tabs of phone calls
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I love this feature too especially when at work as it stops me fiddling around with my phone which can make others around me think I'm never off it.
This way I can discreetly reply to contacts and keep tabs of phone calls
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I compared the speaker quality with my partners HTC 8X (which comes with Beats Audio) and mine actually sounds like it has a slightly higher frequency making treble sound like it's going to pop out. Very clear! The volume is just as loud as hers.
I unwillingly came from a N5 by dropping it and shattering the screen. Had been eyeing the moto x for a bit and decided to pick a like-new condition used one for cheap. Boy am I glad that I did. On paper everyone knocks it, but in actuality it's probably the best android phone I have ever used out of the box. No stock experience is as good, and this is my 7th android phone since 2009. Voice recognition is better hands down because of the dedicated processor. Active display is by far one of the best features out of any android device today. Form factor is excellent (N5 was good but ever so slightly too big for me), voice quality is better (both on speaker and off).
Battery life on STOCK Moto X is as good as my N5 was when I was rooted, underclocking, undervolting, except I have everything turned on (location, auto brightness, touchless controls, active display, etc. etc.).
I just (unwillingly) landed a moto x after living the luxury of lg's g2, and sadly I am extremely let down.
I had high hopes for the moto x, and don't get me wrong, for the average user not wanting to spend much on a phone, the moto x is a great choice, and has a lot less manufacturer and carrier bloat than much of its competition, but stacked next to the g2 I feel like I'm being punished.
I won't go to much into screen size because a lot of that is user preference, but personally I always thought that phablet sized phone were too much (and still do). The g2 still felt natural even with its larger size, where I find the moto x uncomfortable.
The moto x stock camera is actually pretty nice. My g2 was running cyanogenmod and the camera was slow as hell, but still took good pictures, the moto x is much faster.
Battery life is upsetting on the moto x compared to the g2. My g2 could survive 2 days of heavy use with everything on and just start entering the 15% low battery range. The moto x hardly makes it through one day (with most of the carrier/manufacturer boat apps disabled).
The screen color and brightness on the moto x are annoyingly over saturated. The amoled obviously isn't doing the battery and favors, so I'm pretty sold on the true IPS offered in the g2 as superior for battery and for display performance (and in not taking about resolution difference).
The microphone for calls on the moto x hardly picks my voice up (no issues on the g2)
The rear speaker on the moto x is actually louder and more clear than the g2, so that's nice.
But then the last nail in the coffin for me was the headphone quality. The g2 without modification has roughly the same volume output as the moto x, but the audio quality on the moto x is a joke. To make matters worse, if you use an auxiliary input in your car and plug the phone into a car charger while paying music and then unplug the car charger mid song you'll hear a pretty ridiculous difference in audio quality. It's as if the phone refuses to put any effort into making audio sound decent unless it's charging. And no this isn't a grounding issue, it's actually the phone putting less power towards the audio output when it's not charging, and it really kills the sound unless it's plugged in.
Anyway, as soon as I'm able to jump ship I'm headed back to LG land and probably not going to visit MOTOville again for a LONG time.
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iXNyNe said:
I just (unwillingly) landed a moto x after living the luxury of lg's g2, and sadly I am extremely let down.
I had high hopes for the moto x, and don't get me wrong, for the average user not wanting to spend much on a phone, the moto x is a great choice, and has a lot less manufacturer and carrier bloat than much of its competition, but stacked next to the g2 I feel like I'm being punished.
I won't go to much into screen size because a lot of that is user preference, but personally I always thought that phablet sized phone were too much (and still do). The g2 still felt natural even with its larger size, where I find the moto x uncomfortable.
The moto x stock camera is actually pretty nice. My g2 was running cyanogenmod and the camera was slow as hell, but so took good pictures, the moto x is much faster.
Battery life is upsetting on the moto x compared to the g2. My g2 could survive 2 days of heavy use with everything on and just start entering the 15% low battery range. The moto x hardly makes it through one day (with most of the carrier/manufacturer boat apps disabled).
The screen color and brightness on the moto x are annoyingly over saturated. The amoled obviously isn't doing the battery and favors, so I'm pretty sold on the true IPS offered in the g2 as superior for battery and for display performance (and in not taking about resolution difference).
The microphone for calls on the moto x hardly picks my voice up (no issues on the g2)
The rear speaker on the moto x is actually louder and more clear than the g2, so that's nice.
But then the last nail in the coffin for me was the headphone quality. The g2 without modification has roughly the same volume output as the moto x, but the audio quality on the moto x is a joke. To make matters worse, if you use an auxiliary input in your car and plug the phone into a car charger while paying music and then unplug the car charger mid song you'll hear a pretty ridiculous difference in audio quality. It's as if the phone refuses to put any effort into making audio sound decent unless it's charging. And no this isn't a grounding issue, it's actually the phone putting less power towards the audio output when it's not charging, and it really kills the sound unless it's plugged in.
Anyway, as soon as I'm able to jump ship I'm headed back to LG land and probably not going to visit MOTOville again for a LONG time.
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*waves*
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in my opinion the Nexus 5 is much better than the Motorola X, a much faster and with 2 cores more, better gpu for gaming and graphics, better display quality and higher definition processor, I just think that the Motorola x is better in voice prompts and little gross ... but in comparison the Nexus 5 takes the cake ... the processor is noted and much, greetings
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I also came from a 32gb nexus 5 to a 16gb moto x. And the n5 is just a bit faster not much though. My op the moto is way better for me. Just on the edge of 1 handed use. Where the nexus was very much 2 handed. I still have the nexus and I will not go back. X is the perfect all around phone. Size,speed,camera, screen,camera. Not the best in any but the best all together
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Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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AndreaCristiano said:
Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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... No...
See my post #12 right above yours on the same page.
The points I made have nothing to do with specs, just actual usage. Things that will actually make the experience of using the phone measurably different for a non-technical user.
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r.storm85 said:
I also came from a 32gb nexus 5 to a 16gb moto x. And the n5 is just a bit faster not much though. My op the moto is way better for me. Just on the edge of 1 handed use. Where the nexus was very much 2 handed. I still have the nexus and I will not go back. X is the perfect all around phone. Size,speed,camera, screen,camera. Not the best in any but the best all together
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I agree with you as I noticed the same things.
I couldn't use my N5 as a phone as nobody could ever hear me the microphone quality is that bad. Most of the time I couldn't even hear them so a majority of each call was spent shouting hello to each other.
I've not noticed any speed difference between the N5 and Moto X. Browsing through the menus is very smooth and fluid, opening apps is almost instant, web page browsing is just the same too. Only difference was when restoring a high number of text messages which is where the N5 came into it's own.
But doing every day tasks such as phone calls, adding memos, adding calendar entries, Spotify, Facebook, Twitter, WhatApp, taking photos, etc, there is no difference at all that I've noticed.
If I were just given the N5 and Moto X to play with without being given the spec of either, I wouldn't be able to tell any difference in speed.
Also it's the most comfortable phone I've ever owned by a mile. No longer need both hands to operate the phone like I had to do with the N5. Screen size is perfect for me.
I have a question for you guys that had both: which camera is better?
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Its funny the two people who chose the other phones over the X were all about specs while the others are actually about the usage of a phone. I never understood the spec war its like having a Ferrari with nowhere to drive it. If you cant use it all that horsepower is a waste
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Nicely said.

Are you happy with it?

So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?
In happy, if the camera was better, I would be happier, but I'll hold out for L in hopes of improved camera performance. If not, I have another upgrade in April, maybe grab a turbo if it doesn't look as bad as it has in the leaked photos.
I'm think off going back the LG G2. The camera may be the breaking point for me.
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I don't take many pictures, but the ones I have taken have been fine. On par with a majority of the smart phones I have owned except a few that were above average. Most of them are just "meh" and any difference is still not great so I just don't let it get to me. If pictures were priority I would still be on the Lumia 930 hands down, or maybe the iPhone 6 plus, but not most of the Android handsets available that's for sure.
Overall I love the phone though. It just a great phone to use and really when it comes down to it that is what matters. There are things that could use improvement (screen brightness, camera, battery life). But none of those factors are BAD, just not exceptional. I get through a day with ease and the screen is fine except in bright sunlight. The phone makes up for it with a great feel and ease of use. Its super fast and fluid, and little things like ActiveDisplay just make it all that much better of an experience. Of all the phones I have owned in the last year (a lot) it is the first one I feel content with and not pining for a new phone (which is rare for me). I am excited for Android L .
I love my Moto X. I too came from a Galaxy S4 running CyanogenMOD and this is so smooth without having to do any tweaking whatsoever. I've had this phone for 11 days and I already try to wave my hand over other people's phones and expect it to just turn on when I pick it up. These may be new features I can't live without.
Short answer....best phone I have ever owned
I came from the HTC One, HTC One M8, and LG G3. Also had the Nexus 5 as my daily driver before leaving it for LG G3. ... This phone trumps them all (still use m8 for low light photos)
The bad......nothing really. The camera and battery are decent enough.....just nothing to brag on.
As far as performance....nothing is close. So smooth...so fast.....so fluid.
The phone screen looks amazing and the stereo headphone jack is provides the best sound I have heard outside of the HTCOne.
No phone is perfect.....but this phone came very close
I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.
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I think it's too top heavy and not comfortable to hold. Maybe cuz I got leather and have a subconscious fear of scratching it or something. Ultimately, its fate w/me is doomed due to no root on verizon.
I'll give up the X if nexus comes out on verizon.
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This is the only downfall for me as well. I want gravitybox so bad. Just for the PIE controls so I can hide the nav bar. That extra screen real estate along with the one handed reachability would make this phone perfect for me.
I don't care about the camera quality, not a big deal for me. And the battery life is sufficient for me.
ChristianPreachr said:
So through a whole of problems with the GS4, and a little stroke of luck, I happened upon a Moto X 2014. I must say, the phone is smooth as butter. But I still feel like something is missing. My battery isn't a great feet, my camera is poor at best. The phone however is the fastest and smoothest I've ever seen an android phone. It makes me melt. But after using the LG G2 which I had for 2 days before this....I miss it comparatively to this. Just as fast, much larger battery, beautiful screen. The Moto X doesn't even have a "power save" feature, and that would at lest be helpful. I almost want to wait for the Droid Turbo, but by then my 14 days would be up. I'm just not sure what to do. So my question to others.....Are you happy with this device? or would you switch, given the opportunity? If so, to what?
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you'll be happy that L will bring this:
1. power saver built in
2. native code for camera stuff
3. project volt, which is supposed to help in battery
4. ...and much more
right now, there is nothing on the market that I want. so no, i would not switch. next year, maybe
after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho
FLUFFYMANGOES said:
after a week or so of using its okay. battery life sucks, i dont care about the camera, not sure why but many apps crash on it more than my nexus 5, and i can barely just barely see some hiccups/lag when navigating through the homescreen and some apps ill wait for android L tho
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Do you have ART enabled?
This phone is not top heavy, the center of its mass is right in the middle of the phone.
Just balance it on the index finger and you will see.
Best phone I used so far as well. But I never had any flagship devices before. Just a last years moto x, moto g, galaxy i9070... and an HTC one m8 as a phone for work, that's it.
But I saw many friends struggling with flagships while I was enjoying my moto x 2013.
I gave the HTC one m8 back to my boss and use the mx2013 now for my work and the mx2014 for private uses.
The mx2013 gave me an excellent experience, so I had no other choice than buying its successor.
BTW I hated the m8 even compared to the mx2013.
If Motorola doesn't **** it up, I'll buy their devices for a long time.
I could not be happier
Battery life could be bettet but ive yet to run out of it after a full day of work
How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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How do you enable ART and what does it change? I assume this is the ART vs dalvik thing?
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It's in developer options. Don't enable it. Several users have reported an increase in force closes.
It's a bigger, faster, smoother moto x. If you liked the 2013 x but wanted something bigger, this will make you happy.
I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.
robstunner said:
I like it, originally I let all the negative reviews get to me and even went back to my nexus 5 for a day. Then I realized how much nicer the moto x is. Its a great well rounded device. Unlocked bootloader with full warranty in tact, good camera, decent battery life, fast updates, near aosp and other great specs. Oh, and every time I'm on the phone I can smell wonderful leather lol.
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Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
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jmtjr278 said:
Unlocking the boot loader on the pure edition does not void the warranty? I have heard it does not but not sure.
sent from my 2014 moto X
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That's what I read from the Motorola feedback network administrator, he said they are "treating the pure edition like the 2013 Dev edition."
I love it, but I am interested in seeing what the Turbo and Nexus 6 bring to table, especially since it'll be on VZW. That being said, jumping to 5.2" from 4.7" was noticeable, can't really imagine carrying around 5.96"...

Phone prior to the Turbo

I'm very interested in buying the Droid Turbo but fear that the screen is small. What phones did everyone come from prior to having the Turbo? I've personally used the entire Note series and loved them, and currently own the LG G3. I love the specs of the Turbo, especially the battery, but fear the screen is just to small.
I'm coming from a G2. It's a comparable size to the G2 and the battery seems similar so far.
jdougal11 said:
I'm very interested in buying the Droid Turbo but fear that the screen is small. What phones did everyone come from prior to having the Turbo? I've personally used the entire Note series and loved them, and currently own the LG G3. I love the specs of the Turbo, especially the battery, but fear the screen is just to small.
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I had a Razr Maxx HD, 4.7" screen. My brother currently has a G3 and I have the Turbo. I feel the screens are almost the same size because of his on screen buttons, although they do go away sometimes. But I feel like it's more or less the same anyway.
Xelios029 said:
I had a Razr Maxx HD, 4.7" screen. My brother currently has a G3 and I have the Turbo. I feel the screens are almost the same size because of his on screen buttons, although they do go away sometimes. But I feel like it's more or less the same anyway.
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Good point about the buttons!
Someone else posted the same exact thing. The biggest thing with Turbo is that it doesn't have on screen buttons, so it seems larger than the G3.
Does this help?
http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size#/phones/size/Motorola-DROID-Turbo,LG-G3/phones/8956,8347
Droid Turbo is slightly shorter and narrower, but slightly thicker. The screen itself seems to be a bit shorter and narrower as well.
SGS3 user here. The Turbo is leaps and bounds better than my S3. My ultimate benchmark was to load GTA: San Andreas on both phones. The Turbo trounced the S3 in every aspect from installation time, to graphics settings. I had to run all low settings to even get a playable game on the S3 and the Turbo could max everything (except "car detail" was turned down to "normal" because I was getting a slight decrease in FPS). Installation time of apps in general is noticeably faster as well. The only bottleneck is my internet. The color on the Turbo is much better as well. I never noticed how blue the screen on my S3 was until I compared it to the Turbo. I have a mostly white wallpaper and the Turbos whites are outstanding. The only things I miss about my S3 are the removable battery (ZeroLemon 7000mAh battery FTW) and root capability. I love Xposed-- I stopped using custom ROMS because of Gravity Box paired with CM11. Hopefully someone will come out with a good root method. If that happens, I will never look back.
How is the screen brightness compared to the SGS3?
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SGS3 user here. The Turbo is leaps and bounds better than my S3. My ultimate benchmark was to load GTA: San Andreas on both phones. The Turbo trounced the S3 in every aspect from installation time, to graphics settings. I had to run all low settings to even get a playable game on the S3 and the Turbo could max everything (except "car detail" was turned down to "normal" because I was getting a slight decrease in FPS). Installation time of apps in general is noticeably faster as well. The only bottleneck is my internet. The color on the Turbo is much better as well. I never noticed how blue the screen on my S3 was until I compared it to the Turbo. I have a mostly white wallpaper and the Turbos whites are outstanding. The only things I miss about my S3 are the removable battery (ZeroLemon 7000mAh battery FTW) and root capability. I love Xposed-- I stopped using custom ROMS because of Gravity Box paired with CM11. Hopefully someone will come out with a good root method. If that happens, I will never look back.
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jdougal11 said:
I'm very interested in buying the Droid Turbo but fear that the screen is small. What phones did everyone come from prior to having the Turbo? I've personally used the entire Note series and loved them, and currently own the LG G3. I love the specs of the Turbo, especially the battery, but fear the screen is just to small.
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Only because I am a complete and absolute genius have I been able to solve your problem for you.... if the droid turbo screen is too small for you, buy a NEXUS 6.
... its the same phone, but bigger screen -- 6".
I'm coming from a Droid DNA.
And right now, I'm having buyer's remorse. Not loving it yet.
Just got the Turbo yesterday as a work phone, previous work phone being an HTC One M7. I like it a lot so far but I'm really hoping to see at least root on this.
Also own the G3 for a personal phone and still like it a lot more than my Turbo
jdougal11 said:
I'm very interested in buying the Droid Turbo but fear that the screen is small. What phones did everyone come from prior to having the Turbo? I've personally used the entire Note series and loved them, and currently own the LG G3. I love the specs of the Turbo, especially the battery, but fear the screen is just to small.
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I've heard a couple of people say this now, and it just sounds weird to me. Too small? Are you coming from a tablet?
IMHO, 5.2" is just marginally too large.
My criteria are, must be able to hold phone in one hand, supporting bottom with pinky (so it doesn't slide out) and reach 100% of screen surface area using only the thumb of the hand the phone is being held in.
If I ever have to use both hands in order to use my phone, I consider it to be a fail.
I got used to the LG G2's 5.2" screen before this, but reaching the far end (top opposite side of thumb) of the screen is a stretch without shifting the phone in my hand (and risking dropping it) even in my rather large hands.
An ideal screen size for my hands would probably be just a smidge smaller, in the 4.8" to 5.0" range somewhere.
I recall the 4.8" screen in my old Galaxy S3 feeling just about perfect in use.
I wish they would stop making the high end phones only in these crazy large tablet sizes. I was looking forward to the Nexus 6, but it was WAAAAAY too big. Settled on the Droid Turbo, even though it is a little large.
Came from the 2013 Moto G Verizon 3G 8GB variant.
Prior was
Droid 4
Droid 3
Droid 1
I'd get a Droid 5 if it came out >.>;;;
rajuabju said:
I'm coming from a Droid DNA.
And right now, I'm having buyer's remorse. Not loving it yet.
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I've got a DNA now and am seriously looking at the turbo if you miss it that bad I'll trade you ? is it that you miss sense possibly
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Also own the G3 for a personal phone and still like it a lot more than my Turbo
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It's hard for me to find a phone I really like. I upgraded from the G3, but the battery life really isn't that much better. Granted my G3 was rooted, debloated, and had lots of battery life tweaks, the camera is worse on the Turbo and I prefer the more accurate LCD of the G3 over the oversaturated and warm Turbo.
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How is the screen brightness compared to the SGS3?
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Actually as soon as I got the phone I noticed that my S3 was brighter, by quite a bit. Inside, the turbo is fine, but I fear that it might be pretty terrible in sunlight.
PizzaSauce said:
Just got the Turbo yesterday as a work phone, previous work phone being an HTC One M7. I like it a lot so far but I'm really hoping to see at least root on this.
Also own the G3 for a personal phone and still like it a lot more than my Turbo
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What reasons do you like the G3 more?
To the screen being to small, like I said I'm coming from LG G3 and the Note 1/2/3. I like the big screen phablets. I had the Galaxy S5 for a few months but I got rid of it because it was to small.
I've been thinking about the Nexus 6 but I think that may be to large. The Note was on the line of being to big.
I came from a Razr M. Lol. This screen seems huge to me, but very good.
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What reasons do you like the G3 more?
To the screen being to small, like I said I'm coming from LG G3 and the Note 1/2/3. I like the big screen phablets. I had the Galaxy S5 for a few months but I got rid of it because it was to small.
I've been thinking about the Nexus 6 but I think that may be to large. The Note was on the line of being to big.
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Definitely the back buttons in combo with double-tap-to-wake.
It's also really nice having the removable back to add wireless charging and removable battery.
Plus I think the Droid lineup has worn out the Kevlar look, it's getting kind of cheesy. But it's a noticeably solid phone and I don't feel that I could break it easily like I do with my G3
jdougal11 said:
What reasons do you like the G3 more?
To the screen being to small, like I said I'm coming from LG G3 and the Note 1/2/3. I like the big screen phablets. I had the Galaxy S5 for a few months but I got rid of it because it was to small.
I've been thinking about the Nexus 6 but I think that may be to large. The Note was on the line of being to big.
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This is what I like about the G3 over the Turbo:
5.5" display over a 5.2" display, in a phone just ever so slightly larger
On screen buttons
Better WiFi signal strength
More comfortable to hold, and easier to slide in and out of my pocket
Root. And better dev support so far
Much better rear camera, and OIS
More accurate IPS LCD, whites are white and not a slight yellow tint
MicroSD slot and removable battery
Doubletap to wake
And this is what I like better about the DROID Turbo:
Wireless charging included
Feels more durable and substantial
Active display
Wider and better quality front facing camera
Slightly better battery life
More grippier to hold, less chance of falling
Turbo charging
SIM card is easily removable
Display has a wider viewing angle
Brighter display and more saturated
No "oversharpening" problem

Still the best phone?

So...after 4 months with the Verizon version, I'm making what I call a "lateral"transfer to the LG G2. Specs are becoming moot. The G2 offers a lot, the battery being a big factor.
Did anyone else let go of there Moto X 2014?
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I'll never let go of the Moto X, best phone ever made. I always sell my old devices to pay for my new ones, but that's not gonna happen this time around. This bad boy is going in the museum when I upgrade.
A friend just got the G3 as there was some issue getting the Moto X (corporate account). It's a great phone, but I wasn't a big fan of their software overlays. Plus cell radio quality is a big factor for me and the Moto X has better radio/antenna system. Camera on LG is noticeably better, but still not good enough if it is low light and something I really care about. Nice that it has removable battery and SD card, but have really never needed either.
And I do like the Moto X add ons... if they'd only get 'Attentive Display' working on Lollipop!
I'm finding that the battery isn't holding up long term.I need more. It's great for what it does, but it's a legitimate step back. It's rather disappointing.
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Solutions Etcetera said:
A friend just got the G3 as there was some issue getting the Moto X (corporate account). It's a great phone, but I wasn't a big fan of their software overlays. Plus cell radio quality is a big factor for me and the Moto X has better radio/antenna system. Camera on LG is noticeably better, but still not good enough if it is low light and something I really care about. Nice that it has removable battery and SD card, but have really never needed either.
And I do like the Moto X add ons... if they'd only get 'Attentive Display' working on Lollipop!
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Attentive display seems to be working quite well in the newest lollipop build (5.0.1) that was just released for Telus in Canada.
Steve-x said:
Attentive display seems to be working quite well in the newest lollipop build (5.0.1) that was just released for Telus in Canada.
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Good to hear. Hopefully we'll get that in the US soon.
Its the best phone for who dont have an att branded device. I cant unlock it and dont have lollipop.. Next time i will pay more for a pure.
The moto x series is really a breakthrough, this phone is (the) smartphone, I spent an hour or two receiving and responding to messages and calls without touching it not to mention other genius features which are hardware dependent.
Cons: no sd card and no easily removable battery
Pro: everything else
A very nice phone
The battery life is really bad, and has gotten worst. Even with Lollipop, which made it better, I'm not happy. As much as I love the speed of the phone, the battery is killing me hard! The G2 will give me near similar speed with much better battery, not to mention greater storage. This may be on Swappa soon...
I went from a nexus 5 to a G3 to now the moto X² PE and won't give this up unless something crazy comes out or the X³ arrives.
I have not had any battery issues with this phone as I consistently get 4.5 hrs SOT with 12+ hours total. I will say that the camera on the G3 was much better, but the moto X isn't horrible. And the hands free/voice actions with this phone are second to none.
That's just my humble opinion though.
As someone on Verizon, this phone is BY FAR the best available. No bloatware other than AcDisplay and some nice Moto things that make the phone better. Coming from a GS3 and a Galaxy Nexus (switched after my GS3 cracked), this phone is a god when it comes to battery life. I consistently get three, if not four hours of SoT per day. This phone already has lollipop and had it before some Nexus devices got it, and some flagships still don't have it, let alone on Verizon. The only thing not so good is the camera, but it gets the job done fine as long as there's good lighting. If I had the choice (unlocked cell service), I would still choose the OnePlus One, but I didn't have a choice.
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As someone on Verizon, this phone is BY FAR the best available. No bloatware other than AcDisplay and some nice Moto things that make the phone better. Coming from a GS3 and a Galaxy Nexus (switched after my GS3 cracked), this phone is a god when it comes to battery life. I consistently get three, if not four hours of SoT per day. This phone already has lollipop and had it before some Nexus devices got it, and some flagships still don't have it, let alone on Verizon. The only thing not so good is the camera, but it gets the job done fine as long as there's good lighting. If I had the choice (unlocked cell service), I would still choose the OnePlus One, but I didn't have a choice.
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I'm on Verizon, and you must not have used a G3 or the Turbo at all. The LG skin is light (I come from Samsung) and the Turbo is the X beefed up.
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ChristianPreachr said:
I'm on Verizon, and you must not have used a G3 or the Turbo at all. The LG skin is light (I come from Samsung) and the Turbo is the X beefed up.
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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.
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The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.
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My feelings exactly. I really, really didn't like how the Turbo was built and even though the G3 build in my opinion is sleek, it's nothing special compared to the X. I've never used either phone as a daily driver, so I may not be the best one to judge it, but the Moto X is blazing fast with "good enough" features that work for me as a user who just wants to get through the day being able to use features like Google Now, something I was never able to keep on with my previous phones. The experience of the X is perfect for an everyday user, like most people are, and in my opinion that's what matters most in a phone. Again, I may have bias as this is my only phone I have been using.
_MetalHead_ said:
The Turbo looks great on paper, but the actual device is only so-so. I spent a good deal of time with one and walked away unimpressed. The X has FAR better build quality, is as fast if not faster (no QHD screen to waste resources on) and was generally smoother. Sure the turbo has better battery life, but my X easily lasts through the day and then some so it's a non-issue. The G3 is ugly, the skin is still pretty bad, and it is underpowered for the screen it has. Aside from the N5, everything LG puts out is just meh. People need to stop looking at only specs, they don't matter nearly as much as they used to. That said, the X still provides the best user experience out of any phone on the market, and that is what's important.
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Well, from the beginning of time until now, numbers haven't lied. That's not up for debate. But with user experience..I have to install nova launcher on the X because stock is lacking. The G2 (which I'm going to) offers equal speed. A smaller os, better battery and excellent build all while being a year older. The X while being customizable is just not enough for a power user.
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Well, from the beginning of time until now, numbers haven't lied. That's not up for debate. But with user experience..I have to install nova launcher on the X because stock is lacking. The G2 (which I'm going to) offers equal speed. A smaller os, better battery and excellent build all while being a year older. The X while being customizable is just not enough for a power user.
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I never said numbers lie, but they aren't always representative of the actual experience that the phone provides. If numbers meant everything, than the iPhone would have the worst battery life and performance of any smartphone out there, but that couldn't be farther from the truth. The same applies to the X. While the Turbo has better numbers, the X has the better UX. I don't see how the X isn't enough for a power user, I'm the very definition of a power user and it is pretty much everything I can ask for in a smartphone, with storage being the sole exception. Who cares if you have to put Nova launcher on it? That has no bearing on the quality of the phone itself. At least it doesn't have a nasty UI like the G2 does, even Nova cant save it from LG's hideous software, not to mention the plastic fantastic build. But everybody is entitled to their own opinion. If you think the G2 will serve your needs better, than that's wonderful. For me, the X is where its at.
hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
i personally like pure vanilla aosp and this both have almost same though moto has some modification i don't think it will impact badly on performance ( does it? )
i love N5's fast update smooth performance even with some hardware compromises
but on other has moto x have better SD801 , and GUP freq 578 (vs 450 on N5) { will gaming performance be better ? } which in theory make it batter performance so if any anyone here can tell it's really an upgrade or i won't feel anything better
finally i like amoled but read somewhere that amoled pannel on moto x is worst qauily that samsung can make (really ?!!) , othere thing about camera ppl says it's 13MP is not as good as 8MP of N5 !! ( is it right ? ) and moto don't have notification led & OIS ( while taking pictures only does it matter ? )
so need your view should i go for moto X of stick again with relibale N5 ? will moto x be really upgrade ?
and how's lollipop on moto X ? ( i really like lollipop so hoping bugfree )
it will be really helpful if you can answer red marked questions
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hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
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and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
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old generation phone vs new one. I really have no doubt which one to buy between 2 candidates.
maybe take a look to lg products or htc but don't make a step into the past.
jineshpatel30 said:
hello guys ! i wanna upgrade to new device
and i'm confused between nexus 5 and moto x(2014) ?
i personally like pure vanilla aosp and this both have almost same though moto has some modification i don't think it will impact badly on performance ( does it? )
i love N5's fast update smooth performance even with some hardware compromises
but on other has moto x have better SD801 , and GUP freq 578 (vs 450 on N5) { will gaming performance be better ? } which in theory make it batter performance so if any anyone here can tell it's really an upgrade or i won't feel anything better
finally i like amoled but read somewhere that amoled pannel on moto x is worst qauily that samsung can make (really ?!!) , othere thing about camera ppl says it's 13MP is not as good as 8MP of N5 !! ( is it right ? ) and moto don't have notification led & OIS ( while taking pictures only does it matter ? )
so need your view should i go for moto X of stick again with relibale N5 ? will moto x be really upgrade ?
and how's lollipop on moto X ? ( i really like lollipop so hoping bugfree )
it will be really helpful if you can answer red marked questions
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I have and use both of those phones regularly and while the N5 is still a beast of a phone, the Moto X is easily the better of the two. The software mods that Motorola has done don't affect performance at all, and actually go a long way to making the Moto X what it is. Moto Display and Moto Voice are game changers. Gaming performance is great on both devices but slightly better on the Moto X. I can't say anything about lollipop because I don't like it at all and am keeping all my devices on KitKat indefinitely. If you get the X, which you should, make sure you buy the Pure Edition or at least one that's not branded by a carrier who doesn't allow bootloader unlocking. You need that unlockable bootloader in order to be able to root the phone.

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