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When I have installed games like Sniper vs Sniper, Homerun Battle 3d and Asphalt. They all have me to download more files but they are always installed on the internal SD instead of the External SD. Is there a way to prevent this?
anyone have any ideas?
Any reason why you would NOT want them on the near 2 gigs allocated?
I want the installations to go on the External Card and they are all installing on the internal card. Maybe the thread topic is misleading....
No, just curious why 2 gigs is not enough. Especially when faster than external. Doesn't make sense...
Its the way the SDs are mounted. Sdcard/sd is the external. The app just looks for sdcard/ which is the internal.
He's taking about the internal sd not the /data apps dir.
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tissimo said:
Its the way the SDs are mounted. Sdcard/sd is the external. The app just looks for sdcard/ which is the internal.
He's taking about the internal sd not the /data apps dir.
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Yes thats what im referring to. I want everything to be on the external. On other phones like the Evo, the games "extra" files are installed on the Ext SD Card.
correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding is there are 3 storage options:
1. Phone's 2GB internal memory: this is where apps are installed
2. Phone's 12GB internal memory: internal memory you can mount to PC and move files back and forth
3. External SD card slot: can use up to 32GB of microSD card here.
OP, what exactly are you looking to do? Put the apps installed on the 2GB internal ROM on the external SD card? I don't think this is doable w/o rooting, maybe 2.2 Froyo will have it.
jkcheng122 said:
correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding is there are 3 storage options:
1. Phone's 2GB internal memory: this is where apps are installed
2. Phone's 12GB internal memory: internal memory you can mount to PC and move files back and forth
3. External SD card slot: can use up to 32GB of microSD card here.
OP, what exactly are you looking to do? Put the apps installed on the 2GB internal ROM on the external SD card? I don't think this is doable w/o rooting, maybe 2.2 Froyo will have it.
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Games like Homerun Battle 3d. When you install it, it tells you that it has to download more information to store on your SD Card. On the HTC Evo, the downloaded information stores on the external SD Card in the /com2us folder. On the Vibrant, the extra information that is downloaded stores on the internal SD card in the same folder. I would rather have all the extra info store on the EXT SD Card.
acjames said:
Yes thats what im referring to. I want everything to be on the external. On other phones like the Evo, the games "extra" files are installed on the Ext SD Card.
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Sorry I wasn't really clear on my on my post. Most phones don't have an internal SD card, so the standard mount for the external SD card is the sdcard/ partition, so the app automatically mounts the data there. You'll have to reprogram the app to see the SGS external SD card mounting directory of sdcard/sd
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so the problem is the the phone is using the sdcard memory for internal use, and the internal memory for sdcard use. I was getting low memory errors.
the card now has another entry.. sdcard home reads as follows..
asec
emmc... .android secure, lost.dir in this folder
sdcard ... .android, fix permisions, lost.dir, tmp. in this folder
secure
how do i get my phone and sd storage back to normal
Use a stock rom, format your sd card.
adr83 said:
so the problem is the the phone is using the sdcard memory for internal use, and the internal memory for sdcard use. I was getting low memory errors.
the card now has another entry.. sdcard home reads as follows..
asec
emmc... .android secure, lost.dir in this folder
sdcard ... .android, fix permisions, lost.dir, tmp. in this folder
secure
how do i get my phone and sd storage back to normal
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Hey everyone!
I have an "I wonder?"
I wonder if there is a way to make the tab read the external sd card as the internal one and vice versa.
The tab has "3" memory locations. build in, internal and external.
You see, the external slot can hold a card up to 32 or 64gigs. My internal is, well, getting really low.
There are so many apps and games that store their info on the internal sd card, and if you physically move the info to the external it makes you redownload it. Some games are like a gig download!!! There is one in particular that is 1.5!
Any thoughts?
Hi,
I guess the subject says it all.
To clarify, I've just got my new Note and I currently have Acer A100. I took the titanium apps backup folder and transfered it to the Note and did a titanium backup restore.
I've successfully restored 316 apps, but still have 84 apps left.
My System Storage says: 1.8gb used - 184mb free
USB Storage from Storage says: 11.07gb total space - 8.37gb available space.
I couldn't complete the titanium backup restore and have to turn the phone off/on in order to stop the FROZEN apps restore process on the 318th app out of 464ish.
Moreover, I can't install anything from the Market and I get unable to install for insufficient storage error.
Any ideas, help? And please don't say I've to install an external SD card since I'm not planning at the moment. My concern now: why this is happening?
BTW, I don't have Facebook app installed so I can clear the cache, and I already did Market clear cache, but no luck.
Thanks!
No one????
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Move some apps to SD.
i had this issue when i first started loading my apps on the note. started getting low memory alerts after about 200mb was left then stopped loading any app when about 190mb was left. what the f*** my old htc desire had 147mb internal memory available for apps and would load apps till about 5mb was left on initial firmware then with updated firmware would allow apps to load only till about 15mb was left on internal memory.
anyway even i too had about 10gb left on the internal storage and still would get the low memory alerts. and just could not move apps to internal sd card with apps2sd pro or even the stock apps tool for moving apps to internal memory. my 32gb card was almost full so was stuffed till i deleted some stuff on card and then could move a bit to external card.
but somehow later, when installing / uninstalling apps it seems to have now moved some to internal sd storage dont know how it happened and i have more meroy on my external card now.
but phone does crash with freezing and only sorts itself out when card removed. happened a few days ago and again last night. works perfect when no sd card. card is sansidk 32gb and works fine on my htc desire. but the folder structure is a bit different from my htc desire and dont know if my htc desire folder structure being present on my card is causing issues and freezing and crashes. if not sorted then will put a new card and copy over stuff that i need.
MartijnMM said:
Move some apps to SD.
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As I said earlier, I don't want to insert an external SD card at the moment. I want to use it like any other phone/tablet that has more than 3/4 of the storage available... BUT, thanks for the suggestion!
bubblesmoney said:
i had this issue when i first started loading my apps on the note. started getting low memory alerts after about 200mb was left then stopped loading any app when about 190mb was left. what the f*** my old htc desire had 147mb internal memory available for apps and would load apps till about 5mb was left on initial firmware then with updated firmware would allow apps to load only till about 15mb was left on internal memory.
anyway even i too had about 10gb left on the internal storage and still would get the low memory alerts. and just could not move apps to internal sd card with apps2sd pro or even the stock apps tool for moving apps to internal memory. my 32gb card was almost full so was stuffed till i deleted some stuff on card and then could move a bit to external card.
but somehow later, when installing / uninstalling apps it seems to have now moved some to internal sd storage dont know how it happened and i have more meroy on my external card now.
but phone does crash with freezing and only sorts itself out when card removed. happened a few days ago and again last night. works perfect when no sd card. card is sansidk 32gb and works fine on my htc desire. but the folder structure is a bit different from my htc desire and dont know if my htc desire folder structure being present on my card is causing issues and freezing and crashes. if not sorted then will put a new card and copy over stuff that i need.
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I had the same exact thing!!!!!!!!!!!!
Around 190mb, my phone started to give that error.
So, I either had to install/uninstall apps and see if it moved them to internal storage, or I have to have an external SD card????
I just ordered a class 10 16gb sd card from AmazonBasics and I'm waiting for it. My problem is that I'm overseas and I want to use the phone fully without an SD card!!!!!!!!!!!
how big are the backups and what are you restoring? if you have loads of sms/mms etc then it will take up the internal space
the usb space you can ignore as that isnt part of the data space provided
The backup was 1.8gb. But I was restoring only the apps nothing else from titanium backup...
Is there away I can use the USB storage as internal storage for apps? And I mean not using an external SD card at ALL...???
Post with incorrect information.
I tried doing that, but it tells me that I need to insert an SD card!!!!
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Bigmille said:
You have misunderstood move to SD option.
Gingerbread storage operate a bit different from Honeycomb.
The 16GB onboard storage in the Note is divided into two visible partitions, 2GB for storage apps and 11GB as SD card.
The move to SD option simply move the apps from the 2GB partition to the 11 GB partition, no external micro SD card is needed.
Just download App2SD and see which apps can be move to the 11GB partition to free up space for install extra apps.
Once Note get Ice Cream Sandwich update, hopefully we will not have this problem.
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no your method didnt work for me even though i had 10gb free on usb internal memory and 190mb free on partition reserved for apps. app2sdmove pro and stock application manager would refuse to move any app to usb 11gb memory. my 32gb sd card was full so couldnt move there either. only after i deleted some data and made space on my external 32gb card could i move apps withh app2sd pro or the stock app manager.
but curiously later (2w later) somehow (i dont know) now about 155 apps seem to have moved themselves to internal memory (the 11gb usb memory present internally on the phone and now i have 10gb used up on the internal memory and similar amount free on my card. god knows how that happened.
now as my phone was crashing again last night have had to remove sd card from phone and phone working fine. will see whether to copy data to lapton and reformat the card in phone and then transfer back data or whether to use a new card.
but the app move to sd feature is certainly buggy with there being different areas to move the app to. now some of my apps are on internal 1.9gb memory, some are on my 11gb internal memory and some are on sd card. i have no contrl over which app goes where irrespective of whether i use stock app manager or app2sd pro.
any pointers anyone, how to force all apps to move to internal 11gb memory and not to external sd card?
Thanks for the clarification.
There must be something (some sort of process or an action) triggered the apps transfer to the internal storage!
Don't you think? Can't you think of anything that you've installed or did that made that happen?
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Thanks for the clarification.
There must be something (some sort of process or an action) triggered the apps transfer to the internal storage!
Don't you think? Can't you think of anything that you've installed or did that made that happen?
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dont know but the crashing usually starts at night uk time and always hangs when system media scanner is perpetually scanning then device crashes. cant remember what apps i uninstalled but most were reinstalled and seemed to work fine a few days. same phone has been phone all day today but the sd card has been removed since last night. am busy work wise till tomorrow so havent had the time to sort out the sd card. will see over the next few days.
regarding the apps moving to internal sd card. i just deleted some apps then reinstalled them then used the regular apps2sd pro to move to sd card, seems t work sometimes, but not at other times. same goes for the app settings menu. for example if i now without sd card in phone try the sd card move option, it does not move apps to internal 11mb but rather i get pop up saying no sd card. but dont know how the 155apps are already on the same 11gb on internal memory, but many are still on the 1.9gb space of partitioned internal memory and can be moved.
i already have google earth installed from the market and moved it to sd card. but thought that some bits of it remain on internal memory. but doesnt look like it. now without sd card if i visit market then google earth on market gives install option again inspite of having it already on my sd card and when i press instal it installs again onto 1.9gb of internal memory and when i try apps 2 sd option then i get pop up saying no sd card and doesnt move it to the 11gb internal memory.
dont know how to sort this issue. will try to figure it out over the next few days but hoping someone else can give some pointers how to move apps to 11gb internal memory.
out of the 303 app icons present on my noteapp screen (including all the ones that came with the phone) 128 are on external sd card, 155 are on internal 11gb card. dont know how some went to internal sd card and some went to external sd card. hope someone can help out to move all of them to internal 11gb memory.
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The move to SD option simply move the apps from the 2GB partition to the 11 GB partition, no external micro SD card is needed.
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This is not correct.
Apps to SD moves files from internal memory to /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D.
This is the external SD card normally. (it's technically possible to mess with the device links to swap /sdcard and /external_sd though).
Data in /sdcard comes from applications which download their own data.
I.e. you run them and they say 'I need to download a bunch of data!'. For example, Asphalt 6. That data can't be shifted out and there is a definite possiblity of filling up your 10 gig partition with stuff like this.
This is one of the bigger faults of the Note, IMHO.
- Frank
That's what I thought...
It's one of Note's drawbacks in terms of usage of internal storage and there's no workaround as far as I know.
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ChodTheWacko said:
This is not correct.
Apps to SD moves files from internal memory to /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D.
This is the external SD card normally. (it's technically possible to mess with the device links to swap /sdcard and /external_sd though).
Data in /sdcard comes from applications which download their own data.
I.e. you run them and they say 'I need to download a bunch of data!'. For example, Asphalt 6. That data can't be shifted out and there is a definite possiblity of filling up your 10 gig partition with stuff like this.
This is one of the bigger faults of the Note, IMHO.
- Frank
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My bad, good to know.
I don't seems to find /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D path, or Apps2D folder using both My Files and Root Explorer apps, must be hidden.
Bigmille said:
My bad, good to know.
I don't seems to find /sdcard/external_sd/Apps2D path, or Apps2D folder using both My Files and Root Explorer apps, must be hidden.
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Whoa - you are right... Me neither. I got the location of Apps2D from the diskusage app. I wonder if it's a diskusage bug.
im just a bit confused about the sd card in general,,my phone of astro file manager has like,,,phone>sdcard>externalsd...which is weird and i never know if im searching my phone or my sd card...
when i try and load things i have dragged on my pc desktop onto sdcard they ussualy then go into phone>sdcard>external sd and never just .... sd card
i was trying to load images into sketchbook mobile and i could only do so from the phones camera pictures where i now have to drag everything omn the desktop....why cant i make use of my 32gb external sd card in this regard?
where are the applications for augmenting tehe sd card memory or whatever not for just having aplication sent to sd card memory,
does the sd card just work like say,,an external usb hard drive for a computer except you can put some inatalled application on it,,,,,but nothing like media,,photos videos etc?
or is it just me?
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Your phone aka tab is divided into parts
System arnd 2 gigs
SDCARD arnd 14 gigs
System works as space for system
Sd as your sd card - Flashing doesn't destroy data on this
And if you place another SD card then it is termed as external_sd
So primary storage for you phone is SD Which is its own space
PS : there is usb storage folder (in sd card directory) also which is for your pendrives, etc
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dx.varun said:
Your phone aka tab is divided into parts
System arnd 2 gigs
SDCARD arnd 14 gigs
System works as space for system
Sd as your sd card - Flashing doesn't destroy data on this
And if you place another SD card then it is termed as external_sd
So primary storage for you phone is SD Which is its own space
PS : there is usb storage folder (in sd card directory) also which is for your pendrives, etc
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there are a lot more partitions than the 2 you mentioned!
efs
system (~1GB)
data (~2GB)
hidden
...
as far as i remember the note has 8 or 9 partitions (all of them have to be
subtracted from the initial 16gig (unformated!! formated it will be significantly less) storage!
so from your 16gigs you should see around 11GB as free mem on '"sdcard"!
i can't tell exactly because i have the 32gb internal version. with it a little more than 25,5GB are shown as "total" available (not free) storage!
as mentioned above
the rom has 1gb partition
data/system has 2gb
rest is used for sd card purposes around about 11.8gb
the device sees the internal memory as sd memory, the external sd card is seen under /external_sd
the file mangers will automatically go directly to the internal storage when browsing
i understand that I get about 12 GB left from 16 internally but.....
what can I actually do with the external_sd?
I cant load jpeggs onto sketchbook mobile at the moment. Reaally annoying
Any reason as to why it wouldn't recognize files in the external_sd?
Also we were saying about partitins and other random folder in the phone SD and external sd? anyone got a referrl to which ones can be deleted and generally how to make the phone and external sd card more navigation friendly?
please this would be really helpful
external_sd is your physical micro sd card, you can do what you want with it, i personally have all my music and movies on there
what files are you putting on the card?
Richy99 said:
external_sd is your physical micro sd card, you can do what you want with it, i personally have all my music and movies on there
what files are you putting on the card?
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i guess he has no card installed
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So apparently since the android Jelly Bean update you can no longer move apps from the internal sd card to the external sd card. BULL**** (forgive my french) this is ridiculous why would they get rid of that feature? The 16gb s4 actually only has roughly 9ish gigs. That's not enough space if you download the big games nowadays. Has anybody found a workaround for this? Unfortunately you can't even use the app2sd app. I have a 32gb sd card waiting to be filled with apps so if anybody knows a workaround I would really appreciate the help! Also I would prefer not to have to root my phone.
*I have the At&t Samsung Galaxy S4 16gb model*
Download gl to SD from play store, you can move any data to external SD, just follow the directions.
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Sadly I dont think rooting can even help... the sd slot just seems like they added it so people would buy the phone atleast thats why I got this in stead of the iphone..
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SlayaDud said:
So apparently since the android Jelly Bean update you can no longer move apps from the internal sd card to the external sd card. BULL**** (forgive my french) this is ridiculous why would they get rid of that feature? The 16gb s4 actually only has roughly 9ish gigs. That's not enough space if you download the big games nowadays. Has anybody found a workaround for this? Unfortunately you can't even use the app2sd app. I have a 32gb sd card waiting to be filled with apps so if anybody knows a workaround I would really appreciate the help! Also I would prefer not to have to root my phone.
*I have the At&t Samsung Galaxy S4 16gb model*
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Here's the app that you need. Move any data to external_sd.
DirectoryBind - move data to external_sd (GameLoft, Shadowgun etc.) ROOT req.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1410262
EDIT: OOPS!!! DirectoryBind doesn't work on 4.2.2
(I'm still using it on my S2 w/Gingerbread. Waiting on the 32gb or 64gb S4.)
Have to use this instead:
[APP][ROOT] FolderMount - Link folders from internal SD to external to free space
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2192122
Thats because they're installed to it automatically. Before when you moved to sd the apps moved from inernal to internal sd card, which is where apps installed on the s4. Ext-sd is your memory card you insert on back of phone. Stock app manager has never been able to move apps to ext-sd only sd card. Titanium back up and other apps can though. So remeber if you inserted a sd card in back you have three storage places. Internal, internal sd, ext-sd. Apps install to the 16 gig automatically on the s4.
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ripper4209 said:
Thats because they're installed to it automatically. Before when you moved to sd the apps moved from inernal to internal sd card, which is where apps installed on the s4. Ext-sd is your memory card you insert on back of phone. Stock app manager has never been able to move apps to ext-sd only sd card. Titanium back up and other apps can though. So remeber if you inserted a sd card in back you have three storage places. Internal, internal sd, ext-sd. Apps install to the 16 gig automatically on the s4.
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OK, I'm not a full-on geek (e.g. I do not want to root my device), still I'm pretty savvy, but I don't understand what you've said here.
I just updated from a Samsung Stratosphere (Android 2.3.6) to Stratosphere 2 (4.1.2), so I'm now acclimating to JellyBean.
I moved my SD card from the Strat to the Strat 2 and can see in the File Manager the sdcard0 and the exSdCard.
You are saying that in addition to my inserting an actual, physical SD card, there is both internal storage and additional built-in storage (sdcard0)?
Three separate storage areas?
The "main" internal is for the OS?
The built-in SD is for apps?
And my additional external SD is for data (e.g. video, music, etc.?)
I'm confused because, while the phone is still zipping along smoothly, Settings/Storage is telling me that, in 24 hours, I've already gobbled up 4.3 GB of my 8 GB device memory, > 3 GB of this being "miscellaneous" files.
Meanwhile, my application mgr tells me I have used 1.1 GB with 3.7 GB remaining.
Mind you, I am not a heavy app user (e.g. Evernote, my bank's app, NY Times, Dropbox, a few simple games), so what took a 3 GB chomp of my internal memory. For the life of me, I can't remember how I did it, but I did move all "consumer" data (e.g. documents, video, photos, etc.) to be stored on the extSD but, in 24 hours, I don't have that much to store.
Bottom line, are we non-rooters slaves to the internal (SD?) memory for our apps?