Vivo Xplay 3S finally breaks the barrier as world's first 2K phone - Android TV General

Just when it looked as Samsung will be the first, or even Oppo who boasted they will do it first just yesterday, Vivo, at Beijing's Water Cube event center in China, has finally released the world's first mobile phone with 2560x1440 pixels resolution.
The Vivo Xplay 3S features a massive 6" 2560x1440pixels QHD(not the same as qHD) display with a PPI sum of 490 — though huge, but unfortunately not crashing through the 500 PPI barrier as expected(if it came with a 5.5-inch screen).
The phone is powered by's Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 8974AB SoC, 2.3GHz Krait 400 CPU, 3GB of RAM and Adreno 330 GPU. The power juice is supplied by a 3200mAh battery. The Xplay 3S sports a 13MP camera with f/1.8 aperture, and can record 1080p motion pictures.
Now, away from the basics, the Vivo Xplay 3S is the model of a 2014 flagship. A fingerprint sensor just below the flash and stereo speakers at the back makes you wanna wish Santa for one right away.
Is the 2K resolution a bad-ass feature or a gimmick?
Source: bestmobs.com/vivo-xplay-3s-finally-breaks-the-worlds-first-2k-phone/

jacide said:
Just when it looked as Samsung will be the first, or even Oppo who boasted they will do it first just yesterday, Vivo, at Beijing's Water Cube event center in China, has finally released the world's first mobile phone with 2560x1440 pixels resolution.
The Vivo Xplay 3S features a massive 6" 2560x1440pixels QHD(not the same as qHD) display with a PPI sum of 490 — though huge, but unfortunately not crashing through the 500 PPI barrier as expected(if it came with a 5.5-inch screen).
The phone is powered by's Qualcomm Snapdragon 800 8974AB SoC, 2.3GHz Krait 400 CPU, 3GB of RAM and Adreno 330 GPU. The power juice is supplied by a 3200mAh battery. The Xplay 3S sports a 13MP camera with f/1.8 aperture, and can record 1080p motion pictures.
Now, away from the basics, the Vivo Xplay 3S is the model of a 2014 flagship. A fingerprint sensor just below the flash and stereo speakers at the back makes you wanna wish Santa for one right away.
Is the 2K resolution a bad-ass feature or a gimmick?
Source: bestmobs.com/vivo-xplay-3s-finally-breaks-the-worlds-first-2k-phone/
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Not quite sute if our eye will be able to catch the difference of such a display. Personally I can't tell the difference between a galaxy S3 and galaxy S4...

Check out this video by MKBHD. He has a very good point about this 2K displays.
http://youtu.be/E0_JrUNevdc

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That Vivo is Made under OPPO's umbrella so technically speaking well you know the rest they are the first lol I want this phone so bad just for its advanced audio for wired music I cant find it anywhere I can trust to purchase it so ill wait some time it will be this the S5 or the find 7 another Oppo device! excited for either or mainly this one my last resource will be to ask a college friend who lives in china right now to go look for it for me lol

vivo xplay 3s seller
hey there,
here is the link for a trusted seller,he had problems shipping before but is now using TNT to ship and all is going smoothly,once you click on the vivo button you can scroll down to the bottom of the page and post questions to the seller,he will also put google on it for you before shipping
and i must say it is an awesome device...the antutu benchmark blows everything else out of the water,the only two cons are you cannot replace the battery and no ex sd other than that it just rocks...oh and you have to learn the os because there is no manual for it:good:
http://www.liaow.com/huaweilist.php

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Look out the Chinese are coming

:The Chinese phone manufacterers like Oppo an Huawei are ready to storm the globe and that is great for us customers.Sick and tired Samsung and Apple spliting the cake and upping the prices yearly. It is time for real competition. They no longer soley build cheap and mediocre phones but are capable of building high end and like like you can read belowt he phone with the far best specs now available.
Oppo Unveils World's First 1080p Smartphone
12:00 AM - September 12, 2012 by Tuan Mai - source: Phonearena
Chinese manufacturer to release 5-inch smartphone with a whopping 441 PPI screen.
ZoomWhen you think of smartphone titans the first company that comes to mind may be Samsung or Apple. But despite their record high smartphone sales, neither company has achieved what Chinese phone company Oppo has. After releasing the world's thinnest smartphone and the world's thinnest quad core smartphone, the company is back again with the world's first 1080p smartphone.
Dubbed the Oppo Find 5, the 5-inch smartphone features a whopping 441 pixels per inch (PPI), making the iPhone's 326 PPI retina display look like an Etch A Sketch toy from the 60s. Resulting in a crisp 1920 x 1080 display, the Oppo Find 5 knocks the 5.5-inch Galaxy Note 2 out of the water. Even better, the Oppo Find 5 has just as much beauty on the inside as it does on the surface.
The device is going to ship with Android 4.1 on a quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro APQ8064 processor. To get an idea of how powerful this chip is, the APQ8064 easily beats the Exynos 4412-based Galaxy S III and Tegra 3-based Nexus 7 on a number of benchmarks. Other rumored specs include 2GB of RAM, a 12-megapixel rear camera, 2-megapixel front facing camera, 16GB or 32GB of storage and a 2,500mAh battery pack.
No word on pricing or a release date just yet, but we'll keep you posted. Until then, we'll just have to hope for a global release so we can all enjoy this promising smartphone.
Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Oppo-Smartphone-1080p-Display-Android,17494.html
I`am also interested in the Huawei Ascend Quad D and it`s successsors.
Lets hope 2013 will be the start of a revived playing field and many new players joining so we can have more to choose from at reasonable prices
They used quadrant, how qualified do you think they are to say that the S4 quadcore is "Better" than the Exynos 4412???
How is this post related to the S3?
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How is this post related to the S3?
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As i`am beeing a longtime Samsung user and most of the time satiesfied, it is exciting and more important necessary that when more parties are entering with good smartphones that is good for us consumers. It might keeps the big three (Samsung, Apple and HTC) pushing the envelope and produce even better and maybe more price fiendly smartphones. So this is not only related to the S3 forum but for all android devices forums. I as a consumer want the best in quality/price related phone. That doesn`t have to be a Samsung, HTC or any other device per se.
It's harder to sue a Chinese company for patent theft so the way things are going the Chinese companies might be the only real chance to risk some future innovation.
gee2012 said:
As i`am beeing a longtime Samsung user and most of the time satiesfied, it is exciting and more important necessary that when more parties are entering with good smartphones that is good for us consumers. It might keeps the big three (Samsung, Apple and HTC) pushing the envelope and produce even better and maybe more price fiendly smartphones. So this is not only related to the S3 forum but for all android devices forums. I as a consumer want the best in quality/price related phone. That doesn`t have to be a Samsung, HTC or any other device per se.
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If related to all android move it to general android discussion. Every one should have access to it.
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So years of hard work by major players are not worth considering if a new mobile with a killer spec arrives? Releasing a mobile is one part, reliability and software support is another part.
If these Chinese players can do then I'm sure samsung or any other major players can do the very same
1080p sounds jaw dropping, I really doubt the performance of graphics with that resolution. Do exynos5 or adreno 320 has enough power to do so.? Considering the iPad with powervr graphics I think it might be possible.
《spilled from dragon jellybean rom》
Exynos 5(CPU), Mali-T604 (GPU) has plenty of power to push the 1080P screen, has a huge pixel by pixel ratio it can push (2560X1600 to be exact)
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if everything is good...i ll definitely get one for myself .....
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Himan eye can't distinguish above 300 ppi.
It's an overkill.
Plus it will take an impact on battery.
Um the actual human eye can distinguish up to 1400dpi at smaller distances, don't fall for the urban myth.
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Exynos 5(CPU), Mali-T604 (GPU) has plenty of power to push the 1080P screen, has a huge pixel by pixel ratio it can push (2560X1600 to be exact)
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High End mali will be of t-658 which can push 2560x for sure. It's suitable only for tablets . Also I don't think 300 ppi will be a restriction for human eye
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Chinese stuff tends to sound good on specs but often usability is terrible....
If these specs are true, the oppo find will probably have better specs than the galaxy S4
I remember looking at the Oppo Find 3 around the time of the SGS2, it was a nice looking phone with good specs, but it was more expensive than the SGS2.
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Um the actual human eye can distinguish up to 1400dpi at smaller distances, don't fall for the urban myth.
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dude is there anythin u dont knw abt...i mean..i wudnt be surprised if it turns out that you are the one holding the particle and running inside the particle accelerator !
gee2012 said:
:The Chinese phone manufacterers like Oppo an Huawei are ready to storm the globe and that is great for us customers.Sick and tired Samsung and Apple spliting the cake and upping the prices yearly. It is time for real competition. They no longer soley build cheap and mediocre phones but are capable of building high end and like like you can read belowt he phone with the far best specs now available.
Oppo Unveils World's First 1080p Smartphone
12:00 AM - September 12, 2012 by Tuan Mai - source: Phonearena
Chinese manufacturer to release 5-inch smartphone with a whopping 441 PPI screen.
ZoomWhen you think of smartphone titans the first company that comes to mind may be Samsung or Apple. But despite their record high smartphone sales, neither company has achieved what Chinese phone company Oppo has. After releasing the world's thinnest smartphone and the world's thinnest quad core smartphone, the company is back again with the world's first 1080p smartphone.
Dubbed the Oppo Find 5, the 5-inch smartphone features a whopping 441 pixels per inch (PPI), making the iPhone's 326 PPI retina display look like an Etch A Sketch toy from the 60s. Resulting in a crisp 1920 x 1080 display, the Oppo Find 5 knocks the 5.5-inch Galaxy Note 2 out of the water. Even better, the Oppo Find 5 has just as much beauty on the inside as it does on the surface.
The device is going to ship with Android 4.1 on a quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro APQ8064 processor. To get an idea of how powerful this chip is, the APQ8064 easily beats the Exynos 4412-based Galaxy S III and Tegra 3-based Nexus 7 on a number of benchmarks. Other rumored specs include 2GB of RAM, a 12-megapixel rear camera, 2-megapixel front facing camera, 16GB or 32GB of storage and a 2,500mAh battery pack.
No word on pricing or a release date just yet, but we'll keep you posted. Until then, we'll just have to hope for a global release so we can all enjoy this promising smartphone.
Source: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Oppo-Smartphone-1080p-Display-Android,17494.html
I`am also interested in the Huawei Ascend Quad D and it`s successsors.
Lets hope 2013 will be the start of a revived playing field and many new players joining so we can have more to choose from at reasonable prices
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And it will cost more money then Sammy SGS3
Who knows about quality of Camera, sound, dynamic?
Will see! For now all China phones half a crap
Won't have good dev support= no good
Made in China= everything falls apart when you look at it
Simples!
The problem with the Chinese devices is that they use an annoying version of android like miui, lewa etc. If they just use AOSP with added features and theme they could blow samsung away!
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Made in China= everything falls apart when you look at it
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Where do you think the iPhone is made and 65% of Samsung Galaxy, anything can be manufactured in China to quality standards, if the customer pays the correct cost, pushing down the cost to have it cheaper means lower quality parts.

Impatient for the device of the gods

Of course I'm talking about the Moto x 3rd Gen.I honestly can't wait. I feel like a little kid waiting to open Christmas presents. I seen the leaked render of this device just a little bit ago, It looks great. The picture was pixelated and blurry but you could see the jest of it. The camera, flash and dimple are all lined up in this rounded-rectangle strip on metal on the back. It looks very premium, the front of the phone just simply looks like a streamlined flat AMOLED panel with 2 front facing speakers (at least that's what is seems to be). I guarantee all Moto users are going to be proud of this device. like come 'on 4GB on RAM! and look at that chipset and pixel density. This is going to be a gift from the higher up.
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Rumored specs:
Display
Type: AMOLED capacitive touchscreen, 16M colors
Size: 5.2 inches
Resolution: 1440 x 2560 pixels (~565 ppi pixel density)
Multitouch: Yes
Protection: Corning Gorilla Glass 3
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Platform
OS: Android OS, v5.1.1 (Lollipop)
Chipset: Qualcomm MSM8992 Snapdragon 808
CPU: Dual-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A57 & quad-core 1.44 GHz Cortex-A53
GPU: Adreno 418
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Memory
Card slot: No
Internal: 32/64 GB, 4 GB RAM
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Camera
Primary: 16 MP, 5312 x 2988 pixels, autofocus, optical image stabilization, dual-LED flash
Features: Geo-tagging, touch focus, face detection, panorama, HDR
Video: [email protected], [email protected], HDR
Secondary: 5 MP, 1080p
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Sound
Alert types Vibration; MP3, WAV ringtones
Loudspeaker Yes
3.5mm jack Yes
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Comms
WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, DLNA, hotspot
Bluetooth: v4.1, A2DP, EDR, LE
GPS: Yes, with A-GPS, GLONASS
NFC: Yes
Radio: No
USB: micro USB v2.0, USB Host
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Features
Sensors: Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, temperature
Messaging: SMS(threaded view), MMS, Email, Push Email, IM
Browser: HTML5
Java: No
- Fast battery charging: 60% in 30 min (Quick Charge 2.0)
- Active noise cancellation with dedicated mic
- MP3/AAC+/WAV/WMA player
- MP4/H.264/WMV player
- Photo/video editor
- Document viewer
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Battery
Non-removable Li-Ion 3280 mAh battery
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I wonder why isnt anyone else excited for this...i know i am...!!! Cant wait... goodbye s6! Its either the 3rd gen moto or nexus 5 2nd gen
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Not that much. I'm waiting for next nexus instead like every year. I hope they lower the size of display.
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Not that much. I'm waiting for next nexus instead like every year. I hope they lower the size of display.
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Same. I am more intrigued with the Nexus because of Google I/O:
1. I am certain a fingerprint scanner will be included
2. USB type C. Now that is something to be happy about
3. OIS and all that camera stuff will be in the next Nexus
4. Wireless charging & fast charging. Both of best worlds
5. Having the latest Android OS version. Android M is going to be awesome, I want it. I will consider buying a Nexus this year if rumors of an LG one is correct (or Huawei), depending on price
6. A lot of the specs will be the same as the first post
not enough of an upgrade to get me to buy day one. maybe after the price drop.
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Same. I am more intrigued with the Nexus because of Google I/O:
1. I am certain a fingerprint scanner will be included
2. USB type C. Now that is something to be happy about
3. OIS and all that camera stuff will be in the next Nexus
4. Wireless charging & fast charging. Both of best worlds
5. Having the latest Android OS version. Android M is going to be awesome, I want it. I will consider buying a Nexus this year if rumors of an LG one is correct (or Huawei), depending on price
6. A lot of the specs will be the same as the first post
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Yes, I'm also interested in what Nexus is going to put out this year. I know that's its going to have an outstanding spec sheet, It always does. That fingerprint scanner would be nice, unfortunely i don't think the new Moto X will have it but you never know. It's more than likely that the new Moto X will be guaranteed updates after it's intial release. Hopefully Motorola improves the camera, OIS would be great and they need to work on getting consietent high quality photos. Image processing needs to be improved also. I tryed the Nexus 6 for about a month and it was perfectly fine in preformance but it's too large. I think the next Nexus smartphone should have a 5.5 inch display at most. Wireless charging & fast charging im sure will be in the new Moto X. LG or Huawei huh? Both are great cmpanies. LG with its G4 and Huawei with its P8. My vote is on Huawei. I also seen the new Moto G rumored specs. 2GB of RAM, larger battery, higher MP count, 16GB base model, same 5 inch screen but in 1080p this time around, Better chipset and more. It amazes me how fast technology is evolving, if the new Moto G would of came out last year it could sure contend with some flagship smartphones.
The only thing that stands out for me is the 1080p video capture at 120fps (slow mo). Not really enough for me to want the new Moto X. I'll most likely wait for the price to be dropped before biting the bullet.
In regards to the new Nexus, I'll never buy a Nexus phone again after owning the Nexus 4 and 5 - awfully bad call quality issues and a lack of acknowledgement from Google (poor support). Nexus 6 was just stupid with it's almost 6" display lol. Probably get laughed at trying to hold that thing against my ear!! Anyway I don't think I can do without Moto Voice, it's too good!
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Not that much. I'm waiting for next nexus instead like every year. I hope they lower the size of display.
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Yeah, me too. The only reason I jumped to Moto X 2014 is because of Nexus 6 size. Previously I've always used the Nexus line.
Wutang200 said:
The only thing that stands out for me is the 1080p video capture at 120fps (slow mo). Not really enough for me to want the new Moto X. I'll most likely wait for the price to be dropped before biting the bullet.
In regards to the new Nexus, I'll never buy a Nexus phone again after owning the Nexus 4 and 5 - awfully bad call quality issues and a lack of acknowledgement from Google (poor support). Nexus 6 was just stupid with it's almost 6" display lol. Probably get laughed at trying to hold that thing against my ear!! Anyway I don't think I can do without Moto Voice, it's too good!
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Yeah, the 1080p 120fps slow mo will be great im sure of it. The specs that didn't exaclty stand out but were a little unexpected were the battery life & the RAM. I wasn't expeting such a leep in battery capacity to go from 2300 to 3280 mAh is awesome, that almost a 1000 mAh gain. I was expecting something in the ballpark between 2600-2900 mAh which is still good depending on the display and hardware. I was expecting 3GB of RAM for some reason. Maybe it's becuase the Moto X has always seemed to be 1GB of RAM lower than other flagships that came out during the same time. I guess Motorola is stepping up. As far as the expected changes and improvements i knew that Motorola would improve: the camera, chipset and display resolution. It's kinda unfortunate that the new Moto X will most likely not have expandable storage but at least the got rid of the 16GB variant. I am also gonna wait for a price drop, maybe around christmas or so and yes Moto Voice is beyond helpful, i love it. I think that's the dominant reason why i would choose the Moto X 2014 over the Nexus 6, well that and size of course.
I really hope that the MotoX 3rd Gen will have two models, one as large as the Nexus 6 or MotoX Pro (China). I really loved the MotoX and Nexus 6 and own both, but the Nexus 6 without Moto Display is disappointing. I've considered buying one from China, but I don't know if Google services can be installed afterwards. Anyhow, Motorola is about to grace us with a new device so its smarter to wait it out.
If any if these rumors are true, I'll be a happy camper.
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androtecho said:
I wasn't expeting such a leep in battery capacity to go from 2300 to 3280 mAh is awesome, that almost a 1000 mAh gain. I was expecting something in the ballpark between 2600-2900 mAh which is still good depending on the display and hardware. I was expecting 3GB of RAM for some reason. Maybe it's becuase the Moto X has always seemed to be 1GB of RAM lower than other flagships that came out during the same time. I guess Motorola is stepping up.
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Oh I forgot about the bigger battery. That'll be my other reason to want to switch but not straight away, probably when the price drops.
I don't really care about 4GB RAM at all. I think 2GB is more than enough for what most people would do on a smartphone. I've never ever felt like the RAM capacity is slowing me down or anything.

Buy or not Meizu M5 PRO? Or rather a Nexus 6P?

Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
I want to answer your question by comparing both phones in each category.
Design:
I started with design part because, for me it's very important part. I like meizu pro 5 design much more than 6p not saying 6p is not good but, 2.5D glass with looking similar to Iphone in front is not a bad thing in meizu and better than 6p here. I prefer Fingerprint as a home button on meizu at the front much more than in 6p at the back. ( Not to mention how innovative home button of meizu will change the way of using this phone when you getting used to it and you cannot compare it with any other android phone). Also design of meizu at the back is also more beautiful in my opinion as it's a little similar to htc one series. Also 10g less weight in meizu should be a little more suitable in hand.
Camera:
About camera in meizu it does pretty decent job in good light maybe even better than 6p specially better in detail comparison but, in low light you should either use manual mode or accept quality of auto mod which is not bad but, differently 6p is better but, not much better.
Selfie with front camera is definitely better (more detail) in 6p but, for internet both do good job here.
Processor:
The main problem in 6p is qualcomm 810 processor which is a big no for me specially compare to Exynos 7420 which is arguably the best in the market for now (even compare to karin 950) and you will never feel a hot phone in your hand or lag due to hot temperature of cpu and much more energy efficient than Q 810. (Not fan of Antutu benchmarks but, recently Meizu take the crown from Huawei karin 950 chipset in Huawei Mate 8!)
Softwere:
On the other hand meizu apparently is new to world market and cannot support their phone like google but, in future with custom roms it will be okay I think (do not expect near future!) Meizu does not come with unlock bootloader and apparently there is no way to unlock it and it may take so long to either someone manage to unlock it (very difficult + lack off good developers due to less popularity of meizu and the phone itself) or company give us a way to do it so, do not except support of developers or company like 6p. Meizu will definitely upgrade meizu pro 5 to marshmallow but, time is unknown.
Also if you really like pure android experience which I don't! heavily skin of Flyme OS on top of android in meizu may become a big problem for you. Lack of app drawer or design of home screen or even default apps are not a big deal as you can get a good launchers now a day specially with htc sense launcher and apps but, other part like setting menu and notification drawer and etc will be always the flyme one!
Screen
Comparing the screen, there should not be much differences as both phones using very similar amoled technology and panel. Yes 2k vs full hd but, 2k display of 6p is not as good as samsung new flagships like gs6 or note 5. Brightness of both phones are almost similar. I don't think you will notice the differences here in display part in daily usage because, differences of 2k displays are not very recognizable in human eyes in phones bellow 7" screens. But, if it does for you it's just a little more sharper but, not better in contrast, color and etc.
In 6p you will get gorilla glass 4 which is better when you drop the phone and can manage much more pressure here but, not as good as gorilla glass 3 (meizu pro 5) in scratch resistance part. If you use screen protector no problem here for both phones.
Audio:
Yes 6p has dual speaker in front which is more suitable when watching something or listening to musics with speakers but, meizu on the other hand support Hi-Fi audio so, provide much better quality sound specially when you plug a headphone which 6p was unfortunately poor here.
Hardware/Connectivity/Network/Battery:
Lack of memory support is again a big downside of 6p compare to meizu plus 2 sim in meizu vs 1 in 6p (in meizu 2 sim if you don't use sd card) .
For connectivity both doing great and not very different here. You have more 4g bands support in 6p but, if you don't live in USA you will not loose here. Meizu definitely is much better in battery part as you know so, no more words here. Also meizu charge the battery a little faster than 6p specially if you charge 6p with retail charger in it's package which the plug is weaker than meizu fast charger plug. (No need to buy faster plug in meizu).
Okay I don't know if I left anything else and hope it helps you to choose the best option but, personally I will choose meizu here as you mention the price of 6p I don't think it wrote 200 euro more just for a little better camera, speaker and screen VS it's downs. But, if you cannot live without latest version of android and faster support of google or with Flyme OS of meizu better to go for 6p. ( The only real downside of meizu compare to 6p currently before unlocking the bootloader of pro 5)
DanielGatti said:
Meizu 5 Pro has best processor of Android (Exynos 7420), sd card, nice AMOLED screen with 1080P, great battery (4th on battery life tests this year), and great price also (450 Euros).
But is Meizu....
¿Do you think is a good buy?
Or would be better a Huawei 6P with
Google support for two years and stereo speakers
Better camera and screen
but
Worse battery and processor
No sd
More expensive (200 euros more)
¿Does Meizu give software support with latest Android? ¿Which one you prefer? (you can put other smarthphones on the equation also)
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If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
Kubas_inko_CZ said:
If you look at the prices, i will go for Letv Lemax, the most powerful android phone, that will be out soon and will cost about 530 USD with new snapdragon 820 and with antutu benchmark about 120 000. It have 64/128GB ROM, 4GB ram, QHD dipley, 21 MPX camera, USB 3.0 type C, atc.
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6.33-inch display! wow huge for a phone!
Plus 2 MP front camera is not good for selfie + not amoled screen + 3400mAh battery definitely is not good in 2k IPS LCD display and you should wait at least 3 more months if not more for outside of china; And 530 usd price (price of 32gb with no expandable storage) is unconfirmed and if it cost 530$ it will be in china not outside so, definitely expect 600$+
The only upside is the cpu which we don't know how well it's until it comes out plus OIS in camera. Qualcome did awful job in 810
I've used both and the camera on the Meizu is far better than the 6P.

ASUS ZenFone 3, Deluxe, Ultra - Opinions

Hey guys, now that Asus has unveiled the specs and pricing of Asus Zenfone 3 variants, what do you think?
Asus ZenFone 3 is the most basic model of the three. It has an aluminum frame body with 2.5D Corning Gorilla Glass on the front and back. On the front is a 5.5-inch 1080p Super IPS+ display with up to 500 nits brightness and 77.3% screen to body ratio.
The Zenfone 3 also has a 16 megapixel camera on the back with ASUS TriTech autofocus that combines second generation laser autofocus, phase detection autofocus and contrast detection autofocus to achieve focus in 0.03 seconds.
The handset runs on Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 and has up to 4GB of RAM. There is also a fingerprint sensor on the back.
Asus ZenFone 3 Deluxe is the flagship model. It has a full metal body with no visible antenna lines and 4.2mm edges. It is built around a 5.7-inch Super AMOLED display with over 100% NTSC color gamut and 79% screen to body ratio.
The phone runs on the new Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 with up to 6GB of RAM. On the back is a 23 megapixel Sony IMX318 camera with f2.0 aperture, 4-axis optical image stabilization, and 4K video with the same TriTech autofocus system as on the ZenFone 3.
The ZenFone 3 Deluxe uses a USB Type-C connector with USB 3.0 and Qualcomm Quick Charge 3.0 support. The phone also has a fingerprint sensor on the back. Lastly, there is also a single five-magnet speaker and Hi-Res Audio support.
Asus ZenFone 3 Ultra has a massive 6.8-inch 1080p display with 95% NTSC color gamut support, 79% screen to body ratio, and what ASUS calls Tru2Life+ Video technology that uses a high-end 4K UHD TV-grade image processor. The ZenFone 3 also has two five-magnet speakers, Hi-Res Audio support, and also the first phone to have virtual 7.1 channel surround sound with DTS Headphone: X.
On the back is the same 23 megapixel camera as on the ZenFone 3 Deluxe. The phablet is powered by the Qualcomm Snapdragon 652 with up to 4GB of RAM, and a 4600mAh battery with Quick Charge 3.0 support.
The Zenfone 3 Deluxe can also charge other devices with a 1.5A output. Lastly, there is a fingerprint sensor on the front of the device. All packed in a full metal body with no visible antenna lines.
Prices start at $249 for the ZenFone 3,
$499 for the ZenFone 3 Deluxe, and
$479 for the ZenFone 3 Ultra.
Source : gsmarena
definitely keen on the zenfone 3 deluxe
wouldn't mind the bigger screen ultra but the specs are not as good
I'm more interested in Deluxe variant of Asus ZenFone 3
I learned my lesson from ZF2 and will therefore avoid ZF3 (I personally am not happy with the support ZF2 received).
And no, I don't want to argue about it, I am just stating my personal subjective opinion for the record.
Thankfully the 2nd sim slot is also the sd card slot so I won't be tempted to change. Need more than 64gb and also need 2 sims.
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They all seem good. The regular zenfone 3 is a lot of phone for $249. Yeah, not a blazing fast CPU, but most people use a tiny fraction of their phones processing power most of the time, and the 14nm process should be very energy efficient. Otherwise it is pretty sweet and well specced for the price. The deluxe is a beast. Expensive for ASUS, but for the level of hardware base $499 price is good. The Ultra is certainly niche. Not as powerful in terms of soc, but still no slouch and the audio and video capabilities make it pretty enticing. I voted deluxe, but if I had the money and wasn't pissed off at ASUS for the upgrade farce of the Zf2, would be a toss up between the deluxe and ultra. I'd need to try them in person in the shop before deciding.
Wait so no quick charge on base model?
Don't get me wrong I love my Zenfone 2, even if only after unlocking and flashing CM, but really just a 1080p screen for base and deluxe and a 625 processor on the base, and still just a 3,00maH battery. I think I'd be passing on this phone in favor on the next nexus phones.
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Don't get me wrong I love my Zenfone 2, even if only after unlocking and flashing CM, but really just a 1080p screen for base and deluxe and a 625 processor on the base, and still just a 3,00maH battery. I think I'd be passing on this phone in favor on the next nexus phones.
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I have the same sentiments. Seems like the only major improvement is on the camera. I don't know why glass is considered to be such a major upgrade to design as well, repairability is gonna take a hit. The 625 isn't even gonna compete with any other cheaper mid range offerings having SD 650(Redmi note 3 pro), SD 801 (Oneplus x) and even our very own intel atom z35XX line. The deluxe on the other hand is flagship material but is gonna have a hard time considering cheaper equally or better specs alternatives like ZTE Axon 7 at $450 and the soon to be released Oneplus 3.
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Thankfully the 2nd sim slot is also the sd card slot so I won't be tempted to change. Need more than 64gb and also need 2 sims.
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THIS.. Ohh why would Asus change such a basic yet beautiful option.. Why why why.. What a let down..
Can't wait for Zenfone 3 Deluxe....
I just hope that the battery is good enough.
just hoping that zenfone 3 will have better battery life since its not Intel and having a better display.
And please when it comes out in my country it will rougly same price as zenfone 2 when it launch :angel:
The camera should be also really great...i hope better than Samsung / LG..
I had high expectations of their next ZenFone, but so far I'm disappointed. Not having a separate slot for the MicroSD is a let down for me. I need two working SIM slots AND a MicroSD at the same time. A "basic" version with 128GB would probably make me consider it and not need an SD. The glass body of the basic ZF3 seems impractical and I've never been a fan of glass for a phone's back. (An I the only one who prefers plastic -good plastic- over glass or metal?) The deluxe will cost more than I'm willing to pay for a phone, and will probably be too big (have not seen yet dimensions listed on any site). And the "Ultra" is way too big for me. The only thing I'm not clear is how the GPU on any I'd these versions compares to the G6430 in the ZF2.
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I am a little disappointed that Asus changed the design so much as I love the look of my ZF2. I would prefer the Deluxe model but I doubt I will have the money for it. The base ZF3 would work for me but I am looking at all of my options for my next upgrade. I have a spreadsheet that currently has 15 different prospects laid out. The ZF3 is in the mix but it is not the only one in the running.
Unlike others I am more than happy with my ZF2 from the time of purchase at release through today. I picked up a ZE551KL (ZF2 Laser) from Swappa and am astounded at just how much better my original ZF2 is versus the Laser. While the ZF3 has a Snapdragon 625 vs the ZF2 Laser's Snapdragon 615 I am worried that the ZF3 would be slower than my ZF2.
The deluxe seems nice but in my opinion most people in the market for an unlocked phone aren't looking to spend $500+ for a phone, I know that's out of my budget especially with the lack of support on its previous flagship.
I may buy one but hope that the deluxe doesnt contain a speaker as cheap as the zenfone 2 which i replaced twice. Hopefully its a good speaker.
Any one know the antutu skor for deluxe ???
I read that the 6gb axon 7 is roughly $650usd but the 4gb is listed at 450usd
I'm guessing asus will use similar price point
Although I keep reading that the version being released for 499usd is 6gb/64gb. So fingers crossed that there is 4gb/64gb version a little cheaper and a 6gb/128gb a little more. It will kill me if that price announced in the conference was for 4gb version! Although they were pressing the point of it having 6g ram the whole time before flashing the 499 price tag on the screen.
I don't know asus are confusing!
Anyone want to take a guess?
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Any one know the antutu skor for deluxe ???
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They announced it at the launch https://youtu.be/5hnZ02Zoobg

Mi MAX 2 going to be launched. What do you think guys?

http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max_2-8582.php
no improvement - 6.44" (1080x1920 pixels)
no improvement - 12MP (2160p)
good improvement - 6GB RAM (Snapdragon 626)
slight imprvement - 5000mAh (Li-Ion)
The SOC feels like a downgrade
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big improvement - NFC
Some rumors about a SD 660 chipset. Otherwise I dont know how the 626 compares to 650. Is the camera alot better I might be interested anyway. My wife can get my mi max 1 then
The camera will be a great improvement (Sony imx 378)
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The SOC feels like a downgrade
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Yeah, if that really is the SoC with 3 year old A53-s, its a downgrade.
Keep the price at around $300 for the 128gb version and it will be a steal even with a slightly better soc and camera.
SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.
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SD626 isn't as good as SD652/3 but it has best endurance. With proper optimization, it may lead this area. SD626+5000mAh is definitely much much better.
Also these guys are downgrading SOC to keep costs same. See the way Redmi Note series did.
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It's not about price, it's about supply... Xiaomi is too nobady to get on the 660 wagon. Even bigger and more reputable players on the market have hard times to secure 660 from Qualcomm in quantities they need.
Yes! That's the biggest point, true.
The topper here is SD625+5000mAh phone.
The 626 will get better battery life at the expense of performance, like the Redmi Note 3 vs Note 4 Snapdragon variants. I guess most people won't be able to tell the performance difference but they can definitely tell battery life changes.
The great thing about the 650/652 is that it could be really fast if you wanted it or really efficient. The 615 and 626 don't have that ability because they don't have powerful A72 cores. The 660 would be the best but I doubt that will make it into a lot of phones as it could jeopardize flagship sales... Who needs the latest 8xx SoC when a 66x at half the price is good enough?
I have the 650 soc Max, using it as a mini tablet at home. If the Max 2 have richer duel speakers; better contrast screen and 660 soc. I will likely upgrade, otherwise the current Max is good enough.
Xiaomi Mi Max 2 has been released.
Xiaomi Mi Max 2 Smartphone Main Features:
Display: 6.44 Inch, 1920 x 1080
CPU: Qualcomm Snapdragon 625 Octa Core
RAM + ROM: 4GB RAM + 128GB/64GB ROM
Camera: 5.0MP front camera + 12.0MP 5 element lens, f/2.0 aperture back camera
No Snapdragon 660, only 625
Battery is 5300mAh
http://en.miui.com/thread-617857-1-1.html
i can't believe it, snapdragon 650 to 625 is an upgrade???
it's a huge mistake and very disappointing
also i hoped for a better LCD which is the same
Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....
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Look at the bright side... No need to upgrade....
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Absolutely true Buddy! Let's upgrade next year when Max3 with possibly SD770 will be out.
Beat to attract new comers to huge screen phones not for an upgrade.
http://www.fonearena.com/blog/22103...-1080p-display-5300mah-battery-announced.html
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Relieved to read the specs of this phone. No need to upgrade if you own a Max. On the contrary, buy one when the priced fall a bit as the Max 2 is released. It has a better SoC.

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