http://www.technobuffalo.com/2013/12/08/lg-v510-will-be-future-nexus-tablet-based-on-g-pad-8-3/
"The confirmation comes by way of evleaks, who said the LG V510 is indeed a Nexus device... (T)he device will feature an 8.3-inch 1920 x 1200 display, 2GB of RAM, 5-megapixel camera, 4600mAh battery and dimensions of 216.8 x 126.5 x 8.3mm."
I have to think this is happening, as evleaks is usually spot-on. That gives me a number of thoughts and questions:
This seems to be, hardware-wise, an exact copy of the G Pad 8.3. Other than the screen size, there isn't much difference with the Nexus 7. From what I've seen, the Snapdragon 600 is only a bit more powerful than the S4 Pro. So I have to think that Google won't price it much higher than the 7 ($229/$269). That virtually kills off the G Pad 8.3. *Edit: Never mind what I said about performance. The G Pad kills the Nexus 7 (http://www.gsmarena.com/lg_g_pad_83-review-1004p5.php). But I still think the G Pad is in trouble. See below.
I have to wonder why LG would do this. I think that Google sells the Nexus devices at a minimal profit, just to serve the market and sell more Android devices. So LG won't be able to compete on price. Are they hoping that their software adds enough value to sustain demand for the G Pad 8.3? Even if they cut the price to $299 (which seems to be the way things are going), I think the Nexus brand will attract most buyers.
Does it matter to us what happens to sales of our device? If the hardware is the same, won't it be easy to port the new Nexus's software (including the kernel)? Doesn't that basically make the G Pad a Nexus?
The moniker "V510" may mean the new device is a step up from the G Pad. Might the new Nexus arrive sporting the Snapdragon 800? I know that there were rumors that the G Pad would be outfitted with it, and LG's public explanations for their decision were rather weak (It doesn't need it. It would make the device too hot.) This would certainly differentiate the new Nexus from the 7...
So should this news, if true, have us scared or elated?
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One thing it won't have is removable storage. That is one of the reasons I bought the GPad in the first pace, instead of a 2nd gen Nexus 7.
I read somewhere v510 will have LTE so basically it will be exactly like v500 except of this...
I think kernel and roms from this "nexus 8.3" will be compatible with our device thanks to some mod by our beloved devs
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I think the rumors are true, but I still don't understand why LG would do this. Why come out with the G Pad 8.3 if Google is going to follow up with the same device? I would think that the Nexus would devastate sales of the G Pad.
I guess we are just a bunch of guinea pigs.
The question is: When will this be released?
Maybe another 6 months away for all we know, as there hasn't been any "official" announcement.
They prob gave the tab to Google as it may seem more lucrative for LG since the sales of the G Pad wasn't as good as they thought it would have been.
Look at it this way for LG:
Sell it by themselves = sell less, but earn higher profit margins
Sell it to Google = Sell More but earn less profit margins
Both ways still win, and profit wise I'd think the Google Avenue sounds a lot better.
Good thing is, if it goes to Google, then we will most likely see a lot more cases be released!
This could be a good thing for us. If they are making a G Pad with nexus software then we can easily port the roms over and have a fully functional nexus rom with no bugs. This could be very good news for us because we will have 4.4. Personally I don't see this happening but it would be cool.
Hope they don't make drastic changes in internal hardware, if this is true.
Somebody sent me the link to that service manual entry several weeks ago, but asked me to keep it quiet. The link is real, but it doesn't absolutely prove that it will turn out to be a Nexus 8.
Seems like a real possibility, though. I agree that it could mean that we will get some Nexus 8 roms that could be easily ported to the G Pad.
And it doesn't mean that we're guinea pigs. LG might have produced the G Pad before they sealed the deal with Google.
It might explain why their marketing in the US had between so lackluster, though
I'm guessing that might be a reason the Kit-Kat-update was announced, but no date was given. The Nexus 8 could get released at the end of Q1 2014 and announced in january. Nourmally me guess would be before or after the CES, but since the Nexus TV is expected to be announced at CES, the Nexus 8 could be an additional announcement. that's all just speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me. The IR blaster would be something I would miss, in addition to the microSD slot. I'm pretty sure Google would remove it, since they they don't need it in their eco-system, as long as the Nexus TV is not sporting IR.
echnolon said:
I'm guessing that might be a reason the Kit-Kat-update was announced, but no date was given. The Nexus 8 could get released at the end of Q1 2014 and announced in january. Nourmally me guess would be before or after the CES, but since the Nexus TV is expected to be announced at CES, the Nexus 8 could be an additional announcement. that's all just speculation, but it wouldn't surprise me. The IR blaster would be something I would miss, in addition to the microSD slot. I'm pretty sure Google would remove it, since they they don't need it in their eco-system, as long as the Nexus TV is not sporting IR.
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Good points about the IR blaster and the sd slot. It could turn out that those of us with a G Pad will have the best of all worlds; G Pad hardware advantages with Nexus 8 firmware possibilities. Guess we might not get an LTE capability, but I won't miss that too much.
I read the news earlier today and I find them very positive for us pad owners. Entering the nexus ranks has three benefits: faster upgrades, longer support, attention of more developers.
I can't believe that the nexus 8 will be lte only. My guess is we are already holding something very close to the wifi n8. Minus sd, minus ir, minus 60€=n8.
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I read the news earlier today and I find them very positive for us pad owners. Entering the nexus ranks has three benefits: faster upgrades, longer support, attention of more developers.
I can't believe that the nexus 8 will be lte only. My guess is we are already holding something very close to the wifi n8. Minus sd, minus ir, minus 60€=n8.
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Those of us who picked up the G Pad for ~$250 really made out like thieves. Assuming a Nexus device is launched based on the G Pad, I can't see it being priced that low. That's less than the 32gb Nexus 7. My only fear is that it will come with the Snapdragon 800 (or 805) to further differentiate it from the 7. I assume that means that kernels and ROMs will be less portable.
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PS My tablet should arrive any minute! :victory:
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PS My tablet should arrive any minute! :victory:
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Still waiting on mine... Let us know how it goes for you!
I'm in the lucky $259 set, so there's no way this isn't a good deal. I feel that in the new year this will be a frequent discount for the G-Pad. As for the N8, all the more power to them, even if they upgrade the processor to an 800 (not unlikely at this stage, but equally likely they'll use the 600 to save money IMO) the devs ought to still have a great platform to ROM themselves silly.
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Still waiting on mine... Let us know how it goes for you!
I'm in the lucky $259 set, so there's no way this isn't a good deal. I feel that in the new year this will be a frequent discount for the G-Pad. As for the N8, all the more power to them, even if they upgrade the processor to an 800 (not unlikely at this stage, but equally likely they'll use the 600 to save money IMO) the devs ought to still have a great platform to ROM themselves silly.
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I hope so I currently have $264 saved up so Im waiting for any good deals. If none i will just save up some more. Is there a thread that list all ongoing sales ?
Last I saw it is still listed on newegg for $279
And if this does become a Nexus 8 it would only help G Pad owners... As long as there are the same internals used
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QPair has just been updated to support LG-V510.
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KitKat Sources
KitKat Sources for V510 on LG Server:
Can somebody interpret them?
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KitKat Sources for V510 on LG Server:
Can somebody interpret them?
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The files are named:
LG-V510(G-Pad 8.3 Google Play Edition)_Android_KK_V510_10d_Kernel.tar.gz
LG-V510(G-Pad 8.3 Google Play Edition)_Android_KK_V510_10d.Android.tar.gz
V510_README.txt
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I guess that says a lot ^^.
V510_README.txt :
1. Android build
- Download original android source code ( Kitkat 4.4_r1 ) from http://source.android.com
- Untar opensource packages of LG-V510(G-Pad 8.3 Google Play Edition)_Android_KK_V510xxx_Android.tar.gz into downloaded android source directory
- And, merge the source into the android source code
- Run following scripts to build android
a) source build/envsetup.sh
b) lunch full-eng
c) make -j4
- When you compile the android source code, you have to add google original prebuilt source(toolchain) into the android directory.
- After build, you can find output at out/target/product/generic
2. Kernel Build
- Unzip using following command at the android folder
- When you compile the kernel source code, you have to add google original prebuilt source(toolchain)
into the android folder.
( add prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.6/bin/arm-eabi- to PATH )
a) Download google original prebuilt source(toolchain)
$git clone https://android.googlesource.com/platform/prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/arm/arm-eabi-4.6
b) $cd kernel
c) $export ARCH=arm
d) $export CROSS_COMPILE=$(android platform directory you download)/android/prebuilts/gcc/linux-x86/arm/arm-eabi-4.6/bin/arm-eabi-
e) $export KERNEL_DEFCONFIG=palman_defconfig
f) $make palman_defconfig
g) $make
- After build, you can find the build image(zImage) at arch/arm/boot/
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Related
The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...ime-pie-release-date-news-and-rumours-1091500
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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That's awesome. You should totally make a thread about it....
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Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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i feel a hint of "sarcasm" in what you wrote!
LOL
The nexus S is unlikely to get the next major version so this thread serves no purpose but to disappoint many people.
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The countdown thread for JB was much fun! So lets make a new one for the yet to be announced 5.0 any news or rumors concerning the new Android version can also be posted here. So what do you guys want to see in the next release?
http://www.itechpost.com/articles/4361/20121007/android-4-2-key-lime-pie-rumored.htm
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...key-lime-pie-10-things-we-want-to-see-1091500
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I'd love to see the responsiveness of wp7. I tried my friends Samsung Omnia phone with WP7 and I was impressed. It was so fast and smooth. However I wouldn't use WP7 because I can't mod it
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Wow! Thank you for this thread! Can you please start countdown threads for 6.0 and 7.0 too?
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Will do! :highfive:
Even if nexus s isn't supported it will be by the community here on xda plus I'm betting most of us are on two year contracts (well I am anyway) and waiting to upgrade to the newest nexus when it comes out (soon)
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Who knows?! A Nexus is a Nexus after all.
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I hope google to continue support future version of android for nexus s. Most new devices are dual core or quad cores, with > 1G ram.. I dont think the new androids should only target for a high ended hardware spec. The NS is still a good "low end" demo device.
Its not really a good low end device spec wise anymore either.
These mobile devices are on what I think Anand refers to as hyper Moore's law. Which basically means the improvements on the mobile SoC are taking place a really rapid rate at this time. The difference between what a current gen chip and a two year old chip can do is huge
We are just now approaching the point where the chips are truly getting really powerful and aren't going to need to be leapfrogged by the next chip 6 months down the road. Example is the s4 pro and the next gen arm15 cores. Those chips are so powerful that they will be able to cut it for years no problem. Just how desktops have been for a couple of years.
The verge has a little piece up now on a HTC device with a 5 inch 1080p 440ppi display
There is a big deal from the software. Running stock jelly bean on the Galaxy Nexus was faster than touchwiz from S3. Single core iPhone4 and Lumia is pretty smooth to me (for the most part), taking OS differences aside.
That HTC device has been known for a while, (thats what you get for reading the verge), but I'm more interested inthe Oppo Find 5. Although I have doubt the later will be cyanogenmod supported. As for HTC, 1080p with Sense is still Sense, and you lose your warrenty rooting it and time too. Otherwize I would like a 1080p device. Though the LG Optimus G has S4 Pro and 13mp camera matches the Oppo Find 5 so its less compelling now.
With that aside I wouldn't mind a non-oversized phone with Nexus freedom. I'm looking at the Blaze by T-Mobile just getting CM10, but doesn't look like its a popular phone among devs, being Qualcomm S3 and all. I'm looking at the S3 mini too, though the form factor is ideal, it looks like a lazy attempt for Samsung to milk off their S3 popularity, for its expected retail price I'd rather get a Galaxy Nexus.
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The HTC device has been rumored forever. There where not any demo's / announcements prior to it being shown yesterday in Japan.
Its kind of a lackluster though, 16gb, non-removable battery, 8mp, no-microsd, and as I mentioned, Sense, process of unlocking and rooting...
Aside from the 1080p, I think phones like the Note2 and Optimus G has more features to offer. I'm still waiting to see a press release of the Oppo phone to see if all the specs are true though. Again, I'm bias.
Hopefully the multiple nexus rumours are true and the HTC one is built with the j butterfly blueprint. Stock android on that would be freaking awesome. I am doubtful though.
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If we don't get a new version, I think we'll get a better optimized JB. Unless they go to 5.0..
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How about our devices
Still get update from google after JB???
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I'm trying not to think about an upgrade.
I've really enjoyed every update, except 4.0.4 giving me a weird power button issue that a clean install and 4.1.1 fixed.
I literally just flashed 4.1.2 on, and AGAIN it feels like my phone is a bit faster and snappier.
I'm going to treat my Nexus S like my G1....keep updating until it until it grinds to a halt.
Before that happen, I think your power button would stop working first.
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According to Jean-Baptiste Queru of the AOSP, the xoom and nexus aren't supported.... "There is no support for 4.2 on Nexus S and Xoom. Those devices should
continue using 4.1.2."
later, he says he cannot comment on the future of those devices. What does this mean for us?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1951841
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Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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Hmm I feel the Xoom would run 4.2 fine I think it is a marketing ploy to make people upgrade my Xoom still flies on 4.1 hopefully modders can help out as I don't really wanna up date
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I think they're working on it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1885269
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unofficialy it will eventually come and it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it...it's not a big jump from 4.1.2 to 4.2
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it will run as smooth as nexus 10 because xoom has the capacity and hardware for it
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
The one feature from 4.2 that I really wanted is multi user support. It was an obvious omission from tablets right from the beginning.
What are the chances of fully activating this feature in 4.1.2, seeing as it already has the underpinnings under the surface?
Yes, it's sad, but those that say it's a "marketing ploy" just need to realize how old the Xoom is and how much work it takes to port these new releases to devices. Money doesn't grow on trees, and neither do man-hours. Once the 4.2 branch started happening and the Nexus 10 hardware was finalized it became Google's standard 10-inch tablet internally. The guys who would have been doing the port internally in Google probably have N10s on their desks and their Xooms are collecting dust in some drawer. That's the way the world works.
That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
Either way, if it doesn't hit AOSP, I'll either sell it to get some dough for a N10 (my mom has been talking about buying it from me) or lend my support to the porting process during the holiday break. The multi-user mode in 4.2 would be very useful on the Xoom.
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Don't kid yourself. The Xoom shows its age on 4.1.2 as it is. Compare the performance to a Nexus 7 or Galaxy Nexus and you can see the difference in speed. Just because the Xoom has the hardware to support the latest version, doesn't mean its going to keep up with devices with fresh hardware. Its coming up on 2 years as it is, which means a lot when there's new, better hardware coming out every ~6 months.
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dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
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dude dont be a ****ing noob, its not the "core" that matthers.
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Thats a bit of a hostile response, don't you think?
And if by "core," you're referring to the SoC, yeah it kinda does matter. The tegra 2 is a tad outdated, its architecture being a big part of it (A9). The Tegra 3 was a nice upgrade on Nvidia's part, with the Samsung Exynos 5 being even better than that. I'm sure someone with even more technical expertise could explain more in detail on the differences, but the architecture itself is a good indicator.
Now on to personal experience. I've put my Xoom alongside a Nexus 7 and my Galaxy Nexus, all running 4.1.2 and yeah, the Xoom is noticeably slower. I can't wait to see the Nexus 10's performance in person. No one here is saying the Xoom is **** or slow or whatever. But it is, gasp, slower than devices with hardware that is fresh and not 2 years old. Newer technology is better, who knew?
So yeah...no offense but given the delightful way you went about disagreeing with me, I'd say you were projecting just a tad.
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That being said, if you look back to ICS, the 4.0.1 code dropped... and no Xoom support. Then the 4.0.2 code dropped... and no Xoom support. It wasn't until 4.0.3 that the Xoom gained AOSP support. I wouldn't be suprised to see the Xoom supported in a 4.2.2 (or later) release. The Nexus 4 isn't even supported in AOSP yet, for goodness' sakes! It will probably be someone's 20% time project and it will happen eventually.
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The difference with those instances and now is that the Xoom was projected to get all of those, it just took a bit of time for it to hit AOSP. According to the google groups statement, the Xoom is slated to stay on 4.1.2 (I forget the actual quote). Now of course, that could mean, as you say, that it might just be a while for it to hit AOSP, but I think that's being a bit hopeful. Hopefully we'll get an official word on it soon but I think thats about it, at least with regards to AOSP.
And honestly, the Xoom had 18+ months of official support. For those that remember, 18 months was what Google wanted manufacturers under the Android Update Alliance to go by for supporting devices. So they've met their own target and then some with regards to both the Xoom and the Nexus S.
It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
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It would be nice for the Xoom to have 4.2 support, but even if it doesn't happen, its been a fabulous 2 years, right? Because I think it has
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It has been a fabulous 2 years, we'll still get 4.2 support, just unofficially
AOSP not supporting Xoom
No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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No a very smart move by Google, me thinks, in not supporting Xoom after 4.1.2 ( Bless the custom mod gurus!!!). I know in my case I am going Windows Surface. Heres why, I just updated my 6 year old notebook to W8, and it flies.. new lease on life. If Google think I am buying a new tablet every 2 years, Stop the train, we have arrived at looney (google) central!!!!. Long live the custom rom(ers)
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The thing is, 2 years is actually...kind of a lot relative to the other first gen 10" tablets. The galaxy tab 10.1 took forever to get ICS and was put at EOL after that (back in June/July I think). Asus has handled the Transformer series pretty well; the OG Transformer received a timely ICS update and I believe was updated to 4.1, not sure if they're going past that. And finally the Acer A500 I think met a similar fate as the Galaxy tab, ending with 4.0.
So that puts the Xoom at one of 2 of the 4 Honeycomb tablets circa 2011 (were there any other notables?) that made it all the way to 4.1. Not too shabby.
Not shabby at all. A shame though that the reason for not supporting is a time limit instead of a hardware thing.
Phones changed a lot since nexus one to ICS
Not much changed hardware wise since Xoom and now IMO
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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As I type, somebody is building 4.2 for the G1. Look, we can take anything aosp throws at us and make it work on Xoom, to one degree or another. It becomes a matter of performance. At some point, a previous aosp build will just be better for Xoom than the newest build.
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
Just found in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997434 that the system partition on the Xoom is rather small-could this be the reason that Xoom fell from AOSP support and didn't get all of the JB features?
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So does this meanTeam Eos is finished with rom support for the Xoom?
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Does any one know when we will get upgrades to the LG non GPE g pad?
Or is it possible to install the GPE 4.42 upgrade on non GPE G Pad?
Thanks in advance.
Yes there's already a post about it. Search.
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Does any one know when we will get upgrades to the LG non GPE g pad?
Or is it possible to install the GPE 4.42 upgrade on non GPE G Pad?
Thanks in advance.
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I actually contacted LG regarding this the other day. They put me in contact with an 'LG g pad expert' who told me that it was unlikely that V500 would see any updates beyond 4.2.2, but that they would keep the LG G2 current (obvious). I was like, 'uhhhh, shouldn't it be easy since the gpe has the same specs and there is already 4.4 kitkat for it?'. He went on to explain to me that the OS development team responsible for the gpe was separate from the one that was responsible for the original g pad (V500) and that they (original developers) were being left out of the loop on everything regarding the new updates. The old devs were from LG and the new ones are from Google I think - I may have interpreted him incorrectly as he was difficult to understand... but I think this was the jist of what he was saying.
The upgrade to 4.4 broke my GPS completely. I did a factory reset to go back to 4.3 and then overnight it automatically updated to 4.4 again. After that the GPS works again.
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The upgrade to 4.4 broke my GPS completely. I did a factory reset to go back to 4.3 and then overnight it automatically updated to 4.4 again. After that the GPS works again.
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Please explain how you have 4.3 and 4.4 on your gpad
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there is no official update at the moment for 4.3 or 4.4.2. Only way is to install a custom recovery and then a custom rom. Cyanogenn mod 11 released a snapshot version yesterday
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there is no official update at the moment for 4.3 or 4.4.2. Only way is to install a custom recovery and then a custom rom. Cyanogenn mod 11 released a snapshot version yesterday
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So what is lucien talking about
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Canadoc said:
So what is lucien talking about
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he is talking about a custom rom or maybe the gpe edition? There are no official updates atm and i find it kind of hard for an official update to break your gps
Thought maybe he meant a gpe rom that he got working
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I actually contacted LG regarding this the other day. They put me in contact with an 'LG g pad expert' who told me that it was unlikely that V500 would see any updates beyond 4.2.2, but that they would keep the LG G2 current (obvious). I was like, 'uhhhh, shouldn't it be easy since the gpe has the same specs and there is already 4.4 kitkat for it?'. He went on to explain to me that the OS development team responsible for the gpe was separate from the one that was responsible for the original g pad (V500) and that they (original developers) were being left out of the loop on everything regarding the new updates. The old devs were from LG and the new ones are from Google I think - I may have interpreted him incorrectly as he was difficult to understand... but I think this was the jist of what he was saying.
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I very, very much doubt LG would kill support for their only tablet (outside of the GPE) as soon as it was released. If this thing gets stuck on 4.2.2 it'll be the last LG product I ever buy. Granted, I'm on 4.4.2 thanks to developers, but still. It would be very stupid of them.
There have been some rumors on sites that it will get it this quarter. Don't know how reliable anything is and will just wait and see. If it doesn't get an update I will end up rooting and flashing but I hope it does get an update because I like the LG interface and extras.
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There have been some rumors on sites that it will get it this quarter. Don't know how reliable anything is and will just wait and see. If it doesn't get an update I will end up rooting and flashing but I hope it does get an update because I like the LG interface and extras.
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A few people have spoken to LG about this and they currently have no plans to update the stock ROM to 4.4.2. Your best bet would be to root and flash it.
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I very, very much doubt LG would kill support for their only tablet (outside of the GPE) as soon as it was released. If this thing gets stuck on 4.2.2 it'll be the last LG product I ever buy. Granted, I'm on 4.4.2 thanks to developers, but still. It would be very stupid of them.
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I agree with you completely - I won't do business with them in the future either, but as I stated before, I contacted them and this is what they told me (that they prob wouldn't do updates). I think they are going to let the V500 supply dry up and only the V510 will be available from then on out. If that's the case, the user base of the V500 will be relatively small so they might not feel that its worth it to keep it updated for a small group of people.
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A few people have spoken to LG about this and they currently have no plans to update the stock ROM to 4.4.2. Your best bet would be to root and flash it.
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Who have they talked to? The people who would typically answer a phone or email are unlikely to know. They will know of any potential update when or if LG is ready to release one just like anyone else. Until or if that happens, they are going to say no plans and would probably be instructed to say no plans.
Unless someone has a real inside source, I would be leery of any information coming from Joe blow at LG.
Regardless, I am sure I will be flashing it eventually anyway. I know myself too well to think I won't.
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Me thinks that if they don't have updates what they might do is merge updates with gpe and just allow apk installs for some of the lg specific features
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Me thinks that if they don't have updates what they might do is merge updates with gpe and just allow apk installs for some of the lg specific features
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I don't know man.. I think LG could just leave it as is. Since I mean.. Blue stripes, 7 LED's on white background with low brightness.. It just seems like there's been so many issues with this tablets screen that.. Well.. Why not release something new and take care of the issues?
Hasn't LG been known for leaving ppl out of the fun? Release the phone, move on, if you know what I mean.
With that said, I dealt with the screen and I don't notice any troubles at all, but not every one feel that way. I mean.. The boxes aren't sealed in half of the stores.. Man this tablet has had a pretty poor launch from LG's standpoint.
What I don't understand is why Google took it in at all with all these screens and such. Shouldn't they be pushing for like.. REAL quality? Gah, not that it's not quality.. It's just not Nexus standard with all these things on the screen. I dunno dude. Something just tells me that this tablet isn't gonna be as huge as I expected before I got it myself. If Google starts developing on the GPE all I can hope for is that ppl find a way for us v500 ppl to port over and keep on using this beast tablet. Cause let's face it. All tablets have issues, these are just a bit more.. Visual.. But fixable/ignorable/circumstanced I'd say.
The problems with this tablet are tiny compared to most of the devices that Google have released.
Check the forums for the devices that covers the first 3 months of release.
I waited 6 months before I bought the original n7 because of all the QC issues.
And also bear in mind that the actual sales figures for Google devices is just a small drop in the Ocean, compared to the big boys.
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I don't know man.. I think LG could just leave it as is. Since I mean.. Blue stripes, 7 LED's on white background with low brightness.. It just seems like there's been so many issues with this tablets screen that.. Well.. Why not release something new and take care of the issues?
Hasn't LG been known for leaving ppl out of the fun? Release the phone, move on, if you know what I mean.
With that said, I dealt with the screen and I don't notice any troubles at all, but not every one feel that way. I mean.. The boxes aren't sealed in half of the stores.. Man this tablet has had a pretty poor launch from LG's standpoint.
What I don't understand is why Google took it in at all with all these screens and such. Shouldn't they be pushing for like.. REAL quality? Gah, not that it's not quality.. It's just not Nexus standard with all these things on the screen. I dunno dude. Something just tells me that this tablet isn't gonna be as huge as I expected before I got it myself. If Google starts developing on the GPE all I can hope for is that ppl find a way for us v500 ppl to port over and keep on using this beast tablet. Cause let's face it. All tablets have issues, these are just a bit more.. Visual.. But fixable/ignorable/circumstanced I'd say.
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Lol go look at nexus 7 2013 forums. Google doesn't care about quality control for the most part in my opinion. Its a major factor why I decided to get this.
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The problems with this tablet are tiny compared to most of the devices that Google have released.
Check the forums for the devices that covers the first 3 months of release.
I waited 6 months before I bought the original n7 because of all the QC issues.
And also bear in mind that the actual sales figures for Google devices is just a small drop in the Ocean, compared to the big boys.
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Lol go look at nexus 7 2013 forums. Google doesn't care about quality control for the most part in my opinion. Its a major factor why I decided to get this.
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I see your points guys. Just from having checked the earliest 3 pages on the Nexus 7 (2013) General forums I've found several reports on dead pixels and dust under the bezel/screen.
I subtract my statement. To some degree. I still stand firm by the fact that I don't understand why Google would choose a tablet that has been reported to have like.. Cohesive issues with the screen and that it is up to peoples "nit picking" if they wanna keep it or not.
One thing is to have Asus produce a tablet, test some devices and then release it and THEN find out the screens and the damn assembly of the tablets has been flawed as fck, not to mention the seemingly bad functioning android 4.3 Stock Nexus 7 ROM. - Another thing is to decide to re-release a branded 8 inch tablet as a Google device even after it has been receiver with such big variation by the masses.
With all the devices that were being swapped for new ones already, I don't see how Google would think they'd actually make a lot of money on selling this device. Wouldn't it have been more clever to wait around and see if something better came along? Of course the fact that the LG G Pad 8.3" falls in line with the low cost Google devices is of course a reason worth considering as well, in terms of branding. It just doesn't change that this tablet is unstable on the consumer market since many people thinks of the screen as the most important thing on a tablet, and I will agree with them since you're looking at it and it will show all mistakes to you at all times (when you choose to look for them.)
Isn't there a difference between creating a device and then finding the flaws after production and re-releasing a device you already knew was having issues that a big part of the community was rather unsatisfied with to begin with?
- Sorry for the long answer guys. And I agree with you on the fact that Google prolly doesn't care that much about quality control since all these issues are floating around in the Nexus forums. So, I'm sorry for the first post. This one is simply just me thinking about the last part here.
First of people on these forums myself include d are the worst nit pickers. 99% of buy public would either not notice or care of what we complain about.
GPE edition is likely due to face there is a partnership with Google and lg. The last 2 Nexus phones are made by LG.
Overall it is a good tablet. It would cost them nothing for current users to be Allowed to move the software top sane add gpe version if they decide not to continue support.
Long before then I am sure we will have a rom with the best of both
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So, as everybody in the android world knows, the nexus 6 and 9 were announced along with 5.0 (Lollipop). The nexus 9 looks like a promising tablet and with stock Lollipop right out of the box (of course! It's a nexus) it should cause a few of us to pull out our wallets. A lot of gpad owners are probably feeling a bit envious, epecially if you just recently purchased it and are afraid it wont get any Lollipop treatment; However, I wouldn't get too jealous.
With the announcement that the nexus 4, 5, and 7 would get the update came another small detail. All google play edition devices would receive the update as well. As far as I know, this means GPE available in the play store currently AND in the past (gpad!).
The gpad GPE is certainly a great device and deserves 5.0. Here's to hoping it stays alive.
Plus it shouldn't be too hard to port over the GPE rom to the regular gpad as well. I'm fairly optimistic about this, but what do you guys think?
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So, as everybody in the android world knows, the nexus 6 and 9 were announced along with 5.0 (Lollipop). The nexus 9 looks like a promising tablet and with stock Lollipop right out of the box (of course! It's a nexus) it should cause a few of us to pull out our wallets. A lot of gpad owners are probably feeling a bit envious, epecially if you just recently purchased it and are afraid it wont get any Lollipop treatment; However, I wouldn't get too jealous.
With the announcement that the nexus 4, 5, and 7 would get the update came another small detail. All google play edition devices would receive the update as well. As far as I know, this means GPE available in the play store currently AND in the past (gpad!).
The gpad GPE is certainly a great device and deserves 5.0. Here's to hoping it stays alive.
Plus it shouldn't be too hard to port over the GPE rom to the regular gpad as well. I'm fairly optimistic about this, but what do you guys think?
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Actually its impossible to port the GPE rom as KitKat was never successfully done. Best bet is just waiting for the Developers to produce a great rom. Very satisfied with my g pad. Apart from pressure from consumerism why would I want a nexus 9. What can it do that the g pad can't??????
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Actually its impossible to port the GPE rom as KitKat was never successfully done. Best bet is just waiting for the Developers to produce a great rom. Very satisfied with my g pad. Apart from pressure from consumerism why would I want a nexus 9. What can it do that the g pad can't??????
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easily updated by Google directly, excellent front facing speakers, HTC's superior display technology.....
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easily updated by Google directly, excellent front facing speakers, HTC's superior display technology.....
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All of which are things we are being told we need. If packaged the same most people would be able to tell the difference in screen and sound but we are constantly bombarded with PPI stats and device specs that have no real bearing in the real world.
Its easy to want the nexus 9 it looks amazing but when I think about it the g pad does everything I need and the spec is far from being outdated. And I use my pad everyday for work
Just my thoughts.
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Ready for L on my GPE...let the games begin!
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Ready for L on my GPE...let the games begin!
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Do you think it will come to gpe device?
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Do you think it will come to gpe device?
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Yes...hopefully!
I think LG has long since moved on to other, but not necessarily better things, which is a pity as the G-Pad is still my favorite device and one which I use for work every day. Lollipop on this thing would certainly make it even better.
Though it's a great dream to wake up one morning to hear that LG will be updating the 8.3 to Lollipop along with the newer G-Pads, their track record isn't that great (and being left out of the current round of Nexus devices doesn't help any). We can always hope for a rockin' 5.0 ROM in the coming months and extend our G-Pads that much longer!
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I think the 8.3 has the better chance of all LG tablets to get Lollipop - after all, it still is the top dog in LG's talet line. The recent trio are definitely lower end.
LG mum so far
http://www.engadget.com/2014/10/19/android-lollipop-roundup/
According to GSM Arena, V500 will get Lollipop...
http://www.gsmarena.com/all_the_android_phones_getting_50_lollipop_update_so_far-news-9980.php
My guess is since the gpad 8.3 was listed under google and not under LG that the GPE edition will get 5.0. I'd love to see 5.0 on the V500 and I would give stock a chance again if the sdcard problem was also fixed. However LG's silence is concerning. If they want to continue to get my money they need to support their products. Now if they did something crazy and fully unlocked the bootloader on the v500 so we didn't need to use the Loki work around I'd be quite happy. I'm still pleased with my purchase and wouldn't go back and change it though...
Hmmm.... my Galaxy S4 is also listed under Google... So I have high hopes for my devices...
Well, that has a GPE as well, so it's more than likely that version of the phone if you have it that'll be updated to Lollipop:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/when-and-where-to-get-android-5-0-lollipop-100266192494.html
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Ready for L on my GPE...let the wait and frustration begin!
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My guess is since the gpad 8.3 was listed under google and not under LG that the GPE edition will get 5.0. I'd love to see 5.0 on the V500 and I would give stock a chance again if the sdcard problem was also fixed. However LG's silence is concerning. If they want to continue to get my money they need to support their products. Now if they did something crazy and fully unlocked the bootloader on the v500 so we didn't need to use the Loki work around I'd be quite happy. I'm still pleased with my purchase and wouldn't go back and change it though...
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you are right, as those listed under google are gpe products
nevertheless we can port the gpe kernel to v500 and have aosp lollipop on the device
So G3 and G2 is confirmed. G pad is soon 12 months old, if lg don't update the g pad v500 to lollipop I will never buy a lg device again (except a nexus).
I just sent in a support query asking them about the v500 and v5.0, I got back the typical nonresponse response (we have nothing to announce yet... etc.)
Unofficial builds of CM12 have started rolling out for other devices. That will be our best hope. LG are awful with updates
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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/7...xus-7-is-reportedly-not-getting-android-m.htm
Just saw this, not sure if this news is reliable but that would kind of suck..
Far from credible. Honestly if it doesn't come from Google or Android Police don't beleve it. Actually don't even trust Google just AP.
Someone sent us a tip saying “goodbye Nexus 7, no Android M for you”, and they also said they are close to the Android M development...
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Thats the source lol.
I can see maybe the 2012 nexus 7 being dropped from M update.
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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The nexus 7 2012 is fine but if google stops updating the 2013 version I'm gonna bust their asses my Xperia Z1 from 2013 even has a chance of getting M...
atm android 5.1.1 still sucks on my N7 so I hoped that M would fix my issues!
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Would be bad if Google dropped support for a 1 1/2 yr old device (not looking at release date) . More fragmentation and might give Apple fanboys more to brag about .
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
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http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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They promised at least 18 months of updates after they stopped selling a device in the play store, iirc
Edit: here's the ap article, it looks like we might not get M
http://www.androidpolice.com/2015/0...e-with-an-update-guarantee-for-nexus-devices/
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
I'm not very concerned. Even if Google doesn't give us the update, it probably won't be very long before CyanogenMod comes out with it. I'm willing to bet that this tablet continues to get community support for another couple of years.
Without a CM Flo or deb device maintainer I doubt CM based on Android M would appear officially for us. Maybe other ROMs that have flo maintainers/devs will bring Android M to our devices after making 5.1.1 Lollipop binaries and stuff compatible with M
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Hmm ... Not sure if Andoid M classifes as a update or as patch . IMHO its both ,since 5.1 is sluggish and tad buggy .
No updates would be bad and it sucks . One might think why invest in a expensive Nexus device when updates are so short lived . Apple fanboys might have some thing to brag about .
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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The only thing keeping me on Android is the ability to root, secure my devices, and retain full control of the file system - you know, administer the device. This is slowly being taken away, and when it does, I will probably jump ship. Apple makes quality hardware, and iOS isn't awful. It just doesn't give you any easy methods to truly administer the device without jumping through hoops.
In a world where you are a guest on your own device regardless of OS, Apple will come out the winner.
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Besides the point you mentioned , Android does have other benefits ... But I was talking more in terms of Nexus devices . If high end devices & Nexus devices (from the google stable) dont get updates for longer , it would be crappy .No point investing in an expensive Nexus device..
If they stopped selling the N7 2013 in October 2014, 18 months of updates would end April 2016 I think.
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Despite rumors circulating about the chance of official M for flo, I doubt that it will be left out. After all, Google recently announced monthly updates for a list of nexus devices that includes flo. Even if those updates came only in the form of patches for L, I'm sure unofficial support will be there. Even my old galaxy nexus has unofficially made it to the latest revision of lollipop...
I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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I believe we will get it. It just turned 2 and its only like 3 month's older than the nexus 5. It'll be the last major update but it'll still get it. The 2 year guarantee is just that, a guarantee it doesn't mean they'll necessarily cut off devices at that point
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Totally agree, 5.1.1 runs smooth on my N7 so I see no reason from a hardware perspective that the N7 shouldn't get M. I think it will be last release so lets hope its a good one.
When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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When I bought my wife's 2013 Nexus 7, it was mid-2014 and I thought for sure it was my only chance of owning a Nexus device, living in the US. I bought it for me, but then I discovered I don't like tablets very much. Fortunately, my wife loves it, so I wiped it and made it hers.
From 4.2 to 4.3, 4.4, 5.0, and now 5.1, it's had four major updates. That's more than any Android phone I've owned has gotten. First got one, second got none, third one got three, fourth one got one so far. Samsung, Motorola, and Samsung again on US Cellular, and HTC on Verizon. All flagships but the first one. It seems to me that I really care about updates on my phones, but on the tablet, it doesn't matter. The tablet doesn't feel like a mission-critical device. It feels like a media device. Had the price gap not been so wide, I wonder if I shouldn't have just gotten an iPad. Not that the Nexus 7 is bad. I just found that a tablet didn't do anything for me. It's just a bigger screen.
If Google is going to cut Nexus updates off after just two years, that's better than a lot of OEM phones get. Though, I do wonder, why did the Nexus 4, released in 2012, get the M preview, but not flo, released in 2013? Or am I mistaken? Was the Nexus 4 abandoned as well?
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M developer preview was available for the nexus 5,6 and 9, unfortunately the nexus 4 didn't make the cut, as you quite rightly said, it was released in 2012, which is a bit more than the two year update garuntee
I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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I want marshmallow, any custom rom for flo?
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Marshmallow hasn't been released so there is no AOSP Source made public from Google. ROMs will appear once Android 6.0 and it's Source Code is released (rumored by the end of this month)
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