Can anyone explain what causes a galaxy to have a MF3 firmware. Mine has that at the end of the CSC codes and the other two codes in that list. It seems that specific coding in y firmware is preventing me from getting the Jellybeans 4.3 update from AT&t (THE MK2.) i CANNOT GET IT VIA kIES OR VIA ota. Can anyone offer some insight into this or point me to somewhere I can get some info regarding it. I'd also like to know if there's a [safe] fix for this or a way to change the firmware [without rooting it]. Just need some into. Thanks.
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Can anyone explain what causes a galaxy to have a MF3 firmware. Mine has that at the end of the CSC codes and the other two codes in that list. It seems that specific coding in y firmware is preventing me from getting the Jellybeans 4.3 update from AT&t (THE MK2.) i CANNOT GET IT VIA kIES OR VIA ota. Can anyone offer some insight into this or point me to somewhere I can get some info regarding it. I'd also like to know if there's a [safe] fix for this or a way to change the firmware [without rooting it]. Just need some into. Thanks.
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Read the "pinned" threads in the general and q & a sections.
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Read the "pinned" threads in the general and q & a sections.
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Scott, are you a moderator here? Your red bold statement in your signature is a little condescending. If someone does in fact read the pinned threads first, but doesn't understand them, they can't ask for help according to your logic. You are demanding they read and understand before asking for help. If everyone understood everything we wouldn't need forums would we. Take a chill pill dude.
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Scott, are you a moderator here? Your red bold statement in your signature is a little condescending. If someone does in fact read the pinned threads first, but doesn't understand them, they can't ask for help according to your logic. You are demanding they read and understand before asking for help. If everyone understood everything we wouldn't need forums would we. Take a chill pill dude.
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The answer was sufficient and without any form of attitude or condescending tone. You have no room to be telling people what to do.
If the OP does not understand what they are reading, they need to make it obvious. From reading the OP, they are not doing the research. It is pretty obvious. I have been here long enough, I am experienced enough and have experienced enough to know when someone is not helping themselves.
Until you are more than just a junior member, I suggest you not tell people to chill when they do not provoke any member and provide the correct answer.
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Scott, are you a moderator here? Your red bold statement in your signature is a little condescending. If someone does in fact read the pinned threads first, but doesn't understand them, they can't ask for help according to your logic. You are demanding they read and understand before asking for help. If everyone understood everything we wouldn't need forums would we. Take a chill pill dude.
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You should read the rules YOU agreed to when you signed up. If you don't like it, take it up with the site Administrator.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263
All members ARE expected to read and search before making posts. Providing people with the information I posted is the correct thing to do as ALL people are expected to read the "Pinned" threads before asking questions that have already been answered several times. The answers (and many more) are there. If you don't like it, maybe you should start another development forum with your own rules? And I personally don't care if you think repeating the forum rules is "condescending. People like yourself are part of the problem because you don't direct people to the information they need (and should have already read) instead you "question" those that do so, Replying to people like you is a waste of time, but, unfortunately, it has to be done from time to time so people can see the correct way of doing things. Have a good day.
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mf3 rooted SHOstock 2.3
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You should read the rules YOU agreed to when you signed up. If you don't like it, take it up with the site Administrator.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263
All members ARE expected to read and search before making posts. Providing people with the information I posted is the correct thing to do as ALL people are expected to read the "Pinned" threads before asking questions that have already been answered several times. The answers (and many more) are there. If you don't like it, maybe you should start another development forum with your own rules? And I personally don't care if you think repeating the forum rules is "condescending. People like yourself are part of the problem because you don't direct people to the information they need (and should have already read) instead you "question" those that do so, Replying to people like you is a waste of time, but, unfortunately, it has to be done from time to time so people can see the correct way of doing things. Have a good day.
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I read the rules back in 2010 when I signed up. I have no problem with the forum rules being repeated in signatures, I think it's fine for those who wish to do so. Modified forum rules in signatures, is another story. This becomes an interpretation of the rules. As far as me being part of some problem, you already directed the OP to the pinned topics, should I have concurred in my post as well? I simply asked you if you were a moderator and thought your signature was poorly worded thus giving it a condescending undertone. I may have gone overboard telling you to take a chill pill which I would retract, but after you suggesting that I start another development forum, and that people like me are a waste of time I am not so sure now. I guess I am more of a rule 10 guy then a rule 1 guy.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do so. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably quite a few people with less experience than you, who could benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
What scott is saying is that, this question you presented has been asked not 50 times, but 100 times, and starting another thread with a repeated question is not needed, he gave you the location to read on the subject, so if you have questions then it should be addressed within that thread, that is the whole reason they were created. And 99% of your answers have been answered already. Not to direct this at you, but alot of people just start a thread to get a quick answer to which they are to lazy to read and see that the answers are there already.
His signature is just a reminder to people that, hey, look before you ask.
I see nothing wrong with Scotts answer.
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What scott is saying is that, this question you presented has been asked not 50 times, but 100 times, and starting another thread with a repeated question is not needed, he gave you the location to read on the subject, so if you have questions then it should be addressed within that thread, that is the whole reason they were created. And 99% of your answers have been answered already. Not to direct this at you, but alot of people just start a thread to get a quick answer to which they are to lazy to read and see that the answers are there already.
His signature is just a reminder to people that, hey, look before you ask.
I see nothing wrong with Scotts answer.
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The issue wasn't his answer it's his signature. I sort of feel the same way. I don't even see a problem with the text, bit of an a hole move to have it huge and in red. Especially since it shows up on all his posts. So even following a thread that is going good, if he is actively posting you have to see it every few posts for no reason. It jumps out at you too. As the first guy mentioned it would be different if he was a mod, but just some user, no matter how long they have been or how active they are, to not only take it upon themselves to be so serious about it, but to shove it in everyones face everywhere because the huge red text just jumps out on a page, is taking it a bit to far.
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is there such a thing as a software that can play background music while
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is there such a thing as a software that can play background music while
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Been discussed a ton of times already. Please use search and don't post new threads until you have searched completely.
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Been discussed a ton of times already. Please use search and don't post new threads until you have searched completely.
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How bout instead of just telling everyone to use the search you hint them on what to look for as far as the name of software that you seem to be aware of....
im curious too. is there any software like that
I also would like such a software...
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How bout instead of just telling everyone to use the search you hint them on what to look for as far as the name of software that you seem to be aware of....
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Because this is a development thread. Where people develope programs and provide assistance on them. Its not the yellow pages. No one here works for you. We are not your secrateries. New threads like this clog up the forum and make it difficult for those of us who use search. Take some time to read the forum rules.
Here is the hint. Top of this page to the right is a "Search" button. Its just below your name. Use it to search the contents of your original subject line of this thread. If you can copy/paste the http address of your search result to prove to me you did your due dilegents, but still cant find your answer, I will help you learn how to use search properly so you don't continue to post new threads. But at this point I don't think you have used more than 2 minutes of your time searching on your own.
CG
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326590
I guess do unto to others as they do unto you. This might be a development forum not thread.
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Because this is a development thread. Where people develope programs and provide assistance on them. Its not the yellow pages. No one here works for you. We are not your secrateries. New threads like this clog up the forum and make it difficult for those of us who use search. Take some time to read the forum rules.
Here is the hint. Top of this page to the right is a "Search" button. Its just below your name. Use it to search the contents of your original subject line of this thread. If you can copy/paste the http address of your search result to prove to me you did your due dilegents, but still cant find your answer, I will help you learn how to use search properly so you don't continue to post new threads. But at this point I don't think you have used more than 2 minutes of your time searching on your own.
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Wow, never before have I seen such "jerk" behavior at xda deverlopers. I know the person should have searched and I'm not discounting that fact, but there is NO reason to jump down someone's throat with that tone. Sorry, I'm a Japanese and I ever saw how much loathing and hatred went into your post. Next time, please do more courteous behavior... if not, I hate to think of how people will treat you.
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How bout instead of just telling everyone to use the search you hint them on what to look for as far as the name of software that you seem to be aware of....
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The reason people tell you to search is because this site, like any other activity has rules. One of them is to READ and SEARCH to find the answers yourself before you post a question that has been answered in numerous other locations. While some people may be overly aggressive in their suggestion that you use the search function, it does not make their point any less valid. There are a lot of people on this site, and all of them are volunteers. Nobody gets paid to be here. When you decide that you're gonna clutter the forum with threads and posts that have already been answered very thoroughly in easily searchable locations then it just makes it more difficult for people who actually do know how to use the site properly to find anything. So in the future, if you have an interesting idea (which you did) then do some looking to see if maybe somebody else had that same idea and post your thoughts there. That way everyone who is interested in that idea can go to one place to follow any development that happens there. Otherwise you are basically saying to all the people who put a lot of time in here, that you think your time is more valuable than their's. Which puts us in this perpetual cycle of people who don't know anything complaining because the people who do know the answers want them to learn how to find the answers rather than just giving them the answer.
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Wow, never before have I seen such "jerk" behavior at xda deverlopers. I know the person should have searched and I'm not discounting that fact, but there is NO reason to jump down someone's throat with that tone. Sorry, I'm a Japanese and I ever saw how much loathing and hatred went into your post. Next time, please do more courteous behavior... if not, I hate to think of how people will treat you.
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see my post above, the tone was no nearly as hostile as you took it, and as you spend more time on this site you will understand why some people sometimes go overboard in their frustration. I appreciate your effort to encourage civility toward each other when we are posting.
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the tone was no nearly as hostile as you took it,
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Yes it was.
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Yes it was.
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Then you don't read enough threads around here, as flaming goes (especially for people who don't search before starting new threads) it is pretty mild.
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Then you don't read enough threads around here, as flaming goes (especially for people who don't search before starting new threads) it is pretty mild.
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Still rude. But he was really helpful to the guy.
by helping people who don't follow the rules, you only encourage such behavor.
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by helping people who don't follow the rules, you only encourage such behavor.
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Agreed!! Way to put it.
bartybet said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=326590
I guess do unto to others as they do unto you. This might be a development forum not thread.
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Search the entire forum. In fact google the interenet for the question I posted in that thread. It is no where to be found. And it was a development idea posted in a development thread after all that searching had been done. Your not comparing apples to apples. In fact there is no comparable comparison.
Anybody got an answer to that thread let me know b/c it still hasn't been solved!!!! LMFAO!!
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Search the entire forum. In fact google the interenet for the question I posted in that thread. It is no where to be found. And it was a development idea posted in a development thread after all that searching had been done. Your not comparing apples to apples. In fact there is no comparable comparison.
Anybody got an answer to that thread let me know b/c it still hasn't been solved!!!! LMFAO!!
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I guess by bumping the thread three months later you didn't get the hint that no one was going to answer. Might be your attitude.
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I guess by bumping the thread three months later you didn't get the hint that no one was going to answer. Might be your attitude.
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No jackwad I researched at a time that S2U, Picture Flow Software, Contact Programs, and Music Players being reworked was in its prime. So, I knew that it was being overlooked. Really dude, you don't want to continue to go tit for tat with me!! You weren't even a member at that time!!!
Just agree that new threads are reserved for new ideas and program that have not been done before. And that we should discourage all the lame threading.
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Just agree that new threads are reserved for new ideas and program that have not been done before. And that we should discourage all the lame threading.
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I can do that. If you can be less of a dip**** towords those that might.
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I can do that. If you can be less of a dip**** towords those that might.
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I was less of a dip**** and it continued to happen. At least this is getting some attention that may make a noticable difference of noob's continuing down the same old path of ask questions first, search as a last result.
It would be great if the Moderators would put a sticky at the bottom of the sticky posts for this forum titled "How to Use Search before you post a New Thread" since noob's aren't even taking the time to read the forum rules. While their at it make the title of the sticky thread alway stay BOLD even if no new posts are made in it.
Hey Mods!!!! What do you think of that idea???
Curious G
help me how to root my HTC dream with build number DRD20 , i still confused please
Save yourself the embarrassment and leave the forums now.
Use the search tool or go to the Android Development.
Have you not read the thread about respecting all members?
You owe him an apology and a helpful hand to direct him to the right path.
It's only fair...
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Save yourself the embarrassment and leave the forums now.
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Have you not read the thread about respecting all members?
You owe him an apology and a helpful hand to direct him to the right path.
It's only fair...
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I don't owe anyone an apology.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=438
Read the FIRST item in post 2.
Telling him to leave isn't respecting him...
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
2. Be polite and respect your fellow xda-dev user.
There is no need for cursing, flaming, racism or personal attacks. There are a lot of different nationalities on this forum all with different cultures, this means that no matter what you're like, you'll have to adjust to people that are most definitely not like you. It will gain you a lot of respect if you help to keep the peace. It's disrespectful and therefore not permitted to create Alias Member names in an attempt to deceive others.
3. Post only using a clear subject and message.
You're most likely to receive a helpful answer to your question if you use a short subject title that describes your problem and a message that explains in detail what your problem is and what you've tried to solve it.
4. Use the English language.
We understand that with all the different nationalities not everyone speaks English well, but please try. If you're really unable to post in English use an online translator, You're free to include your original message in your own language below the English translation.
5. Post a message only once.
As a large forum we don't need unnecessary clutter, You're free to edit your message as you like, so if you do not receive an answer revisit your message and see if you can describe your problem better. Not everyone is online at the same time, it might take a while before you receive an answer.
6. Do not post warez.
If a piece of software requires you to pay to use it, either pay or find your cracks and serials somewhere else. We do not accept warez nor do we permit any member to promote or describe ways in which Warez, cracks, serial codes or other means of avoiding payment, can be obtained.
7. Do not spam.
If you wish to advertise a product, contact us we provide ads. But do not post it in the forums, it will be removed and you're likely to receive a ban.
You are however allowed to sell used goods like your own device, parts of your device or accessories for your device in the marketplace forum, please read the rules there before posting. (This rule includes signatures, if you use a signature it will appear in your post)
8. Donations.
We appreciate all donations to xda-developers.com, it keeps our forum online and well maintained. As a user you're allowed to ask for donations in your signature as a thank you for your hard work. However donations up front are not allowed, this forum is about sharing, not about getting paid to do something, that's what your job is for.
9. Don't get us in trouble.
Don't post copyrighted materials or do other things that will obviously lead to legal trouble. If you wouldn't do it on your own homepage, you probably don't want to do it here either. This does not mean we agree with everything the software piracy lobby try to impose on us, it simply means you cannot break any laws here, since we'll end up dealing with legal hassle caused by you. Please use common sense: respect the forum, its users, and those that write great code.
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
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No where does that say you don't have to apologize for disrespecting...
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Telling him to leave isn't respecting him...
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I'm quite certain I said read the FIRST point. It clearly states
1. Search before posting
Use one of our search functions before posting, whether you have a question or something new to share, it's very likely someone already asked that question or shared that news.
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And then, (I can't find it exactly right now), when you ask for help, you should be mentioning any attempts to what you have done, not just come here for freebie helps and then just bounce.
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I'm quite certain I said read the FIRST point. It clearly states
And then, (I can't find it exactly right now), when you ask for help, you should be mentioning any attempts to what you have done, not just come here for freebie helps and then just bounce.
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Pretty sure I did bud...
Regardless, you should eat your own advice. Just sayin. Respecting others in turn lets them respect you...
It's more along the lines of where it says I have to apologize.
Honestly - this post is better off locked or removed, as it is clearly off topic and is leading to flaming and unnecessary disputes.
Yay, another thread that has nothing to do with the OP.
I'm not flaming. I was at first curious to why you felt the need to be rude to him when he asked you a question when instead, you could have directed the way for him and it would have been solved.
You guide me to read the rules and yet, it seems like you yourself have not quite understood them.
Now I don't mean any disrespect in any shape or form. I'm just trying to get the noobs back by getting you/everyone to be a little bit more nice around here.
There is no need for the comment, you should leave the forums now.
What gives you the right to tell me to read the rules when you yourself don't follow them? It doesn't make any sense.
Coming from mmus.us, I am disappointed to come to this. Expecting the help and kindness I received from there was obviously a mistake.
To all members who are reading, I am sorry for any offense taken from this, but the disrespect given within these forums is out of hand at times and I feel the need to speak up...
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help me how to root my HTC dream with build number DRD20 , i still confused please
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It depends on which direction you want to take mostly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=448
this is where all G1/DREAM ROMs reside and it's up to you to choose which one.
There are also guides that will teach you how to root, unroot, etc...
I personally chose CyanogenMOD for the simple fact that it was really easy to get everything setup and done.
If CyanogenMod is the road you want to take, then go here
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php/Main_Page
This wiki will guide you through the ENTIRE process and them some.
The odds of you messing anything up are really slim with this road.
Hope this helps you after all the wait...
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I'm not flaming. I was at first curious to why you felt the need to be rude to him when he asked you a question when instead, you could have directed the way for him and it would have been solved.
You guide me to read the rules and yet, it seems like you yourself have not quite understood them.
Now I don't mean any disrespect in any shape or form. I'm just trying to get the noobs back by getting you/everyone to be a little bit more nice around here.
There is no need for the comment, you should leave the forums now.
What gives you the right to tell me to read the rules when you yourself don't follow them? It doesn't make any sense.
Coming from mmus.us, I am disappointed to come to this. Expecting the help and kindness I received from there was obviously a mistake.
To all members who are reading, I am sorry for any offense taken from this, but the disrespect given within these forums is out of hand at times and I feel the need to speak up...
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Don't take me personally, but I've seen a lot of people that come here, register, post their main question that has been answered a million times, and then just leave.
If they actually put the effort into searching for the solution, as opposed to having someone hold their finger, the "person" will learn a lot more.
My "harshness" was brought about my Mr. 1 post - figuring that he's just like the rest. If I'm wrong, and he turns out to be the next moderator, fine...
But chances are - he won't.
You have every right to speak up, after all it's on online forum. There is no one stopping you, or impeding on your right to speak - so long as it follows the rules.
Now, in response to your post of "assistance" - there have been issues with DRD20 being rooted. Again, from searching, you'll see that the SG versions are having some difficulty being rooted from stock 1.6
It seems as if the "Gold Card" method has to be used to solve the DRD20 issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498142&highlight=drd20&page=2
Well thank you and this is all understandable. I see your point and agree. But with the experience I have from mmus, my way of thinking has changed.
I try to help even if it is a 1 post member because if I show the effort to help, it makes me look better and I might even learn something new in the process as well.
Take this for example,
akapoor said:
there have been issues with DRD20 being rooted.
It seems as if the "Gold Card" method has to be used to solve the DRD20 issue:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498142&highlight=drd20&page=2
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I did not know that...
The way I see it is how will you know if you didn't do anything about it?
But that is me.
You are you.
I'm not saying to change your ways. I merely suggest to think about it...
maan I really wanna see a thread get wrecked, last one was hilarious
I have no direct experience with MMUS, so I cannot account for that; however - I'm sure you had your "thinking changed." Each forum (as we can agree) helps to educate about something, whether that be old news or something new.
In fact, I'll be taking a look on those forums as well.
You mentioned:
But the way I see it is how will you know if you didn't do anything about it?
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Put that in the perspective of the OP. Referring back to 2 posts above, the OP [most likely] put minimal effort into finding a solution. If he "didn't do anything about it," "how will [he] know."
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maan I really wanna see a thread get wrecked, last one was hilarious
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Hmm maybe when one of the others gets on, oh wait all but like 3 are banned :/
But I guess that's what happens when you try to have fun
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Over at Aod (link in sig) most threads get wrecked (When in off-topic), I suggest you join and check it out
I see your point and it is one that has been made many times over on this forum. I know. At one point in time, I also had a hard time finding the search button on the top bar of almost every forum I went to. I also, didn't like to do an "endless" scrolldown of the topics. But as every other high posting member, I learned.
It is frustrating to deal with, I know. But guidance only takes about 5 mins max to type out and then you move on to the next thread.
Sorry for the off-subject conversation here...
Or dud!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/sprints-htc-hero-update-to-android-2-1-finally-coming-on-may-7/
What baffles me the most about your post is that the source on the Engadget article links back to a post on the very forum you are posting on. Why on earth did you feel it necessary to post another thread for an article based on a thread on these forums, in this section????
(They source this post in case you were wondering....)
I am amazed engadget sourced it! wow....
guess to get guys like u mad. hahaha
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What baffles me the most about your post is that the source on the Engadget article links back to a post on the very forum you are posting on. Why on earth did you feel it necessary to post another thread for an article based on a thread on these forums, in this section????
(They source this post in case you were wondering....)
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Because his post was about engadgets reaction and not the post on here?
DevinXtreme said:
What baffles me the most about your post is that the source on the Engadget article links back to a post on the very forum you are posting on. Why on earth did you feel it necessary to post another thread for an article based on a thread on these forums, in this section????
(They source this post in case you were wondering....)
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RUDE **** like this keep decent people away. The idea of a forum is people have to interact and contribute. If everytime someone posts something and some **** post his opinion on that post the website will eventually die....that pisses me off.... what a ****.
I think the issue here is that there is an already active thread about the Sprint 2.1 release date. The mods already combined threads together.
Apparently, the release date of the 2.1 image is causing some people to lose patience and tempers. Not trying to excuse it, just offering a possible explanation.
As a short timer on these forums I find it hard using the search to determine how many threads are out there already and if someone posted the information already. This is a very active forum and there are so many posts I am sure there is a lot of duplicate information. Being a moderator must be a full time job on active forums like these. To be safe I usually do not post anything new for fear of someone overreacting and sh*tting down my throat (and I assume that's for the best to prevent duplicate postings). I let the experts do all that, but it's too bad someone can't share information without someone acting like an ass.
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As a short timer on these forums I find it hard using the search to determine how many threads are out there already and if someone posted the information already. This is a very active forum and there are so many posts I am sure there is a lot of duplicate information. Being a moderator must be a full time job on active forums like these. To be safe I usually do not post anything new for fear of someone overreacting and sh*tting down my throat (and I assume that's for the best to prevent duplicate postings). I let the experts do all that, but it's too bad someone can't share information without someone acting like an ass.
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Share all you want. Just make sure there's not 50 threads about it already. It's fairly easy to use search (even though you say you have a problem with it) for '2.1 release' or 'sprint 2.1' or something. It's all in your search terms. People don't tend to get pissed off unless there have already been a LOT of threads posted...and until recently the mods weren't doing a whole lot of moderating so we'd have 10-15 posts on Sprint 2.1 rumors...which is why each time someone opens a thread like that they get jumped on.
skantman69 said:
RUDE **** like this keep decent people away. The idea of a forum is people have to interact and contribute. If everytime someone posts something and some **** post his opinion on that post the website will eventually die....that pisses me off.... what a ****.
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It doesn't help when people like you make an obvious troll post like the one I quoted. If you have a problem with someone, take it PM's, we don't want to read about it.
skantman69 said:
RUDE ***** like this keep decent people away. The idea of a forum is people have to interact and contribute. If everytime someone posts something and some ***** post his opinion on that post the website will eventually die....that pisses me off.... what a *****.
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mikehager66 said:
As a short timer on these forums I find it hard using the search to determine how many threads are out there already and if someone posted the information already. This is a very active forum and there are so many posts I am sure there is a lot of duplicate information. Being a moderator must be a full time job on active forums like these. To be safe I usually do not post anything new for fear of someone overreacting and sh*tting down my throat (and I assume that's for the best to prevent duplicate postings). I let the experts do all that, but it's too bad someone can't share information without someone acting like an ass.
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1. Read This.
Not only that but, unlike you, he didn't use inflammatory language or resort to name-calling. I fail to see how his post was rude.
2. The point is, he didn't even have to do a search, he just needed to pay attention. The article he linked, links right back here...to our very own forum.
This is a developer's forum folks. Even noobs are expected to be proficient in certain areas. Like searching. If you don't like the search feature provided by XDA, use Google and specify XDA as the search location. In most cases, if you didn't spend an hour searching, you didn't give due-diligence. Think that sounds like too much work? Hey, post away! But don't get upset when someone points out your negligence. I am not picking on you, op, and I certainly am not trying to be hostile towards you or anyone else. There have been a lot of posts lately attacking forum users who are simply trying to get others to follow forum rules. Remember, knowing how to click the search button and knowing how to properly search are 2 different things.
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Rule 2 tells you all you need to know about how to interact with others on here.
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Just cleaned this thread up. Please keep on topic and avoid the rude and abusive posts.
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God I love having Mods pay attention to us now!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!
People learn by being taught in a proper manner. Excuse my offensive language but why do people need to be a smart butt to someone that doesn't know. I'm sure since one of the guys first post and interaction is met with rudeness. I guess there needs to be a huge disclaimer on top of this website that says noobs please take your business elsewhere. Remember everyone here is not perfect and everyone was once new to this website. I see this kind of stuff all the time.
One if the beauties of being human is that we have the ability to learn from the observation of others, not just direct, personal experience.
tejasrichard said:
1. Read This.
Not only that but, unlike you, he didn't use inflammatory language or resort to name-calling. I fail to see how his post was rude.
2. The point is, he didn't even have to do a search, he just needed to pay attention. The article he linked, links right back here...to our very own forum.
This is a developer's forum folks. Even noobs are expected to be proficient in certain areas. Like searching. If you don't like the search feature provided by XDA, use Google and specify XDA as the search location. In most cases, if you didn't spend an hour searching, you didn't give due-diligence. Think that sounds like too much work? Hey, post away! But don't get upset when someone points out your negligence. I am not picking on you, op, and I certainly am not trying to be hostile towards you or anyone else. There have been a lot of posts lately attacking forum users who are simply trying to get others to follow forum rules. Remember, knowing how to click the search button and knowing how to properly search are 2 different things.
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Sigh. Thank you. I was going to post about exactly this, but didn't really have the motivation. My post wasn't meant to be rude or flaming, but asking a direct question. I'm still incredibly new to these forums, but I lurked before I finally joined and knew what to expect. I search, and I've been successful in finding my answer all but once. And even when I did post my question, it just turns out I wasn't searching hard enough. The reason I bring all this up is that all the threads posting with the same information, especially when they have to do with 2.1 rumors (which bogs down a search for ANYTHING related to the 2.1 releases).
Point is, I wasn't intending to be rude, but was met with rudeness anyway. The people complaining are just as bad as the people they're complaining about.
skantman69 said:
People learn by being taught in a proper manner. Excuse my offensive language but why do people need to be a smart butt to someone that doesn't know. I'm sure since one of the guys first post and interaction is met with rudeness. I guess there needs to be a huge disclaimer on top of this website that says noobs please take your business elsewhere. Remember everyone here is not perfect and everyone was once new to this website. I see this kind of stuff all the time.
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The OP has 279 posts (as of this posting) and has been a member since February 2010. This is far from "one of his first posts." :/
Hello! Recently, as many of us have noticed, the moderator of the Vibrant forums here on XDA has decided to consolidate all of the sticky threads in to a single thread. I, and several other members of XDA, have some major concerns with this including:
Former stickies are mixed in with development threads
Stickies are more difficult to find
Stickies receive less attention, and therefore there is less incentive to update them
Since having easy to access information reduces the number of off-topic and question posts over in development I put forth a suggestion to our moderator, that the users of XDA decide if the stickies are returned or an alternative solution is devised! If there is a majority in favor of changing the presence of the stickies mmelo has stated that he will abide by the will of the users.
If anyone has any alternative solutions besides the ones I have posted in the poll please come forward with them!
Being someone who has two of these stickies, the ones geared for those who need the most help... And the amount of time I spent... And for all those who post questions in them that I answer...
I'm a little offended and upset. I mean first there were stickies that had absolutely no business being stickied and now lumping them all together (now I have no clue if someone posts a question).. Whatever, I've taken a break from it for a few days and it's been nice. Perhaps this is my sign to just quit trying to help so much.
Perhaps we just need a new bibrant moderator too though.
Edit: I guess my suggestion is:
How it was before (before meaning not including threads that should not be stickies)
a new mod, someone who has a pulse on the vibrant and speaks English (isn't that a guideline for being a mod)... I mean absolutely no disrespect, just being honest.
My suggestion was to remove threads like the Nero fixes and stuff and the Samsung numbers.
Not your threads but I guess he didn't exactly understand,but this being a mobile website and all the stickies were filling up most of the screen.
There's plenty positives about this and negatives, but the statement its harder to find is BS.
U guys tell newbies to search anyways and searching will only lead to the same thread.
Find a post where I said search, AND didn't provide an answer.
It is harder. If someone posts a question, I have no clue now unless my thread happens to be on page 1.
The only positive I see is that you don't have to scroll down as much...
You know if you guys don't like what he is doing to the vibrant forum you can always go above him and let the administrators know.
A mod is just an employee and they aren't perfect, some even abuse their powers at times.
Ultimately if the forum members aren't happy then let the people above the mods know.
I personally think there were too many stickies to begin with, but sticking them all in one, including the bible and noob guide was a bad idea. Just my opinion that is all.
As someone who searched first and asked later. I miss the previous setup.
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I liked it the way it was tbh. Was very helpful to have all the info in one area, now i have to search for everything than bookmark it.
ZachLL88 said:
I liked it the way it was tbh. Was very helpful to have all the info in one area, now i have to search for everything than bookmark it.
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Search for everything? You guys are over exaggerating it.
Its all in 1 sticky.
At the TOP of the page.
S15,you want to answer questions on it thread? Bookmark your thread and check it once in a while. Your not going to get 500 questions at a time and lose answering questions.
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Being someone who has two of these stickies, the ones geared for those who need the most help... And the amount of time I spent... And for all those who post questions in them that I answer...
I'm a little offended and upset. I mean first there were stickies that had absolutely no business being stickied and now lumping them all together (now I have no clue if someone posts a question).. Whatever, I've taken a break from it for a few days and it's been nice. Perhaps this is my sign to just quit trying to help so much.
Perhaps we just need a new bibrant moderator too though.
Edit: I guess my suggestion is:
How it was before (before meaning not including threads that should not be stickies)
a new mod, someone who has a pulse on the vibrant and speaks English (isn't that a guideline for being a mod)... I mean absolutely no disrespect, just being honest.
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s15 did put a lot of work into his thread. I tried searching for something and IT IS harder to get an answer. I say we put it how it was. Especially for the new people here.
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s15 did put a lot of work into his thread. I tried searching for something and IT IS harder to get an answer. I say we put it how it was. Especially for the new people here.
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Why are you saying search???
Its the first thing up there. WHY ARE YOU SEARCHING?
clicking 1thing to get info on 5 other threads isn't that hard.
Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
inetquestion said:
Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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It's a yes or no question. The answer is no. You are asking for a maybe, when it's a no. If all the threads say it's unrootable, what makes you think making another thread will change that fact? Read the following if you want to know why:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62378933&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62380538&postcount=23
inetquestion said:
Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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Root mostly comes from sources off of XDA. Very few attempt solutions in threads on XDA because of the constant "are we there yet?" posts. Most developers work in private chats.
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It's a yes or no question. The answer is no. You are asking for a maybe, when it's a no. If all the threads say it's unrootable, what makes you think making another thread will change that fact? Read the following if you want to know why:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...3&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...8&postcount=23
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Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
inetquestion said:
Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62378933&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62380538&postcount=23
Your thread adds no value. You said yourself, that you have searched, and found your answer, yet still seek another because you simply don't like it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62378933&postcount=19
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62380538&postcount=23
Your thread adds no value. You said yourself, that you have searched, and found your answer, yet still seek another because you simply don't like it.
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If its no value for you, why not stop reading it? If you just want to be an ass, please proceed.
Do you believe something you read on the internet today remains true for all eternity?
Contrary to the evidence you've provided, I believe you are not that dumb... (am i wrong?)
Forums exist for a reason, and things change over time... its like magic.
inetquestion said:
If its no value for you, why not stop reading it? If you just want to be an ass, please proceed.
Do you believe something you read on the internet today remains true for all eternity?
Contrary to the evidence you've provided, I believe you are not that dumb... (am i wrong?)
Forums exist for a reason, and things change over time... its like magic.
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Dude, get over yourself. OE1 isn't rootable and probably never will be. He gave you the answer. Too bad for you that it's not the answer you're looking for. Stop asking and accept that. All you can do is watch the thread and hope someone decides to work on it (good luck with that). You're asking for an update on something that doesn't exist. There is nowhere to follow development on it, like the MOD said, it's in private chats. Private means you're not invited, mostly because they don't want amateurs asking questions every minute. Just let it go and stop getting unnecessarily defensive when you get info you don't like!:good:
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If its no value for you, why not stop reading it? If you just want to be an ass, please proceed.
Do you believe something you read on the internet today remains true for all eternity?
Contrary to the evidence you've provided, I believe you are not that dumb... (am i wrong?)
Forums exist for a reason, and things change over time... its like magic.
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I respond because I like helping people and providing useful contributions as one should try to do when participating in a forum.
You say my post has no value, yet when I say your thread has no value, suddenly I'm an ass? Such hypocrisy. Not only does my post it address all of your questions, your theoretical maybe and your question of remaining the same for all eternity, it does more.
Even if this thread is "useful" to you in terms of information, not only have I provided you with sufficient theorycrafting which makes perfect logical sense (feel free to correct me if I am wrong), but you are looking for updates to a yes or no question, therefore, you are not providing any usefulness to those developers who may (yet very unlikely, see my links) still be working on root. Rather, you are bugging them. Your thread is useless, you only see my post as useless because the permalinks weren't working, which I fixed. Yet you still reply, and obviously didn't read the post because that post answers your question that you asked me after.
Also, you posted in the wrong section, in which, your thread was answered multiple times. Not only did I respond to you with valuable information, I originally said nothing about your faults. The moderator has moved your thread and has given you the same TL;DR answer I gave you. So you are still asking for a maybe to a yes or no question, which is currently no. So explain to me again, who is the one being rude here?
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I respond because I like helping people and providing useful contributions as one should try to do when participating in a forum.
You say my post has no value, yet when I say your thread has no value, suddenly I'm an ass? Such hypocrisy. Not only does my post it address all of your questions, your theoretical maybe and your question of remaining the same for all eternity, it does more.
Even if this thread is "useful" to you in terms of information, not only have I provided you with sufficient theorycrafting which makes perfect logical sense (feel free to correct me if I am wrong), but you are looking for updates to a yes or no question, therefore, you are not providing any usefulness to those developers who may (yet very unlikely, see my links) still be working on root. Rather, you are bugging them. Your thread is useless, you only see my post as useless because the permalinks weren't working, which I fixed. Yet you still reply, and obviously didn't read the post because that post answers your question that you asked me after.
Also, you posted in the wrong section, in which, your thread was answered multiple times. Not only did I respond to you with valuable information, I originally said nothing about your faults. The moderator has moved your thread and has given you the same TL;DR answer I gave you. So you are still asking for a maybe to a yes or no question, which is currently no. So explain to me again, who is the one being rude here?
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Your last reply is the only one which is slightly helpful... Odd you make snarky comments then get offended when others do the same. I didn't ask if it is rootable ( which would be a yes/no question), I asked something else. Your premise the post required a yes/no answer is a misunderstanding of the question. Clearly you don't know the answer, and that's OK. Why piss and moan about me not liking your snarky comments. If you're going to dish it, be ready to take it.
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Dude, get over yourself. OE1 isn't rootable and probably never will be. He gave you the answer. Too bad for you that it's not the answer you're looking for. Stop asking and accept that. All you can do is watch the thread and hope someone decides to work on it (good luck with that). You're asking for an update on something that doesn't exist. There is nowhere to follow development on it, like the MOD said, it's in private chats. Private means you're not invited, mostly because they don't want amateurs asking questions every minute. Just let it go and stop getting unnecessarily defensive when you get info you don't like!:good:
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You also seem to be of the opinion something which doesn't exist today cannot possibly exist in the future. Nice logic...
get over yourself indeed.
inetquestion said:
Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
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inetquestion said:
Your last reply is the only one which is slightly helpful... Odd you make snarky comments then get offended when others do the same. I didn't ask if it is rootable ( which would be a yes/no question), I asked something else. Your premise the post required a yes/no answer is a misunderstanding of the question. Clearly you don't know the answer, and that's OK. Why piss and moan about me not liking your snarky comments. If you're going to dish it, be ready to take it.
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Snarky comments? Are you talking about yourself? Look at your first response. I've even underlined it for you. Now look at the second underline. That's what you asked. And I answered your question in detail, in those links, which I'm sure you haven't read, because you wouldn't be continuing your redundant discussion. Even the moderator answered your question, and you still are insistent on pursuing a different answer just because you don't like it.
inetquestion said:
Just received a replacement device from VZ and its already on OE1. All the threads I've seen show this to be unrootable (at the moment). When root techniques come out, I'm curious where they they "are" while working toward a workable solution. Would like to see what progress is being made and if there is any way to know "are we there yet" before we get there.
BTW - Thanks VZ!
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inetquestion said:
Sorry the internet as you perceive it is 'full'. If you don't like what you see, stop looking at it. If posts such as your reply, which add no value is your concern... stop typing.
Thanks for the 404 links...
My question relates to where are those working on rooting it discussing the subject so I may read more about the progress.
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You need to read what the moderator wrote in post #3. I've quoted it below in case you missed it or just have reading comprehension problems. There is nowhere for you to read about the progress of developers working on root for this phone because if it is being worked on, the work is being done in private chat rooms which you won't be able to access. That is because they don't want to be bothered with the exact kind of "Are we there yet?" questions you are asking in this thread. And I will reiterate what has already been written in this thread. It is highly likely no one is working on root for this phone now, and it is highly unlikely anyone will be working on root for this phone anytime in the near future. You may not like the answer you are getting, but it is the only answer to your question at the present time.
This thread is as close as you are going to get to what you are asking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...lausible-to-jtag-to-rewrite-unlocked-t3184952
And the OP in that thread is technically not working on root for the phone, just an experimental and risky thought on a way to bypass the locked bootloader.
KennyG123 said:
Root mostly comes from sources off of XDA. Very few attempt solutions in threads on XDA because of the constant "are we there yet?" posts. Most developers work in private chats.
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You need to read what the moderator wrote in post #3. I've quoted it below in case you missed it or just have reading comprehension problems. There is nowhere for you to read about the progress of developers working on root for this phone because if it is being worked on, the work is being done in private chat rooms which you won't be able to access. That is because they don't want to be bothered with the exact kind of "Are we there yet?" questions you are asking in this thread. And I will reiterate what has already been written in this thread. It is highly likely no one is working on root for this phone now, and it is highly unlikely anyone will be working on root for this phone anytime in the near future. You may not like the answer you are getting, but it is the only answer to your question at the present time.
This thread is as close as you are going to get to what you are asking for:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/ver...lausible-to-jtag-to-rewrite-unlocked-t3184952
And the OP in that thread is technically not working on root for the phone, just an experimental and risky thought on a way to bypass the locked bootloader.
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And that thread has 2 people having a discussion better left to dm, yet they continue. They're getting nowhere fast over there.
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And that thread has 2 people having a discussion better left to dm, yet they continue. They're getting nowhere fast over there.
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He likes ignoring facts too, but I answered this in his other thread about petitioning for the FCC to unlock the bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62406501&postcount=4
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...a failed bootloader exploit bricks the phone so that not even a JTAG will revive it.
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Which would nullify his entire thread of him trying to brick to unlock the bootloader.
Considering he's having "issues" bricking the phone... he doesn't have enough knowledge, just free time on his hands. He's probably going to just waste time soft bricking his phone.
But there's a simple logical explanation. If you have to unlock the bootloader to write unsigned code, i.e. a bootloader/custom rom, how would writing an unlocked bootloader work? That's like asking, how do you get the key to unlock a safe (if the key is inside the safe) so you can get your money? Replace a safe with an unlocked one? What happened to the money? Edit: on second thought, this is a slightly bad analogy, replacing the safe would be like getting the unlocked dev edition, but it still should get the point across.
He may as well just try flashing all the developer edition roms to his non dev phone (Note to new people: DO NOT do this), because those are all "unlocked firmware", exactly what he's trying to do.
He seems bent on arguing semantics, which is why I went back and forth with him but eventually stopped in his petition thread. But he's not rude like this guy, he just has a mindset that says, this is what I feel the answer should be, so it should work no matter what.