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Avoiding OTA ATT updates.

I've searched to no avail on my phone for this. I am running GreyBlur. Everytime the phone downloads an OTA update and attempts to install it, it reboots and errs out. I hate this because it does it without my permission. Is there something to stop this without the bootloader unlock that we are all waiting for?
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You still running 1.57?

nephsuperman said:
I've searched to no avail on my phone for this. I am running GreyBlur. Everytime the phone downloads an OTA update and attempts to install it, it reboots and errs out. I hate this because it does it without my permission. Is there something to stop this without the bootloader unlock that we are all waiting for?
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Yes. Use TiBU to freeze updater.

All I see in TiBU is that I can freeze updates for certain apps. I am running 4.1.57. I just want it to stop trying to send any ATT updates like the HSPA update. (I already had it, wink wink, nod nod) How do I go about doing that in TiBU?

Tibu< backup/restore< "click to edit filters"< filter by name: "updater"< apply< updater2.2.2< freeze!

or you can jsut deactivate motoblur if you dont need it for fb and other syncing.

Good for Enterprise Supercurio Root Keeper anyone get it working?

Hi guys,
Anyone using GFE on there rooted samsung epic? My company checks for root and was wondering if the Supercurio root keeper will work to do a temp unroot and have access to GFE. Any idea if I need to rename or remove superuser.apk if I use the Supercurio root keeper?
Thanks..

Why not just make a backup via cwm and have a stock non rooted rom running? Do they check for just SU or the 9 yards? If so you could odin in the stock el30 package by toadlife, odin a recovery , make a backup and flash whatever rom then if your company decides to check restore the back up and you'll be find
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The whole 9 yards I'm afraid . That is an idea but was hoping not to flip back and forth from stock to rooted. But if there is no other way it's probably the route I'm going to have to take.
Also it makes sense that it should work but since I never went back and forth from stock to rooted from CWM. The question is coming to my mind will it work? Or do I need to Odin to switch back and forth.

What is GFE?
Edit: why would it even care about root...
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I use GFE and I am rooted using mostly stock ei22 rom from xbtx. I thought GFE app had some sort of checking for rooted devices not that the company checked for rooted phone. How would the company check to see that your phone was rooted ?
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marcusant said:
What is GFE?
Edit: why would it even care about root...
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Good For Enterprise, it's an app to get your corporate email on your phone.
I use it, and we don't check for root.... I seem to recall from my GFE training that they can check for it, we don't.

I use GFE and I also have it deployed to hundreds of users at my company. I'm not sure if I'm somehow using a different version of the Good management console, but I don't remember having an option to check for rooted devices? I'll double check tomorrow, but I feel like I would remember seeing that option.
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GFE the app has a check. From what I read it looks for superuser.apk and whatever else is root related. Coworker of mine has the same phone and rooted rom and got a message that the phone won't provision with gfe because against company policy i.e. phone is rooted.
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the donate version of superuser has ghost mode, the apk hides and you can only access it through a dialer code you select. you can set it to refuse and superuser requests while in ghost mode or to allow based of your settings.
can you check for superuser without superuser permissions?
i'm sure you need something more but a chance to plug elite, i couldn't refuse.

Thanks. I'll give the ghost superuser a try. Maybe a combination of SuperCurio rootkeeper and this will work.
Well I got the superuser elite but it looks like ghost mode just hides the icon. Not sure if this will work. As GFE will still find superuser in both the /sbin and /xbin.
Update- Still not in compliance tried both rootkeeper and super user elite.

Biggoron said:
Why not just make a backup via cwm and have a stock non rooted rom running? Do they check for just SU or the 9 yards? If so you could odin in the stock el30 package by toadlife, odin a recovery , make a backup and flash whatever rom then if your company decides to check restore the back up and you'll be find
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Unfortunately, this will not work. I'm not sure what doesn't match up, but each time you flash, even from a backup, it will want you to reactivate with the Good server. Fortunately, I work in IT and can get a PIN in about 4 seconds, but for someone who is at the mercy of their IT department...flashing then begging them for a new PIN isn't a good option

Weird. I backup with MyBackup Pro, and I don't have to reset my PIN every time.....

From what i gather as long as you backup good in offline mode. It wont require a pin everytime you flash. I haven't tested this my self but have read people having success using this method.
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That could be, I only turn mine on when I'm oncall.
Can you set your PIN to never expire? Last job we had that, so the handful of users who had it didn't have to get a new PIN every time.
I've been looking for Jailbreak/Root detection, but haven't found it yet. Saw it in a manual but it didn't say where to set it.

Ae these companies you guys are talking about using exchange email servers or what?? What is so different that you are using this gfe app rather than stock email app? I run corporate exchange from stock email app and no issues with being rooted however I am the network admin too though lol.
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Supposedly, GFE allows for better data protection. We pay for it because of the potential for PHI* on the device. We do have OMA here, but until we upgrade our servers to Exchange2010 we don't have as much control over the device and can't remotely wipe it if it goes missing.
Or so I'm told. /shrug
* - Protected Health Information

So I went ahead and tried to unroot my rom. By just deleting superuser.apk and su by using adb. Only issue I'm seeing is that everytime I reboot su and superuser.apk come back and the phone is rooted again. Any ideas why? Surely GFE will not work if root returns after reboot .

cerchiara said:
So I went ahead and tried to unroot my rom. By just deleting superuser.apk and su by using adb. Only issue I'm seeing is that everytime I reboot su and superuser.apk come back and the phone is rooted again. Any ideas why?
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You're using a rooted kernel.

Thanks k0nane! That makes sense.
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I use a combo of renaming superuser.apk and installing supersu and freezing gfe to bypass the checks.... pm me if u need info.

Can I hide my Root status from an app permanently?

I need help guys. I'm currently rooted running ParinoiAndroid 3.00 and Franco Kernel #82. I'm trying to download the Good for Enterprise App from the Play Store and install for my work email, but the app won't install becasue of my Root status. Is there a way to hide the root status from this app at all times. I really don't want to unroot my phone.
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Not sure if this will work...
Go to SuperSU -> Settings.
There in Access, give default access as Deny
Then set up the whole Good for Enterprise thing
Then once the setup is done, set default access as Prompt again.

rhoadster91 said:
Not sure if this will work...
Go to SuperSU -> Settings.
There in Access, give default access as Deny
Then set up the whole Good for Enterprise thing
Then once the setup is done, set default access as Prompt again.
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Thanks for the suggestion, but I gave it a try and it didn't work.
Any other ideas????

Unroot. Install. Re-root. ?
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chrisrozon said:
Unroot. Install. Re-root. ?
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I do not think unrooting 4.2.2 is wise. I heard 4.2.1 rooting techniques do not work for 4.2.2.
Gjohnson7771 said:
Any other ideas????
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Umm... nothing I can think of right now... If you have a spare device you can unroot that, install it on that device, setup your phone, root it, copy its data from /data/data and then restore it in your Nexus 4 Long shot.

rhoadster91 said:
I do not think unrooting 4.2.2 is wise. I heard 4.2.1 rooting techniques do not work for 4.2.2.
Umm... nothing I can think of right now... If you have a spare device you can unroot that, install it on that device, setup your phone, root it, copy its data from /data/data and then restore it in your Nexus 4 Long shot.
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Ok, that's not good. I guess I will need to do more research on unrooting 4.2.2.
And no this is my only device. I have a couple of old Iphones but that won't do me any good. Oh and if I was to unroot it and install the software, wouldn't the device be wiped when I re-root it and flash a custom ROM?

Gjohnson7771 said:
Oh and if I was to unroot it and install the software, wouldn't the device be wiped when I re-root it and flash a custom ROM?
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After re-rooting it, backup the data using Titanium. Then flash custom ROM and restore App + data.

rhoadster91 said:
After re-rooting it, backup the data using Titanium. Then flash custom ROM and restore App + data.
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I'm not sure if you would know this answer or not, but in an app like Good Enterprise does it normally just search for root status upon initial install or does it look for the root status periodically.
Also, I had plans to unroot using the SuperSU "Full unroot" option or even the Nexus 4 tool kit. Are either one of these methods the unroot techniques you were referring too? I really don't want to brick my device if its unwise to unroot.

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Gjohnson7771 said:
I'm not sure if you would know this answer or not, but in an app like Good Enterprise does it normally just search for root status upon initial install or does it look for the root status periodically.
Also, I had plans to unroot using the SuperSU "Full unroot" option or even the Nexus 4 tool kit. Are either one of these methods the unroot techniques you were referring too? I really don't want to brick my device if its unwise to unroot.
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I would have tried to check it myself first before suggesting you the solution (I had even downloaded the app) but turns out setting up Good Enterprise requires more than just downloading and installing it. I am not sure if it checks the root status periodically but in this case looks like the only option we have is to hope that it checks only during initiation. However, if the app is any good, I think it will check root status periodically to maintain security (because a lot of app information is compromised on a rooted phone)
Also, I do not think you will brick your phone if u attempt to root 4.2.2. Simply rebooting it in fastboot mode will give you option to revert to stock even in the worst situations. Still, cannot rule out the risk.
Anyway, a simple Google Search revealed this which could be a potential solution

Well thanks for all the info. I'll see what I can figure out.

Un rooting is quite simple , nothing to worry about!
By the way, Good permissions can be set by your administrator. They have the option to allow root, to check every time, Or to check once. It all depends on how your company configures it.
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Well, I was able to use nexus 4 toolkit to uproot and relock the boot loader. The app install fine after that and is working properly.
Thanks for the replies. For some reason I was thinking I would have to return the phone back to stock to uproot it, I'm glad I was able to keep my custom ROM and kernel. 1 more question, was re-locking the boot loader necessary or could I have kept it unlocked?

voodoo ota root keeper has a temporary unroot option, grab it from the playstore , much easier than unrooting your phone, also root survives an ota from google. You probably could have left the bootloader unlocked.

easy way ??
An easy way to hide root is renaming the superuser app/apps in the below location.
/system/app
This method did the charm for me for few apps. But the disadvantage is, it will hide root for all apps..

Workaround
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2040163 - thread talking about workaround for GFE

[Q] We see lots of OTA related problems, how do you disable OTA?

Today I had to restart my phone because it dropped data connection, the moment I restarted it said my phone was being updated and I should wait, it wasted my time and it shoved 10o update down my throat.
If I had recovery installed, this could have been disastrous, no?
Not only for recovery related problems, but this may also prevent people from being able to install certain things, or even one day in the future with a different update just block root?
How do we uninstall then disable OTA updates on an unrooted phone? When I disabled and cancelled notifications for Software Update app, I thought it was fixed, but it probably made it worse, it just installed without any notification or prompt.
I was planning to root and install twrp this weekend, now with all the horror stories I've been reading, I don't want to do it. :crying:
How is AT&T even allowed to push it without explicit permit to install on device.

hydeah said:
Today I had to restart my phone because it dropped data connection, the moment I restarted it said my phone was being updated and I should wait, it wasted my time and it shoved 10o update down my throat.
If I had recovery installed, this could have been disastrous, no?
Not only for recovery related problems, but this may also prevent people from being able to install certain things, or even one day in the future with a different update just block root?
How do we uninstall then disable OTA updates on an unrooted phone? When I disabled and cancelled notifications for Software Update app, I thought it was fixed, but it probably made it worse, it just installed without any notification or prompt.
I was planning to root and install twrp this weekend, now with all the horror stories I've been reading, I don't want to do it. :crying:
How is AT&T even allowed to push it without explicit permit to install on device.
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Pull down the notification bar and tap and hold on the notification. App info will pop up and tap it and scroll all the way to the bottom and uncheck show notification.
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oldpreowner said:
Pull down the notification bar and tap and hold on the notification. App info will pop up and tap it and scroll all the way to the bottom and uncheck show notification.
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I did that when I first got the notification. Notification disappeared. 2 days later I restarted my phone for the first time in over a week, and bam, it installed without any notification at all. So disabling notification won't stop it from installing, it seems..

I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.

hydeah said:
I did that when I first got the notification. Notification disappeared. 2 days later I restarted my phone for the first time in over a week, and bam, it installed without any notification at all. So disabling notification won't stop it from installing, it seems..
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If you have the ota, you could use root explorer or browser to go into the Cache folder and delete it(ota) then try to install it will fail or do nothing then hit cancel

How can I downgrade?
I don't mind paying for titanium to freeze the app. This is nonsense, enjoyment just update by itself, lucky I didn't install recovery.
Sent from my LG-D800

nybmx said:
I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.
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What version of the G2 do you have? I'm on Sprint and I don't have "Software Update", I have "Update Device 4.5.1.10" which I just froze.
Does anyone know if I install the update can I still flash TWRP to my device? I'm not sure if I should install TWRP now and use the flashable ota zip or install it after I update it.

nybmx said:
I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.
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I don't have tibu pro.. I went in to system/app and deleted LGDMSClient.apk.
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I'm asking the same question OP is asking, is there a way to disable the update on non-rooted phones? And from experience with several other Android phones... I know it's pretty much impossible to downgrade unless you start flashing, but I'm gonna ask anyways. Is there a way to downgrade the upgrade that was forced down OP's throat and my own throat? For me it actually updated in my sleep, I woke up and it said my phone was updated. OP and I are on AT&T's D800 variant.

btm fdr said:
I don't have tibu pro.. I went in to system/app and deleted LGDMSClient.apk.
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On Verizon it is called MobileUpdateClient.apk. I changed the file extension to .old and then moved it to a new folder called old so I would know what I had changed.
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zzandrewst said:
On Verizon it is called MobileUpdateClient.apk. I changed the file extension to .old and then moved it to a new folder called old so I would know what I had changed.
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Does anyone know the name of the file for T-Mobile? I can't find any of the names listed in this thread.
Thanks

What do I disable on Sprint?
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zzandrewst said:
On Verizon it is called MobileUpdateClient.apk. I changed the file extension to .old and then moved it to a new folder called old so I would know what I had changed.
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Looks like this worked for me also of my Verizon phone. It seems to have also remove the manual check option in the About phone section in settings.

nybmx said:
I know this doesn't directly help your situation since you're not rooted but this should help someone who is.
I had to freeze "Software Update 2.3.0.5" using titanium backup for it to stop. Not sure of a way to do it without root or without the pro version of titanium.
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Well, it would still help to avoid further OTA's from being applied if we are rooted and do not use custom rom, there is always a risk of getting OTA and messing everything up, therefore if freezing above app worked for you, it should be all we need. Is Software Update the actual app which checks for version and receives pushes from AT&T when a new OTA is available, or if there are other apps/modules that does this. The problem is, if it is incorporated into android system like some of the other stuff AT&T incorporated, it would be impossible to completely eliminate it without running a custom rom.

RubbleTea said:
If you have the ota, you could use root explorer or browser to go into the Cache folder and delete it(ota) then try to install it will fail or do nothing then hit cancel
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Awesome the above instructions worked great! Thank you very much brother

disable ota on at&t
Did you totally remove the apk, or rename it? Also, if removed, will it cause other problems?
I only ask cause i had a g2 that was pushed an ota and bricked my g2. Had to get a new one, now trying ti disable the ota's from doing that again..
Then when kitkat is released, am i not able to update it, then root again?
btm fdr said:
I don't have tibu pro.. I went in to system/app and deleted LGDMSClient.apk.
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Att
I have Lg G2 (Att) & hours b4 I have reflash'd back 2 stock and applied root about an hour later i got OTA so I click'd 2 recieve OTA it came back sayin Cant download OTA on rooted device if that helps and thatt was almost 24\hrs ago n still runnin smoothly but file was only like 16MB
So will a bigger OTA push current root'd stock rom out n brick my fone¿

this seems to work for G Flex users.. worth a shot on G2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50454408&postcount=3

hydeah said:
How can I downgrade?
I don't mind paying for titanium to freeze the app. This is nonsense, enjoyment just update by itself, lucky I didn't install recovery.
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you have to flash the old version by using LG Flash Tool, like I did.

So, I have a question for you guys. I got my phone yesterday and I'm on 10o. I installed the CWM recovery for 10o via Flashify, and now I'm concerned about OTAs - I disabled it via the Hidden Menu, but if there's an OTA to update the phone to 4.3 or 4.4, I'd like to receive it and not worry about bricking my phone.
I don't plan on doing a lot of custom ROM flashing, I really just wanted to root and install Xposed. Do I need to flash a stock ROM and go back to stock recovery, so I don't have to worry about OTAs? Or should I be good with CWM and the stock ROM that I rooted?

TowelRoot

So, I just found out where the link was hiding. Working great so far.

How about if you click on the big (Greek) lambda symbol?
https://towelroot.com/tr.apk

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How do you unroot the towel root

monkeyjjk said:
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How do you unroot the towel root
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You have to go to SuperSu and unroot from there.
Setttings > Full Unroot > Continue.
Wait for it to prompt you to reboot and you're done

SuperSU issue
So... the root worked fine. I checked with Root Checker, and it's all good in the 'hood. HOWEVER, when I installed SuperSU, it tells me that the "Installation Failed"... second "however", though, is that when I run an app requiring elevated permissions, SuperSU pops up just like it should, and everything works. Very curious.

Foetus said:
So... the root worked fine. I checked with Root Checker, and it's all good in the 'hood. HOWEVER, when I installed SuperSU, it tells me that the "Installation Failed"... second "however", though, is that when I run an app requiring elevated permissions, SuperSU pops up just like it should, and everything works. Very curious.
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It's a known issue, as long as you have SuperSU popping up asking for permissions and your root checker shows green, I wouldn't worry. It happened to the wife's S5, and that was 3 months ago, and she's still rooted.
You could also try and re-dl the latest, I believe 2.01, in the playstore and see if that helps if you are that worried about it.
_don't forget to hit thanks to anyone that helps ya out_

Does Towelroot trigger Knox and cause a CUSTOM notice when booting?

mkuhl2000 said:
Does Towelroot trigger Knox and cause a CUSTOM notice when booting?
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Does not trigger know, but may cause custom notice.

LeftyGR said:
Does not trigger know, but may cause custom notice.
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Caused custom notice on mine.
Question: can I uninstall after rooting and keep root? Google keeps warning me about it.

oatlord said:
Caused custom notice on mine.
Question: can I uninstall after rooting and keep root? Google keeps warning me about it.
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Yes. Once rooted, the app doesn't have to be installed.