[Q] 2160p or 1440p video recording? - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello, I'm new on this subforum because I'm a Motorola Defy (this one was locked with 640x480 recording, our developer Quarx unlocked it to 840x640 and even 720p) owner, but I'm planning to buy a LG G2 (D-802 probably) next year
I was wondering if this phone, that can record 1080p at 60 FPS (just like Note 3) couldn't record 2160p? or even 1440p? If yes, that would be another reason to buy LG G2

I think LG actually said themselves that they were working on it. Don't know where I read that though.
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Aleebaan said:
I think LG actually said themselves that they were working on it. Don't know where I read that though.
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"[...] We asked LG about 4K recording (which the Snapdragon 800 CPU supports) and were told that it could be possible with a future firmware upgrade like Android 4.4 KitKat. With so few 4K sets in living rooms though, not to mention the storage space issues such large files will cause, LG doesn't feel that lack of 4K recording at launch is a pressing issue. [...]"
Source: http://www.stuff.tv/android/lg-g2/review
Hope they do that, too bad there isn't any release date confirmed yet

I would be a bigger fan of 1440p than 4K, honestly. I want to have my videos on my phone, and i only have 16 GB of space. And yeah, It's good to know they know this is something we want.
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Lg g3 has timeshift recording like z2

Just wondering if the lg g3 have something similar to Xperia z2 timeshift apps.
So what it does is you do the video shooting at around 8mp first and then you can choose from where to where to have slow motion inside that clip.
So does g3 have this function because I cannot find any type of apps that can do this no matter free or paid version
i was mislead.
radeonxt said:
i was mislead.
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I concur. I thought I was being told it did, only to find out that the statement was indeed a question.
rayraymond said:
Just wondering if the lg g3 have something similar to Xperia z2 timeshift apps.
So what it does is you do the video shooting at around 8mp first and then you can choose from where to where to have slow motion inside that clip.
So does g3 have this function because I cannot find any type of apps that can do this no matter free or paid version
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U should probably change the title and the G3 does not record at 8MP (3,264 x 2,448) for slow motion it records at 720p. I'm not sure if it does but we will have to wait and see if anyone can get their hands on a Korean model and check for us also forgot to mention u posted in the wrong section
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Will Official G2 Lollipop update have 4k camera?

Just wondering if anyone know if the LG G2 official lollipop update have 4k video camera?
I don't see why not (other than interfering with LG G3 and higher-end phone sales). All the G2 4k mods that are well over a year old now have performed solidly, and evidently more reliable than other phones that officially had 4k functionality.
The updates apparently have been rolling out in other countries...........anyknow know?
poog said:
Just wondering if anyone know if the LG G2 official lollipop update have 4k video camera?
I don't see why not (other than interfering with LG G3 and higher-end phone sales). All the G2 4k mods that are well over a year old now have performed solidly, and evidently more reliable than other phones that officially had 4k functionality.
The updates apparently have been rolling out in other countries...........anyknow know?
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Nah it won't. In that aspect, LG is not better than any other major supplier.
Heck, they even removed wireless storage in the official Korean ROM without adding new features.
As i know, korean g2 users who update to lollipop doesn't have 4k option. But probably it will be a mod like Xcam for 5.0
korean g2 did not get 4K camera. So we can easily say that we wont have 4K. The thing is 4K is about hardware.And i guess our camera sensors are not capable of 4K. I don`t know i might be wrong
mckenji said:
korean g2 did not get 4K camera. So we can easily say that we wont have 4K. The thing is 4K is about hardware.And i guess our camera sensors are not capable of 4K. I don`t know i might be wrong
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The G2 is very capable of 4k (UHD) There have been great mods out for more than a year. via Xdabbeb, Cloudy roms are wonderful. etc. Example the Cloudy G3 roms for G2 all have solid working 4k camera apps built-in.
mckenji said:
korean g2 did not get 4K camera. So we can easily say that we wont have 4K. The thing is 4K is about hardware.And i guess our camera sensors are not capable of 4K. I don`t know i might be wrong
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g3 has the same chip as g2. only additionally has lazer focus. so anything can g3 do, g2 should do too camera wise.
I don`t understand why all G2 users crying about 4K video. All you have 4K TVs at home....? In my opinion it is completely inusable! Even on big TV human eye is incapapble to make difference between 4K and FullHD from distance more than 1-2 metres... FPS are those who make the difference in video quality and I`m very happy that we have FullHD on 60fps...
4k resolution looks better on a fullhd screen than a fullhd video. Think it's called scaling or something I think, could be wrong though
Try watching this video for example:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKfx13EgoUY
zefircho said:
I don`t understand why all G2 users crying about 4K video. All you have 4K TVs at home....? In my opinion it is completely inusable! Even on big TV human eye is incapapble to make difference between 4K and FullHD from distance more than 1-2 metres... FPS are those who make the difference in video quality and I`m very happy that we have FullHD on 60fps...
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We are quite capable of discerning the difference, even without displaying it on a native 4k monitor, that being said, this is XDA my friend If we can, we will!
To the OP: I wouldn't count on LG to support it officially, but I have my hopes up that XDABBEB can/will cook it up.
I dont know much about the technical details or ramifications of how lollipop handles camera drivers and stuff, but I figure the probability of being able to do it are pretty high since the hardware does it.
mckenji said:
korean g2 did not get 4K camera. So we can easily say that we wont have 4K. The thing is 4K is about hardware.And i guess our camera sensors are not capable of 4K. I don`t know i might be wrong
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Actually there is people who claims with video samples as a proof that the LG G2 4k is better than most of the phones that provides this feature
TheSonic said:
Actually there is people who claims with video samples as a proof that the LG G2 4k is better than most of the phones that provides this feature
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Of course it is better when it is fully modded. xdabbeb did lots of work on the g2 camera. you can thank him for awesome camera.
proof?

4k recording apps for LG G3? Anything other than stock and Xcam?

Anyone know if there are working 4k recording apps for the LG G3 other than stock and Xcam?
I heard Freedcam (dead project)......may work but I tried latest version with no option for it.
Anyone?
poog said:
Anyone know if there are working 4k recording apps for the LG G3 other than stock and Xcam?
I heard Freedcam (dead project)......may work but I tried latest version with no option for it.
Anyone?
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"Rec. (Screen Recorder)" by SPECTRL records in 1440p. It's not 4k but it's pretty dang close. I didn't even know 1440 was an option until I started using the app. It does have limitations though. There is a five minute recording time limit -- at least on the free version. Quality app but it DOES REQUIRE ROOT. Hope this helps!

LG G4 Bad OIS

Looks like the G4's OIS is too aggressive and the videos taken look shaky.
Is this something future G4 owners will have to live with or can this be fixed by a software update, or perhaps a third party camera app?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY6rAE8FNkg
@4:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4MtfKfBW9E
Sharpshooterrr said:
Looks like the G4's OIS is too aggressive and the videos taken look shaky.
Is this something future G4 owners will have to live with or can this be fixed by a software update, or perhaps a third party camera app?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY6rAE8FNkg
@4:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4MtfKfBW9E
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I think LG depends too much on the OIS. OIS should work with DIS, not be an either-or situation.
The OIS in the G4 has more travel than the S6, which means it wants to stabilize the picture when the camera is moving during video and then snaps back more when it hits the end of the travel. The net result is, paradoxically, shakier video when the camera is moving around. This issue with video and OIS was pointed out in the Anandtech review of the S6, and was considered the probable reason that the iPhone 6+ disables OIS for video and uses only EIS.
I haven't tried it, but I've read that using EIS in conjunction with OIS on the S6 causes the video the pitch all over the place. Since OIS can't be disabled, it was recommended to disable EIS.
Technically, the OIS in the G4 is OIS 2.0 as they added another axis.
Yeah, that does not look good.
Yes, a software update can chill out the censors activities. The hardware is not just independently acting on it's own.
Umm....Those videos were taken at 1080p....not UHD setting. Not sure how that affects OIS.
All I can say is that my G3 takes very steady video on UHD...nothing as shaky or warping like as that video showed for the G4. I can't imagine LG screwing up so badly with the G4. I really want the G4 because of its better contrast screen(once thing I always found annoying is that the G3 always looked a bit grey/washed out compared to OLED screens). I will be looking to get the G4 full price, not on contract....so really hope this OIS thing gets sorted out.
Quite frankly, the OIS issue isn't really a big deal unless you really like taking video while walking around. For typical video shooting, OIS helps way more than it hurts.
Keep in mind these are early G4's with a non final firmware.
On the other hand if you send reviewers a G4 better have the OIS fixed.
Let's hope it will be not that bad.
The conclusions are too early.
The person who posted an another video of speed test said that this is not a review unit, It is a consumer unit which all consumers will use in comments when someone asked
Ha love the idea of quoting one early review and then stating it is fact and gospel. Ridiculous.
I am buying it. No matter what is OIS doing. It's better with it then without. I can't understand why we even talking about something that is hitting the shelves at the end of the month [ here in Europe ].
I use my G3 for video very heavily. (got over 2tb of videos from it and its only been almost a year since I got it.) None of my vids are that janky as in those review videos.
Just have to wait until the G4 is out for a while...see what happens.
speedingcheetah said:
I use my G3 for video very heavily. (got over 2tb of videos from it and its only been almost a year since I got it.) None of my vids are that janky as in those review videos.
Just have to wait until the G4 is out for a while...see what happens.
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Yes I've had the g4 since last Tuesday - got it from a work mate in South Korea - and my videos look fine.
Silly LG ! why don't LG just use common sense? if they give unstable, unreliable and unfinished phone or software version phone to people for try they will publish and talk about all it deficiency, problem and other bad things, most of people publish video, opinion and review based on this initial hardware and software, so instead of promotion LG is actually damage his image and product and ruin the successful flagship launch by doing it, also LG need to understand that when they give phone to thousands of people to try give them a best looking phone instead of just giving plastic version to every tester or reviewer, do you thing any tester or reviewer can impress their friends or family by showed this unimpressive plastic version???
One thing I will say, I just did a video testing myself with my G4. The video was a little shaky then what I thought was recorded but what did annoy me was in auto mode the focusing was just horrible.
This camera software is definitely not finished
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Hanson68 said:
The OIS in the G4 has more travel than the S6, which means it wants to stabilize the picture when the camera is moving during video and then snaps back more when it hits the end of the travel. The net result is, paradoxically, shakier video when the camera is moving around. This issue with video and OIS was pointed out in the Anandtech review of the S6, and was considered the probable reason that the iPhone 6+ disables OIS for video and uses only EIS.
I haven't tried it, but I've read that using EIS in conjunction with OIS on the S6 causes the video the pitch all over the place. Since OIS can't be disabled, it was recommended to disable EIS.
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Usually OIS can be disabled through build.prop
upload this file found here system/lib/hw/camera.msm8xxx.so
i will find what needs to be added to build.prop to disable ois
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxgZfYS_ZeU
Maybe we should disable OIS and try to figure out a way to have DIS.
And on this review they say it has better stabilisation?
Lbs has a faulty device?
https://youtu.be/3b5B8LkrFF8
defcomg said:
Usually OIS can be disabled through build.prop
upload this file found here system/lib/hw/camera.msm8xxx.so
i will find what needs to be added to build.prop to disable ois
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Would there be any way to disable OIS on a G3? Sorry to go a bit off topic with my question but this thread is the only one I could find anywhere on the web mentioning the possibility if disabling OIS on an LG phone.
I use my phone as a dash cam when driving my car on race tracks. OIS give a wavey distortion due to the various G forces encountered.
Defcomg, will a solution for the G4 work on a G3?
Upload camera.MSM8974.so from g3 I will find the build.prop property needed to disable ois
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Here are the OIS Control params they can be added to an opensource camera app such as a better camera/opencamera/freedcam
Key
Code:
"ois-ctrl"
Values
Code:
"preview-capture","capture","video","centering-only","centering-off"
this is from a g2 pro lib but it was the same in g3 lib not sure if it applies to g4
Thanks defcomg for a quick reply. I don't see any access to system/lib/hw/camera. I'm going to bet my phone needs to be rooted. I can give that a go but it may take a while for me to learn how. Sorry I'm a low level user. And Verizon is pounding me to update to Lollipop which I have been hesitant to do. (I read lots of complaints about battery degradation and wi-fi issues.) I should probably go ahead and do that in case doing it later unroots the phone.

Why the Moto G4 Plus can't record at 1080p60?

Maybe some of you have seen the same question here in xda or in other forums, but I've researched deeper about the image sensor and it also supports 1080p60 video recording and even more! Actual recording is not even 30 fps, is 25 fps!
As you can see in the image
Why another thread?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g4-plus/themes/moto-g4-plus-1080p60fps-t3552528
PS: The recording is at 30FPS in a normal country like US.
First off, there are 3 threads about this on XDA already.
Secondly, unless you want to rewrite the drivers and modify the kernel for the G4+, then don't ***** and whine about not having a feature 98% of people don't use. Besides, the G4+ sensor, while decent, lacks any sort of stabilization (OIS/EIS), and 30fps is generally sufficient regardless.
Moreover, a bit of heating while using the camera on the phone is well known, don't know what will happen if one day by chance 60fps is enabled somehow
tywinlannister7 said:
Moreover, a bit of heating while using the camera on the phone is well known, don't know what will happen if one day by chance 60fps is enabled somehow
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People then will cry why the device is getting so hot while recording 1080p60 and wants to fix this ASAP.

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