Adidas miCoach Smart Run - Other SmartWatches

Too much for too little?
Or, a good training partner updating from Motorola Motoactv?
This review says it's a reskinned Android 4.1.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/11/19/adidas-micoach-smart-run-review/
Upside: heart rate monitor included.
Downside: only 3gb of free space.

i'd call 400$ a downside too...

JarlSX said:
i'd call 400$ a downside too...
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AHAHAH 400$ :=0
i already think i was crazy when i bought motoactv for 200, now i dont regret it but, 400 its almost the price of a great phone,
do the Adidas micoach take coffes or do your bed in the morning?
otherwise....

crazy price. who will buy this?
hackerse7en said:
AHAHAH 400$ :=0
i already think i was crazy when i bought motoactv for 200, now i dont regret it but, 400 its almost the price of a great phone,
do the Adidas micoach take coffes or do your bed in the morning?
otherwise....
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Can it be rooted

no dev to expect? ill check mine out.

That article is from two years ago.

i heared, there will be a next gen this fall. But im interessted, so maybe ill give it private a try... as soon as i get in stuff!

Did anyone find a jailbreak or a Windows driver to get access to the watch. Support will be closed very soon, seems to be there is no possibility to download GPX tracks from the watch directly.

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Did anyone find a jailbreak or a Windows driver to get access to the watch. Support will be closed very soon, seems to be there is no possibility to download GPX tracks from the watch directly.
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Hi forandy, any new about the acess to Smart Run?

forandy said:
Did anyone find a jailbreak or a Windows driver to get access to the watch. Support will be closed very soon, seems to be there is no possibility to download GPX tracks from the watch directly.
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Also want to know!
I've been talking to Adidas, and they say that my warranty has void, so they cannot do anything about it!!! So annoying...
I threatened them about writing all over the internet the good service they provide! Anybody can help me out? Sites, places to talk real bad about this issue?
It is a shame that a super brand like Adidas don't ensure the usability of their own and expensive products, don't you guys agree?

sorry for the revival - any one know how to bypass the activation on these devices ? had my device reset and now cannot activate - since unable to get token /login...FFS!! So for folks that are still using this - don't reset device or else you'll have a nice paper weight.
haven't found anyway to put the device in debugging mode to maybe at least bypass activation so I can just use the core features (mp3/gps/HRM).
if you remove the rear cover - there is pads for UART/SPI not to sure at this stage - will have to do some digging...
Flash CHIP (4GB) is SAMSUNG KLM4G1YE4C-B001.

Just to keep everybody informed!
After many, many, but many complains on Adidas, and with the good help of the resolver . com, i got my money back after sending the watch to Germany.
The only bad thing was that had to wait for 2 months after they got the watch there, but...

Bastards
Stopping the support before the announced date - thats disgusting!
Never will buy Adidas products again!
I've used mine for several years and now its not the question of money! Still use them as HRM monitor, hoping to find the solution to download other info some day!

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Just to keep everybody informed!
After many, many, but many complains on Adidas, and with the good help of the resolver . com, i got my money back after sending the watch to Germany.
The only bad thing was that had to wait for 2 months after they got the watch there, but...
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Could you please provide more details on how you got your money back? I was just talking to the support today and they told me to speak with Runtastic (why ever, since I doubt that they took over the software development for the watch).

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Could you please provide more details on how you got your money back? I was just talking to the support today and they told me to speak with Runtastic (why ever, since I doubt that they took over the software development for the watch).
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Yeah, they also told me that, but i fought against that argument because i bought it on Adidas (had a proof of that with me) and not on Runtastic, whatever that companies sells, so my complaint was against Adidas.
Also opened a case on Resolver.co.uk, which did help.
And threatened them al the time to spread the news about this nasty behaviour of Adidas All Over the Internet!
Much efforts, but they did compensate at the end.
Hope this can help you

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Yeah, they also told me that, but i fought against that argument because i bought it on Adidas (had a proof of that with me) and not on Runtastic, whatever that companies sells, so my complaint was against Adidas.
Also opened a case on Resolver.co.uk, which did help.
And threatened them al the time to spread the news about this nasty behaviour of Adidas All Over the Internet!
Much efforts, but they did compensate at the end.
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Thanks a lot for sharing. Spoke with the support a few days ago - they told me, they cannot give me an answer right away but want to come back to me via mail. Still waiting for that to happen...

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Thanks a lot for sharing. Spoke with the support a few days ago - they told me, they cannot give me an answer right away but want to come back to me via mail. Still waiting for that to happen...
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Ok, then i wish you luck my friend, and a tots of patience.

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Ok, then i wish you luck my friend, and a tots of patience.
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Thanks a lot - guess that's the only thing I can do right now.
From a technical point of view I'm still wondering, why they didn't publish a possibility, to let the issue get fixed by the community (of course I'd expect a company like Adidas to fix it by themselves, but that oviously didn't happen). I'd assume that they change shouldn't be that big, since only the upload target has to be changed - or am I mistaken? And even in the case, that they don't want to publish any details on the watch OS or the app running ontop, it should have been possible to just create a website that accepts MiCoach logins that are trying to publish acitivites and just forward them to the Runtastic site.
Either approch would be better than just pissing off all the people who payed a lot of money for the watch.

Still noone found a possbility to download GPX (or any different format) files? Think this is the only thing which is missing to run standalone ... meanwhile I've many unsynced runs on my(our) watch(es).

Related

FREE: my old Universal as i've upgraded.

Yes i'm giving away my old Universal.
i'll even help with shipping
i've upgraded to the TOUCH HD, and want to leave my Uni to someone that could benefit.
the way i figure it, i've loved it since i had 3 years ago and if it wasn't for the hard work of the cookers who cracked the updates and even WinMo6, i would have been a lot less happy.
they're very responsible for a lot of the productivity and fun i've had along the way, which i've payed forward. now this is a little direct payback .
The forum members have been great support too, and this community has been a constant source that fuels the evolution of our Uni's.
Included is :
1) HTC Universal G3 (very good condition)
2) 2gb SD card
3) USB to Mini-USB (for data and charging)
4) Tomal's 8.2 ROM (excellent)
5) 2 stylus' (replacement for the original i wore out!)
6) replacement battery (bought 2008, 1600MaH. original wore out)
*pics upon request*
I'd like it to go to one of the cookers that may need an new/extra Uni for testing, so that it can help with their efforts in supporting the rest of the Uni lovers here.
if there are no takers from any of the cookers, i will happily leave it to anyone else that wants it
now, how do you get it? simple.
for ONE WEEK i invite any cookers to PM me or post here their interest here in a free Uni.
if no cookers want it, then i'll accept interest from anyone else that cares to have ask for it.
p.s.
my partner upgraded to a Samsung Omnia, if anyone wants a free Nokia 7710 give me a prod
I'll take both, cover shipping, and give you something for your troubles if you u have them.
-Mc
I am very interested!
Hope you consider this request
%Thanks in advance
some people already PM'ing and posting here.
i'll keep the option open for a single week to let more prospective people get a chance as i want the devices to go to the best person for the greater good.
all people responding are automatically "on the list" to be chosen.
happy bidding (wait, wrong website)
greeting from hong kong
looking for replacement for my uni. my uni RIP need to rewrite boot loader
first i have to say that you must be the kindest soul in the human race to want to give your handsets FOR FREE and not sell them on ebay..
and second becouse i loved it,becouse i admired it and becouse i cant live without a touch screen and i want it like mad.. PLEASE SEND ME THE NOKIA
cheers.
ps
i live in london
well i believe the small amount of money i could sell it for on Ebay (a few hundred dollars AU) and how i could invest that much money, compared to some that can actually use a free device for the greater good is no comparison for me.
there's an Ebay sale HERE where the person has a great offer for a complete Uni with accessories, for a reasonable price.
seriously the value of a few hundred bucks means little to me compared to the value of the device in the best hands.
think of it like:
*giving $300 to a starving stranded man on an island.....or giving him a $50 picnic hamper.
*or, a wealthy person giving $10 to someone in need, compared to a poor person giving $10 to someone even more in need.
there are many energy forms of value, depends who you're relating to and how. that much money in my life isn't worth much, those devices in other lives could mean a lot.
So there's no loss for me, i've already gained enormously from the device and i already have a replacement. i have an efficient upgrade.
someone can benefit a free device/s and gain enormously. an efficient upgrade too.
just sharing the energy
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first i have to say that you must be the kindest soul in the human race to want to give your handsets FOR FREE and not sell them on ebay..
and second becouse i loved it,becouse i admired it and becouse i cant live without a touch screen and i want it like mad.. PLEASE SEND ME THE NOKIA
cheers.
ps
i live in london
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well consider yourself on the list simply by your interest
i'm glad there are people wanting the Nokia, i thought it would be difficult to find interest as it is a phone that not many people liked when it came out.
i'm happy these devices will goto good homes
Sent you a message, No matter who you pick you're doing something that deserves respect, so you have mine.
I resent just now, let me know if you received it properly.
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Sent you a message, No matter who you pick you're doing something that deserves respect, so you have mine.
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hmm....haven't received any PM, but no matter as your interest here is noted. just let me know which device/s your were interested in
try PM again, if no success just post here.
Hello, that's a very generous thing from you, there should be more people like you out there
I would like to have your UNI, but reading the forums here I saw theseas's posts about being scammed by shakal007, so it seems he lost his UNI. I don't know, but maybe he could get a replacement by you If he wanted, of course....
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Hello, that's a very generous thing from you, there should be more people like you out there
I would like to have your UNI, but reading the forums here I saw theseas's posts about being scammed by shakal007, so it seems he lost his UNI. I don't know, but maybe he could get a replacement by you If he wanted, of course....
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I think this is a very good idea as well, it must be bad to loose something this way in good faith!
regards
Jay
User665 said:
Sent you a message, No matter who you pick you're doing something that deserves respect, so you have mine.
I resent just now, let me know if you received it properly.
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received and replied
Wow! I agree with the person that said you have to be the kindest soul. You're a shining example of niceness and I hope it rubs off on all of us. Thanks for your shining presence.
Is it G4 or G3?
Cotulla said:
Is it G4 or G3?
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hmm... been a while since i knew, remind me what the easiest way to check is?
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hmm... been a while since i knew, remind me what the easiest way to check is?
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Put it in bootloader mode. You can see small note at the bottom of the screen, if it starts from 1, then its G3. If it starts from 2, then its G4.
satanisme said:
Put it in bootloader mode. You can see small note at the bottom of the screen, if it starts from 1, then its G3. If it starts from 2, then its G4.
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ah, yes that rings a bell
The Uni a G3.
info added to main post.​
Hi
Any news on the winner?
Please let me be me to win the nokia

Tracking Your Phone..

Hey everyone one I just Got a t-mobile Touch PRo 2 its expensive and i am looking for a tracking program or app that i can download to my mobile so if anyone steals it i can locate them and get it back..
4 programs
1 - Remote tracker
2 - Phone Creep
3 - smart phone tracker
4 - smart protect
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1 - Remote tracker
2 - Phone Creep
3 - smart phone tracker
4 - smart protect
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Do u have the link to get anyone of these programs?
1.ultimate theft alert
2.sprite terminator
3.guard mobile (maspware)
x3lillebronjames21 said:
Do u have the link to get anyone of these programs?
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Try looking HERE .
SecretAgentMan said:
Try looking HERE .
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It never ceases to amaze me the type of dickheads that be on xda! If you aint gonna help dude out by posting legitimate links, then don't post anything at all.
well, i never ceases to amaze me how people these days just EXPECT someone to bow down and do everything for them.
if you know what youre looking for find it and make it work. this isnt the 8th grade anymore, nobody's going to hold your hand and do it for you.
these guys gave him plenty of suggestions and program names.
heres another good one, its available on the marketplace for FREE
Microsoft My Phone.
this one is especially good because you back everything up online.
if you find your phone or get a new one you just download everything back onto it.
djinfamousflo said:
well, i never ceases to amaze me how people these days just EXPECT someone to bow down and do everything for them.
if you know what youre looking for find it and make it work. this isnt the 8th grade anymore, nobody's going to hold your hand and do it for you.
these guys gave him plenty of suggestions and program names.
heres another good one, its available on the marketplace for FREE
Microsoft My Phone.
this one is especially good because you back everything up online.
if you find your phone or get a new one you just download everything back onto it.
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Ain't nobody asking any1 to bow down. If you know the answer to his question and wanna help him out then post the links he's asking for. If not then don't reply at all. For every 1 person on xda that actually wants to help you got 10-15 dumb ****s that be posting stupid ass comments.
SecretAgentMan said:
Try looking HERE .
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[email protected]!king hilarious!!
julez456 said:
Ain't nobody asking any1 to bow down. If you know the answer to his question and wanna help him out then post the links he's asking for. If not then don't reply at all. For every 1 person on xda that actually wants to help you got 10-15 dumb ****s that be posting stupid ass comments.
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You forgot about the 4-5 people that then ***** about people posting stupid ass comments.
I'll let someone else handle the total abuse of the English language.
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Try looking HERE .
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Respect !
Too many 'tards on this forum clogging the pages.
I mean, who'd be so green to think they're getting their phone back after it's stolen? The police aren't interested in your car when it gets taken, even if it is an "expensive one". And your phone costs less than a single tyre for that car.
And if you're thinking of getting it back yourself then you'll have to be pretty 'ard. In fact so 'ard that no one would steal it in the first place lol
Anyway, I don't know about your country's (I have my suspicions) TMobile but in my land when you report a phone stolen ALL of the networks block it. So anyone who knows their s**t will take it to another country to sell.
So how much do you want to spend on airplane tickets ?
Why not just get insurance, it's worked for car owners before. Or you could try not worrying about it, maybe you'll lead a happier life lol
XDA is emulating PPCGeeks more and more each day.
MBK
So which default to Tower location if no GPS?
1 - Remote tracker
2 - Phone Creep
3 - smart phone tracker
4 - smart protect
5 - ultimate theft alert
6 - sprite terminator
7 - guard mobile (maspware)
Which of these will default to tower or triangulated location if no GPS fix available? I use Terminator but it requires GPS lock. Looking for alternative to AT&T FamilyMap that will try to use GPS but still provide a position circle if GPS cannot lock. Need to track Tilt 2, Fuze, and Moto Tundra (non WM). Don't even mind payng for an app (one-time) versus $15/month for FamilyMap.
Peter
i like getting on websites and talking sh!t to people for fun...when i 1st came to this site, i didnt do it b/c everyone was extremely helpful and courteous...alas, now it seem the assholes have run amuck...
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Which of these will default to tower or triangulated location if no GPS fix available? Peter
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Smartphonetracker

Your worst nightmare. Lost phone.

I've had the HD2 since November. This forum has been a revelation. But a few hours ago I lost the phone. It's gone for good. No insurance, no location software, unlocked, 16gb sd card. Adios amigo.
Perhaps not my finest hour. Sadly, I wasn't even drunk. Just fell out of my pocket in the taxi cab. It seems some people in Poland aren't that honest. I contacted the actual cab 20min later through the company but it wasn't there.
Anyway, I still consider myself a lucky guy. This was my first foray into the world of smartphones and through an almost free upgrade on t-mobile uk i got the phone for only 100gbp (+40 for the sd card). I bought a few apps and pirated quite a few more, so perhaps this is karma at work.
Writing this is somewhat therapeutic for me but the need to find a replacement is paramount so this also allows all you guys to share your wisdom, if you will..
No other phone matches the HD2 for screen size. It's pure luxury - ok its not AMOLED, but I've looked just now - and AMOLED is maxed at 3.7" - a significant downgrade.
The other issue is the pirating of software. I know it's wrong but I think we can all agree it's the most convenient way to test apps before buying.
However, WMP7S has left me somewhat unimpressed, I think Android is where it's at right now - development is on fire on that platform. Am I wrong? should I wait to see what happens on wm7 - i suspect that would take a year at least
So what are my options? Whichever phone I pick must be supported by XDA.... (I know I don't have many posts yet, but I chose my name for a reason... )
HTC Desire? HTC Bravo? Samsung Pico (Projector phone!!!) What's coming up?
I suspect this is the year of the smartphone and my academic year is almost up so I can perhaps hold off until the summer before buying. (Back to my w810 - still the toughest phone ever built imo)
Thanks for listening and hopefully replying.... time to roll...
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....I... pirated quite a few more (apps)..., ..
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You absolutely will not win many friends on here with the statement above.
WB
I'm not proud but I'm not rich either - I'm trying to do Med School on the cheap and its not easy. If a simple google search gives me free software, only a fool would say no.
This has only been a brief visit to the Windows platform since Windows 7 came out. For 3 years prior to that I was using linux.
Virtually all the apps I use regularly,eg FPSECE, I paid for the supporter version. There's plenty of programs that don't survive more than 2 weeks.
I apologise to anyone who may feel insulted. My intent is not to steal, but to get value for money.
Is this further weight to switch to Open platforms?
HTC Supersonic
problem solved - just have to wait again
Try out the 'premium features' on htt p://myphone.microsoft.c om/
Lock your phone
Lock your phone so that it cannot be used by anyone else. You can also enter a message to display on your phone's screen to tell the finder how to contact you.
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And that's if it can't be found through GPS...
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If a simple google search gives me free software, only a fool would say no.
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You can Google a lot of things. So you should steal them? No need to respond. Just wait 10 years when you have your own medical practice and you start getting people stiffing you on the bill. They probably found your location via Google.
Touche, and a fair point. I wont try to defend piracy with any real heart - I accept it's wrong even if the end justifies the means ('end' being good software, 'means' being fracturing a few rules)
Thanks for the MyPhone tip - I've locked the phone at least.
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I had a crack on my screen, it wasn't too bad and I took it to a repair place to get it fixed and they were ummming and arrring about doing it and I took the phone back and on my way across the room I dropped it and the screen shattered completely... aghhhhhhhhhhh
Then I woke up with rapid breathing and the first thing I thought was "oh thank <censored> it was just a dream/nightmare"...
LOL
willgill said:
You can Google a lot of things. So you should steal them? No need to respond. Just wait 10 years when you have your own medical practice and you start getting people stiffing you on the bill. They probably found your location via Google.
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wrong post, sorry......
Starfury said:
I had a crack on my screen, it wasn't too bad and I took it to a repair place to get it fixed and they were ummming and arrring about doing it and I took the phone back and on my way across the room I dropped it and the screen shattered completely... aghhhhhhhhhhh
Then I woke up with rapid breathing and the first thing I thought was "oh thank <censored> it was just a dream/nightmare"...
LOL
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Hahaha OMG I also had a nightmare about my phone being damaged some days ago, and just like you when I woke up I thanked the lords
We are so obsessed xD

[Q] Survery from Motorola about the Atrix??

Sorry bout the spelling on title, should be survey.. haha.. couldn't edit the title after posting.. noooooooooeeeezzzzz... but anyways..
Ok, I got this email from Motorola & Head Research.. anyone else get this email asking them for their opinion on the Atrix??
Why am I receiving this email?
We are conducting an important research study with users of the Motorola Atrix smartphone.
If you qualify, upon completion of your telephone interview we will send you $100!
We have hired Head Research and GfK, independent professional marketing research firms, to recruit and interview people about their experiences with the Motorola Atrix smartphone. Your input will help Motorola Mobility make decisions about the design and features of future versions of this smartphone. If you qualify, upon completion of your telephone interview, we will send you $100 USD to thank you for your participation.
How do I qualify?
At a minimum, you must have a telephone other than your Motorola Atrix that you can talk on without interruption for 60 minutes on March 28th or March 29th. To determine whether you meet our full eligibility criteria, please click on the following link to complete a short questionnaire – once you click on the link, you will be taken to the Head Research Motorola Atrix Survey website. The questionnaire should take no more than 2 to 3 minutes of your time to complete and all of your responses will be held strictly confidential.
Click on the following link to start your survey (if the link is broken across two lines or doesn't work when you click on it, copy the entire URL and paste it directly into your web browser):
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Didn't receive one here, but if I had, I would have no problem telling them what I really think about their locked bootloader policy, design flaws, etc.
100 bucks for an hour survey... I'd be all over that! ;p
unfortunatly, alot of people must of wanted to tell them what they thought of the Atrix, as I did the quick questions, and they stated that they already reached their quota for the survey..
out of $100, awwww man!!.. haha..
got that yesterday, tried to get in, but as soon as i said i didn't have the laptop dock they said "thanks we're full".
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got that yesterday, tried to get in, but as soon as i said i didn't have the laptop dock they said "thanks we're full".
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Yup, same for me.. guess they want people that have the laptop dock.. or it really did get full fast.. haha..
what were the quick questions?
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got that yesterday, tried to get in, but as soon as i said i didn't have the laptop dock they said "thanks we're full".
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Samsung did the same when I bought my Galaxy S, they even called me up for some more details about my answers.
And got the $ 6 weeks later
Dear Moto,
this is how you should be running your cellphone bizness:
unlock the damn bootloader
let them have the kernel source
the devs are willing to fix the mess you created with the blur crap
if you need to save money somewhere then fire the whole team that does blur, AND the guy that decided to lock up the bootloader / kernel
go ahead and make like 1 phone that runs win phone 7 so microsoft doesnt come after you a55
I guarentee you this will work, and don't forget to give me a job after.
k thx bye
I just got this email the other day. Im probably going to go ahead and do it
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
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I just got this email the other day. Im probably going to go ahead and do it
Sent from my MB860 using XDA Premium App
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Per my answers, they stated they reached their quota.. hopefully you can get in, maybe they didn't like that I didn't buy the laptop dock, as that was one of their questions, if I had the laptop dock..
dLo GSR said:
what were the quick questions?
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Basic question.. ie..
Who bought the Phone...
Who made the decision to buy the phone...
Is this your phone(shows picture of Atrix)...
did you buy the laptop dock(shows picture of the laptop dock)...
what day can we call you(give you a choice of 28th & 29th of March, I chose both)..
what time can we call you...
then I got shot down that the quota was full for the survey..
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Per my answers, they stated they reached their quota.. hopefully you can get in, maybe they didn't like that I didn't buy the laptop dock, as that was one of their questions, if I had the laptop dock..
Basic question.. ie..
Who bought the Phone...
Who made the decision to buy the phone...
Is this your phone(shows picture of Atrix)...
did you buy the laptop dock(shows picture of the laptop dock)...
what day can we call you(give you a choice of 28th & 29th of March, I chose both)..
what time can we call you...
then I got shot down that the quota was full for the survey..
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Yeah right, I'm sure they just want feedback from people who are actually getting the "full" experience this phone can offer via the laptop dock. But for the people who just wanted a really good phone they don't care to hear about it. Makes me wonder, is there anyone with the "tethering" package getting capped as well? I don't remember anyone specifically pointing that out....
I also got this email, but got it on March 18th. Signed up right away but havent heard anything bacck yet.

Microsoft knows where you are.....

So, wp7 also tracks location, just like android and iphone, and it uploads said tracking data to ms servers,....... anyone scared??
theregister. co.uk/2011/04/27/windows_phone_location_tracking/
Let me think about that for a minute... No...
samsamuel said:
So, wp7 also tracks location, just like android and iphone, and it uploads said tracking data to ms servers,....... anyone scared??
theregister. co.uk/2011/04/27/windows_phone_location_tracking/
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It looks like Google, Apply, and Microsoft are all making money off of us just carring our devices around. I want my roralty check please.
ah, so they are....so do the credit card companies....and the network carriers oh and you should know the kind of information those wee loyalty cards for supermarkets gather is staggering
I couldnt care less to be honest, the whole point of this is that yes infomation about you is taken and stored on a gigantic scale, but that info on my credit cards, my store cards my carrier usage and my WP7 isnt available to anyone but the servers they reside on.
That is the fundermental difference between MS and Apple.
you steal my phone ill be pissed off, you steal an iphone and potentially someone could find a lot about my movments.
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Let me think about that for a minute... No...
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Hehe, no me either, just a conv starter.
On a related note, police have been using the iPhone location list (held on the phone itself, unlike wp7) to tie user to location when investigating crimes, tomtom have sold harvested driving data to Dutch police who have used it to set up speed trap stings, and two women have filed a $50mil suit against Google for harvesting their data.(not gonna fly, of course, but interesting none the less) a few days after a similar suit against apple.
As per above post tho, store cards are the big one, hugely intrusive, many hundreds of terrabytes of info every year.
WOW this is crazy information! How are they making money off us carrying their phone around?
Makes me think of that book in 1994 big brother! Only now big brother uses a larger camera with a better zoom! Crazy!
[email protected] said:
WOW this is crazy information! How are they making money off us carrying their phone around?
Makes me think of that book in 1984 big brother! Only now big brother uses a larger camera with a better zoom! Crazy!
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fixed.
And they make money by sending adds to your phone. In the future if they know where you are they can send adds from nearby shops to your device. Yup you are paying them to send you spam.
Spam but maybe not
Well if they actually get it right then maybe the ads will be helpful.
If I am in the mall to buy a pair of Jean and I get a link sent to my phone telling me that I can get 15% off at this store and 2 for 1 at that store, well good for me and them.
Also I live a vanilla life so who cares; the only people that are worried are the pervs, cheaters, and such that are afraid of getting caught.
Now I wouldn't mind that much as long as it was pertinent to my needs and consistent with my location and timing. How are you getting those ads? Texts?
I've been getting a bunch of spam calls and texts here lately and I do not list my cell number anywhere! So it must be from WP7. Am I right? I mean my number is listed in the donotcall.gov
Wow I didn't know they track android to.
Well now everyone knows that Windows Phone tracks your location and it will be saved.
Now the question is: Does anyone know how to turn it off? ^^
samsamuel said:
So, wp7 also tracks location, just like android and iphone, and it uploads said tracking data to ms servers,....... anyone scared??
theregister. co.uk/2011/04/27/windows_phone_location_tracking/
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If you read that article and most importand others like that in the web you will be notice that:
1. Apple - Tracks you and keep the data for a year or more. And the most importand is that
anyone who can get the hands on your phone can see all the places you where
for a year !!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Android - Keeps your data for a week
3. WP7 --Keeps ONLY one record and it replace it with the next one
THATS THE BIG DIFFERENTS
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3. WP7 --Keeps ONLY one record and it replace it with the next one.
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Got a source for that, please? ( not that I doubt you, just only seen "unspecified time" and "short period of time" and nothing saying one overwrites the previous one)?
Cheers
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Got a source for that, please? ( not that I doubt you, just only seen "unspecified time" and "short period of time" and nothing saying one overwrites the previous one)?
Cheers
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Yes m8 ...i have the source ..its a source that i trust for some 20 years now...
Its Zdnet PC Magazine
from the article "
Microsoft told PCMag unequivocally that phones running Windows Phone 7 do not store location history
Microsoft says its "Find My Phone" service keeps only the phone's most recent location."
The big picture here is that Apple has lie on this matter ...
Six months ago when they say (i think) in a congress hearing that "We are not tracking location at all"
And still they say the same lie in a recent article in the "Apple's Media Center" aka Engadget blog..
This is a big big problem for me....
If anyone who can have my phone for 1 min can see where i was for the last 6 moths or a year with every detail in map....oh man ...this is bad .
This Orwel Big Brother mutliply x 1000. We have to fight against this.
The big blogs arrount the net have made a kind of omerta on this ...just an article and no more.
Probably the adds (money) from Apple are to big to start a fight ...
But this is not journalism... OK Apple is cool ..but where is your integridy as writer or as big internet blog ????
Where are all those guys that tear apart MS or any other company for minors problem ????
Thats the problem for me...Apple did this without anyone knows about it and is still deny it.
This a big big trust issue
colossus
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WOW this is crazy information! How are they making money off us carrying their phone around?
Makes me think of that book in 1994 big brother! Only now big brother uses a larger camera with a better zoom! Crazy!
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Seriously you didn't realize this? Have you not read any of the articles blaring security issues regarding credit card and smartphone data tracking and mining? Where have you been? You use a smartphone and you never thought about this?
Not only are you ignorant on the George Orwell's 1984, but you're oblivious to the impact of all this tech on privacy! Geez! It's DOH! and DUH! I guess the credit card and tech companies love you!!!! The typical blind sheep being led by multi-national corporations and governments.
officialbambam said:
Wow I didn't know they track android to.
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Again...seriously? Geez Louise...the drones of society using tech without a care in the world.
colossus_r said:
Yes m8 ...i have the source ..its a source that i trust for some 20 years now...
Its Zdnet PC Magazine
from the article "
Microsoft told PCMag unequivocally that phones running Windows Phone 7 do not store location history
Microsoft says its "Find My Phone" service keeps only the phone's most recent location."
The big picture here is that Apple has lie on this matter ...
Six months ago when they say (i think) in a congress hearing that "We are not tracking location at all"
And still they say the same lie in a recent article in the "Apple's Media Center" aka Engadget blog..
This is a big big problem for me....
If anyone who can have my phone for 1 min can see where i was for the last 6 moths or a year with every detail in map....oh man ...this is bad .
This Orwel Big Brother mutliply x 1000. We have to fight against this.
The big blogs arrount the net have made a kind of omerta on this ...just an article and no more.
Probably the adds (money) from Apple are to big to start a fight ...
But this is not journalism... OK Apple is cool ..but where is your integridy as writer or as big internet blog ????
Where are all those guys that tear apart MS or any other company for minors problem ????
Thats the problem for me...Apple did this without anyone knows about it and is still deny it.
This a big big trust issue
colossus
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Good choice of reading,,,, there's a good editorial on theregister about the legality of even collection, let alone using data harvested from a phone, since it is covered by different laws than, say, a computer, since it falls under the telecommunications act
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/02/device_data_collection
T-Macgnolia said:
It looks like Google, Apply, and Microsoft are all making money off of us just carring our devices around. I want my roralty check please.
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u'd be surprised , but its not voluntarily done , its the law in the usa they have to track you by telecommunication act 1996 , in effect from 2001 , a phone cant be sold in usa if it doesnt comply
souljaboy said:
u'd be surprised , but its not voluntarily done , its the law in the usa they have to track you by telecommunication act 1996 , in effect from 2001 , a phone cant be sold in usa if it doesnt comply
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I will have to try to do some reading on that act, thanks for the info.
But even though it is something mandated doesn't mean that the OS makers Apply, Google, and Microsoft are just doing it because of that. Trust me there are hidden agendas here with this whole location tracking thing be it from the government or the private sector.
George OrWell must of been able to see into the future. LOL
samsamuel said:
Good choice of reading,,,, there's a good editorial on theregister about the legality of even collection, let alone using data harvested from a phone, since it is covered by different laws than, say, a computer, since it falls under the telecommunications act
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/05/02/device_data_collection
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Nice find m8..full of info in the matter...thanks...
Just an update on apples reaction ...Its a big problem for them sinse the are ready (so soon)
to release a new version of iOs to fix the location problem...
If am not mistaken its the first time that apple has reacted so fast on problem...
colossus

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