hi!
So I can upgrade to Note 3 for about $150 and would like to know, how the experience has been for you guys.
Coming from Rom and kernel flashing addiction I might feel a bit trapped with note 3 but then again, with so much power, OCing may not be as exciting as it was on Note 2 to run MAME reloaded for example or some higher end games.
Thanks for any comments.
Regards
I had note 2 and now note 3. Used to run clean rom on note 2 and loved it. After upgraded to note 3, I realized that I don't need any custom rom or kernel on this phone. It's perfect with just rooted, debloated and wanam exposed. Everything I want the phone to be and very happy with it.
That being said, I still do miss flashing custom rom though. Hope near future, we can get unlocked bootloader
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Only thing I miss is playing around with OC'ing. Not really necessary on the 3. Really was not necessary on the 2 either.
Non of the ROM's could compare to the stock debloated ROM on the note 2 for battery life (they were close), and I would expect similar results if we were to get the boot loader unlocked. The difference was small so the features/benefits of a custom ROM far outweighed staying stock.
With root and xposed modules on the note 3, don't see the need to flash a custom ROM. A custom kernel would be nice though that would allow Playing with clock speeds and the like.
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I agree with what everyone said. I remember you from the Note 2 threads, and I know you were in the kernel threads quite a bit helping people out and maxing out your Note 2, lol.
I honestly don't see any lag whatsoever with rooting, debloating, and using wanam exposed like the guys above mentioned. I never even used xposed installer or wanam until I got the note 3. I'm actually surprised I never tried it on the Note 2. It's very useful. I guess I never had to considering I was always flashing roms and themes that took care of the customizations.
$150 is worth the upgrade in my honest opinion. I'm sure somewhere somehow a bootloader unlock is around the corner in some computer genius's lair, lol. Despite that, you won't be disappointed with the stock. I use Nova Launcher and customized my DPI with xposed and rom toolbox lite. Really makes everything look great to me. Everything works just like on my Note 2, even flash. Just make a titanium backup of your Note 2 for your apps and make sure that folder is on your sdcard, then transfer that folder to your sdcard and your phone memory, and you're good to restore. Unless you prefer starting fresh, up to you. I restored my Nova launcher preferences with the apps quite easily to keep the same look. So it wasn't a big change for me visually except a much crisper screen. The camera is amazing. I've taken 4K video and it's just great. Battery life is solid too despite being stock. It also is lighter than the Note 2 so that's a plus as well.
Thanks all guys. I am close to pulling the trigger now. It was not in my mind because my biggest wish was a 6" screen but for $150, it is more tempting now
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Thanks all guys. I am close to pulling the trigger now. It was not in my mind because my biggest wish was a 6" screen but for $150, it is more tempting now
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As long as you can root it (I found the MI9 de la vega files archived on other sites), I find the N3 much superior to the N2. Better screen (much better outdoors), better in-hand feel, better S-view cover and back material, and about the same battery life (though that's a custom ROM N2 vs. stock ROM N3).
For me, rooting is needed to lower the dpi to an appropriate value as the stock 480 wastes so much of the screen. If I had to pick between a customized N2 and a totally stock N3, that'd be a harder decision for me.
One other oddity I've found is that many of the videos that played fine on HW decoding on my Note 2 require SW decoding on the Note 3 (mostly for sound, but sometimes for video as well). Not a big deal as the quality is the same and the Note 3 has power to spare, but just a bit odd.
The occasional security prevention message is annoying, but it's easy enough to long press, clear data, and have it disappear for a while. Generally comes back after a reboot and I have to do the above again.
Like mutantblack, I use to have note 2 with Clean Rom. Never needed a rom but Clean Rom was simply awesome. It saved me a lot of time debloating. Now with note 3, root+wanam+xposed is like Clean Rom all over again.
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As long as you can root it (I found the MI9 de la vega files archived on other sites), I find the N3 much superior to the N2. Better screen (much better outdoors), better in-hand feel, better S-view cover and back material, and about the same battery life (though that's a custom ROM N2 vs. stock ROM N3).
For me, rooting is needed to lower the dpi to an appropriate value as the stock 480 wastes so much of the screen. If I had to pick between a customized N2 and a totally stock N3, that'd be a harder decision for me.
One other oddity I've found is that many of the videos that played fine on HW decoding on my Note 2 require SW decoding on the Note 3 (mostly for sound, but sometimes for video as well). Not a big deal as the quality is the same and the Note 3 has power to spare, but just a bit odd.
The occasional security prevention message is annoying, but it's easy enough to long press, clear data, and have it disappear for a while. Generally comes back after a reboot and I have to do the above again.
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Hey man I'm gonna take it from your post your rooted...Just download root app delete from the play store...Open it up...Go into system apps...and disable all 4 Knox apps...Once they're disabled those messages will dissappear...
As to the op...I still have my att note 2 and now have att note 3...The biggest improvements for me are the camera, which is so much better than note 2 in terms of clarity, speed, and color reproduction it's amazing...2nd is the s pen finally has the precision and feel of true writing...lastly is the experience of tw; on note 2 I found I needed apex launcher and many rooted customizations to make the note 2 perform how I felt it should given its already great hardware. With note 3 I still run apex occasionally but love the improved tw experience, lag free, fast, and clean on note 3
What I miss of note 2, the battery life. The batter life on my Note 2 was astounding. With note 3 I find I only get about 3 to 4 hours of on screen time vs 5 to 5.5 hours on note 2. But this can be remedied with another backup batter and for all the note 3 offers in terms of speed, gorgeous 1080 screen, and features galore it's an easy tradeoff.
So summing up, note 2 was a major bump over note 1, but note 3 set a new standard in my eyes for what a super phone is. Note 3 hands down...and in time I feel well have some form of cwm and romming but maybe not at the level of note 2, though as others have mentioned it's really not necessary anymore. Samsung hit it outta the park with note 3.
Mega
Remember you can always buy a T-mobie note 3 and run it on ATT AMD then you can still flash your Roms and kernels. You could get your ATT upgrade then sell that for a T-Mobile device, that's what I did.
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The stock rom runs better than a few custom roms,.... However we do not have custom kernels nor can we flash different ROM due to the boot loader being locked. In my opinion the phone is a lot snappier smooth here and the screen is a helluva lot better. Remote control features amazin and the battery is even better than my note 2. However route is a must and either the leading or freezing the extra bloatware is necessary to achieve such performance
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I had note 2 and now note 3. Used to run clean rom on note 2 and loved it. After upgraded to note 3, I realized that I don't need any custom rom or kernel on this phone. It's perfect with just rooted, debloated and wanam exposed. Everything I want the phone to be and very happy with it.
That being said, I still do miss flashing custom rom though. Hope near future, we can get unlocked bootloader
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Yes yes and yes agreed with that I upgraded and paided for the full 750 I know I know lol but I think it was worth it here's a couple of more things to Note
1. The screen is drop dead gorgeous!! Omfg I love this screen!!
2.Its faster "duh"
3.The camrea is very good too!! Love the camera )
4. Same battery life "CANT WAIT for ZeroLemon and case!!
Its up to you but yes I think its worth enough
As a former note2 owner who bought the note3 on release day, I think it boils down to how important flashing custom roms is to you. I have my note3 rooted and really debloated and it is running awesome. And I thought that would be good enough for me. But last week I bought an LGG2 so that I could continue flashing and tweaking stuff. Even though this phone is the perfect hardware I am really irritated that I am not allowed to choose what software to run on it. So tomorrow when the g2 arrives this phone will probably go into a desk drawer or to one of my kids until someone can resolve the custom recovery issue.
But this is a hobby for me. Im the guy who installs whatever the latest distro of Linux came out this month and I rarely have a machine running the same distro longer than 90 days. ..so im kind of a freak like that.
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How did you get the 150 upgrade offer?
Sorry it was not an offer, I was calculating selling mine and getting a used note 3.
Note 2 with cm 11 kit kat was awsome. Daughter broke phone and insurance sent the 3. Sucks with locked bootloader.
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With Xposed, Wanam, Safe Strap, Apex or other decent launcher and a Kit Kat theme or two there REALLY isnt a need for custom roms. The Note 3 can have pretty much any system mod and tweak any rom would bring and you wont lose the IR Blaster support thats built in and Safe Strap allows you the capability to backup the current state before tweaking.
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I ended up going a different way after all as you can see on my sig. Maybe Note 4 but I am getting so used to the huge Xperia Z Ultra that not sure anymore.
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I've had the Note 2 now since the release in the UK and all I can say is perfection! The barrery life is the best I have ever had! Normally end day at work still on 80-90% (My One X would be dead!)
It is smooth as silk everything works as it should! Its got the latest software already on there...
Im normally the first to root and custom rom and get rid of everything to keep pure google..but with this I dont even feel like putting on a custom rom simply worried that it may ruin it!??? Anyone else keeping away from modding their device or is it just me??
Yep. Dont see the need so far.
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I can understand you, but I rooted the fcuk out of it as soon as I got it! Too many hexcellent apps out there that demand root
Have to agree.
I've not even bothered rooting it yet, which I'd normally do on day 1, and I'm now on day 8.
I will still root at some point though, mostly for the root only apps though.
Note 2 - Android how it should be done!
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Dave
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Pure perfection does not exist but like most here I guess there is general concensus that this is truly an amazing device we got. Though to myself how boring something that works as good as that. Anyway I use omega and also perseus kernel lovely if you want to try OC an its limit though its fast enough or even beter under volting and this furthermore seems to show how great the HW is.
Things I just dont like is the high 320 dpi funny on tab 7.7 it was too low now here to big for my taste....so waiting with hope to see changes there dreaming about paranoid with full pen support.....
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I haven't modified or put any custom ROM every in my life and won't do it on my Note II as well.
The simpler it is, the better it is.
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+1 I agree fully, this is the best out of the box Samsung device i ever had. Do not feel the need to root at all, let alone flash a custom rom wich atm adds nothing to what we allready have. Kudoz to Sammy in this case
yep agree, no need for a Custom Rom on this. It has everything you need.
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For the moment I don't think root is necessary (i can live with titanium apps not being restored, can be manually done but without its data).
I think I will root only if development breaks through the split screen multitasking to add more apps into it.
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I rooted it but after using a couple different roms I don't see any need for them. I really only wanted root to be able to remove anything I really didn't need and to be able to use any apps that require root. I might eventually use a custom kernel but that's pretty much it.
I have no desire to root my Note 2 at this time as it does everything I want from it and does so seamlessly.
Once I have my T-Mobile provided Note 2 I may well keep the international/unlocked version to toy with new ROM's and root apps. Selling this unit OTOH puts $$ back in my pocket. To be decided later. My daily carry Note 2 will remain factory stock unless a firmware update reduces its versatility or usability.
I will get my Note2 later today and the first thing i will do is root the baby. If it was only for Adfree Android and some other indispensable applications.
I will see about aftermarket ROM's later. It will depend on the usability. And if I hear you guys talking about I think that won't happen for a while.:laugh:
Rooted 15 minutes after I opened the box. I needed to transfer data from my s3
That's the only thing that is badly needed to this android. Anything else can be avoided even from a flash addict like me. ( a flash my nexus 7 twice a day to keep me sane )
There are some useful mods like skip track , call recording etc. I am with wanam 1.1 and everything looks great.
Rom is a choice for note 2 but root is necessity for android.
Come on, you are in xda , you hold an android device , chainfire already gave root and you want to stay unrooted?
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I have bricked my first Note because of flashing addiction first and because of trying to get rid of some of its shortcomings like slow Contact app scrolling etc.now that the new one adressed all of the issues I was complaining from I didnt even see a need for a root so far, the stock ROM seems to be sufficient enogh.
I root all my devices, usually for AdAway, hate ads when browsing. Titanium backup pro as well for back ups. Usually custom roms and kernels bring user fixes to shortcomings in OEM software.
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Yea this phone is really amazing. My only gripe atm is no polaris office which I was sorta expecting. Hopefully soon they will release it. But having to switch from S3 to Note2 I am really satisfied.
With s3 i had to custom rom it on the first day. With this I dont mind the bloat, cause i still have tons of free memory.
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I rooted mainly to swap ext sd with int sd so I can install more stuff
also i cant live without the 15toggle & titanium
Its still as smooth & stable with root. I think samsung has outdone itself this time. This product is just perfect.
The battery life is awsome. it feels like its twice better then Note1.
I gave my wife my SGS III yesterday and got the Note II. I am loving it, right off the bat it does seem smoother than the S3. With that said, I immediately rooted it and installed Omega. Not so much because it needed it, more because I'm pretty much obsessed with the removal of bloatware and apps that I don't use.
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I rooted mainly to swap ext sd with int sd so I can install more stuff
also i cant live without the 15toggle & titanium
Its still as smooth & stable with root. I think samsung has outdone itself this time. This product is just perfect.
The battery life is awsome. it feels like its twice better then Note1.
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I haven't rooted mine. I was also a ROM addict on the S I and S II.
But with this TW build I don't really see a need yet. It's really good. I know a lot of people prefer the stock experience, but I personally like many of Samsungs additions.
And yeah, battery life is amazing. Not having to worry about battery life at all is probably the greatest feature of this phone.
Hi there I'm an owner of a 10 months used galaxy nexus and i've been thinking of buying a new phone as i kinda got bored of stock android and want something different.
I first narrowed my choices down to 2 devices which are considered at one of the best, HTC One, Galaxy S4. I continued searching and asking people about their experiences, and no i'm not an average user i hate lags i don't want them as much as anybody. At first i thought i could live with 4.7 inch screen on htc one for the absent of lags but i just don't think that way anymore.
I even think that 5 inches is small so i actually thought about buying note 3 but since it's a little bit more expensive than s4 in the country i live at, I might have to go for S4.
But my main concern is lag and i read that a lot of people were actually complaining about them. My nexus is rooted so my S4(if i buy one) will be rooted as well and i was wondering if there was actually a way(s) to eliminate all and any lag from that device since that is kinda the main reason i'm switching from GNEX.
Thanks.
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Hi there I'm an owner of a 10 months used galaxy nexus and i've been thinking of buying a new phone as i kinda got bored of stock android and want something different.
I first narrowed my choices down to 2 devices which are considered at one of the best, HTC One, Galaxy S4. I continued searching and asking people about their experiences, and no i'm not an average user i hate lags i don't want them as much as anybody. At first i thought i could live with 4.7 inch screen on htc one for the absent of lags but i just don't think that way anymore.
I even think that 5 inches is small so i actually thought about buying note 3 but since it's a little bit more expensive than s4 in the country i live at, I might have to go for S4.
But my main concern is lag and i read that a lot of people were actually complaining about them. My nexus is rooted so my S4(if i buy one) will be rooted as well and i was wondering if there was actually a way(s) to eliminate all and any lag from that device since that is kinda the main reason i'm switching from GNEX.
Thanks.
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Remove all bloatware and preinstalled apps u don't use etc etc ... since u were rooted u should know the drill to lighten the load ...
If you buy the i9505 u can also install stock android rom just as the i9505g(google edition) has
But if you want touchwiz or any of the samsung features, to my experience and we are talking about stock ... the i9500 seem to have fewer lagging issues ...
I bought my S4 to replace a nexus 4. Had the same boredom feeling about vanilla android experience so I ended up using this i9505. It's a great device IF you manage somehow to deal with lag and stutters all over the place (speaking of Tw stock roms ofc). I really can't understand why a hardware beast like this has to lag more than my very old S2. So, in terms of lag (that was your Q) you'll be disappointed... in all other terms it's still one of the best.
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Hi there I'm an owner of a 10 months used galaxy nexus and i've been thinking of buying a new phone as i kinda got bored of stock android and want something different.
I first narrowed my choices down to 2 devices which are considered at one of the best, HTC One, Galaxy S4. I continued searching and asking people about their experiences, and no i'm not an average user i hate lags i don't want them as much as anybody. At first i thought i could live with 4.7 inch screen on htc one for the absent of lags but i just don't think that way anymore.
I even think that 5 inches is small so i actually thought about buying note 3 but since it's a little bit more expensive than s4 in the country i live at, I might have to go for S4.
But my main concern is lag and i read that a lot of people were actually complaining about them. My nexus is rooted so my S4(if i buy one) will be rooted as well and i was wondering if there was actually a way(s) to eliminate all and any lag from that device since that is kinda the main reason i'm switching from GNEX.
Thanks.
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I considered the HTC one and nexus 4 also, but the S4 screen just looks stunning (even though the HTC's is supposedly better in direct sunlight). The screen looks huge (although its become normal to me now) and even though its not that much bigger than the HTC's, it still looks a lot bigger when side by side.
Its certainly not a slow device and is actually very smooth but you can definitely do plenty to improve things. As mentioned above, I removed a lot of bloat apps that I dont use/won't miss. I also started using greenify to hibernate apps running in the background. Another simple thing is change the animation speeds to 0.5x, I also do this on my nexus 7 as it makes it feel snappier as well (not that its slow). There are also the options of a lot of custom ROMs, some that are simply stock look with touchwiz, but tweaked/optimised for speed/battery life.
There is also the option of AOSP/CM/Google Edition ROMs if you want something leaner. Plus there are a couple of methods of dual booting if you want the best of both worlds. The speed and simplicity of stock android is great, but its also great to enjoy all of the bells and whistle features that Samsung added (that you paid for!).
So are those roms you mentioned that are based on touchwiz lag-free?
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So are those roms you mentioned that are based on touchwiz lag-free?
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There will definitely be a lot less lag than the standard stock ROM, although you'd really need to test yourself to see how they perform for you. There's usually plenty of comments in the ROM threads on how people find them, so they're worth a read.
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To be honest I have a lot less lags with stock rom than with any custom rom (apart from aosp)... I just use rooted stock rom with xposed framework... fast and snappy.. can't complain...
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To be honest I have a lot less lags with stock rom than with any custom rom (apart from aosp)... I just use rooted stock rom with xposed framework... fast and snappy.. can't complain...
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I'm currently on rooted stock also and it's great, if its laggy then its certainly not laggy enough for me to want to keep switching ROMs or even change phone. As much as people say how great sense is on the HTC one, it looks so dull and unfinished to me. And I know it's a real improvement as I've had htcs and seen it go from a rich ui to a bloated clunky mess. But you hand someone your s4 and you usually see how impressed they are with the stunning colourful display.
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Stock rom with Nova Launcher installed has no lag. Touchwhiz launcher is the issue
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Stock rom with Nova Launcher installed has no lag. Touchwhiz launcher is the issue
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Yep, as always Nova is like butter, its a great launcher.
I dont want nova, ive used it with.many other skins and i just dont want to use it. I dont care if people get impressed by it, i want a phone that will keep me for at least a year and a half and i know note 3 seems a abetter solution but without lags, i can still be happy with s4 for a while. What about kernels? Franco kernel for gnex helps a lot as ive used it. What about s4?
Hi all,
I'm thinking to buy a new smartphone and im between nexus 5 and lg g2, i saw many issues about the g2 but i just wanted to ask if there are fixed with the last updates for this phone... i love camera and i saw that the camera was better at g2, can someone help me which one to choose?
Thanks.
Which kind of problems did you read about? Tell me so I can help you.
I'm loving this phone but if you're after the latest and greatest then waiting for the s5 will be better for you.
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Weigh out the pros and cons. In the end, it really comes down to what you want. I suggest playing with both of them in a best buy store since they have the Nexus 5 in the Google section.
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Now i got s4 but i dont like it so much dont know why it doesnt fit me, had nexus 4 before it, now im liking the lg g2, nexus 5 seems to have more issues than the g2.
Some issues that i saw in forum: bad voice call, bad gps, and found this one...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472319
Those issues are not widespread from the post you provided. I don't have most of those issues. IMO, G2 is a step up from Nexus 5. Nexus 5 definitely can't compete with the battery of the G2, or the camera. Also, stock Android is overrated if you ask me. Not every single feature of the G2 is useful, but most of them are. The Nexus 5 hardly has anything special about it.
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Now i got s4 but i dont like it so much dont know why it doesnt fit me, had nexus 4 before it, now im liking the lg g2, nexus 5 seems to have more issues than the g2.
Some issues that i saw in forum: bad voice call, bad gps, and found this one...: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2472319
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I'll let you gain insight into my experience with this device.
Bad voice calls are not an issue. My voice calls are really loud and clear and I use quite some time doing calls. Gps usually locks within a few seconds if I'm about the same position and even when I'm not, it takes no longer than 10 seconds to lock my position.
Regarding that post : well you read how the solution to all those problems was to get a replacement because it's simply not normal for the g2. I do have the stuttering issue with xda-developers app. I don't know why this occured, it wasn't there from the beginning.
That said, do NOT expect upgrades for the G2. If you choose to buy it, you acknowledge to stay on 4.4 (once we receive it) because LG are really bad with updating their phones. If you intend on flashing custom ROM then it shouldn't bother you. Stock is awesome though and has a lot of features.
My two cents
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No, it isn't, yes, it is.
Thanks for the answers and suggestions, still dont know what to do will way a bit...
To me, the LG G2 was worth buying. First phone I chose to go back to stock Rom. After the KitKat update, I'll re-root for sure, but probably stay on stock Rom.
Gosh, I love this phone, it has so many features!
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To me, the LG G2 was worth buying. First phone I chose to go back to stock Rom. After the KitKat update, I'll re-root for sure, but probably stay on stock Rom.
Gosh, I love this phone, it has so many features!
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I have had this device for 2 days coming from an HTC one which died
The htc one is a beautiful device with build quality second to none however, my new G2 has excellent build quality too IMO despite many opinions to the contrary. I intended not to root my device (skygo requires an un-rooted device) but yesterday I went ahead and did so for one reason and one reason only - so that I could use GMD auto hide soft keys pro - an app which enables you to utilise the whole of the screen all of the time.
Now I have a beautiful 5.2 inch screen in a device that is the same size as my previous HTC one which only had 4.7 inches of screen estate. I am very, very happy with my new device in comparison to my previous one which, incidently, cleaned up in the best mobile device awards.
Its down to you lol. I was in the same boat as you but went for the G2. Better battery and bigger screen. Hopefully the 4.4 update will bring a better camera. I think nexus 5 camera is better mainly because it focuses much much quicker. Got my G2 for the same price as a nexus 5
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G2 is definitly worth of buying.
i had the N5 before my G2, and the G2 is far better. The battery life is about double that of the N5, i get on average 6 hrs screen time per day. Also the rear buttons are amazing!:good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good::good:
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I have had this device for 2 days coming from an HTC one which died
The htc one is a beautiful device with build quality second to none however, my new G2 has excellent build quality too IMO despite many opinions to the contrary. I intended not to root my device (skygo requires an un-rooted device) but yesterday I went ahead and did so for one reason and one reason only - so that I could use GMD auto hide soft keys pro - an app which enables you to utilise the whole of the screen all of the time.
Now I have a beautiful 5.2 inch screen in a device that is the same size as my previous HTC one which only had 4.7 inches of screen estate. I am very, very happy with my new device in comparison to my previous one which, incidently, cleaned up in the best mobile device awards.
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I had my G2 rooted too (even flashed Hellfire Rom). But first step was to restore stock Rom and finally I flashed stock software to unroot and reset my device to be prepared for the official OTA update. After the KitKat update, I'll root again to optimize this awesome phone with Xposed modules and Romtoolbox Pro.
But this is just for fun. Basically, the LG G2 is so full of features out of the box together with great hardware that rooting let alone flashing is nothing you have to do to make the G2 awesome. Because it's awesome by nature...
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My brother has the 5 and i have the g2. the funny thing - we both love our phones but we do like each others a little more.
Nexus 5 - P/C's: google created and always up to date, no bloatware, feels a bit better in my hand, [IMO] takes better pictures but the UI leaves many things to be desired, lower battery life. If I had the nexus 5, I'd feel like i would no reason to use a custom ROM, just root and xposed
G2 - P/C's: dat screen size, buttons on the back [if you like that], good battery life, stock bloatware isnt that bad, and the UI as a whole isnt bad, you can get ALMOST the exact feel of the n5 with a kit kat rom [but all the rom related issues ]. I like my g2 but just wish we could get kit kat out officially so I can just root and xposed and i like the blinking button on the top rather than bottom
G2... I love this phone. I have yet to root this thing and I have no complaints. Call quality is great, wifi and 4G perform wonderfully, I noticed that the phone switches between the various modes (4g, 2g, etc) really quickly and I rarely have issues surfing the web. The camera is awesome, the speakerphone is adequate, no buttons on the sides of the phone is awesome, and I prefer the G2 location of the headphone jack at the bottom of the phone. Battery life is insane! I've gone two full days with moderate use (down to 2% before I plugged the phone in), and with heavy use I get at least 28 hours before I see the battery get into the 10-20% range. Finally I can hand my daughter my phone so she can keep herself busy for an hour or so and not worry about having enough juice to make it through the rest of the day.
All of the included apps have added useful features and it seems that they have pulled some of the best/favorite tweaks and made them part of their default app suite. For the first time in quite sometime, I have not felt the need to root or modify the phone, save for that Android soft key bar at the bottom of the screen, I hate that thing. I might root just to run an app that removes it.
I'm not a person that likes to root, i will use it as it is, with stock rom, it's enough to have good call quality, to feel productive with it and have no lag, feeling good in hand, and battery life of course , i'm a designer and i need good camera, and i think it has a great one. thanks all for the comments, i'm going with G2.
hello dear xda community!
it has been a while since i was last here.
i owned a gs2 but made the move to ios with iphone 5 and currently use iphone 6.
I am considering buying note 4 (c variant with exynos)!mostly for the great screen ,battery life and not overheating( almost all other androids can cook your hand)
i lurked around here to do some digging and i keep seeing members having big problems with battery drains, overheating and slow down...( i will be skipping on note 5 as it will not come to europe and mostly because of no removable battery-micro sd)
have i missed something? is the big res scree bogging down the phone?
owning an iphone, performance is a given for me.
Please share your honest views since you own the device and help me make the move!
got sick of same damn thing and restrictions (ios)
My best advice to you would be stick with iOS. I own Note 4. Previously owned lots of flagship android phones and before that iPhone 3GS, 4S and 5S. I will shift to 6S when it will be available in my country because I am tired of bloated SW solutions from big firms and sick of flashing custom roms that almost never match the performanco of camera with stock. iOS is still the best SW you can get and I will stick with it for a while.
Regarding android IMHO Note 4 is the best you can hope taking other 2015 flahships in mind that are not worth the upgrade specialy with SD 810, no microSD and non-replacable battery that is getting smaller and smaller despite constant *****ing about it's insufficiencuy. With latest 5.1.1 it is realy fast, takes great pictures and battery life is awsome. I have no problems with it and till now it is as close to iOS experience as it gets.
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doctor78SI said:
My best advice to you would be stick with iOS. I own Note 4. Previously owned lots of flagship android phones and before that iPhone 3GS, 4S and 5S. I will shift to 6S when it will be available in my country because I am tired of bloated SW solutions from big firms and sick of flashing custom roms that almost never match the performanco of camera with stock. iOS is still the best SW you can get and I will stick with it for a while.
Regarding android IMHO Note 4 is the best you can hope taking other 2015 flahships in mind that are not worth the upgrade specialy with SD 810, no microSD and non-replacable battery that is getting smaller and smaller despite constant *****ing about it's insufficiencuy. With latest 5.1.1 it is realy fast, takes great pictures and battery life is awsome. I have no problems with it and till now it is as close to iOS experience as it gets.
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For the OP!
Stick whit IOS my friend ....
My 910f is realy awsome whit 5.1.1, no overheat, no lag and superb battery, but ios much much better in stabiliti and before android 5.1.1 it has better performance.
you see, the thing is..what made me consider moving was the hideous battery life (iphone battery is epic bad-like..bards would sing of its loussiness).
and couple more every day stuff that really halt your schedule( try attaching two different file types-say 1 xls+1pdf on same mail in ios)
i guess i was hoping that it would be better with note 4, but from what you guys say it lacks stability on a very profound level..
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you see, the thing is..what made me consider moving was the hideous battery life (iphone battery is epic bad-like..bards would sing of its loussiness).
and couple more every day stuff that really halt your schedule( try attaching two different file types-say 1 xls+1pdf on same mail in ios)
i guess i was hoping that it would be better with note 4, but from what you guys say it lacks stability on a very profound level..
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hi ,
i guess there always 2 sides to a story . ?
I have a Note2 , Note3, and ... Note4 ( ........cannot say anything much, about Note5 ..!!)
All my devices battery ( removable ) life is good/acceptable , no overheating , smooth running and customized to my liking !!!!!! This is what i want and enjoying it .!!
I do not own a Iphone and thus cannot say much about it .!!
(Yes ,i have "played around " a few times ,with a Iphone in the phone shops and know its overall feel and workings )
Everytime i just put it down and say no i am happy with my Note4 .
All i can say is , in the end it is "what you want from your device...its you choice ."
So is it an an option ..... to have/own both ?
i want freedom of choice, ( customize etc ) and cannot see myself been tied down .
My message is only ,there nothing "wrong " with Note4
Hardware ,specs , removable battery and to do real multitasking on a device ? ...etc
Also i am on Android v 5.1.1 and device working very, very smooth .No issues .
However i have noticed some forum members have /had certain issues
good luck with your choice .
post entry
my observation of reading post and " my opinion" ,
regarding battery drainage in Note 4 is that a some members have either
3rd party apps or wrong settings or some" mod/theme " on phone responsible for this ( yes, i know not always ) eg facebook, whatsapp , gps location enable ,data always on ,etc... in some setting etc ( battery drainers ) or just badly coded apps or games .sucking away on battery.I had Note4 since October 2014 and had odd battery drain and always ( when investigating ) found 3rd party app or mod eg Xposed framework or module etc responsible for this .
Bottom line ,
is you only read mostly in threads, when members have a "problem " and hardly read post of members that is happy with performance/etc of device ?
good..this is what i want to hear..opinions based on real owner experiences!
just one more question!
is it true that since knox , i cannot root the device without it being permanently recorded? i mean, i remember being to erase such things on gs2 with stuff like triangle away app.. i dont care for flashing roms, rather than using my paid titanium app, adaway,root explorer and be able to freeze bloatware.
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good..this is what i want to hear..opinions based on real owner experiences!
just one more question!
is it true that since knox , i cannot root the device without it being permanently recorded? i mean, i remember being to erase such things on gs2 with stuff like triangle away app.. i dont care for flashing roms, rather than using my paid titanium app, adaway,root explorer and be able to freeze bloatware.
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hi,
yes, thats overall true eg. if you use dev @ chainfire CF auto root it will trip Knox.(this CF auto root method, is what i used overall. except in Android v5.1.1 it does not work so i used another method ) However you do get certain root
methods that won't trip Knox.
Don't ask me what method as i really was never interested in rooting this way.
My personal opinion of Knox is.. i see it as a "bogey man" it does not worry me as i got no interest in Knox features. .. or the attitude... "o what is Samsung warranty going to say.?"
That said...
I do however respect other members view on Knox.!
I wanted to enjoy my user experience and rooted my device way back in October 2014... never looked back.
My viewpoint is,
If something "happens" well then it "happens" an i will deal with it accordingly or get another device.
I just wanted you to get my viewpoint over, that overall Note4 is a very, very capable device..good at multi tasking, good battery use (overall) no overheating issues and very smooth and fast (just tweak right)
Good luck with your choice
to be honest as long as it works and battery performs , i am happy camper..i am familiar with androids plus and minuses..
I wouldn't get it now. On its stock rom the dpi is way too high, everything is so big on the screen and there is no added real estate from a phone such as the S6. As for performance I've never been happy (N910F) until 5.1, but on 5.1 I can't use per app dpi. Do not throw your money at Samsung, opt for a Moto (or even the new Sony Z5 series), they're much more consistent performers. You could even wait for the new Nexus 5 or 6 coming out next month which will have biometric sensors. The one on the Note 4 sucks haha.
If you want to use the Samsung apps then stay with Touchwiz and root it, I would currently recommend using this ROM
I know you said that you are not into flashing ROMs but I would recommend that you give CM a chance or if you want extra personalization then try other custom roms.
Battlehero said:
If you want to use the Samsung apps then stay with Touchwiz and root it, I would currently recommend using this ROM
I know you said that you are not into flashing ROMs but I would recommend that you give CM a chance or if you want extra personalization then try other custom roms.
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i'd have no problem with flashing but custom roms never really get the camera app right or work well with ril files etc..
CM is very far from my taste although it has a sink ful of features.
i am almost set with giving up the iphone 6 for note 4.
just gonna wait till ios 9 gets previewed on wensday.
cant wait for a note 4 like battery, coming from i6.
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i'd have no problem with flashing but custom roms never really get the camera app right or work well with ril files etc..
CM is very far from my taste although it has a sink ful of features.
i am almost set with giving up the iphone 6 for note 4.
just gonna wait till ios 9 gets previewed on wensday.
cant wait for a note 4 like battery, coming from i6.
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I was not really happy with my Note 4 N910C until 5.1.1 came around.
More happy when I installed a stock pre-rooted ROM from Wanam and ultimate kernel then installed Note 5 theme and multi dpi for app.
My phone is very fast now, great battery too!
agentdeep said:
I was not really happy with my Note 4 N910C until 5.1.1 came around.
More happy when I installed a stock pre-rooted ROM from Wanam and ultimate kernel then installed Note 5 theme and multi dpi for app.
My phone is very fast now, great battery too!
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that i could do!!
without the changed kernel..no matter how good, once tinkered there always is a bug hiding..would the stock pre-rooted triger the knox counter?
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that i could do!!
without the changed kernel..no matter how good, once tinkered there always is a bug hiding..would the stock pre-rooted triger the knox counter?
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sadly yes.. But I don't care about warranty though, I trigger knox first day I bought my note 4.. Its just me, dunno bout you
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sadly yes.. But I don't care about warranty though, I trigger knox first day I bought my note 4.. Its just me, dunno bout you
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temptation of adaway and titanium backup etc are too great to pass..will see! lets hipe ios9 wont change my mind ?
Wanna trade your iPhone for my note 4 haha it's snaodragon but it's as new always used with a protective case! Haha.
Im thinking about going to iOs
I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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To be honest bro, I have the s7 edge at home for Verizon & I use the Nexus 6p as my daily. It's just how smooth and fast this phone is, touchwiz laggs like crazy compared to my Nexus 6p on beans rom, also I'm running my rooted apps like servicely and I get better battery life. If the s7 edge had root and unlocked bootloader no doubt it would whoop the Nexus 6p, but currently it just doesn't man.
Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.
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Yea. I am really unimpressed. I haven't system updated yet, the bugs are piling on. It runs games really well. Better than every android emulator. That says a lot, but it doesn't do much for me. I really miss root. I don't like the stock ROM, it isn't bloated, it has so much potential. It feels like an alpha release 0.78.
They were close but still a lot of work to be done.
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Your kidding right?
Alpha release, if you believe that you don't understand alpha, beta, and shipping releases. This is obviously a shipping release. Very few bugs.
I've never had anice emulator run games as well as a flagship. Root is/was useful when companies couldn't put their bloatware on the phones without causing all kinds of havoc on the system. Now between cutting a bunch of bloat and increasing the specs the flagship store run super well.
I'm really not sure why you would say it's an alpha release, maybe you have a bad device and should return it.
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I miss root a lot, as well as tinkering around. I imagine if root doesn't happen in the next month or two I may be tempted to sell S7E. I am not loyal to any cell until it's really rootable. Options are everything.
Have their been any announcements on any teams or members working on root, or is this something people don't want to say in the event they are unsuccessful?
I'm rather enjoying using Samsung Pay at the moment. Can't say I'd want to lose that by messing with things.
Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
cpufrost said:
Then, those who like to play around, increase instability, and decrease system security can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Fixed it for you. If we're going to post negotiate about one side, might add well be honest and post them about both.
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Yes I do miss it.
Ad Away
Titanium
3Minit
Statusbar customization!
With unlocked bootloader:
Custom Roms and Kernels
It (was) amazing how much (better) a debloated and optimized TW rom ran.
I wish they would just give users the ability to unlock the bootloaders like HTC Dev.
Then, those who like to play, can.
Those who want to stay stock, use payments from their device, have mediocre battery life and lag, can!
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Minus the 3Mint (never heard of it), I miss all of the above, in addition to Viper4Android. Man. The stock equalizer is aight, but I can't get half the power that I did out of Viper. And I never realized how many of my apps and pages had ads until I didn't have AdAway/root. I've developed, so I realize you have to make money, but most ads are most of the time inherently dangerous.
OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.
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OP I am in the exact same boat as you. I had a Nexus 6P before I got the S7 Edge, and when I got it I told myself that I would keep it stock and just enjoy fast updates and smooth performance. Of course, I couldn't stay stock for more than a few days and ended up installing custom ROMs and kernels. It got to the point that every week or so I was flashing something difference. I thought this was a huge time waster, but I just couldn't stop from trying new ROMs as I always thought I could tweak something for just a bit better battery life and performance.
Now that I have the S7 Edge I do love that I keep it stock and don't waste time on those things, or spending hours on XDA. Although, I do miss the buttery smooth performance of the 6P, the S7 lags like crazy and overheats quite often.
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Dead on. I wasted a few years on the nexus program. It's fun but very tedious. Now I just enjoy my games and use my device. The fiancé much enjoys me not up late at night resetting things up due to a bad flash, bug, etc.
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I've always had an Android phone. My last was the Nexus 6p. I felt that phone, because it was stock would not need to be rooted, but I feel into that trap. Waiting for small tweaks to a stock rom that was already pretty good.
With no root for the S7 edge, I have found that I don't really care or miss it for right now. This phone easily make it through a day or more of battery. I have a Chase account, so I use Samsung pay a lot. Theming make it easy to give this phone a better than stock touch wiz look. I've always loved wireless charging.
If I have any gripes with this phone it is low speaker volume, which if we did have root I know that could be fixed. Not having the ir blaster to change the TV around the house would have been great to keep. I have two boys, 10 and 7,and they are always misplacing the remotes.
Other than that the S7 edge address a main concern with Android phones and that is battery life.
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I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.
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I cannot disagree with you more. I want to remove the bloat. I want to be able to modify the edge because i keep having unintentional touches. There should be an option to disable it. I want to be able to install apks that need root. I want Adblockers. I want to fully customize it . I want so much but this phone can not deliver any.
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Sounds like you are actually agreeing with him...
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That is what I mean. With rooting phones it becomes slightly tedious.
My wife has an iPhone and I admired how that phone just works with very few hiccups. I don't believe any phone is perfect, but I like Android better and I feel this phone is close to being perfect with a few quirks.
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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.
mugsy77 said:
The honeymoon of a new and good device soon goes away. Then logic kicks in I won't be that guy who says we won't ever get root, but I don't know if I can go another month of not updating my S7E with a custom rom, not having ad blocker, and a smoother and fluid device. Call me a sellout, but there is a line between denial and reality. A lot of folks are ok and willing to hang onto S7E regardless of root - not I. I would rather better performance and less battery with root than our current situation.
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I'm the same. Working ad-blocker is a big deal for me. Among other things. May end up buying it out and selling it on swappa.
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I miss adaway and titanium backup. I have nexus 6p and s7 edge. My s7 edge is my daily driver due to battery life, but when I'm home I only use my nexus to avoid ads and bloatware
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But if you use the Samsung browser you CAN use AD blocker without root, as it supports it as an add in. Google it.
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Foxfi
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