Tap & Pay not available - Nexus 7 (2013) General

Hi, why is't the Nexus 7 2013 wifi isn't supported for Google Wallet Tap & Pay? is there any work around? I'm running stock 4.4 . Thanks

hatyrei said:
Hi, why is't the Nexus 7 2013 wifi isn't supported for Google Wallet Tap & Pay? is there any work around? I'm running stock 4.4 . Thanks
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It's not there on the 2012 N7 either. Oddly, it's there on the Nexus 10, though.
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oldblue910 said:
It's not there on the 2012 N7 either. Oddly, it's there on the Nexus 10, though.
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Also I just noticed the version of Google keyboard on Nexus 5 and 2013 Nexus 7 is different.... Also there is no option for Nexus 7 "Vibrate on Keypress" meanwhile Nexus 5 does have. I can't even uninstall it.

hatyrei said:
Also I just noticed the version of Google keyboard on Nexus 5 and 2013 Nexus 7 is different.... Also there is no option for Nexus 7 "Vibrate on Keypress" meanwhile Nexus 5 does have. I can't even uninstall it.
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That's because neither Nexus 7 model has a vibrator.
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oldblue910 said:
That's because neither Nexus 7 model has a vibrator.
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aw....i just hate the sound it makes....lol. Any suggestions? Hoping we can get a work around for Tap & Pay feature... I was really looking forward to it..since the 4.4 update. I don't understand why Google can't make it open to any handset that has NFC capabilities? right? sigh... hehehe

Turn on NFC first, then the menu will show up.

[TSON] said:
Turn on NFC first, then the menu will show up.
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Even after enabling NFC and wallet installed, Wallet doesn't show up in the tap & pay list. I even uninstalled and reinstalled Wallet.
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It's working completely fine for me... All I can think of to recommend is a factory reset..

[TSON] said:
It's working completely fine for me... All I can think of to recommend is a factory reset..
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Do you have a 2013 or 2012 N7?
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oldblue910 said:
Do you have a 2013 or 2012 N7?
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2013, running sideloaded OTA'd stock 4.4.

I'm stock rooted. I guess I'll try a factory reset, go from there.
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Is the issue that the Tap & Pay menu doesn't appear in Settings or does the functionality not work? I have never used it but I just turned on NFC to check and once I do, tap&pay appears in settings. Wi-fi N7 here.

OJ in Compton said:
Is the issue that the Tap & Pay menu doesn't appear in Settings or does the functionality not work? I have never used it but I just turned on NFC to check and once I do, tap&pay appears in settings. Wi-fi N7 here.
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Tap & pay will only show up after NFC is enabled (Kit Kat only, NOT Jelly Bean for you n00bs out there).
However, even after I reverted to stock unrooted jelly bean, oem locked, sideloaded the update, & reinstalled Wallet....Wallet STILL does not show up in the Tap & Pay app list. So I don't know what else to do.
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If i remember well, nexus 7 doesn't have the hardware to allow tap and pay... It's like we needed a secured NFC chip
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Drunken_elk said:
If i remember well, nexus 7 doesn't have the hardware to allow tap and pay... It's like we needed a secured NFC chip
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The secure NFC chip isn't needed for tap and pay starting with KitKat. That's why they added it at the OS level.

Tap and Pay is indeed present on the 2013 Nexus 7. I just enabled NFC to confirm that the menu shows up in Settings and it does.

Tap and Pay is present that's correct but Wallet isn't there yet. More talk about it here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2525738

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So my nfc doesn't work??

I have a galaxy nexus and a nexus 7 but running stock 4.1.1 on both or cyanofen mod 10 on both my nfc doesn't work properly can't transfer pics????
DON'T RESPOND UNLESS YOU HAVE BOTH NEXUS DEVISES
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I have neither device... but if I understand right, you have to have the device's NFC chips right near each other to do this. If this is true, did you do that? (The N7's NFC chip is around the X in Nexus if I heard right).
I haven't gotten mine to work, I'm not sure if its my tablet or phone but I tried it with my phone recently to my moms galaxy nexus and it worked. I know there's sweet spot on the tablet but I've tried everywhere and I can't get it so idk.
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sway40 said:
I haven't gotten mine to work, I'm not sure if its my tablet or phone but I tried it with my phone recently to my moms galaxy nexus and it worked. I know there's sweet spot on the tablet but I've tried everywhere and I can't get it so idk.
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Yea same here I know my phone works cause I use Google wallet I got it to work once but it didn't actually transfer
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I have the galaxy Nexus with rooted jelly bean and Nexus 7 with stock jelly bean. NFC works flawlessly. Are you tapping it right? The NFC chip is on the battery of the galaxy Nexus, do you have any third party battery that might not have NFC? If you don't, tap where the battery is onto the top back portion of the Nexus 7.
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The NFC on the Gnex is on the battery and on the N7 it's around the "X" in "Nexus" on the back. Place them together in these spots and it should work.
dislplin01 said:
Yea same here I know my phone works cause I use Google wallet I got it to work once but it didn't actually transfer
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I finally got it to work, I think it's where I was placing it I guess, I tried all over before but guess I found the sweet spot.
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espionage724 said:
I have neither device... but if I understand right, you have to have the device's NFC chips right near each other to do this. If this is true, did you do that? (The N7's NFC chip is around the X in Nexus if I heard right).
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It's in and above the NEXUS logo. See page 97 in the guide book.
having the same problem
dislplin01 said:
I have a galaxy nexus and a nexus 7 but running stock 4.1.1 on both or cyanofen mod 10 on both my nfc doesn't work properly can't transfer pics????
DON'T RESPOND UNLESS YOU HAVE BOTH NEXUS DEVISES
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I have two Nexus 7 (one 8gb) and one Nexus Galaxy.
All are stock ROMs as of this posting.
The N7s NFC work between each other flawlessly and effortlessly. No fudging around looking for the NFC.
Neither N7 can do an NFC exchange with the Nexus Galaxy.
Both N7s take a significant amount of futzing around to get the initial NFC buzz and tone. Neither will actually start an NFC transfer to the NG.
Inverse is true.
mbodo said:
I have two Nexus 7 (one 8gb) and one Nexus Galaxy.
All are stock ROMs as of this posting.
The N7s NFC work between each other flawlessly and effortlessly. No fudging around looking for the NFC.
Neither N7 can do an NFC exchange with the Nexus Galaxy.
Both N7s take a significant amount of futzing around to get the initial NFC buzz and tone. Neither will actually start an NFC transfer to the NG.
Inverse is true.
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transfer of files using beam is new to jelly bean. It works fine using a galaxy nexus and a nexus 7 both running jelly bean (I've transferred photos without issue) using Bluetooth and SNEP.
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I have both the Gnex and the N7. I was able to transfer a picture from my phone to the tablet using NFC.
from my galaxy s3 to the n7 i get:
NEW TAG COLLECTED- text/directshareerror
from n7 to gs3 more luck. IF the app is not on the phone it sends me to play store, but for photos it keeps saying the gs3 wont accept large files... ITs pretty hit or miss... more miss then hit
good advice
espionage724 said:
I have neither device... but if I understand right, you have to have the device's NFC chips right near each other to do this. If this is true, did you do that? (The N7's NFC chip is around the X in Nexus if I heard right).
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I also own a Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 7. Like you had said i held my galaxy up to the X on the back of my nexus and it worked. It seems a little touchy, i have to try it a couple time before the "touch to beam" screen comes on. Does anyone know what things Beam is compatible with, ive only been able to beam webpages and google play app pages so far.
Works fine between my Galaxy Nexus and N7. My GNex is on JRO03O , the N7 is stock rooted.
As others have said make sure you put the battery of the phone up to the "Nexus" on the back of the tab it will say touch to beam when you're in the right spot.
When you first unwrap your tablet, there is a rectangle box where they lable NFC behind the tablet, tap that spot, and I do have both devices.
Beamed from my Grouper
Well i cant use mine. I have the nexus 7 and a gs3.
They find each other, the transfer bar shows up on the galaxy but nothing more. The transfer never really starts and after a while it shows transfer fail.
Weird
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NFC issue

So I received my Nexus 10 Today and have been playing with it for about an hour and a much as I love it, I have a weird issue.
When I try to send something, a picture or contact for example, by NFC, it opens the play store and fails to receive!
Any ideas?
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The phone I am sending from is an S3.
The Nexus will receive webpages and YouTube links but when I send a picture, it opens up the play app store.
Confused!!
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chugglet said:
The phone I am sending from is an S3.
The Nexus will receive webpages and YouTube links but when I send a picture, it opens up the play app store.
Confused!!
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From settings turn off the S3 / Samsungs own version of photo sharing and turn on the standard android version. Sorry I can't remember exact names but I know the Samsung/Android versions of NFC Direct are different.
The-Kevster said:
From settings turn off the S3 / Samsungs own version of photo sharing and turn on the standard android version. Sorry I can't remember exact names but I know the Samsung/Android versions of NFC Direct are different.
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S-beam I think
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Yep, S-Beam uses wifi direct, while standard NFC is Bluetooth.
I have tried that.
Unfortunately the S3 gives me the message "S Beam is off. Turn on S Beam and try again". The Nexus still opens up the play store!
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I have just found a link on another site that says that because the S3 uses Wi-Fi direct and standard Android uses Bluetooth, it can cause a major headache! Does anyone know any way to permanently disable the S3 S Beam?
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On my S3 I have the option to disable S Bean. Enable NFC and enable Android Beam. I would imagine this would enable it to work. Will have my Nexus 10 today but for now I'm just advising without any experience.
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On my S3 I have the option to disable S Bean. Enable NFC and enable Android Beam. I would imagine this would enable it to work. Will have my Nexus 10 today but for now I'm just advising without any experience.
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I have the options to turn S Beam on or off as well as Android Beam. Unfortunately it doesn't work in any mode.
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Where are the NFC chips located on the device? I am having trouble locating them.
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Nexus 7 and Auto- airplane mode by DON

Since the 4.2 update, this app is not working with Nexus 7. Any one got a workaround or a recommendation for a similar app.
Thanks.
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newcdn said:
Since the 4.2 update, this app is not working with Nexus 7. Any one got a workaround or a recommendation for a similar app.
Thanks.
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I'm experiencing the same problem.
Same problem... Doesn't work at all.
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Yes, Google hastily and sloppily killed it as a quick security fix. The issue has been reported back to Google to implement a better / alternative solution.
If it's important to you, please go to the link below and 'star' the issue so it gets Google's attention quicker.
Bring back the ability to toggle airplane mode, or a way to enable/disable the cellular radio without affecting other radios
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=40497
Been using Better WiFi On off for now.

Google Wallet Tap & Pay for Kit Kat: How to get it to work on N7!

Tap & Pay now works for Google Wallet for N7 Kit Kat.....IF you get the Nexus 5 version of Wallet!
Which you can find on Phandroid here
Instructions for n00bs: To install, download the .apk file at the webpage link above. MAKE SURE UNKNOWN SOURCES IS CHECKED IN YOUR SECURITY SETTINGS prior to download.
Then run the app and follow the directions in the app to setup Tap & Pay.
Make sure NFC is enabled and you have an internet connection when attempting payment (have the Wallet app showing when you are ready for payment.)
I just bought McDonald's with it....using their WiFi!
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thanks and yes, after installing that apk and setting it up, Wallet does now appear in tap & pay. I'll try it out. Thanks
I seem to remember a blog post and thread here how NFC could not work with Wallet on the new N7. I disagreed because the hardware is there and the security can be emulated in software. This workaround proves it. I'm going to McDonald's tonight .
Thanks
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Thanks for the info. Very cool.
ruggie0 said:
Make sure NFC is enabled and you have an internet connection when attempting payment (have the Wallet app showing when you are ready for payment.)
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Are you sure you need an internet connection when attempting payment? You didn't with the 2012 N7.
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xdhall said:
Are you sure you need an internet connection when attempting payment? You didn't with the 2012 N7.
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How can you make a payment without an Internet connection? :what: If that was the case, you make a payment offline, factory reset your tablet before it connects again. In theory, you won't get charged then, right?
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LoopDoGG79 said:
How can you make a payment without an Internet connection? :what: If that was the case, you make a payment offline, factory reset your tablet before it connects again. In theory, you won't get charged then, right?
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No. Your device communicates your payment data via NFC. The element receiving that data actually executes the charge. Your device doesn't need to connect to the internet anymore than your credit cards need to connect to the internet.
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xdhall said:
No. Your device communicates your payment data via NFC. The element receiving that data actually executes the charge. Your device doesn't need to connect to the internet anymore than your credit cards need to connect to the internet.
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I understand now. The NFC chip replaces your card, it's equivalent to swiping your credit card, got it, thanks buddy.
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xdhall said:
Are you sure you need an internet connection when attempting payment? You didn't with the 2012 N7.
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...thought the app told me to have an internet connection. How else does the app retrieve your credit card info?
Granted, it COULD be stored directly in the app...but then that poses a security risk, I would think
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ruggie0 said:
...thought the app told me to have an internet connection. How else does the app retrieve your credit card info?
Granted, it COULD be stored directly in the app...but then that poses a security risk, I would think
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Almost as risky as storing your credit card info on a plastic card in your billfold. Someone nips that and they have all they need to charge your account!
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Guys you CAN pay without an internet connection. The Nexus 7 2013 works the same as the Nexus 5, using HCE instead of a secure element. I tried my N5 in airplane mode (with NFC switched back on) a couple days ago at CVS and it worked fine. As soon as I turned off airplane mode the transaction details downloaded.
Now while the transaction will work without internet Wallet now requires an internet connection to PIN unlock! So if there is no service in the store unlock it before going in. If you're feeling more daring you can use 1 day or no PIN timeout for wallet and not have to worry about internet connectivity.
petard said:
Wallet now requires an internet connection to PIN unlock!
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1. That's bizzaro
2. A joke with the word hoist
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Installed new wallet from play store on top of this. Tap and pay is still there. New version has camera option for adding credit cards.
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I have the camera option on my Nexus 7 but not on my Galaxy S3.
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ruggie0 said:
...thought the app told me to have an internet connection. How else does the app retrieve your credit card info?
Granted, it COULD be stored directly in the app...but then that poses a security risk, I would think
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One of the new features in KitKat is 'virtual smart cards' which allows them to take the credit card information and essentially create a virtual card that has the same content as your real card. It's protected the same way as your credit card does it. Tap and Pay is actually identical to "chip and pin" just done over NFC. So this duplicates the 'chip' part.
Any way to make this work outside the USA without any crazy hacks?

[Q] Do you have the "Tap & pay" menu item under settings?

My N7 with KitKat doesn't have the "Tap & pay" option under settings but my N4 does. Is that normal?
I guess is not normal to use a 9"ish device as a wallet
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I agree. Just want to make sure my KitKat update is completed successfully.
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I received the OTA earlier this afternoon. N7 2013 WiFi. I do have the tap to pay option under settings.
Don't have it on my unrooted n7 2012
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Maybe you must setup a creditcard first?
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I do have credit cards setup in my Google Wallet. I think N7 2012 doesn't have the option but 2013 does. Guess that's normal.
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This is for 2012 Nexus 7 WiFi model - updated to KRT16S stock rom & kernel, rooted.
Go to Settings - Wireless & networks: check to make sure NFC is checked & Android Beam is on.
(Google) Wallet should be one of the installed Apps (if not, download from Play Store) - set it up correctly including PIN.
It will confirmed successful setup, ready for Tap & Play. Email will follow shortly.
Next, open "Wallet" and your linked CC should be shown, below it "Change tap and pay settings" On the upper corner, press the 3 dots - and read the info about "How to use T&P"
Enjoy - Wallet, Tap & Pay are for US only per my understanding at this time, not available in other countries.

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