Moto X will skip 4.3 and go directly to 4.4 - Moto X General

via Motorola VP of Product Management, Punit Soni:
https://plus.google.com/+PunitSoni/posts/LAKKMnEE6CQ
We are moving directly to 4.4. I dont like to discuss timing. It just puts a lot of stress on the team, and there is always a chance we find something which delays us a bit.
Rest assured, we are on it. You have seen the speed with which we are moving as a Google company, that shall continue.
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You've most likely gained a repeat customer Motorola!
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Sweet! I'll let you guys know how 4.4 is when my Nexus 5 is delivered in a few days
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PerverseImp said:
You've most likely gained a repeat customer Motorola!
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They haven't done anything yet?

eallan said:
They haven't done anything yet?
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I'm somewhat optimistic about it because they were relatively prompt in sending out an update for the camera. Not their fault that some of the carriers dragged ass.

eallan said:
They haven't done anything yet?
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They have broken the applications apart from the os and put them in the play store. Consistently updated their applications. Reached out to the developers in the community for suggestions. Have addressed a new concern of mine with the announcement of skipping 4.3. Saying that they haven't done anything is a bit of a stretch.
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PerverseImp said:
You've most likely gained a repeat customer Motorola!
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I went from an OG Droid (amazing, started my love for android), Droid 2 (meh), Droid 3 (meh), Galaxy Nexus, Galaxy S4, now the Moto X. I kind of feel the way I did about the OG Droid with the Moto X. If Moto keeps pushing out quality phones like the X, with fairly timely updates, I'm going to stick with them. Hopefully Google and Motorola don't let us down

This is great news... May keep from buying a nexus 5....but I'm still gonna handle one just to see it and see how it performs and feels. I've been very pleased with my moto X though, more than I have with any other device.
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mhsbrian said:
This is great news... May keep from buying a nexus 5....but I'm still gonna handle one just to see it and see how it performs and feels. I've been very pleased with my moto X though, more than I have with any other device.
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Agree
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Totally.

I'm sorry about that. I was reading the thread and my one year old got hold of my nexus and must have accidentally posted. My apologies.
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i dont mind this at all.
i mean i don't get caught up in the version numbers per se, but the features.
i honestly am not really sure what is so different about 4.2 and even 4.1 other than it hink some stuff in the settings bar is slightly different. 4.3 added trim support natively but from the anandtech review i know moto backported that to their version of 4.2.2. so that doesnt matter either.
4.4 at least i figure is a big enough jump. before the moto x i was using a razr M on 4.1.2 and honestly i can barely tell the difference OS wise between any of these (and i had 4.3 on a nexus 7 for a while, honestly all the jelly bean labeled 4.1-4.3 variants are basically the same)

sleepyguy007 said:
i dont mind this at all.
i mean i don't get caught up in the version numbers per se, but the features.
i honestly am not really sure what is so different about 4.2 and even 4.1 other than it hink some stuff in the settings bar is slightly different. 4.3 added trim support natively but from the anandtech review i know moto backported that to their version of 4.2.2. so that doesnt matter either.
4.4 at least i figure is a big enough jump. before the moto x i was using a razr M on 4.1.2 and honestly i can barely tell the difference OS wise between any of these (and i had 4.3 on a nexus 7 for a while, honestly all the jelly bean labeled 4.1-4.3 variants are basically the same)
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Well besides trim it also adds opengl 3.0 support, which every currently retailing Nexus device supports.
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If ICS wont come out like Lg 2x..what smartphone next buy?

As we all know that LG 2x wont get ICS last week..
What smartphone after this, so i can change this atrix?
Droid Razr?
Atrix HD? Or else?
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As other users commented on my thread, it's only cancelled for the Canadian version of O2X. There's still a hope for us Atrix users. And why would you change your phone because you're not getting a software update?
Sent from that Atrix.
All we need is ONE version of ICS to get released, and we are all set.
It's still on par to get released sometime in the 3rd quarter, and last time I checked we're still I'm the 3rd quarter...
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Phones don't suddenly stop working if you don't get some future update...
Also, it saves you money to keep it and nobody has canceled anything yet. We have an official statement saying Q3 for the Atrix's ICS update. We then have lots of speculation based on many things regarding it. So let's at least try to stick with Motorola here until they've actually not delivered on their promise.
I'm hoping there will be a new Nexus phone around the end of this year when I am finally able to upgrade. Otherwise, SGS3.
tatperson said:
And why would you change your phone because you're not getting a software update?
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Morphling27 said:
Phones don't suddenly stop working if you don't get some future update...
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Exactly right. I've never understood this "ZOMG, no updates, must change phone now!!1!11!! eleventy !!1!11!!" logic from supposedly intelligent people. If your phone is very old, sure, I can see upgrading, but a phone that's not even two years old and has what's currently the most prolific version of Android available (Gingerbread)? A phone that, in many ways, still kicks the crap out of most (not all, but most) phones currently in the market? All because it doesn't have a version of Android that, based on what I've seen, has more than a few significant issues on many devices, issues that have been largely resolved with Jellybean (shades of every-other-Windows-release-is-crap syndrome!)? Unbelievable.
I have a better question: what will there be left to talk/worry about once Moto hits us with ICS? JB?
nh777 said:
I have a better question: what will there be left to talk/worry about once Moto hits us with ICS? JB?
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Just make better ROMs and Mods, and keep Atrix growing like the HTC HD2
That gs3 is a beast.. 720p 1.5ghz and 2gb ram. As I recall it lacks HDMI out but I might be wrong. My mom's got one of those after I realized it has an hd screen far and away surpassing the gs2.. plus it's got a.. I'll say lively community
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Morphling27 said:
Phones don't suddenly stop working if you don't get some future update...
Also, it saves you money to keep it and nobody has canceled anything yet. We have an official statement saying Q3 for the Atrix's ICS update. We then have lots of speculation based on many things regarding it. So let's at least try to stick with Motorola here until they've actually not delivered on their promise.
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And I really think they will. If they don't the'll look horribly bad lol. They're known for not giving updates, not breaking promises right?
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I have a better question: what will there be left to talk/worry about once Moto hits us with ICS? JB?
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Key lime pie!
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i dont need new phone if ics wont come.. i think i ll use at least 5 years more my atrix if not broken..(Maybe i ll buy if any flexable phones released)i can do everything my phone on cm7..Upgrades just psychologic if do not need.
No hope. Just buy SGS3. Never buy Nividia
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Why waste money when I am not due for an upgrade?
There are people still running Froyo on their phone. Lol..
I was informed by my provider I'm stuck with Atrix next 28 months.
Me to have a nice day...
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Sad news guys:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-an-upgrade-to-ics-after-all-says-lg-canada/
However, the grand x had been released, maybe we can get something from it?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/google/android/zte-grand-x-goes-on-sale-early-at-phones4u/
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Do we know if this is the same board as atrix?
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HMZX said:
Sad news guys:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/0...e-an-upgrade-to-ics-after-all-says-lg-canada/
However, the grand x had been released, maybe we can get something from it?
http://www.technobuffalo.com/companies/google/android/zte-grand-x-goes-on-sale-early-at-phones4u/
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Franklee99 said:
Do we know if this is the same board as atrix?
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I hate to be the one to say this, but you know when you go back to the root Atrix 4G section, there's a button on the right hand side that says "Search this forum", and if you select "Show posts" and type in "ZTE" and then press "Enter", you'll get around 4 pages of discussion on this topic?
As for which phone to get, a Nexus, I guess. At least if they make one with an SLCD and external storage/32GB internal... I don't really like the lower life-expectancy of AMOLED screens, and I need at least 25GB of data storage space.
pls search before posting question
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pls search before posting question
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Pls check last post date before posting.
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First time I don't feel like getting a new phone...

I usually switch phones every 4 months but since I got my nexus 4 I do not feel like getting rid of the nexus 4. Anybody else feels the same out there?
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I do too. Except for the limited battery capacity, the phone feels great. You get to do what you like with it, no oem restrictions and always the first to get software updates.
I too am that type of person but I'm really enjoying the nexus!
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Me too! I plan on getting a new one in 2-3 years but only if there'll be another amazing Nexus available
Pretty much this. I'll probably just stick with whatever the latest Nexus is.
Unfortunately I don't feel the same way. This HTC One is calling me and I must get it.
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shook187 said:
Unfortunately I don't feel the same way. This HTC One is calling me and I must get it.
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Anything special about it? I read it has many production flaws + software will be two versions behind within 2 months when klp comes out. Still great phone though!
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Me too! I plan on getting a new one in 2-3 years but only if there'll be another amazing Nexus available
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Lol 3 years waiting for me would be a lot...
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Anything special about it? I read it has many production flaws + software will be two versions behind within 2 months when klp comes out. Still great phone though!
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Let's see better battery life a 1080 p screen stereo front speakers a quality built to kill for.
Should I go on?
shook187 said:
Let's see better battery life a 1080 p screen stereo front speakers a quality built to kill for.
Should I go on?
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Please don't. I would run and go get it if I was you
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Underground_XI said:
Please don't. I would run and go get it if I was you
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I was drooling over the HTC One when I first heard of it. But then I thought "Mine is better cuz it's cheaper, *****es".
(I still secretly love the HTC One tho. Please don't tell it to myself or I'll regret buying the N4)
LTavaress said:
I was drooling over the HTC One when I first heard of it. But then I thought "Mine is better cuz it's cheaper, *****es".
(I still secretly love the HTC One tho. Please don't tell it to myself or I'll regret buying the N4)
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i do... abit for the Z
The Nexus 4 is the perfect phone for me, no doubt about it.
However, being the tech geek that I am there is no doubt in my mind I will grab the Nexus 5 about 6 months after it's released (I don't want to deal with launch-day drama and hardware issues which always seem to plague the initial Nexus releases)
I can say, however, that I will only be buying Nexus phones from now on since they have finally stepped up to the plate with decent hardware and specs. The Gnex was a massive disappointment to me, I sold it within four months of owning it.
Same for me. I had the one x for the last year but it has started giving me trouble by not recognizing the Sim card was in the slot.
I was torn between the nexus 4. HTC one and the galaxy s4.
After much deliberation I went with the nexus 4 and I'm so glad I did.
I owned the nexus one before so I am already accustomed to the nexus experience.
I honestly didn't expect the 4 to be so much better than the one x. Snappier. Better gaming performance and longer battery life.
I'm so glad I switched
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I don't know about you guys but I want a Motorola Razr.
shook187 said:
Unfortunately I don't feel the same way. This HTC One is calling me and I must get it.
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Good luck with HTC. I just sold my HTC OneX+ after 4 months only. Just can't stand anything except stock Android.
Same here, N4 is perfect for my needs.
LTavaress said:
I was drooling over the HTC One when I first heard of it. But then I thought "Mine is better cuz it's cheaper, *****es".
(I still secretly love the HTC One tho. Please don't tell it to myself or I'll regret buying the N4)
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Thank you, you just made me and my brother laugh pretty hard. In happy with my phone for now I'm waiting for the x or the next nexus
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I've upgraded from a BB Curve 3G, So as you could imaging this phone is one hell of a upgrade, So I won't be looking for a new phone anytime soon. Well happy with my Nexus 4
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Anyone else notice the One is faster?

Running Paranoid Android and in playing with the One I have noticed it is generally smoother. Could this be the software?
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Joshua3109 said:
Running Paranoid Android and in playing with the One I have noticed it is generally smoother. Could this be the software?
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its the hardware, and maybe some proprietary bits in the software.
I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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Joshua3109 said:
I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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there are always optimizations that can make thing a little better. most of the optimizations(like dalvik) on nexus phones would be propritary. plus the cpu is a more recent revision(among other things).
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I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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Ya Android could be optimized more. **** the extra bells and whisles that come with the next version, give me a god damn smooth experience!! Seriously, Nexus 4 should be butter. BUTTER!!!
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Of course it's faster. It has a Snapdragon 600 processor. In other breaking news, water is wet, and the sky is blue.
jzero88 said:
Ya Android could be optimized more. **** the extra bells and whisles that come with the next version, give me a god damn smooth experience!! Seriously, Nexus 4 should be butter. BUTTER!!!
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I agree. Android should be optimised for the Nexus range ONLY, like Apple do with iOS. Only then will it ever be a perfectly smooth experience.
If other companies wanna put out 15 Android phones a year, then they should do their own optimisations to ensure it runs properly.
LooieENG said:
I agree. Android should be optimised for the Nexus range ONLY, like Apple do with iOS. Only then will it ever be a perfectly smooth experience.
If other companies wanna put out 15 Android phones a year, then they should do their own optimisations to ensure it runs properly.
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They do do their own optimizations... they optimize their Android manufacturer skins (TouchWiz, HTC Sense, etc)
It may feel faster but that's only cos of the transitions HTC have added in, they have minimised many that are in stock android and sped up a few as well, thus overall giving the illusion that it runs faster :L
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Its probably the software HTC uses. Try the S4 Touch wiz launcher on the Nexus 4. Really smooth. Smoother than the stock one
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I thought with the s4 pro we were at the point we had more power than was needed to run our phones at top speed though. Was I wrong?
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That's bs. Any truthful Nexus 4 owner will tell you that there's still lag and slowdowns here and there. If Google had more ex-engineers from apple then we'd probably have better software *cough* camera.
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Ace42 said:
That's bs. Any truthful Nexus 4 owner will tell you that there's still lag and slowdowns here and there. If Google had more ex-engineers from apple then we'd probably have better software *cough* camera.
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i hear, rumors of course, that they are gonna focus(pardon the pun) on the camera on the next nexus.
The HTC One is a beautiful device. It's specs are amazing. I just wish it didn't have to cost over $500-$600. It would be sweeter if HTC makes the next Nexus smartphone.
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The HTC One is a beautiful device. It's specs are amazing. I just wish it didn't have to cost over $500-$600. It would be sweeter if HTC makes the next Nexus smartphone.
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I'd have to avoid it. I hate HTC. My phone LCD cable stops working and you know what they told me?
"You took the HTC dev unlock, it'll cost $250 to fix"
Yes because software breaks your display cable. And thats when I ran it over with my truck
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The HTC One is a beautiful device. It's specs are amazing. I just wish it didn't have to cost over $500-$600. It would be sweeter if HTC makes the next Nexus smartphone.
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Well they had their turn with the first one... supposedly right now it's between Motorola and LG. It would be weird if it was LG again, from what I heard before Google liked to switch from manufacturer to manufacturer for promotional purposes.
Robogar said:
Well they had their turn with the first one... supposedly right now it's between Motorola and LG. It would be weird if it was LG again, from what I heard before Google liked to switch from manufacturer to manufacturer for promotional purposes.
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They kept Samsung for 2 cycles.
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They kept Samsung for 2 cycles.
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I think a Sony Xperia Nexus sounds pretty neat. But if Google makes a Motorola Nexus, it better be mind blowing.
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Android L for Moto X confirmed... Sort of

In case anyone missed it, Motorola's VP of product management Punit Soni replied to a question about getting android L for Moto X. He said "yup". Not much to go on, but exciting excited for the release of it now
Source: gsmarena.com/motorola_vp_confirms_moto_x_will_get_android_l-news-9242.php
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Hopefully we will get it before Nexus just like we did with 4.4.
Nice!
I've been using the L preview on my N7, and really like the new layout, with a few minor quibbles. However, adaptive brightness is absolutely wonderful, and I am looking forward to being able to use that feature on my X.
I really don't know why anyone is worried about this. The MotoX will definitely receive Android L. It would be foolish for Motorola to abandon support for a year old device. We probably won't get it super fast, but I'm sure we'll get it within 2-3 months of Android-L coming out.
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I really don't know why anyone is worried about this. The MotoX will definitely receive Android L. It would be foolish for Motorola to abandon support for a year old device. We probably won't get it super fast, but I'm sure we'll get it within 2-3 months of Android-L coming out.
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I knew it. Moto will receive Android L absolutely.
We can now hope that we receive android L as fast as the moto X originally received 4.4
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We can now hope that we receive android L as fast as the moto X originally received 4.4
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Someone didn't proof read.....

Found this on the display in Kroger today, I guess some one was trying to future proof their ad. It does go to show that android 5.0 is designed to work on weaker devices if it turns out to be true.
Sorry that this isn't specific to our n5, I thought nexus users would find it more interesting than anyone else.
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Even if it is, they would never get official updates...sadly.
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Even if it is, they would never get official updates...sadly.
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Motorola has already confirmed that the Moto E will get Android 5.0 Lollipop along with other 2014 devices
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949?linkId=10217927
Actually this just shows who doesn't read the news and specifically about which phones are going to be getting Lollipop. Moto E is on the list
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Motorola has already confirmed that the Moto E will get Android 5.0 Lollipop along with other 2014 devices
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/software-upgrade-news/g_id/1949?linkId=10217927
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Moto is the exception. Tell me when the GS2 gets it, or even something like the One X.
Not gonna happen
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Even if it is, they would never get official updates...sadly.
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Why you lie for?
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Moto is the exception. Tell me when the GS2 gets it, or even something like the One X.
Not gonna happen
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Yeah but this thread is about the Moto E...
_MetalHead_ said:
Yeah but this thread is about the Moto E...
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Actually this whole thread is about the nexus 5. Not the Moto E
toxicpaulution said:
Actually this whole thread is about the nexus 5. Not the Moto E
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Actually this whole thread is about the Moto E. Not the Nexus 5.
The sub forum is for the Nexus 5 though.
You should buy one and see if it has 5.0
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Yeah but this thread is about the Moto E...
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Then perhaps you should have posted this in the moto forums and not nexus.
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Then perhaps you should have posted this in the moto forums and not nexus.
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Perhaps the OP should have posted it in the moto forums, but I am not him.
I was more posting it in regards to the rollout of android l, or 5.0. It hasn't even been officially released, yet even prepaid providers, like net10 in this case, have already updated their advertising to reflect the change.
In my mind, that directly correlated to meaning many phones being updated quickly and less overall variance of android version across the phone world.
They actually did a small bit of research and they probably didn't want to spend the extra money to redo the features. Technically in saying it'll run an OS that's not even out yet, it implies to anyone technical conscious that it'll be upgradable, thereby making it a better buy. Plus it's good marketing saying "this phone is future proof and will run the OS that's not out quite yet."
If you're discussing the Moto E, it belongs in that forum.
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