microsd card - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hi i just got the sandisk extreme 64gb microsd card.
suppose to be 30mb/sec right?
but when im transfering video files from PC (win8/64bit) to phone via usb3 ports/cable to card, a 4gb content is showing to be completed in 50min..
this cant be correct.. right?
the actual time that its transferred across is more like 20min.. but still it should be faster right?
i had it on usb debugging as well.
is there something wrong with my setup?

aliguu said:
hi i just got the sandisk extreme 64gb microsd card.
suppose to be 30mb/sec right?
but when im transfering video files from PC (win8/64bit) to phone via usb3 ports/cable to card, a 4gb content is showing to be completed in 50min..
this cant be correct.. right?
the actual time that its transferred across is more like 20min.. but still it should be faster right?
i had it on usb debugging as well.
is there something wrong with my setup?
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Did you put the phone in usb 3 mode

aliguu said:
hi i just got the sandisk extreme 64gb microsd card.
suppose to be 30mb/sec right?
but when im transfering video files from PC (win8/64bit) to phone via usb3 ports/cable to card, a 4gb content is showing to be completed in 50min..
this cant be correct.. right?
the actual time that its transferred across is more like 20min.. but still it should be faster right?
i had it on usb debugging as well.
is there something wrong with my setup?
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might be the card.. i transfered 3 roms to my internal sdcard yesterday, about 3.9gb and it took like 7 or 8 mins

The speeds defined for cards are the best achieved by the manufacterer with an unspecified card reader, and only for contious r/w. The smaller the chunks the longer it will take, below 4 k at best around 2 MB.
In a HAMA USB 3.0 reader on a NEC/Renesas controller in an Elitebook 8560p I could achieve 20 MB read and 70 MB write, but as soon as the notebook was used for something else or smaller chunks the transfer rate drops.
The cable was only 20 cm long, with bad cables and other controller or Hubs in beetween it can get much slower, even if you use a HDD or SSD.
USB 3.0 is like USB 2.0 was in the first years slow and buggy, but if both controller and everything else matches it's fast then the 30 MB where USB 2.0 maxes out.
Test your µSDcard in an USB 3.0 reader using ATTO and you'll know how fast it really is.

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Succky file tranafer

I love my wing but one of the several suckky things about it is the file transfer, if i am transfering a files that is anything bigger han like 5o mb it takes mad long to tranfser from my pc to my phone. And files like movies are impossible to transfer. I was trying to transfer a movie to my phone and even after waiting about 5 hrs. it did not finish the transfer. That basically means that i can't use my phone as video player. That suck, or is there a way that i could speed up the ttransfer speeds, tips tricks hacks, anything is fine. Except i don't want ot go too far with the hacks. Thanks people
Why dont you just pop-in the microSD into its SD adapter and put it into the cardreader? I'm using a sandisk branded microSD and it transfer 1.7GB in <5mins!
For smaller data transfers(<40mb),I use activesync.
I am aware of the solution that you gave me, but the problem is that my computer does not recognize the micro SD card in the SD adopter, which by the way is Sandisk branded and the two came together. Is there a way i can make that work??
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I am aware of the solution that you gave me, but the problem is that my computer does not recognize the micro SD card in the SD adopter, which by the way is Sandisk branded and the two came together. Is there a way i can make that work??
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there are also usb-sticks where you can put a microsd... for me that worked..
USB 1.1. Crazy right?
hidavi said:
USB 1.1. Crazy right?
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no the usb sticks are usb2!!!
http://www.dooyoo.de/sonstige-speicher-adapter/kingston-usb-microsd-reader-plus-card/
papamopps said:
no the usb sticks are usb2!!!
http://www.dooyoo.de/sonstige-speicher-adapter/kingston-usb-microsd-reader-plus-card/
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I think he meant the phone's built in connection.
^exactly what I meant. A $15 1GB flash drive has USB 2.0, but this $400 phone can't...
yay, my computer recognizes my card, but still no good.
Ok so finally after waiting an hour for my computer to recognize my Micro sd card which was in an sd adopter, it finally did it. But then when i tried to open it it took another 35 minutes to respond. And then it said that the card is'nt formatted and asked me if i wanted to format it. i know that if i format it for my computer all it's previous data will disaper, so what should i do.
There is a possibility that the cardreader doesn´t support the size of your memorycard. For examplae my laptop is equipped with a bulit-in cardreader that supports SD&Memorystick BUT only up to 1GB. Anything above that (for example my 2GB card from my digicam) and I get the same results as you do. Sometimes i isn´t recognized and sometimes it is but extremely slow but I can never write anything to it.
So is there anything i can do about that?

MicroSD card performance

I've noticed that copying files to the phone (to storage card) via USB cable is painfully slow (as compared to say regular USB stick).
Would purchasing a high speed MicroSD (e.g. Sandisk Premier) help or is the phone itself the bottleneck?
Thanks!
Try connecting your phone as a mass storage device, if you haven't done that already.
You can select this when you plug in the usb cable.
Accessing the storage card is way faster then.
milan_ns said:
I've noticed that copying files to the phone (to storage card) via USB cable is painfully slow (as compared to say regular USB stick).
Would purchasing a high speed MicroSD (e.g. Sandisk Premier) help or is the phone itself the bottleneck?
Thanks!
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I have purchased SanDisk Mobile Ultra (Class 6) and the performance increase in real terms is marginal!
milan_ns said:
I've noticed that copying files to the phone (to storage card) via USB cable is painfully slow (as compared to say regular USB stick).
Would purchasing a high speed MicroSD (e.g. Sandisk Premier) help or is the phone itself the bottleneck?
Thanks!
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It would certainly help. Also search this forum for tnyynt's SD Tuneup cab. Note that installing that cab only makes much of a difference once you got a faster SD.
The transfer speed of the SD is limited for whatever reason, power preservation, whatever, it's limited to optimize for slower SD cards. So The SDTuneup cab ups this limit, meaning you will notice a much bigger speed difference when using faster SD cards.
i also find the msd card speed poor. especially when you open up a folder with a lot of images every image software takes minutes to scan the folder.
that is very lame

Why is USB transfer rate so slow?

Hi experts I was hoping somebody here could throw some clues my way.
I have a 32A Rogers magic. (rogers HOFO )
I usb mounted the drive, and transferred a movie on there just for fun, and it was really SLOOOOOW , using the 2 gig sandisk microsd card it came with
So I tested the transfer rate, and write was about 3 meg/second. ouch
reads are about 5 meg/second (!)
SO I got an 8 gig type 6 card to solve this problem. I tested it first with a usb card reader, it reads at 16 - 17 meg/second (same usb port)
Put it in the Magic, and I'm back to 3 / 5 again, with the new card too.
The specs say "USB 2.0" - yet this is unbelievably crappy usb transfer rates :-(
I tried my buddy's Dream, it's exactly the same too. 3 / 5
Why? Any clues? Is there something to tweak?
are you using the usb cable that came with it or your own one?
either way, have you tried a different cable?
yes, tried that. And with a whole other phone, computer, and cable ;-)
I just tried it again though, it's the exact same, 3 MB/s write, 5.7 MB/s read on the HTC cable, and the normal one I use.
Why, is yours faster?
Could you use a stopwatch (like www.online-stopwatch.com),
and copy around a 100 or 150 meg .ZIP file to it, and tell me how many seconds it took?
i just transferred a 550mb video clip from my laptop to my phone and it took 1m 28s.
my laptop isn't particularly fast either, so will have had some affect.
Thanks
That's about 6MB/s (550/88), that's better for writes than mine, close to double...
How long does it take to get it back, reading?
59 seconds.
but don't forget my laptop sucks so that time will be a bit high.
9.3 MB/sec still kicks mine. Thanks for checking that out.
This one reads really fast on a card reader, over 16MB/s
I guess it doesn't like Android phones. :-( I don't get it.
What brand / class is your card? Mine's transcend 8GB type 6
mine is the same.
at least, i think it's transcend.
it's certainly 8gb class 6 anyway.
just a thought...
what rom are you using?
the default or a modified one?
The HOFO roms
I've got it up to 8 to 9 MB/s writes, and 6- 7 MB/s reads now
That's exact opposite to yours, lol.

Extremely slow file transfers in both USB 2.0 and 3.0 modes

I'm trying to pull about 40GB of files off my phone. When I transfer the files, its progress moves very, very slowly. After a few seconds of transfer, my SSD's active time goes to 100%, lagging my entire computer to the point that I can't use any programs. My 240GB Intel 520 SSD's response time goes from 0.5 to 1.5 ms response time to 3,000 to 4,000. Transferring files to my HDD's is faster, but still slow. The transfer rate goes min (0mb/s), max (50mb/s), min, max, repeatedly.
The files I'm transferring are split archives of about 50MB each. The USB 3.0 connection uses an Etron USB 3.0 controller. I don't have any trouble transferring files over USB 3.0, except when I use my Note 3. The experience is the same whether I'm transferring from internal phone memory or off its 64gb microSD card. The experience is the same whether the phone is in USB 3.0 mode or USB 2.0 mode.
Has anyone else experienced unexpectedly slow file transfers from their Note 3?
Welcome to the wonderful world of the Media Transfer Protocol.
I still don't know what they were trying to accomplish by removing USB Mass Storage from Android, MTP is a nightmare with anything over 500KB...
It takes me about 22 minutes to copy a 300MB .mp4. From an i7 2.9Ghz 8GB 7200RPM SATA with USB3.0. Even iTunes is quicker, and it has to convert everything!
I realized 70 mbps but only if the target is the internal memory. My sd card was too slow or the card reader in the note is limited.

Transferring files over wifi and sd card transfers

I've been trying to transfer files to my external sd card with es explorer over wifi and also with usb from my pc. Every time the screen goes off I lose the connection and the transfer stalls and won't resume.
The card was formatted on the tablet, and is exfat. Windows doesn't recognize it and says it can't format it.
Any ideas?
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distracto said:
I've been trying to transfer files to my external sd card with es explorer over wifi and also with usb from my pc. Every time the screen goes off I lose the connection and the transfer stalls and won't resume.
The card was formatted on the tablet, and is exfat. Windows doesn't recognize it and says it can't format it.
Any ideas?
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More info would help us to help you.
What kind of pc, what OS, what adapter are you using for computer, what brand sd card, how big are the files, are you doing other tasks on the computer when transfering the files and have you tried reformatting on your tablet.
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Try airdroid
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Except for small files, I don't use ESFile Manager to transfer them, and for me it's just as easy to pop the MicroSD card out of the tablet and put it in a fast USB 3.0 card reader than connecting the tablet to my PC with its data cable at USB 2.0 speeds. I don't do this for my Note phone because I'd have to take my multi-layer Seidio case and and back cover off to access the MicroSD card, but with the tablet the card is more easily accessible.
internetpilot said:
Except for small files, I don't use ESFile Manager to transfer them, and for me it's just as easy to pop the MicroSD card out of the tablet and put it in a fast USB 3.0 card reader than connecting the tablet to my PC with its data cable at USB 2.0 speeds. I don't do this for my Note phone because I'd have to take my multi-layer Seidio case and and back cover off to access the MicroSD card, but with the tablet the card is more easily accessible.
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How is your microSD formatted? NTFS or exFAT?
I am using windows XP, standard USB cables (that came with the device), large files (movies, tv shows) of over 10gigs some of them.
it may be something as simple as my usb port on the laptop, just wondering more about transfers stopping when the tablet goes to sleep?
air droid seems pretty neat, but 100mb limit per month?
You guys should check out Samsung Link. It allows you to access/transfer/stream content from any device it's running on from any Wi-Fi network. It also works over 3/4G.
Oh yeah, it's a 64gb adata micro sd
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distracto said:
How is your microSD formatted? NTFS or exFAT?
I am using windows XP, standard USB cables (that came with the device), large files (movies, tv shows) of over 10gigs some of them.
it may be something as simple as my usb port on the laptop, just wondering more about transfers stopping when the tablet goes to sleep?
air droid seems pretty neat, but 100mb limit per month?
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Windows XP will not support EX-FAT unless you have update (WindowsXP-KB955704-x86-ENU.exe) found here. 3.2 mb download http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=19364 For 32 bit.
distracto said:
How is your microSD formatted? NTFS or exFAT?
I am using windows XP, standard USB cables (that came with the device), large files (movies, tv shows) of over 10gigs some of them.
it may be something as simple as my usb port on the laptop, just wondering more about transfers stopping when the tablet goes to sleep?
air droid seems pretty neat, but 100mb limit per month?
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It's a Samsung 64GB SDXC card formatted exFAT. I'm running Windows 7 64-bit on a i7 based PC I just custom built, so it's USB 3.0 and very fast. I came from an old dual core Windows XP desktop PC (that I also built), so I know what you're feeling. Previously I would just sync or copy stuff over WiFi all the time without really noticing much of a speed difference over directly connecting my tablet/phone to my PC via a cable. But now whenever I can use my USB 3.0 card reader I do it because it's night and day different in terms of speed.
i reformatted it with windows, files are tranferring at ~13MB/s over USB2.0. Painful yes, but at lerast they are copying
i have yet to see if it works in the tablet after things are copied over. definitely easy to manage from within windows with teracopy pro, but would be nice if i could use es explorer over wifi on my home network and let the copies go overnight without waking up to failed transfers because the device went to sleep during the transfer....
.... Aaand now the tablet won't recognize the card. Should have formatted with the device, not the computer
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kkretch said:
Windows XP will not support EX-FAT unless you have update (WindowsXP-KB955704-x86-ENU.exe) found here. 3.2 mb download http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=19364 For 32 bit.
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thank you for the link.....XP recognized the card after installing the driver
i then formatted it exFAT and then i went ahead and copied over a couple 8 or 10gb files and a bunch of 1.5gb files. suddenly windows said the write delay failed and now i cant see the card in windows or the tablet.
this is getting off topic, but how do i now get anything to recognize the card? this is frustrating!
distracto said:
thank you for the link.....XP recognized the card after installing the driver
i then formatted it exFAT and then i went ahead and copied over a couple 8 or 10gb files and a bunch of 1.5gb files. suddenly windows said the write delay failed and now i cant see the card in windows or the tablet.
this is getting off topic, but how do i now get anything to recognize the card? this is frustrating!
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XP can return that error when moving large files esp. when you have write caching enabled. You could turn that off but it slows down you file cache.
I have also had errors in Windows 7 when moving to many large files at one time. I think the chip over heats as mine does get hot some times when I transfer large files in computer with adapter.
Can you see it in in windows - control panel/administrative tools/computer management/storage/
disk management.
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Can you see it in in windows - control panel/administrative tools/computer management/storage/
disk management.
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It shows up as disk 1 no media.
No partitions are visible and I cannot format or anything. Perhaps i wrecked the card?
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distracto said:
It shows up as disk 1 no media.
No partitions are visible and I cannot format or anything. Perhaps i wrecked the card?
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HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool - Format USB drives is my goto tool for a problem like this, but be very careful and make sure you selected the correct drive when and if you format. I have enclosed the tool, you can research it on the web if you like, search youtube.
kkretch said:
HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool - Format USB drives is my goto tool for a problem like this, but be very careful and make sure you selected the correct drive when and if you format. I have enclosed the tool, you can research it on the web if you like, search youtube.
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Thanks for all your help today. I'll give it a go. If nothing else I'll just buy a new card. I'm off to Hawaii on Friday and I was hoping to have the card loaded up with media and ready to go by then.
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