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I just picked up the verizon tab. Need a little newbie help. Having a few issues
1- How do i prevent battery drain when the unit is off at night but not on a charger it seems i lost battery life
2- How do i know what data source is being used when 3g or wifi both icons are showing on at the same time. if i just want use wifi how do i turn off the 3g radio?
3- anyone get allshare to work? whats the best way to stream stuff from the pc to the gtab?
4- when the battery was at 10% i couldnt adjust the screen brightness anymore it was dark. is that normal?
5-Any battery life tips? get the most out of the battery?
thanks!!!!
sillyrabbitt123 said:
I just picked up the verizon tab. Need a little newbie help. Having a few issues
1- How do i prevent battery drain when the unit is off at night but not on a charger it seems i lost battery life
2- How do i know what data source is being used when 3g or wifi both icons are showing on at the same time. if i just want use wifi how do i turn off the 3g radio?
3- anyone get allshare to work? whats the best way to stream stuff from the pc to the gtab?
4- when the battery was at 10% i couldnt adjust the screen brightness anymore it was dark. is that normal?
5-Any battery life tips? get the most out of the battery?
thanks!!!!
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1 - battery drain in standby shouldn't be significant but you can reduce it by turning off radios you don't need and/or reducing the update interval of any apps you have checking in the background.
2 - I'm not sure what's happening here, usually the wifi logo overwrites the 3g one so it is obvious which one is in use (at least it does on my UK SGT, might be different for CDMA). Either way switching on and off the various radios is easily done from the notification area, just swipe down from the top of the screen to show toggles for wifi, bt, gps, silent mode & orientation lock.
Edit: oops, I miss remembered, I don't know of an easy way to switch the mobile radio.
3 - I had a bit of a play with allshare day one but haven't had time to give it a proper workout yet.
4 - I haven't had mine run down that far but it sounds like a sensible power saving measure, better to see it dim for a while than bright for two minutes!
5 - the screen auto adjust in the display settings seems to help a lot. Other than that I've found the battery life to be very good for the most part. I tend to only switch on wifi if I have a big download to do so that might help in my case.
Welcome by the way, hope you enjoy the tab!
Bill
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obzbdc said:
Edit: oops, I miss remembered, I don't know of an easy way to switch the mobile radio.
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Hold the power button for a couple of seconds, you can toggle mobile data from the popup menu.
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Hold the power button for a couple of seconds, you can toggle mobile data from the popup menu.
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I just found that myself and headed back here only to have been beaten to the punch!
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obzbdc said:
1 - battery drain in standby shouldn't be significant but you can reduce it by turning off radios you don't need and/or reducing the update interval of any apps you have checking in the background.
2 - I'm not sure what's happening here, usually the wifi logo overwrites the 3g one so it is obvious which one is in use (at least it does on my UK SGT, might be different for CDMA). Either way switching on and off the various radios is easily done from the notification area, just swipe down from the top of the screen to show toggles for wifi, bt, gps, silent mode & orientation lock.
Edit: oops, I miss remembered, I don't know of an easy way to switch the mobile radio.
3 - I had a bit of a play with allshare day one but haven't had time to give it a proper workout yet.
4 - I haven't had mine run down that far but it sounds like a sensible power saving measure, better to see it dim for a while than bright for two minutes!
5 - the screen auto adjust in the display settings seems to help a lot. Other than that I've found the battery life to be very good for the most part. I tend to only switch on wifi if I have a big download to do so that might help in my case.
Welcome by the way, hope you enjoy the tab!
Bill
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THANKS Bill! Appreciate the info/advice!
I guess I am getting confused between the 3g/ the strength bars. So if it doesnt say 3g but just shows signal strength then its probably using wifi?
Does anyone know if the SGT defaults to wifi first then to 3g? Just curious.
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Hold the power button for a couple of seconds, you can toggle mobile data from the popup menu.
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THANKS. If you are home do you leave the 3g off? and just work off of you wifi connection? or do you leave them both running at the same time?
thanks
sillyrabbitt123 said:
THANKS. If you are home do you leave the 3g off? and just work off of you wifi connection? or do you leave them both running at the same time?
thanks
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When wifi is on it turns 3g off. I use an app called tasker to save my battery. I have it set to turn wifi/3g off when the screen turns off, and if I place it face down it sets the device into airplane mode, left in this state the battery drains very slow when not in use. Tasker is not the cheapest app but you are only limited by your imagination what you can do with it.
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Thanks for the info. I will check it out. Much appreciated!
Anyone else know how to use allshare? According to samsung you cannot stream from your pc to the tablet is this correct?
i am actually trying to do both stream from the pc to the tab and then seperately stream from the tab to the tv or blu ray player and or pc and nothing works any which way? not sure how to get this to work?
thanks
AllShare is an app that you can use to connect to other Samsung AllShare enabled divices like TV's. I removed the app. It is completely useless. (It would be so nice if there was an app by which I could connect to my homenetwork.)
Mado007 said:
AllShare is an app that you can use to connect to other Samsung AllShare enabled divices like TV's. I removed the app. It is completely useless. (It would be so nice if there was an app by which I could connect to my homenetwork.)
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Not quite correct! It allows you to stream from/to other DLNA devices which includes some Samsung TV's, but plenty of other devices too.
For example, I use to it to stream from/to my PCs with Media Center.
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Dave
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AllShare is an app that you can use to connect to other Samsung AllShare enabled divices like TV's. I removed the app. It is completely useless. (It would be so nice if there was an app by which I could connect to my homenetwork.)
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I have been using allshare with my ps3. On the tab open allshare and select my device as a source. do not select a playback device. Then on the ps3 go to music / video /photo and select the tab
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How do i connect eith all share to my pc? When i tried it only worked one way, from my Tab to the pc (and i like the other way around).
Another question: I removed OCLF can i flah a new rom (is it safe?) Thanks for answering.
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I found a program called Nobars in the market. What it does is monitor cell reception and turn the radio off when you have no signal. There is an option to keep WiFi active when it puts it into airplane mode.
I have confirmed that it works as it should by taking it out of airplane mode several times. Since installing it cell usage of the battery has not budged.
I know this can be done manually but this is an automatic option that constantly monitors.
Nice find
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Does this need root?
Cause it doesnt seem to work on mine (note rooted yet)
I dont see any notification as the settings suggest..
Its not working for me neither.
Mine is unrooted too.
Do we need root?
mine is rooted and it doesnt work : still have the "veille gsm" process sucking battery (A500 french)
I am rooted, it doesn't work for me either.
Does Airplane Mode Work?
Has anyone seen any positive effect of keeping the tablet in airplane mode and just turning WiFi on/off as you need it?
This app does not need root. While it was working great for me initially it now seems to have stopped working. I am going to play with it a little today.
And I definitely see a difference running in airplane mode.
There is another app I run on my droid x that shuts down everything at night. Going to see if that works on Honeycomb.
for anyone that it is not working for, you can turn on airplane mode manually and then re-enable wifi
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for anyone that it is not working for, you can turn on airplane mode manually and then re-enable wifi
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You can do this, but have not seen any adjustments to the battery use at all. It still keeps draining for the cell standby.
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Airplane mode does not fix the Cell Standby drain.
I have seen this topic discussed in the Androidtablets forum under the Acer specific thread. (I still can't post links but it's exhaustively been discussed in that thread).
Unfortunately, the a500 was designed exactly the same as the a501 (which will be the 3G enabled Acer tablet eventually).
The bottom line is, this probably won't ever be fixed. Renaming phone.apk and telephonyProvider.apk does fix the issue - but it also bricks your tablet.
For my Droid X, I use a widget called "Dazzle!" which gives me control over the Cell Radio - even on my Droid, I can disable Cell and not have a Cell Standby drain. Unfortunately, this widget does not appear in the market for the Acer...
I think we've gotta wait for a crafty developer for a workaround, or wait for some custom ROM's... Acer doesn't seem to have any plans for a software update for this.
Dalrimple said:
Airplane mode does not fix the Cell Standby drain.
I have seen this topic discussed in the Androidtablets forum under the Acer specific thread. (I still can't post links but it's exhaustively been discussed in that thread).
Unfortunately, the a500 was designed exactly the same as the a501 (which will be the 3G enabled Acer tablet eventually).
The bottom line is, this probably won't ever be fixed. Renaming phone.apk and telephonyProvider.apk does fix the issue - but it also bricks your tablet.
For my Droid X, I use a widget called "Dazzle!" which gives me control over the Cell Radio - even on my Droid, I can disable Cell and not have a Cell Standby drain. Unfortunately, this widget does not appear in the market for the Acer...
I think we've gotta wait for a crafty developer for a workaround, or wait for some custom ROM's... Acer doesn't seem to have any plans for a software update for this.
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All we need is a kernel that disables the ril. DJ_Steve did it for the Streak 7.
I have a help-ticket out at Acer about this issues, which has already surpassed Level 2 Tech support. It's been a while since my last response (which told me to send the unit in for faulty parts, haha). We'll see what Level 3 has to say. So far they've only sent form-letters back.
I have a feeling our developer community will have this issue solved well before acer even acknowledges it.
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I have a help-ticket out at Acer about this issues, which has already surpassed Level 2 Tech support. It's been a while since my last response (which told me to send the unit in for faulty parts, haha). We'll see what Level 3 has to say. So far they've only sent form-letters back.
I have a feeling our developer community will have this issue solved well before acer even acknowledges it.
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Which leaves us users who don't want to go the mod/root route in deep doo doo.
I completely agree.
I finally decided not to root my Droid X for the gingerbread update. But the tablet, I have to admit, I might have to actually Root to fix the issues.
I hope Acer creates a situation where Rooting isn't necessary. But, it looks doubtful. I'd rather root and gain 4+ hours of battery, than not root and gain nothing.
Hw does disabling telephony and phone apks brick a device? So far mine seems fine with them disabled.....?
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Hw does disabling telephony and phone apks brick a device? So far mine seems fine with them disabled.....?
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How is your battery life before and after? And, renaming them does nothing unless you reset the Iconia.
What I don't understand is just what kind of reset does this. There's a lot of chatter here but to me a hard reset always meant a complete wipe of the device back to factory default state. Apparently even a "soft reset", i.e., just rebooting will also bork the Iconia so just be careful.
Am I on to something here?
Hi guys, I am a noob here so please dun flame me
I actually installed minimalist text onto my A500. I tried to customize my widget,
and when I went into the part where I can customize the activity of clicking my widget, I discovered that the list consist of mobile network settings (It actually consist of the full list of mobile networking settings)
Out of curiosity, I selected the mobile data network setting as my widgets default action. When I went into the setting, the "Data Enabled: Enable data access over Mobile Network" is actually being checked. I had unchecked it, and now my "cell standby" in my battery use has stopped.
Maybe I got it wrong or its just coincidence, but I thought maybe someone else can try it and see whether is it really workable?
I am keeping a look out on the battery statistics; hopefully it really works.
kkaytan said:
Hi guys, I am a noob here so please dun flame me
I actually installed minimalist text onto my A500. I tried to customize my widget,
and when I went into the part where I can customize the activity of clicking my widget, I discovered that the list consist of mobile network settings (It actually consist of the full list of mobile networking settings)
Out of curiosity, I selected the mobile data network setting as my widgets default action. When I went into the setting, the "Data Enabled: Enable data access over Mobile Network" is actually being checked. I had unchecked it, and now my "cell standby" in my battery use has stopped.
Maybe I got it wrong or its just coincidence, but I thought maybe someone else can try it and see whether is it really workable?
I am keeping a look out on the battery statistics; hopefully it really works.
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Wow! I just went into my Beautiful Weather settings and under the "Advanced Panel" you can specify an action for clicking on the time (or weather). When this is done, it provides a large list of action - this list, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't show up anywhere.
Anyway, Mobile Data was checked (yes or on) so I cleared the list (resulting in mobile data being UNCHECKED) and rebooted. Mobile data remained unchecked so I'll watch for a while and report results later.
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Wow! I just went into my Beautiful Weather settings and under the "Advanced Panel" you can specify an action for clicking on the time (or weather). When this is done, it provides a large list of action - this list, to the best of my knowledge, doesn't show up anywhere.
Anyway, Mobile Data was checked (yes or on) so I cleared the list (resulting in mobile data being UNCHECKED) and rebooted. Mobile data remained unchecked so I'll watch for a while and report results later.
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Yeah the list didnt show up anywhere unless we went to customise widget setups like what we did. Lets see how things goes!
And it seems as though the mobile network settings etc is hidden due to the fact that our A500 is wifi only?
Wife and I both have Note 3's. My Note 3 makes it through about 1 or 2 songs and then disconnects from the Chromecast. This causes all music to stop playing and the Google Play Music app on the tv to return to the headphone start screen. I've compared all types of phone settings, wifi, etc between wife's phone and mine. I even did a factory reset on my phone, no change. My son's S3 has no issues, our Note 2's had no issues, only my N3.
Anyone else having these issues? More importantly know how to fix the Chromecast disconnect. Thx.
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Wife and I both have Note 3's. My Note 3 makes it through about 1 or 2 songs and then disconnects from the Chromecast. This causes all music to stop playing and the Google Play Music app on the tv to return to the headphone start screen. I've compared all types of phone settings, wifi, etc between wife's phone and mine. I even did a factory reset on my phone, no change. My son's S3 has no issues, our Note 2's had no issues, only my N3.
Anyone else having these issues? More importantly know how to fix the Chromecast disconnect. Thx.
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This may or may not work but in an old phone I had a similar issue with pandora. Hopefully this works but if you have an option for streaming for high quality, turn that on, then reset your phone right after and start the program and see if it works. Ib know it sounds completely illogical but it worked on that phone with pandora, maybe it will work with this
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Using the program REGPON wifi keep alive, located in the Play Store, I'm now having disconnect free Chromecast playback. Appears it was an issue with the wifi going to sleep even though it was check marked to Always stay on in the advanced wifi settings.
Hope this helps someone else.
AzWolverine said:
Using the program REGPON wifi keep alive, located in the Play Store, I'm now having disconnect free Chromecast playback. Appears it was an issue with the wifi going to sleep even though it was check marked to Always stay on in the advanced wifi settings.
Hope this helps someone else.
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REGPON worked on my N3! Others in the house had trouble with their N2s.. will recommend this app to them.
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AzWolverine said:
Using the program REGPON wifi keep alive, located in the Play Store, I'm now having disconnect free Chromecast playback. Appears it was an issue with the wifi going to sleep even though it was check marked to Always stay on in the advanced wifi settings.
Hope this helps someone else.
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This helped my problem on the Nexus 7. It's such an odd thing that I need to use this though.
This problem is happening when I cast Netflix from Chrome on my laptop (Toshiba Satellite). Its incredibly annoying.
AzWolverine said:
Using the program REGPON wifi keep alive, located in the Play Store, I'm now having disconnect free Chromecast playback. Appears it was an issue with the wifi going to sleep even though it was check marked to Always stay on in the advanced wifi settings.
Hope this helps someone else.
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I've got a oneplus one running CM os 12. With Google play music this was the only solution that worked and I also had the wifi set to not sleep. Interesting, never saw any other signs of wifi going to sleep. It will be interesting to see if the battery usage is affected. I'm guessing it wont be.
Thanks a ton for saving the day. Really enjoying play music now.
Are you guys disabling this using Package Disabler? Just curious if it can improve battery in any way?
I disabled it and got almost 7 hours of sot my first day.
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Mu5ic92 said:
Are you guys disabling this using Package Disabler? Just curious if it can improve battery in any way?
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You can disable it, but certain core functions may not work. Samsung Pay for example.
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You can disable it, but certain core functions may not work. Samsung Pay for example.
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I can confirm that Samsung pay works with it disabled. From what I understand, this has something to do with push notifications for Samsung apps. I'm not sure exactly which apps, or what functions break if this is disabled (I don't use many Samsung apps), but pay does work. Push Services was a known battery killer on the s6, so I disabled it on my s7 as well. No ill effects yet.
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I can confirm that Samsung pay works with it disabled. From what I understand, this has something to do with push notifications for Samsung apps. I'm not sure exactly which apps, or what functions break if this is disabled (I don't use many Samsung apps), but pay does work. Push Services was a known battery killer on the s6, so I disabled it on my s7 as well. No ill effects yet.
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Would you mind sharing what you disabled in total? I've shut down a nice long list of apps, but only got a marginal bump in battery. Of course it doesn't help that the radio shipping with the S7 Edge is worse than the recent Note 5 updates. Back to relying on WiFi Calling at the office again. Plus WiFi doesn't automatically reconnect if I walk out of range and back in, it waits for me to turn the screen on.
I left mine on and still get 7-7hr 30 mins of SOT
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Would you mind sharing what you disabled in total? I've shut down a nice long list of apps, but only got a marginal bump in battery. Of course it doesn't help that the radio shipping with the S7 Edge is worse than the recent Note 5 updates. Back to relying on WiFi Calling at the office again. Plus WiFi doesn't automatically reconnect if I walk out of range and back in, it waits for me to turn the screen on.
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This is my list, which did not give me the bump in battery life I was hoping for either. I'm also seeing the same wifi and radio issues as well
Is this a separate app to disable them all?
NVM I bought and took out some annoying apps its a nice sweet app!
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This is my list, which did not give me the bump in battery life I was hoping for either. I'm also seeing the same wifi and radio issues as well
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Thanks for the list.
I'm hoping the other issues get ironed out with the March or April updates that should be coming within 4-6 weeks. On the up side however, WiFi Calling connects instantly on this phone and I've yet to get double/triple/quadruple messages arriving.
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Thanks for the list.
I'm hoping the other issues get ironed out with the March or April updates that should be coming within 4-6 weeks. On the up side however, WiFi Calling connects instantly on this phone and I've yet to get double/triple/quadruple messages arriving.
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Well that's good. Silver linings and all that.
I found out that disabling the Wifi Scanning and Bluetooth Scanning options did help a bit with battery, but the issue I have with turning them off is finding another trigger for some of my Tasker profiles. Using GPS-Based location is more battery hungry than the Wifi near state, and Net-Based location and Cell Near State aren't reliable enough due to poor signal at work, so I'm stuck using the Wifi near, which requires Wifi scanning to be on.
At this point I'm waiting for an update or root to be able to squash this issue. Still happy with the phone though. I know that early software is often buggy, and this phone still has the best hardware in the game, so once the OS is updated/rooted, all will be well.
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Well that's good. Silver linings and all that.
I found out that disabling the Wifi Scanning and Bluetooth Scanning options did help a bit with battery, but the issue I have with turning them off is finding another trigger for some of my Tasker profiles. Using GPS-Based location is more battery hungry than the Wifi near state, and Net-Based location and Cell Near State aren't reliable enough due to poor signal at work, so I'm stuck using the Wifi near, which requires Wifi scanning to be on.
At this point I'm waiting for an update or root to be able to squash this issue. Still happy with the phone though. I know that early software is often buggy, and this phone still has the best hardware in the game, so once the OS is updated/rooted, all will be well.
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Absolutely! Samsung caught a lot of crap over the years (their own fault with early TouchWiz), but a complete 180 has occurred and I'm more than content to use their phones for a long time coming.
Akw6190 said:
Well that's good. Silver linings and all that.
I found out that disabling the Wifi Scanning and Bluetooth Scanning options did help a bit with battery, but the issue I have with turning them off is finding another trigger for some of my Tasker profiles. Using GPS-Based location is more battery hungry than the Wifi near state, and Net-Based location and Cell Near State aren't reliable enough due to poor signal at work, so I'm stuck using the Wifi near, which requires Wifi scanning to be on.
At this point I'm waiting for an update or root to be able to squash this issue. Still happy with the phone though. I know that early software is often buggy, and this phone still has the best hardware in the game, so once the OS is updated/rooted, all will be well.
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How did you disable bluetooth and wifi scanning? Dont see any option for that.
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Absolutely! Samsung caught a lot of crap over the years (their own fault with early TouchWiz), but a complete 180 has occurred and I'm more than content to use their phones for a long time coming.
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Agreed. I find that Samsung phones generally have the best hardware available, even if the software is slightly lacking, which I find is the case much less nowadays. But since the hardware is boss, the phone is worth a buy since most software issues can be addressed and fixed with custom ROMs. Best of both worlds IMO.
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How did you disable bluetooth and wifi scanning? Dont see any option for that.
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They're in the settings under Privacy and Safety>Location>Improve Accuracy
Now that I've got the Moto X Pure Edition activated, I've been able to work out some of the kinks inherent using it as a daily driver. One noteworthy issue that remains is an odd bug where the device will completely lose connection to the Internet on both a WiFi and cellular data connection, usually after transitioning between types of connections. When this happens, an exclamation point is displayed next to the icon representing whichever connection is currently active and nothing is able to transmit data to or from the Internet or even my local network.
Rebooting the device always fixes the problem, but this issue is materializing a bit too often for my liking, which is usually once every time that I return to a WiFi network after being disconnected from one for some time (more testing may have to be done to confirm exactly what triggers it).
The device is running the stock rom (rooted) and the stock kernel along with the usual tweaks (ad-blocking, Xposed framework, audio fixes, etc.). Anybody seen this before or know what might be causing it?
UPDATE (3/1/2017)
Figured it out! The problem appears to have been caused by my failure to whitelist certain applications in PowerNap. After following the instructions found in the Moto X Pure Edition power optimization thread, the problem appears to have vanished. I don't know if it was the Google Services Framework, JavaTcmdHelper, Android System, or some combination of those that needed to be whitelisted, but the problem has vanished. At least one of those must be responsible for verifying the validity of an Internet connection in sleep mode, which would cause the device to become confused when it would wake up with a different connection that it hadn't verified (that's my theory at least).
At any rate, it is no longer an issue.
Update (Later on 3/1/2017)
Well, it looks like it might not be fixed so well after all. A couple hours after arriving home today, I went to use the device and saw the dreaded "!" next to the network indicator. Still, two days is longer than it's ever lasted before. I've cleared the cache and dalvik/ART cache to see if something in there might be gumming it up and will add another post to this thread if the problem returns.
Still an issue
Looks like it might not be fixed after all. I lost connection again the other day in a parking lot and once more today after getting home. Any ideas as to what could be causing this?
I just recently got my x pure. I've seen this issue on mine too.
Another one!
inkdaddy66 said:
I just recently got my x pure. I've seen this issue on mine too.
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Interesting. Are you running the stock Rom? Rooted? Amplify/Greenify/PowerNap?
Bill720 said:
Interesting. Are you running the stock Rom? Rooted? Amplify/Greenify/PowerNap?
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I'm unlocked and rooted. Running validus 7.1.1 ROM.
does your configuration look anything like this?
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I'm unlocked and rooted. Running validus 7.1.1 ROM.
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That too is interesting. I'm running the stock Rom, (rooted) so we can probably eliminate that as a potential cause. Given how little reference there is to this on the web at large, the problem is probably caused by a common app or setting (or some kind of unfortunate combination) running on both of our phones.
All we need to do is figure out what kind of "unusual" stuff our devices have in common. I'll rattle off a list of software and settings that might be out of the ordinary or network-related; you tell me if you're running anything like it on your phone.
AdFree
A.R.I.S.E. audio
FolderSync
Ice Box (Motorola Update Service is the only frozen app)
TOTAL Wireless My Account App
Pebble, MyTracks, and Pebble MyTracks
SlingPlayer (this one sometimes wakelocks)
Titanium backup (I tried restoring some WiFi access points once, but it didn't work)
Xposed Framework with Amplify, Greenify, and Power Nap installed and configured as instructed in the Moto X Pure Edition battery life guide thread OP. I've also got MinMinGuard and YouTube AdAway.
As far as settings go, I've not got much in the way of unusual configurations. I enabled the system UI tuner to get the battery percentage and the extended developer options to try out multi-window, (and to change the animation scales to .5X) but everything in there is still pretty much stock.
Does your configuration have anything in common with mine?
Close, but no cigar
It got almost 8 days this time before it happened again. I thought that maybe switching to the legacy DHCP client had done the trick, but that was apparently not the case. Any ideas as to what could be causing the issue or how to fix it?
Or, if you're having the same problem, can you look at my list in the previous post and tell me if any of the software or settings are similar so that we can narrow down the cause?
I have had this problem appear about three times over my 13 months of ownership and all three times was when my bootloader was still locked (obviously running stock not rooted). Never found a solution except to reboot.i only unlocked and rooted my device about a month ago.
Anything familiar?
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I have had this problem appear about three times over my 13 months of ownership and all three times was when my bootloader was still locked (obviously running stock not rooted). Never found a solution except to reboot.i only unlocked and rooted my device about a month ago.
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Interesting. Between that, my findings, and the fact that @inkdaddy66 was having the problem on a non-Motorola Rom, I want to think that we can eliminate the Rom software as a cause. Did you see any familiar software on my "potential troublemakers" list up in post 6? I'm thinking that if we can find a common program or workflow, then we'll be able to narrow down the cause of the problem.
In the meantime, I'll try posting in the general Android troubleshooting forum here on XDA and see if anybody there has seen the problem or has any troubleshooting tips.
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Interesting. Between that, my findings, and the fact that @inkdaddy66 was having the problem on a non-Motorola Rom, I want to think that we can eliminate the Rom software as a cause. Did you see any familiar software on my "potential troublemakers" list up in post 6? I'm thinking that if we can find a common program or workflow, then we'll be able to narrow down the cause of the problem.
In the meantime, I'll try posting in the general Android troubleshooting forum here on XDA and see if anybody there has seen the problem or has any troubleshooting tips.
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Nothing used from your list except system UI tuner when I experienced the problems. That would leave either a ROM and/or hardware issue IMO.
Cause and effect differential diagnosis
aybarrap1 said:
Nothing used from your list except system UI tuner when I experienced the problems. That would leave either a ROM and/or hardware issue IMO.
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Hmmm... That's also interesting, but I just don't see how system UI tuner could be harming anything. Do you have any other apps or settings at all that you think could be causing the issue?
If this were anything other than my primary, I'd hard reset and troubleshoot that way, but I don't exactly have the time to pull the rug out of an otherwise-working setup right now, so this is going to have to be done the hard way (or, in the case of hardware glitch, lived with).
At any rate, I discovered a new symptom earlier in the week. This time, Internet connection was lost, but only for WiFi, so the connection would actually fall back to Cellular and still continue to work. As before, toggling the connection had no effect, but rebooting the device "fixed" it. I thought maybe it was a fluke, since we'd had an AP hiccup over the weekend, (I refuse to reboot that thing because I'm going for an uptime record) but it happened again on Wednesday, so I'm not sure what to make of it.
Side-issue aside, I'm beginning to wonder if it's some kind of combination of network behavior and usage pattern that brings the issue about. It seems like if I stay within range of the WiFi network, no issue develops, but if I move out of its coverage and don't touch the phone for a while, that allows for ideal conditions under which to replicate the problem (sometimes). I haven't nailed down a consistent pattern yet, but the problem does emerge more often when I'm returning home than at other times. Any thoughts?
Update (3/24/2017; 12:32PM)
Scratch that last part about the issue only being triggered upon "arriving home." The problem happened again this morning, in the same general area. First, no WiFI, then, after resetting the connections, no cellular either. I captured a LogCat before rebooting this time though. Anyone want to take a crack at sifting through that to see if it offers any clues?
I lose cellular data, from time to time, I don't kow if I'm losing WiFi capability also, because I'm on the road when this happens.
It takes a reboot or switching in and out of airplane mode to regain data.
I have had this happen on TruPureXMM ROM and stock-rooted Marshmallow.
I have not spent much time on stock-unrooted, so i don't know if it would happen then, also.
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Just to follow up on this again, I have finally reached the eighth day of uptime without the problem materializing, which is the longest that I was able to go before without it happening. This time, I went in to the developer options and disabled "Cellular data always active." I'd give it another couple days to know for sure, but if this sticks, then I think we might've found the fix!
pizza_pablo said:
I lose cellular data, from time to time, I don't kow if I'm losing WiFi capability also, because I'm on the road when this happens.
It takes a reboot or switching in and out of airplane mode to regain data.
I have had this happen on TruPureXMM ROM and stock-rooted Marshmallow.
I have not spent much time on stock-unrooted, so i don't know if it would happen then, also.
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If your trouble is isolated to just one connection and/or cycling the connection brings it back, then the issue you are experiencing is unrelated to the one described in this thread.
Bill720 said:
Just to follow up on this again, I have finally reached the eighth day of uptime without the problem materializing, which is the longest that I was able to go before without it happening. This time, I went in to the developer options and disabled "Cellular data always active." I'd give it another couple days to know for sure, but if this sticks, then I think we might've found the fix!
If your trouble is isolated to just one connection and/or cycling the connection brings it back, then the issue you are experiencing is unrelated to the one described in this thread.
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Cellular data always active should never be on (it's disabled in stock rom), except if you have VoLTE only with no fallback to 3G or 2G (Jio is the only provider that comes to mind, but this phone doesn't support their service anyway) or otherwise unusual scenarios I can't really think of.
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Always on is not necessarily a good thing. Reality is that when you lose or turn off WiFi, mobile data should only be delayed only by a second or two. There is no real benefit to having it on except for maybe VOLTE.
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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Actually, it's a battery killer more than anything else... It keeps cellular data active even when on WiFi.
It is possible it's a tower thing though. I have noticed at this one hotel I stay at frequently people tell me they call and it rings or just goes to voicemail even though I have good signal. After investigating it a bit, I'm in a spot that has nearly identical signal strength from 3 towers and it's a metro area so there are 4+ bands accessible... I've seen times watching LTE Discovery where it keeps switching bands and towers for 30 to 120 seconds or so, like it can't make up it's mind what to talk to because it's confused, then it locks on for a while before it starts it's cycle again. During those cycles I think is when people can't call me, can't really say if it affects internet or not since I tend not to use my phone too much in the evenings when I'm on the road (usually on laptop).
Uptime record, but... it's back
acejavelin said:
Cellular data always active should never be on (it's disabled in stock rom), except if you have VoLTE only with no fallback to 3G or 2G (Jio is the only provider that comes to mind, but this phone doesn't support their service anyway) or otherwise unusual scenarios I can't really think of.
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Interesting. I thought for sure that I had the default settings checked in there, but maybe I did change it early on and just forgot. Either way, waiting an extra five seconds to establish a data connection isn't that huge of a deal for me, so I'll leave it off anyway in exchange for battery life when the signal's poor.
At any rate, however, the problem has returned. I was just a few hours short of 9 days of uptime and really thought that I was out of the woods with this problem, but it has returned once again upon returning into range of the home access point. Looks like we're back to the drawing board on this one.
pizza_pablo said:
Huh, and CELLULAR DATA ALWAYS ACTIVE (for faster network switching) sounds like such a good thing.
Mine was selected on.
My loss of data happens in the same spot, usually, but is not leaving wifi. Perhaps it is a tower to tower handoff spot.
I turned it off. Time will tell.
Thanks, fellas!
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So you're having the same problem too? That makes at least four of us now. Do you mind sharing what Rom and flashed tweaks (Xposed Framework, A.R.I.S.E. audio, root, etc.) you're using as well as any unusual software or settings? Anything in common with my list on page 1?
Bill720 said:
So you're having the same problem too? That makes at least four of us now. Do you mind sharing what Rom and flashed tweaks (Xposed Framework, A.R.I.S.E. audio, root, etc.) you're using as well as any unusual software or settings? Anything in common with my list on page 1?
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I think we've established that my issue is different, but it has occurred on TruPureXMM and stock but rooted Marshmallow, both with Substratum, Xposed (Gravity Box only) and Viper Atmos.
Same as you =Titanium Backup
*another* new strategy (sigh)
For this week's shot in the dark, I'm going to try manually switching WiFi off before I leave anyplace covered by an access point. Since the problem seems to occur most often when connected to WiFi or when connecting to it, maybe this will make some kind of a difference.
pizza_pablo said:
I think we've established that my issue is different, but it has occurred on TruPureXMM and stock but rooted Marshmallow, both with Substratum, Xposed (Gravity Box only) and Viper Atmos.
Same as you =Titanium Backup
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I see now; my mistake.