Kind of curious...
The GN3 appears to support the frequencies of the various carriers included. Perhaps making the device portable from Carrier to Carrier.
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
Anyone have any idea if the carriers are going to bother with hacks like for example like Verizon did on the GN2 (removed a bunch of functions and hardware modifications).
I'm on Verizon now but leaning on moving to another carrier if the Verizon "version" has been crippled again. I'm also leaning on a non-contract purchase since I think the various plans are going to be in flux over the next year.
krelvinaz said:
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
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You didn't think you'd escape, did you?
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Galaxy+...uId=1951103&st=note3&cp=1&lp=3&contract_desc=
As for changes, VZW really did a hack job on the N2 s/w wise. I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps. I'm getting the AT&T N3 which will be my first carrier phone in over two years. If I can find an international LTE version that supports their bands (EU and Latin America don't so far) my AT&T N3 will be on eBay. I don't care what the carriers add, it can be disabled and with 32GB of RAM it's not that big a deal. I'm just afraid of them screwing around with some of the international functionality for no good reason. That and potentially waiting a lifetime between updates. You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
will they get that ugly tramp stamp on the home button too?
BarryH_GEG said:
You didn't think you'd escape, did you?
As for changes, VZW really did a hack job on the N2 s/w wise. I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps. I'm getting the AT&T N3 which will be my first carrier phone in over two years. If I can find an international LTE version that supports their bands (EU and Latin America don't so far) my AT&T N3 will be on eBay. I don't care what the carriers add, it can be disabled and with 32GB of RAM it's not that big a deal. I'm just afraid of them screwing around with some of the international functionality for no good reason. That and potentially waiting a lifetime between updates. You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
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Those are just covers. Replace the cover and the marking is gone. Unlike many phones, the covers don't have antennas in them.
Specs from the phone:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data: LTE Cat4 Downlink 150 Mbit/s, LTE Cat3/4 Uplink 50 Mbit/s, HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
Showing radio coverage of all the carriers.. which is why I am asking.
BarryH_GEG said:
I haven't followed their SGS4 to see if it followed in the N2's footsteps.
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They didn't change any thing hardware wise on the VZN S4 just software
BarryH_GEG said:
You CDMA guys (Sprint and VZW) don't really have much choice other than to take what's doled out. So far the same applies to getting LTE on T-Mobile and AT&T.
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Sad panda :crying:
krelvinaz said:
Those are just covers. Replace the cover and the marking is gone. Unlike many phones, the covers don't have antennas in them.
Specs from the phone:
GSM: 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS: 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data: LTE Cat4 Downlink 150 Mbit/s, LTE Cat3/4 Uplink 50 Mbit/s, HSDPA+ (4G) 42.2 Mbit/s, HSUPA 5.76 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE, GPRS
Showing radio coverage of all the carriers.. which is why I am asking.
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Here's AT&T
Here's the UK, LTE bands aren't identified on Samsung, Clove, or Handtec's sites
Here's the EU and LTA from Negri
So AT&T dropped 900MHz UMTS for some reason and is only using 4 LTE bands when the N3's radio supports 6. The EU versions of the S-800 N3 would work fine in the U.S. on 2/3G but not LTE and only VZW branded phones work on their CDMA network. I don't know what question you're really asking as VZW's radio is going to be different from those identified so far because it's CDMA/GSM (for LTE) and will have VZW's LTE bands making it "non-standard" to anything else out there. Same thing for AT&T's. There's some 900MHz frequency in Europe, LATAM, Asia, and Australia so I have no idea why AT&T would omit 900MHz and limit their customer’s roaming options (or the ability to use their N3 unlocked with another carrier's SIM) in those markets. With Sprint being CDMA/LTE like VZW and on their own LTE frequencies and T-Mobile still depending on 1700MHz in most markets no U.S. N3 will be “pure” from a radio perspective; at least not compared to what Samsung ships "stock" everywhere else in the world.
Info from VZW Phone they are selling...
CDMA Data – 1x and EVDO Rev0/RevA
LTE: B13 (700MHz)
Global Ready (GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
When Looking at the pre-purchase page, it asks an interesting question.
Do you want to use this phone Internationally?
wonder if that means they have to unlock it for you to do so?
Wireless charging
krelvinaz said:
Kind of curious...
The GN3 appears to support the frequencies of the various carriers included. Perhaps making the device portable from Carrier to Carrier.
Looking at the images on Verizon, it doesn't appear to have any Verizon markings.
Anyone have any idea if the carriers are going to bother with hacks like for example like Verizon did on the GN2 (removed a bunch of functions and hardware modifications).
I'm on Verizon now but leaning on moving to another carrier if the Verizon "version" has been crippled again. I'm also leaning on a non-contract purchase since I think the various plans are going to be in flux over the next year.
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Yeah I am on Verizon as well and really wondering are they going to block the wireless charging again? Any one know? The branding does not really bother me I would do same if it was my company.
Thinking of putting my note II on ebay and picking up the III. Think there are users out there that would love a rooted Jedi x free wifi tethering phone but that just might be because I love it so much.
VZW International Option
krelvinaz said:
Info from VZW Phone they are selling...
CDMA Data – 1x and EVDO Rev0/RevA
LTE: B13 (700MHz)
Global Ready (GSM/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900; HSPA/UMTS: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz)
When Looking at the pre-purchase page, it asks an interesting question.
Do you want to use this phone Internationally?
wonder if that means they have to unlock it for you to do so?
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If you check the box when ordering you will be given a choice of which international plan you want to subscribe to. This can be added later, if you don't want to incur the cost upon activation.
Are the Specs for the note 3 On Sprints network released yet?
I plan to get a note 3 with umts 900 from any carrier that supports it.
I hate that At&T always remove that.
Seems like the verizon version will be unlocked.
I might get that and replace the back.
LTE and HSPA Frequencies for the AT&T and T-Mobile Variant
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/11/samsung-galaxy-note-3-reaches-the-fcc-in-att-and-sprint-forms/
Provides links to the FCC site for GN3 versions for AT&T/T-Mobile, Sprint and Verizon. This post is regarding supported frequencies. I focus only on the AT&T/T-Mobile model.
The hyperlink SM-N900T goes to the shared model for AT&T and T-Mobile at the FCC. The relevant document is the one called Test Report. Page 6 is where the supported frequencies are listed. For HSPA (WCDMA), it's 850, 1700/2100 and 1900 MHz. For LTE, it's 700 (the AT&T type 700, not Verizon's band), 850, 1700/2100 and 1900.
Apparently, the N900T is used by both carriers despite AT&T and T-Mobile websites giving conflicting specs. For example, T-Mobile's site http://www.t-mobile.com/cell-phones/samsung-galaxy-note-3.html doesn't even specify the LTE frequency (scroll down to Specifications/International). But you can see from the Test Report to the FCC what they are. AT&T website doesn't even list AWS 1700/2100 presumably for business reasons but it is technically supported.
The hyperlink SM-N900W8 on that Engadget page is for Bluetooth. Ignore it.
There you go...the AT&T and T-Mobile models are interchangeable.
A cursory look at the Test Reports for the Sprint and Version models demonstrate exactly what is already known or expected.
StarTAC Fan said:
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There you go...the AT&T and T-Mobile models are interchangeable....
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Until you realized you need wifi calling because you can't get any service with T-Mobile
This is to follow up on my post yesterday.
In the links to the FCC filings, the documents called "Test Report" lists the following bands and frequencies. It's either on the first page or in the section called EUT Description of the relevant document for each of the carriers.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=736794&fcc_id=A3LSMN900A
AT&T version (SM-N900A) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that Verizon's 700 MHz band.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=134996&fcc_id=A3LSMN900P
Sprint version (SM-N900P) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 25 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=566535&fcc_id=A3LSMN900T
T-Mobile vesion (SM-N900T) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) Note this is also the band for AT&T but not Verizon which is band 13 700 MHz.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=956586&fcc_id=A3LSMN900V
Verizon version (SM-N900V) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 13 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that AT&T's 700 MHz band.
StarTAC Fan said:
In the links to the FCC filings, the documents called "Test Report" lists the following bands and frequencies. It's either on the first page or in the section called EUT Description of the relevant document for each of the carriers.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=736794&fcc_id=A3LSMN900A
AT&T version (SM-N900A) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that Verizon's 700 MHz band.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=134996&fcc_id=A3LSMN900P
Sprint version (SM-N900P) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 25 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=566535&fcc_id=A3LSMN900T
T-Mobile vesion (SM-N900T) supports the following (GSM omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 17 700 MHz (tx and rx) Note this is also the band for AT&T but not Verizon which is band 13 700 MHz.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=956586&fcc_id=A3LSMN900V
Verizon version (SM-N900V) supports the following (GSM/CDMA omitted).
WCDMA Band 2 1900 MHz (tx and rx)
WCDMA Band 5 850 MHz (tx and rx)
LTE Band 4 1700/2100 MHz (tx/rx)
LTE Band 13 700 MHz (tx and rx) This is of course different that AT&T's 700 MHz band.
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Looks like the T-mo version is leading the way as far as supported GSM bands is concerned. in addition, T-mo does not have a history of locking it's bootloaders. Getting the T-mo version and unlocking it to use ATT. (If the nexus 5 underwhelms)
With all the above said... It seems that TMO note 3 is the way to go..... Even with a At&t sim...... Do we know if it is unlocked ? Or will it need to be....... ??
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
sk8ordie0 said:
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
rooted,recovered,and rebooted from the ol' i777.......
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I am strongly tempted to do just that. I'm so frieken stuck between this and the z1 though. IDK what to do!!! Halp!
sk8ordie0 said:
Just wondering if anyone out there has ordered the TMO note 3 from Negri electronics that will be using a at&t sim?? It says on their site that its unlocked......
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Yup, ordered on the 17th.
Ok means if i buy the Note 3 for T-Mo unlock from negri i can use without any problems with AT&T using LTE,HSPA,3G or phone calls?
I have a 3G GSM modem for sierra wireless. It supports 850/900/1800/1900 GSM/EDGE frequency bands and UMTS B1/B2/B5/B6/B8 frequency bands.
Is Tmobile's 1900 MHZ 3G refarming completed in most parts of NYC and USA ?
Will I be able to get a 3G signal on my modem in USA (primarily all boroughs of new york city) and be able to upload and download data despite not having the B4 frequency band ?
I believe B1 is 2100, B2 is 1900 , B3 is 1800, B4 is 1700, B5 is 850, B6 is 800, B7 is 2600 and B8 is 900.