Can a new S4 from ATT carrier be rooted? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

Saw a good deal for a new Galaxy S4 for $79 + $70 trade in on my old HTC One. So only $10 for the New S4: )
But reading around people saying the New S4 firmware has a hard lock on it and not easy to root and only one or two roms working on it?
I was gonna root it and put the Google Play Edition ROM on it but some say that's not possible on new S4 from ATT carriers now?
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You should do some searching but the s4 with mf3 can be rooted. I know they're not going to have the the new 4.3 update on it yet. But I'd say get the s4 and use the kingo root method.
Use this guide for rooting
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2473747
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2428254
Use this guide for your ROMs
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Root doesn't mean unlocked. You can be rooted and still have a locked bootloader.did you read before posting? I'm not trying to come off rude.
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re: AT&T Rooting
Zorachus said:
Saw a good deal for a new Galaxy S4 for $79 + $70 trade in on my old HTC One. So only $10 for the New S4: )
But reading around people saying the New S4 firmware has a hard lock on it and not easy to root and only one or two roms working on it?
I was gonna root it and put the Google Play Edition ROM on it but some say that's not possible on new S4 from ATT carriers now?
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You will be able to root the AT&T Galaxy S4 easily, almost everyone here in this AT&T S4 forum
already has rooted their phones and have flashed custom roms without any issues.
Good luck!

MF3 can be rooted but you can't flash a custom recovery (TWRP, CWM) If you're asking if you can root the device and flash a custom rom, it all depends on your AT&T store. Try and go to your AT&T store and before they unbox the S4 and start activating everything, make sure you tell them you want a phone with the firmware MDL on it. If they don't have any with the firmware MDL, tough luck. If you get an S4 with MF3, you can only root.

Not only root.
Root it and install Safestrap to install most TW based ROMs that run 4.2.2
Most important is to lube your eyes and
READ/SEARCH all info to do with your build or you will be a victim of the I bricked my phone cause I can't read.you can Google anything to do with your phone and ad "xda" to the search and you will find what you are looking for.
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Last two phones I had, the Nexus 4, and Note 2 on ATT, were easy as pie to root and install recovery, and that was it, you were done forever, just flash a ROM + Kernel, reboot and bam you had a fresh new ROM to enjoy, and was so easy and fast to do get it installed, was a no brainer. What happened in the past year with phones being so locked down so hard, where you can't just do that anymore ?
Wish all Android phones were as simple as a Nexus to flash rom's on. But I don't want the Nexus 5 phone with tiny battery, I like bigger batteries or removable, and more storage options, etc...

Yes it can be rooted using the external sd card method. Its actually easy to do.
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aarond1004 said:
Yes it can be rooted using the external sd card method. Its actually easy to do.
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The is an even easier method called kingo root that was previously stated.
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graydiggy said:
The is an even easier method called kingo root that was previously stated.
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Thank you. So I can root it no problem, but then it's a matter of very select ROM's available due to my firmware ? And none of them can be 4.3 based ? Which the S4 doesn't even officially have yet, but not even the Google Play Edition ROM that is 4.3 can be installed on this firmware, only the older 4.2.2 version ?
Ok, so I root with using 'Kingo' method
Then install the safestrap .apk, and install that
And then install only a ROM on the provided list, which will all be 4.2.2 based only ? Still rather have any of those, than just stock TW out of the box unrooted

All correct
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Zorachus said:
Thank you. So I can root it no problem, but then it's a matter of very select ROM's available due to my firmware ? And none of them can be 4.3 based ? Which the S4 doesn't even officially have yet, but not even the Google Play Edition ROM that is 4.3 can be installed on this firmware, only the older 4.2.2 version ?
Ok, so I root with using 'Kingo' method
Then install the safestrap .apk, and install that
And then install only a ROM on the provided list, which will all be 4.2.2 based only ? Still rather have any of those, than just stock TW out of the box unrooted
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You can put Google play edition ROMs on but not the 4.3 as stated in the guide. The only real problem for me is that it seems to use more battery than tw roms. And you don't have all the features as your tw based ROMs on the gpe ROMs. Some tw ROMs are just as fast if not faster. Fast speeds and great battery life can't go wrong with that.
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You guys recommend a new S4, or the LG G2 ?
Thing is the G2 development is very sparse, and cases and accessories few and little for the G2. And what about resale down the road in a year or 18 months ? Which will fetch better trade in money the S4 or G2 ?
Thanks.
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S4 Updates, Flashing...

Hello,
I have been trying to figure out a few things with the S4 and read a lot of stuff but I have a few unanswered question.
I come from using NExus phones since Nexus 1. Unlock Phone, install CWM and then use it to flash roms or rooting scripts.
Now, I have S4. I am still with their STOCK on I337M (Canadian Model) and I rooted using CF-Auto-Root and ODIN.
What I don't understand, is:
- Can I flash CWM and then just use CWM and SuperSU-vx.xx.zip to root? Why Use Odin?
- Now that I am rooted, if I new SAMSUNG firmware comes along, I am assuming it will fail, I will have to unroot and then apply firmware and then root again? How do I unroot? "Full Unroot" from the option in the app just like the Nexus phones?
- S4 has a counter from what I read, but lot's of warning about bricking phone is that only active on Samsung stock? What if I flash a google stock?
- Can I just use Rom Manager Pro as I used to with Nexus devices...
if I flash CWM, is it replacing ODIN? Is odin a recovery like Odin! If anyone can point out and explain the difference between CWM , ODIN, Nexus phones and S4 it would be great...
I know that now when I go to download mode (Is that like fastboot?) it shows binary as being custom, but I don't get a yellow triangle when I boot...
Thanks for any info regarding explaining what ODIN is...
I also noticed although I have 16GB phone, 6.38GB is system! That is huge! Is that normal?
There are some nice features that I would not like to lose, so I stuck with samsung and just use NOVA home screen...
This is actually the "ATT Galaxy S4Active" forum. S4 forum will have answers to all your S4 questions.
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Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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ssss25 said:
Opps will get in trouble now.. now sure if I can move it or delete amd repost..
Thanks...
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Hi,
It seems that you have been around the houses.
The place you are looking for is HERE
Thanks.. I will do some more reading to try to find answers.. looks like my post just got moved.
Thanks
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Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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I just went through the un root because I was only using it for one thing. I ended up flashing the original ROM using Odin then doing a factory reset and cache wipe. Now waiting for the update not sure I will root until S4 is not longer updated by Samsung.
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ssss25 said:
Thanks. I found a lot of info at..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2301762
Only thing I still wonder is about updates that samsung releases. It will remove root? I guess I have to wait till chainfire has a rooting script then update.
Thx.
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Hi,
Look HERE
OTA will remove root,and the latest will lock down your bootloader.
Hi
I have AMG1... I think this is the latest one but I was able to root.. Will locking boot loader prevent rooting.. Could it be another one for at only?
Thanks
Note: yes. I did notice chainfires note.. But he doesn't say what load is the latest.. There are so many Samsung s4 models devices.. Each with different models its so confusing
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I just installed CWM on latest version of Canadian I337M AMG1... Its good so far.
Xda modder.. There are differences between i337 att and Canadian i337m.. No forum specific to the Canadian folks?
Thanks...
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[Q] my I337 s4 from att is always very hot and battery dies very quick.

So, I am on 4.2.2 MDL Software on my galaxy s4 att
It get really hot even though we are not really using it and when we do use it, it really gets very hot and battery doesn't last the whole day even with very light use.
I have already rooted it but I am wary on what steps to do:
1. Should I update?
2. Should I install Custom ROM? IF yes, Which one?
I want it close to stock as possible because my wife is used to TW and I wouldn't want her to lose all the functions that samsung s4 has to offer.
I have my own s4 on 4.3 jellybean Stock and updated from att as well and I do not encounter anyproblems other than not being able to root it.
Any help is very much appreciated.
kennyx13 said:
So, I am on 4.2.2 MDL Software on my galaxy s4 att
It get really hot even though we are not really using it and when we do use it, it really gets very hot and battery doesn't last the whole day even with very light use.
I have already rooted it but I am wary on what steps to do:
1. Should I update?
2. Should I install Custom ROM? IF yes, Which one?
I want it close to stock as possible because my wife is used to TW and I wouldn't want her to lose all the functions that samsung s4 has to offer.
I have my own s4 on 4.3 jellybean Stock and updated from att as well and I do not encounter anyproblems other than not being able to root it.
Any help is very much appreciated.
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Give her your s4 and you take her s4.
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Install custom rom
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HiTideBlastoise said:
Install custom rom
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Which Rom?
Any you like and that can be flashed
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Take one with MDL as it is free to flahs anything. goldeneye or shostock a fairly stock rom's. Don't take the update from AT&T !!!! MDOB is another close to stock ROM and you can keep all the stock stuff if you like or delete it all and read this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2314494
Check what you have running in the background. That was killing my battery on my last gs3.
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Flash GRAVITON
AT&T Samsung Galaxy SIV
Graviton Rom 1.7
Ktoonsez 01/13/2014 Kernel

Confused on rooting

First off sorry if I have missed something but I have been doing some reading but am slightly confused.
I am looking at a Verizon Note 3 on ebay to keep unlimited data since I just sold my Note 2 which was rooted and running a custom rom which is kinda a must for me. Where I am confused is I see tutorials on how to root the note 3 but I also see a petition to have verizon unlock the bootloader. When I hear locked bootloader I think no rooting and custom roms. So did verizon just recently lock the note 3 down like they did with the note 2 4.3 update? Sorry if this is a stupid question.
Basically I just want to be able to root my Note 3 but am not worried about voiding any warranties with verizon since I'm buying it on ebay or something. Feel free to post links to this answer since I'm not opposed to reading just kinda overwhelmed right now.
Thanks for answering my stupid question and have a great weekend!!!
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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ContractorDude said:
Read this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2543386
Everything you need to know
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Ok so it looks like I should be able to root it no problem. Whats big deal with the locked bootloader then?
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Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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ContractorDude said:
Only TW custom roms, no AOSP or custom kernels
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Ahhhh ok thank you for the quick response!!!
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The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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ContractorDude said:
The Custom Roms are awesome though. Still loving this phone
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Oh I don't doubt it for a second!! That's why I was confused saw plenty of custom ROMs but didn't really pay attention to tw or not. Not really an issue since I've been having crazy battery draining issues on everything I put 4.4.2 on. Haven't done my research but I'm sure it won't be long till 4.4 tw hits the note 3 anyways.
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Ya, Sprints already getting it.
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What is "locked" on the retail device is the recovery and boot partitions. They are crypto-signed and verified early in the boot sequence. Until the phone is hacked, it means it is impossible to boot a non-Samsung kernel or non-Samsung recovery. Even if you intentionally blow the Warranty flag on the phone, this behavior will not change.
So, while you can root, whatever "ROM" you want to try and use must play nice with a STOCK kernel (& ramdisk). So, no CM for example.
Also - because of "version upgrade locking", if you upgrade a stock kernel (let's say MJ7 -> MJE), you might not be able to use Nandroid restores of previous ROMs you formerly used any longer... depending on how tightly the ROM depends on kernel & ramdisk behaviors.
And one more thing - the Safestrap "psuedo-recovery" actually boots the beginning of a stock ROM (or whatever you have in the "stock slot"). One consequence of this is that you no longer have a separately bootable recovery to fix up mistakes or restore backups from. If you wedge the primary OS somehow, the consequence of that will be a loss of all data on the phone which is not backed up, and a trip to Odin to restore a pure stock firmware ... and starting all over from square 1.
(If you buy a Note 3, you might want to consider a BIG removable SD card - then you will have room for media/backups/etc that is not vulnerable to an Odin flash)
So basically, you have a limited form of rooting available.
More info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49758703&postcount=5

[Q] Custom Rom Help

Hello all, long time lurker here with a couple if questions. Not new to rooting: I've rooted an HTC Inspire, HTC One X, and finally this bad boy. This is definitely a different experience and there seems to be a lot of info that developers assume you know but even after reading everything recommended I still feel very confused. I am on the MDL baseband, rooted and flashed with the 4.3 GPE version which I think was pulled from a nexus variant. Here are my questions:
1) Are there any stock, rooted, Touch Wiz ROMs with the AT and T bloat removed?
2) What does Loki do, and if not explicitly stated that it's used in a ROM, do I install it before flashing the ROM or after?
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There's plenty, and you can flash ROMs from any S4 variant though you might need to flash an at&t kernel. Loki is our method to bypass the locked bootloader, and if you flash a ROM without it then it won't boot.
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Thanks for the reply! I can't seem to find any ROMs in the Android Development forum that are described as such.
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1.) Check out Shostock. It's built from stock source and works very well. It is pretty close to what you are looking for.
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I like iB's GoldenEye rom. Has zip to delete bloat. You can open zip and delete lines you don't want deleted. IE I delete S-Memo from script so it doesn't delete it from rom. Perfect rom for me, good battery life also. Very smooth.

[Q] Galaxy S4 Rooting Question

I managed to root my AT&T S4 successfully which is half the battle. I haven't flashed on this device yet but did a few times on my older Droid X. I am thinking of flashing GOOGLE EDITION 4.4.4 that I found on this site under ROMS. Is there like an easy process to flash roms?
Thanks
You need to tell us what firmware version you're on. Different versions have different methods to flash roms.
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Firmware
Sorry about that: I am on 4.4.2 I337.
Hope that helps
sparker781 said:
Sorry about that: I am on 4.4.2 I337.
Hope that helps
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You're on nb1 or nc1 then. Read through this. It's long but has everything you need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=53758227
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