I'm planning on trying out a few of these Roms (SS method). My issue so, I'd like to move my internal to my sdcard but I have a tiny 2 GB sdcard. I plan to buy a larger one first.
Basically, I'd like to move sdcard to phone, insert new larger sdcard, than move everything to my sdcard that doesnt need to be on my phone.I'm not really sure how to go about this. I'm playing with an app called link2sd but its not working.
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specifically what files are you wanting to move to your sd card? the standard pics, videos, backups? or are you talking about apps, app data, etc?
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specifically what files are you wanting to move to your sd card? the standard pics, videos, backups? or are you talking about apps, app data, etc?
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Well, for what I understand the Roms can take up several gbs on the phones storage possibly only allowing me to have 2 on my phone at any given time. I have the 16 GB gs4 but I only have 3 GB available. My phone has several gbs wrapped up in stuff that I'm not sure what it is, so instead of deleting stuff that I'm non sure of I figured I'd just move stuff to a sdcard. Maybe it doesn't make sense...
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The only working app out there that can link your internal to your external is called Foldermount. In in playstore. Free version will only let you mount up to max of 5 folders. paid version which is like 2 or 3 bucks lets you mount as many folder as you want making your phone think that your extrnal is its internal memory. The only issue is if you lose the sd you lose phone so think carefully what you decide to move to sd. If its phone critical leave it on phone memory.
If your just talking pictures, movies, music as well as document, crap like that you can copy to a folder on your computer and when you mount the new card then just copy it all back to sd.
definitely get a larger micro sd card. they're so affordable. a 32gb would last you forever. after you have it, move everything you know how to move to the new card. i keep my roms, backups, photos, videos and misc files on my sd card. if you want to store more than that, give it some research. as i said above, though, for sure get a larger card. its worth it.
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so I read that it has 710mb of rom for app storage, so can you not store apps on the 8 gigs (6.5)of internal mem?
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so I read that it has 710mb of rom for app storage, so can you not store apps on the 8 gigs (6.5)of internal mem?
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Currently, you cannot store apps on the 6+ gig partition of the internal memory.
However, when you think about it, the 748MB allocated as internal storage, for apps, is already more total application storage than what most people allocate for themselves when using apps2sd on a rooted phone. For example, if you read some ROM threads, you should find reference to a suggested 512MB partition on SD card for apps2sd and the likelihood of never filling it up. So, even without root and apps2sd we have more apps storage than pretty much everyone else.
Aside from plain old app storage though, I am very curious to see what developers can do with these partitions and all that internal memory once root is achieved.
Well the good thing nowadays is that alot of developers store files on your sd card also, so you save alot of your app space. I've installed every app that i wanted (I've downloaded over 60) and i have 633mb left
plus most apps don't take much space anyways, alot are under a 1mb
I just heard that the evo has 1gig of storage, which is awesome, but I hate sprint and want to convince myself that the Incredible is a better phone.
so if you have an sd, and download something, does it go to internal or sd?
and when you plug in your phone to your pc, does it show two seperate hard drives(sd and internal)?
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I just heard that the evo has 1gig of storage, which is awesome, but I hate sprint and want to convince myself that the Incredible is a better phone.
so if you have an sd, and download something, does it go to internal or sd?
and when you plug in your phone to your pc, does it show two seperate hard drives(sd and internal)?
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When you download something, by default it saves to your SD. I haven't found a setting to change that. However, you can move the files to your internal storage after you've finished downloading using Astro File Manager. The downside to all this right now is that all third party apps can only read from the SD card. So if you have music and you want to play them using a third party app, then you'll have to store them on the SD.
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When you download something, by default it saves to your SD. I haven't found a setting to change that. However, you can move the files to your internal storage after you've finished downloading using Astro File Manager. The downside to all this right now is that all third party apps can only read from the SD card. So if you have music and you want to play them using a third party app, then you'll have to store them on the SD.
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Then whats the point of having that much internal storage?
When you download something, by default it saves to your SD. I haven't found a setting to change that. However, you can move the files to your inter
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Then whats the point of having that much internal storage?
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Things change. It'll be more use later this year. While DI is the first Android set to have internal memory, it won't be the last.
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Then whats the point of having that much internal storage?
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For pictures/music/videos to be used with stock media apps. I know, it's lame as of right now. Hopefully soon more app developers will create apps that will allow the incredible to access internal storage.
I mean you read alot of people say having an sd card slot doesnt matter nowadays with android since you cant install apps to it, etc. Or can you? Can you save your photos taken with the s4 to it? What apps are available to fully utilize the sd card? If you can share how you plan on getting around any limitations.
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I mean you read alot of people say having an sd card slot doesnt matter nowadays with android since you cant install apps to it, etc. Or can you? Can you save your photos taken with the s4 to it? What apps are available to fully utilize the sd card? If you can share how you plan on getting around any limitations.
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the first time you open your camara it will tell you if you want to save pic on scard or external memory
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I mean you read alot of people say having an sd card slot doesnt matter nowadays with android since you cant install apps to it, etc. Or can you? Can you save your photos taken with the s4 to it? What apps are available to fully utilize the sd card? If you can share how you plan on getting around any limitations.
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Photos can be set to be stored on the external sdcard. I also (on my SGS2/and SGS3) have it so my nandroid backups go to the external sdcard. Downloaded files go to my external sdcard. I can also out movies/music/or whatever on my external sdcard and play them. I can also use "Root Explorer" to move anything I want from my internal sdcard and onto my external sdcard. Even with a 32Gb external sdcard and the 16Gb internal sdcard I find that I at times fill up my internal sdcard and have to move MANY files/folders from the internal to external. I haven't put ANY apps onto the external sdcard since my SGS1 and haven't had the need to ever. I have never filled the allotted app /data folder on my SGS2/SGS3 like I did on my SGS1. When I used the SGS1 and moved the apps it made them work slower and caused issues. Again never had it on my SGS2/3's. So NO need to worry about apps moving. I have over 180 apps and no issues (Including downloaded app and system apps). But having a removable sdcard for movies and music has been my best usage. As well I do A LOT of modding on my phone and it takes up a lot of room. So I transfer the files to my external for that as well.
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Thats good to know, so I dont know what those people were talking about. As if the sd card was unusable.
Same here, I have over 180 apps and have no space issues when it comes to apps. I take a lot of pictures and record a lot of videos, and that takes more space than anything. I put all data, including backups, ROMs, pictures, videos, music, etc. On the external SD card. There's a ton of space left on my internal card, so for me a 16gb model with an external SD card works great.
I store 12 blue ray movies on my 64gb microsd. Should be enough to keep me busy flying overseas.
SDCARD
Can the 64GB SDCARDs be used with the s4?
First, only guys? 2nd, I'd like to have the ability to enter a 1 character password at the android lockscreen in CyanogenMod.
Lol OK.
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I was wondering if anybody could help answer a few questions about the Sprint S4 for me.
Currently I have an HTC Evo 3D, the internal storage is so small that I have made a 4gb ext3 partition on my SD card using Link2SD just to alleviate some of this annoyance. The 32GB counting the 4GB partition is actually almost full.
First of all, is there any word on a 32GB version? I saw some forum threads a while ago about Sprint supposedly not carring the 32+GB versions, but I saw no official word, if there has been one.
And also, how does the 16GB of internal work? The first time I saw a phone with large internal memory was the original Droid RAZR. And it basically partitioned off the majority of the space like a virtual SD card. Most to all apps on it saved to here instead of the actual SD card assuming it was an actual external storage. Does the S4 do this too, or is the entire 16GB (minus obviously what the system partitions take up) used as internal?
The reason I am asking is because I have many apps and games which download anywhere from 50MB to 3 gigs of additional data, and they almost never ask you where to download it, and just use the first "external" space they find, and many are hard-coded to only use that space. Like I said, my 32GB card on my Evo 3D is practically full, I do NOT not want those apps to install that data on the internal memory and fill it up, I want that space to keep the apps installed on, while photos, music, and video, as well as that app additional data, will be on the real SD card. I am planning to get a 64GB card for the S4.
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I was wondering if anybody could help answer a few questions about the Sprint S4 for me.
Currently I have an HTC Evo 3D, the internal storage is so small that I have made a 4gb ext3 partition on my SD card using Link2SD just to alleviate some of this annoyance. The 32GB counting the 4GB partition is actually almost full.
First of all, is there any word on a 32GB version? I saw some forum threads a while ago about Sprint supposedly not carring the 32+GB versions, but I saw no official word, if there has been one.
And also, how does the 16GB of internal work? The first time I saw a phone with large internal memory was the original Droid RAZR. And it basically partitioned off the majority of the space like a virtual SD card. Most to all apps on it saved to here instead of the actual SD card assuming it was an actual external storage. Does the S4 do this too, or is the entire 16GB (minus obviously what the system partitions take up) used as internal?
The reason I am asking is because I have many apps and games which download anywhere from 50MB to 3 gigs of additional data, and they almost never ask you where to download it, and just use the first "external" space they find, and many are hard-coded to only use that space. Like I said, my 32GB card on my Evo 3D is practically full, I do NOT not want those apps to install that data on the internal memory and fill it up, I want that space to keep the apps installed on, while photos, music, and video, as well as that app additional data, will be on the real SD card. I am planning to get a 64GB card for the S4.
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The way samsung does it is actually very anoying. First thing they do is cut off 8.5 gigs of storage, thats your "internal memory" for system stuff. That's untouchable. You then have 9gigs give or take left for apps and the like which is EMULATED external storage. This emulated bit confuses android and so your real external sd card is only usable for movies and music. The only way to put apps on it would be to root your phone and use folder mount (which for some reason isn't working for me yet). So to sum it up:
16gb +ext sd card (lets say 32 gb)
8ish gb- system internal
9ish gb-apps EMULATED external
32 gb- movies, music, books/media BUT NO APPS UNLESS YOU ROOT REAL external
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHHH!</CharlieBrown>
Wow, I can not possibly think of a worse way for Samsung to handle it. The low internal memory giving me problems installing and updating apps was a major reason for wanting to upgrade. With this, it means I actually have less space for apps than my current phone, since I can't actually install to SD and the apps that download hundreds of megs to gigs of additonal data will be downlioading it to the internal instead of external.
I... honestly have no idea which phone to get now.
I know the Sprint S4 is unlocked, is there any way to use rooted tools or a custom rom to just make the memory internal and make it mount a SD as an actual SD? I am worried that unofficial roms might be lacking in features or glitchy.
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AAAAUUUUGGGHHHHH!</CharlieBrown>
Wow, I can not possibly think of a worse way for Samsung to handle it. The low internal memory giving me problems installing and updating apps was a major reason for wanting to upgrade. With this, it means I actually have less space for apps than my current phone, since I can't actually install to SD and the apps that download hundreds of megs to gigs of additonal data will be downlioading it to the internal instead of external.
I... honestly have no idea which phone to get now.
I know the Sprint S4 is unlocked, is there any way to use rooted tools or a custom rom to just make the memory internal and make it mount a SD as an actual SD? I am worried that unofficial roms might be lacking in features or glitchy.
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Well this is an issue with all honeycomb plus android phones. Google is trying to phase out the external sd card while increasing the internal memory. Well that's all good and fine EXCEPT that we are right in the middle of the phase out process where the sd cards are too small for that. 2-3 years from now googles plan will work, but samsung has to be on board for that to happen. For now the only thing you can do is use folder mount or wait for ext2intSD script. It will swap it so your external sdcard works as your internal and vice versa. However, we will have to wait for that to be released.
I don't get what phasing out the SD slot has to do with emulating the external SD storage when all apps can work on internal storage anyway.
What is folder-mount? And I tried link2sd on my evo 3d and its kinda problematic, I wanted to get AWAY from these problems by upgrading.
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I don't get what phasing out the SD slot has to do with emulating the external SD storage when all apps can work on internal storage anyway.
What is folder-mount? And I tried link2sd on my evo 3d and its kinda problematic, I wanted to get AWAY from these problems by upgrading.
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The reason why is that android its self, the code that google supplies, has to create partitions in order for it to work with only one internal sdcard so that the average user does not corrupt the system somehow. The emulated external storage is what google expects you to use so that you can't mess up. However, samsung just adds in an sdcard without changing anything which means its not set up correctly. This is a problem with all new sd card phones and finally think of folder mount as a better link2sd
But aren't the system partition and the internal storage partition separate partitions? I don't understand why the rest of the memory outside of the system partition needs to be an emulated external instead of just being an internal storage partition like on phones that do not have a large amount of internal memory.
Also, why do we have to link folders or use link2sd scripts and other such work-arounds? Can't we re-partition the internal memory with a custom recovery or through the bootloader?
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not work brother
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.... what? I have no idea what that means.
So, can the phone be repartitioned if you have root access? And is only the Sprint version partitioned like this, or all of them?
I been moving large apps like Gameloft games to the SD card but I see that not much has changed to my internal storage. I think it only moves the app but not the data, can anyone confirm this?
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I been moving large apps like Gameloft games to the SD card but I see that not much has changed to my internal storage. I think it only moves the app but not the data, can anyone confirm this?
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yes, only apps
You can use Link2Sd if your phone is rooted to move App Data to the external SD card.
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You can use Link2Sd if your phone is rooted to move App Data to the external SD card.
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idk but link2sd usually fu** up device i used it and had to reset as phone wudnt install apps due to insufficient storage error
maybe use foldermount i knw its free version gives only 3 links but what to do try buying premium it only costs 1.99 dollars after all u payed a huge sum for the phone !!!!!
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idk but link2sd usually fu** up device i used it and had to reset as phone wudnt install apps due to insufficient storage error
maybe use foldermount i knw its free version gives only 3 links but what to do try buying premium it only costs 1.99 dollars after all u payed a huge sum for the phone !!!!!
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Sorry i meant foldermount. LOL I mixed up the 2 apps.
I actually bought the premium version about 4 weeks ago and it's worth it for the extra links imo.
I've used foldermount to put my data for Real Racing 3 onto my sd
So just moving the app itself and not the data, is still pretty much useless then? S4 will still have internal storage problems.
Yes but the way I see it, I throw all my media files (photos and videos), backups (titanium and twrp) on the external SD card. So that frees up space on the internal SD just for games alone. And because of my scepticism with external SD cards, i tend to back it up both on the cloud and computer hard drive. So although this may not be the answer you are looking for, it's the only way besides apps like folder mount!
Internal storage is a constant struggle. Now that it's rooted, is there any way to make the tablet view the external storage and internal storage the same?
You could have always moved apps to the external card - just go to Settings->App Manager->SD Card, pick the app to move and click the "Move" button. There is also a way to make it so that you can move ANY app to external SD card (search for it) - or I can post a link later.
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Thanks for your input. It would allow some apps to be moved, but def. not most of them. I have done a search to find what you're referring to. If you get a chance to link to it, that'd be great!
Thanks.
There are many tutorials on how to do this - here is the first one that came up in a Google search. Just be careful - this will allow you to move ANY app to SD - even apps that shouldn't be moved! Also, if you use a widget for an app, you shouldn't move those apps either as it will break the widgets.
http://techgage.com/article/moving_your_non-movable_android_apps_to_an_sd_card/
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Folder mount is one which works on all android based rooted devices (from 2.x android to 6.0)
Hi all! I am having the same issue. I bought my children these for Christmas, and I was shocked after we installed a couple apps and ran out of space! I put in a large uSD in one of them, and I could not move 90% of the apps over to it! Again, I was shocked.
I am SO glad I found this thread. So can anyone elaborate, like using Folder Mount for example. It sounds like I MUST root their devices in order to ever achieve moving apps to the uSD? Are there any other non-root alternatives, etc?
Thanks so much!
I used a free app from the store called Apps2sd. You have to create a second partition on the sd card, but then you can move/link all apps and associatec data to the sd card. One big thing to keep in mind is sd access times... depending on your sd card, it might be several orders of magnitude slower than the internal memory. I bought a UHS3 sd card and it offer acceptable performance. Hope that helps.