[Q] What features do you lose if you don't use S-Home launcher? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm new to the Galaxy Note 3 and S-Pen. What features do you lose if you don't use S-Home launcher?

Neo3D said:
I'm new to the Galaxy Note 3 and S-Pen. What features do you lose if you don't use S-Home launcher?
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as written in different threads, you don't loose and S-Pen functionality if you move from standard launcher to any other.

None. I use Nova Launcher. You only lose the features if you root and install another ROM that doesn't have the Samsung apps/features.
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YungMage said:
None. I use Nova Launcher. You only lose the features if you root and install another ROM that doesn't have the Samsung apps/features.
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Thanks, what about the Samsung Calendar widget?

Neo3D said:
Thanks, what about the Samsung Calendar widget?
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Same thing everything works same with or without stock Launcher as long as you remain unrooted.

YungMage said:
Same thing everything works same with or without stock Launcher as long as you remain unrooted.
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If we root but keep the stock ROM, will everything still work as well? I don't really need a custom ROM but need to use Titanium Backup to copy my Smurfs game over to my new phone. I spent almost two years playing Smurfs and I'm really far on it.

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If we root but keep the stock ROM, will everything still work as well? I don't really need a custom ROM but need to use Titanium Backup to copy my Smurfs game over to my new phone. I spent almost two years playing Smurfs and I'm really far on it.
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Try Helium instead of TB, it's non-root.
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Neo3D said:
If we root but keep the stock ROM, will everything still work as well? I don't really need a custom ROM but need to use Titanium Backup to copy my Smurfs game over to my new phone. I spent almost two years playing Smurfs and I'm really far on it.
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Idk depends on who created the stock ROM and what system files/apps are left intact.

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Thanks, what about the Samsung Calendar widget?
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Most of samsung widgets does not work in other launchers. So S planner widgets also wont be working.

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If we root but keep the stock ROM, will everything still work as well? I don't really need a custom ROM but need to use Titanium Backup to copy my Smurfs game over to my new phone. I spent almost two years playing Smurfs and I'm really far on it.
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If you have taken back up of smurf game app folder under internal sdcard/android/ data+obb folders from your previous Android device you can copy it to your new device. It should work from your last status until unless the newly installed smurf creates new folder structure.
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muhtesem insan said:
Most of samsung widgets does not work in other launchers. So S planner widgets also wont be working.
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Then why do I have the S Planner widget on my homescreen in Apex?
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ShadowLea said:
Then why do I have the S Planner widget on my homescreen in Apex?
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You can't but you can have Google calendar widget.
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You lose the swipe up gesture to get the My Magazine function with an alternate launcher, don't you?

ogretech said:
You lose the swipe up gesture to get the My Magazine function with an alternate launcher, don't you?
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Yea but you can just put app on your home screen or better yet dl Flipboard.
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With Nova, can you still use the gestures to reduce the screen size for one-handed operation? I could not seem to do that.

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Change app drawer in stock touchwhiz..possible ??

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I love samsung nature touchwhiz The one thing i do not like in touchwhiz is app drawer. So it possible to replace only app drawer ?? With any other.
Nishu_gamer said:
Hi
I love samsung nature touchwhiz The one thing i do not like in touchwhiz is app drawer. So it possible to replace only app drawer ?? With any other.
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You will have to use an alternate launcher.
Nishu_gamer said:
Hi
I love samsung nature touchwhiz The one thing i do not like in touchwhiz is app drawer. So it possible to replace only app drawer ?? With any other.
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I suggest you use nova launcher, not the paid version since you just want to replace the app drawer. There is a free version as well. You can still use the remaining features of touch wiz without any issues. I use nova launcher and it works without any issues with touch wiz. Cheers!
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zoot1 said:
You will have to use an alternate launcher.
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yuvas said:
I suggest you use nova launcher, not the paid version since you just want to replace the app drawer. There is a free version as well. You can still use the remaining features of touch wiz without any issues. I use nova launcher and it works without any issues with touch wiz. Cheers!
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I love the home-screen of touchwhiz more then apex/nova.... SO i dont want to change launcher..
If app drawer replacement not possible then at least Samsung should give 2 options like apex/nova
1. Arrange numbers of colums and Rows according to you
2. Must have Stop full transparency option in app drawers

Again only 4 columns home screen

OMG I was shocked to see the Note 3, just like the Note 2, only has a 4x5 grid on the homescreen. What I don't understand is how Samsung can develop a device with a huge screen, and then totally forget that they can make use of the extra room to place more icons. Even the original Note had 5 columns in the home screen by default (I owned the original Note, the Note 2 and now the Note 3).
I wanted to fix this using something like Assassin tools just like I did when I got my Note 2 a few months ago. Then I read about the Knox warranty void 0x1 on the Note 3. I don't want to void my warranty, although I find it completely rediculous that a user can loose warranty cause he wants to install another (modified) operating system to his device. Suppose Microsoft forbid me to install Linux on my PC!
But okay, we have to deal with it and we probably can't fix this problem (making Samsung change it's strategy) easily. So now it's becoming a challange to solve the wish for a more customizable home screen. How can we do that without root? Yes you could use a custom launcher, but I really like the Touchwiz launcher and it's widgets. Does anybody have ideas how to create a customizable grid on the Touchwiz homescreen to place icons and widgets, without the need to get the phone rooted?
Also: why can't we set the dpi per app? Same goes here, we have such nice devices with big screens, I'd love to have control over the per app dpi in Touchwiz! Is that possible without root? Anybody have a solution for that?
Or do I have to issue a ticket to the Samsung development team and clearify my wishes? And if so, will they listen?
I don't understand how you could be shocked by it, You must of already known this before buying the phone? the Samsung launcher had always been the same just like the xperia launcher etc
As for customising it if you don't want to root your phone right now when it is possible, im afraid you will have to wait it out. Try some other launchers at the moment besides I'm pretty sure most of the widgets work on different launchers
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misterashman said:
I don't understand how you could be shocked by it, You must of already known this before buying the phone?
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This ^^^^
misterashman said:
I don't understand how you could be shocked by it, You must of already known this before buying the phone? the Samsung launcher had always been the same just like the xperia launcher etc
As for customising it if you don't want to root your phone right now when it is possible, im afraid you will have to wait it out. Try some other launchers at the moment besides I'm pretty sure most of the widgets work on different launchers
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Ok I was not shocked in that kind of way (I love the Note series enough to keep buying each increment), but I can imagine that I'm not the only user with such a big screen who wished there was more room to place icons and use apps optimized for big screens. So the shock is that apparentely I am the only one complaining about this, or Samsung doesn't listen....
Luycks said:
Ok I was not shocked in that kind of way (I love the Note series enough to keep buying each increment), but I can imagine that I'm not the only user with such a big screen who wished there was more room to place icons and use apps optimized for big screens. So the shock is that apparentely I am the only one complaining about this, or Samsung doesn't listen....
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Fair enough that's just the Samsung launcher though, it's not the "Note3 launcher" I suggest installing nova launcher or apex and replicating the touchwiz look with themes or icon packs for now, just be patient it was only released a few days a go ^^
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misterashman said:
Fair enough that's just the Samsung launcher though, it's not the "Note3 launcher" I suggest installing nova launcher or apex and replicating the touchwiz look with themes or icon packs for now, just be patient it was only released a few days a go ^^
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Okay, I guess you're right... ThanQ!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=46021581#post46021581
to deal with the home screen issue I plan on throwing Nova pro on there shortly after i get mine. This is my first Note so i'll prob hold off for a week or two before i install Nova. I saw somewhere that a few widgets didn't work but the S pen and air command worked fine
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Luycks said:
OMG I was shocked to see the Note 3, just like the Note 2, only has a 4x5 grid on the homescreen. ....
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Mate, you are new on this board. That´s ok - but for the future: Please double check if your concern hasn´t been discussed before (and believe me: in most cases it HAS been discussed).
My thread is just a few days old. -->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457197
EDIT: I just saw that you aren´t that new here - you just have 8 posts in 6 years^^
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brooon said:
Mate, you are new on this board. That´s ok - but for the future: Please double check if your concern hasn´t been discussed before (and believe me: in most cases it HAS been discussed).
My thread is just a few days old. -->http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457197
EDIT: I just saw that you aren´t that new here - you just have 8 posts in 6 years^^
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Mate, I tried searching, but your thread didn't show up. Sorry... And yes, I'm a bad poster, I have a lot of knowledge from reading all threads and keep up with the development, but I'm always afraid to give an advise (we know there were brick risks, now KNOX..). But I really appreciate all the good work, knowledge and skills here. Again sorry!
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/Nova Launcher
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durtoffmysboulda said:
to deal with the home screen issue I plan on throwing Nova pro on there shortly after i get mine. This is my first Note so i'll prob hold off for a week or two before i install Nova. I saw somewhere that a few widgets didn't work but the S pen and air command worked fine
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Ok I'll try Nova (just installed Apex today, because I bought it earlier, but I''l give this one a look, since it seems like Touchwiz is not mod-dable without braking warranty). Thanx!!
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Okay! ThanQ for your suggestion!
Luycks said:
Mate, I tried searching, but your thread didn't show up. Sorry...
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Hehe, no problem at all!! To be honest: much more people should open up such a thread, making Samsung realize that it is necessary to work on this.
So: lets keep both (and more) threads (of this kind) up!
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Samsung just says "if you want more options, install another launcher. We're not stopping you."
That's the point of Android. Don't like it, change it.
I got rid of the Stock launcher within the first 30 minutes of purchasing my first Android phone (S3.) Haven't left Apex Pro since.
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Hehe, no problem at all!! To be honest: much more people should open up such a thread, making Samsung realize that it is necessary to work on this.
So: lets keep both (and more) threads (of this kind) up!
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Agreed!!!!
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Okay! ThanQ for your suggestion!
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Let me know what you think. I really like it.
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3vo3d said:
Let me know what you think. I really like it.
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Yeah it works but I can only make shortcuts to apps, not to (for example) browser bookmarks. Also missing the icon labels. But indeed it's a solution and I like the idea. I'll search for better widget and share when found. Thanx!
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5x4 Stock TouchWiz Launcher?

The xposed module isn't working for me. Anyone get a 5x4 STOCK launcher working?
Try this, use odexed version, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462912
njfoses said:
Try this, use odexed version, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2462912
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Ah. Well thank you, but that failed gloriously. Replaced the stock launcher with root explorer, changed to original's permissions. still resulted in a continuous force close cycle. thank god this phone comes with a second launcher (easy mode) that i could switch to to restore the old launcher apk.
Any luck getting this working? I'm not
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brennanb said:
Any luck getting this working? I'm not
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Nope. Still looking around.
TallgeeseIV said:
Nope. Still looking around.
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this is something i really would like as well. i used Nova to get it for a few days but i went back to stock because i dont want to run another launcher.
hoping someone figures it out.
thanks for posting
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i went back to Nova and honestly i like the notification on app icon and i only lost Accuweather widget. i would go back but have owned Apex for a long time but Nova just seems easier and imports my TW settings
fletch33 said:
i went back to Nova and honestly i like the notification on app icon and i only lost Accuweather widget. i would go back but have owned Apex for a long time but Nova just seems easier and imports my TW settings
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How do you import the settings?. I'm using Nova too
bossei said:
How do you import the settings?. I'm using Nova too
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i had setup all my widgets and app in folders etc... in TW and when i launched Nova it asked if i waned to import settings i choose yes and then i had the option to choose TW and so all my apps and folders were there. some of the widgets may not populate but being root all mine did except accuweather
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i had setup all my widgets and app in folders etc... in TW and when i launched Nova it asked if i waned to import settings i choose yes and then i had the option to choose TW and so all my apps and folders were there. some of the widgets may not populate but being root all mine did except accuweather
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Damn I didn't know your could do that,
Haha. I'm glad you gyys found a decent temporary solution and I may try it, but let's try to get back on topic: 5x4 STOCK launcher... where is it...

Faster TouchWiz?

So is there any improvement in the latest touchwiz? Any opinion from S5 users? And maybe for those who had the chance to see a Note 4 from close ?
Im in S3 and I dont like the touchwiz laggy and problematic as hell. I have a fear to buy samsung device again. I am thinking of the note 4 just because of the feature to capture images and transform them in editable text.
But im worried about the touchwiz..
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Have you considered trying a different launcher? Touchwiz is very resource-intensive, but many of the third-party launchers are very quick. I'm using Google Now launcher on my Note 2, and it still flies. It will make your S3 much faster, anyway.
You could do the same thing with the Note 4, but you'd likely lose some of the S-Pen functionality.
gtalum said:
Have you considered trying a different launcher? Touchwiz is very resource-intensive, but many of the third-party launchers are very quick. I'm using Google Now launcher on my Note 2, and it still flies. It will make your S3 much faster, anyway.
You could do the same thing with the Note 4, but you'd likely lose some of the S-Pen functionality.
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Im using nova launcher.. but with touchwiz I mean also the samsung pre installed apps like gallery,contacts etc..
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Ahh, gotcha. Unless you're married to them for some reason, you should try replacement apps in the Play store.
gtalum said:
Ahh, gotcha. Unless you're married to them for some reason, you should try replacement apps in the Play store.
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Can you change message/phone app?
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patriotaki said:
Can you change message/phone app?
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message yes..phone no
sevomemo said:
message yes..phone no
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Is there any good message app you can recommend? I also hate that I must delete old message to have space for new ones...
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patriotaki said:
Is there any good message app you can recommend? I also hate that I must delete old message to have space for new ones...
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just uninstall it with titanium backup (if you have root)..hangouts is the most used replacement(it's the default messge app on nexus)
sevomemo said:
just uninstall it with titanium backup (if you have root)..hangouts is the most used replacement(it's the default messge app on nexus)
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Yea I have root but I dont like hangouts too much connection with google..I dont want to mix messages with google plus account or maybe they save messages on cloud..
Many connections with google are not so good they keep track of everyone haha
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patriotaki said:
Yea I have root but I dont like hangouts too much connection with google..I dont want to mix messages with google plus account or maybe they save messages on cloud..
Many connections with google are not so good they keep track of everyone haha
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honestly i don't know message replacement apps other than hangouts..but i did a quick search for you and i found those
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...t-sms-text-messaging-apps-for-android-1232990
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Best-text-messaging-SMS-replacement-apps-for-Android_id59083
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honestly i don't know message replacement apps other than hangouts..but i did a quick search for you and i found those
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...t-sms-text-messaging-apps-for-android-1232990
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Best-text-messaging-SMS-replacement-apps-for-Android_id59083
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A big thanks from me to you
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sevomemo said:
message yes..phone no
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True. I was thinking of dialer replacements, but I guess you're still stuck with the same phone app. There are many messaging replacements, though I actually really like hangouts.
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Is there any good message app you can recommend? I also hate that I must delete old message to have space for new ones...
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8sms from the store,freezing stock message app. About dialer, give a try to exdialer, on the store too, quick ans with nice themes. :good:
Fighting with myself over TouchWiz
I've been using alternate launchers for a long time. Was on Go Launcher for most time, but relatively recently I've moved to Noval Launcher, as it has caught up with Go Launcher features, and it seems that Go was a bit buggy in more recent releases.
All that being said, I am presuming at this point that I may want to actually utilize some of the features that TW offers, and won't be ther on other launchers. On the other hand, I too fear lag/performance issues, and loss of features in Nova that I am so accustomed to.
Of course, I suppose I need to get the phone in my hands first before worrying about TW.
You can replace the dialer by simply installing another one from the store. But when someone calls you, you will be faced with a lag followed by a black screen with status bar at top and then BOOM! The laggy samsung phone app (Don't worry your phone didn't blow up
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About the improved TW on S5, I have a S3 phone rooted with QS ROM installed and Boeffla 6.1 beta4 linaro installed and a S5 transformation pack supported by QS.
I think finally Samsh*t thought about locking the launcher, phone app in memory. That makes TW a bit faster. Opening the phone app now is faster and the lag is gone. Also switching to contacts from the phone app is lagless. But there are still some micro lags in launching an app.
Hope that I helped you with that.
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gtalum said:
Have you considered trying a different launcher? Touchwiz is very resource-intensive, but many of the third-party launchers are very quick. I'm using Google Now launcher on my Note 2, and it still flies. It will make your S3 much faster, anyway.
You could do the same thing with the Note 4, but you'd likely lose some of the S-Pen functionality.
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Problem with Google launcher is that annoying bar at the top of each screen. Cannot remove it. Pain in the butt
@home said:
Problem with Google launcher is that annoying bar at the top of each screen. Cannot remove it. Pain in the butt
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I like the search bar, but it can be removed with the GELS xposed module.
I am new to android- If I use a new launcher on the note 4 (Nova or Google Now) would I lose functionality of the S Pen or the fingerprint scanner? Thanks
Stigga said:
I am new to android- If I use a new launcher on the note 4 (Nova or Google Now) would I lose functionality of the S Pen or the fingerprint scanner? Thanks
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Nope
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Nope
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Thanks! Does using a new launcher reduce some of the TW bloat/memory usage or does it go over TW and just mask it?

[Q] Touchwiz OR Another Launcher?

Had my Note 4 for a week now & have been using Nova all the time & wondered what are you using Stock Or 3rd party?
So join in let us all know what your using & why & vote too.
I prefer stock
May be because i think it clear and app drawer can easily edited
I went back to stock and enabled ART. My phones is more smooth.
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I went back to stock and enabled ART. My phones is more smooth.
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You can enable ART and run Nova Launcher and it'll be smoother.
Very limited customization with touchwiz, so I am using Nova Launcher.
The only thing I missed is the S Calendar widget
Nova.
Dont miss anything in TW. Used TW only a day or too. Dont like the look and the controls.
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jpbl1976 said:
You can enable ART and run Nova Launcher and itll be smoother.
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Hi...where do I find ART?
jpbl1976 said:
You can enable ART and run Nova Launcher and it'll be smoother.
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Ya I was using NOVA with ART but it would suddenly kept crashing and redrawing for me. So I went back to TW its super smooth and no hiccups.
What is art?
MSK1 said:
What is art?
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If i am not mistaken, new protocol of android run time
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iznee said:
If i am not mistaken, new protocol of android run time
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Still doesn't mean anything to me. ...
Nova hands down.
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MSK1 said:
Still doesn't mean anything to me. ...
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Something that makes your phonne faster. But many complaints otherwise
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Touchwiz. Waiting for lollipop.
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Still doesn't mean anything to me. ...
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Android apps are installed in raw format. Dalvik engine has to cook app every time we run it. ART (Android RunTime) on the other hand bakes app permanently, henceforth they run faster.
I use the Google Now launcher. Simple, but since I use Google Now quite a bit, i just prefer it.

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