Just received my AT&T note 3... first thing I noticed right away, before even comparing it to my I9500 S4, is how terrible the speakers sounded! I then whipped out my S4 and sure enough the speakers are actually WORSE on the Note 3 than on the S4... this is really disappointing!! Even my Note 2 had better speakers than the S4 so to hear this note 3 with even worse speakers than S4 is just sickening...
Cool story bro.
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JoJo2211 said:
Just received my AT&T note 3... first thing I noticed right away, before even comparing it to my I9500 S4, is how terrible the speakers sounded! I then whipped out my S4 and sure enough the speakers are actually WORSE on the Note 3 than on the S4... this is really disappointing!! Even my Note 2 had better speakers than the S4 so to hear this note 3 with even worse speakers than S4 is just sickening...
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This has been pretty much brought up by everyone. I agree, very disappointing, and yes I do use the speakers often. I travel a lot for work and will use the phone in the bathroom while showering/getting ready, speakerphone for con calls, etc.
Mine sounds perfectly fine. You got a special edition that has more than one speaker?
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Mine sounds perfectly fine. You got a special edition that has more than one speaker?
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If it came with dual speakers it would sound better, I think.
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If it came with dual speakers it would sound better, I think.
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Touche.
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My speakerphone distorts on any volume 75% or higher. I will be exchanging my phone at AT&T as soon as they get a black one in stock which is on its way to the store.
I am hoping the replacement resolves the distortion/crackling sound.
Daniel
Does anyone actually purchase a cell phone for the audiophilia of the onboard speakers?
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Does anyone actually purchase a cell phone for the audiophilia of the onboard speakers?
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No but it SHOULD be better than the PREVIOUS version of the phone it is replacing. Right?
If it weren't for notifications and ringtones, I wouldn't even know my phone HAD an external speaker... And you can EQ the speaker to sound better (or worse, whichever you prefer).
i do wish it had a better speaker. mine, too, distorts over 75%. i use the phone speaker and it seems silly that a flagship device not spring for a little better speaker.
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Well, I do purchase phones to talk on, and I often use the speakerphone to talk. So yeah, speaker quality is non-trivial to me. But with that said, at least mine is at least as good or better than the Note 1 that it replaced. Not great, or even good, but passable as long as I'm not trying to understand what's on the other end while in a loud place. But it would be nice to have a loud, clear speaker, for once, that was usable in more situations.
Man I can't STRESS this enought but these speakers a JOKE. I just got a message on my Note 3 and it sounded like it came from a TIN CAN. My S4 makes a more manlier sound than this JOKE of a speaker. I love the phone though, just wish they IMPROVED on the speaker from the LAST generation of the note line (note 2).
Speaker rating:
Note 2 > Note 1 > S4 > S3 > Note 3
Note 3 sux THAT much.
Since I use my phone for business use, including as a speaker phone in a conference with other coworkers, a phone with a bad speaker is a no go for me. Looks like I will need to pass on the Note 3 and keep using the Note II.
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This has been discussed (to death) in the international forum. The N3's speaker is just as loud as the N2's and SGS4's. Those other two phones, especially the N2, do have more detail.
Here's my N2 taping a video playing playing on my N3 and vice versa. It's the same TV show (Modern Family) being played back on my cable company's video app minutes apart. Both phones are at max volume. The N3's flat on its back on a desk and the N2 is propped up in a Seidio kickstand case because it can't lie flat on its back without hobbling its audio. The recording distance is the same.
N2 recording N3
N3 recording N2
Speakerphone loudness test
From GSMArena...
A loudspeaker that is nice and... well, loud, is a nice asset for your mobile. Whether it's hearing the other person on the speakerphone or your phone ringing from the other room, or even playing music on your get-together's, a loud speaker is definitely something that's nice to have. And while the quality of the loudspeaker sound is difficult to measure and is for the most part a subjective matter, we can effectively measure how loud it is. For this, we use a digital noise/loudness meter which measures the peak loudness of the phones and tablets we review, in decibels (dB). We do our tests in a soundproof studio taking measurements with the handset loudspeaker facing the loudness meter at a distance of exactly 1 m. For each test we make several consecutive measurements - we usually disregard the highest readings and take the lowest of the maximum values, as that's least likely to have been misread. We test three different types of audio samples for three different scenarios:
A phone ringing. For the first part of the test we use a ringtone which resembles the ringing of an old rotary phone, because it seems that most phones do well when we use it.
Pink noise. Next we try a sample of pink noise. Our readings with it are pretty indicative on how well the handset loudspeaker can play most music.
Human voice, male. This is an important test, since if you tend the use the loudspeaker for speakerphone purposes, loudness is really important, regardless of whether you are in the conference room or in your car.
Once we have the results in db for all three sound samples, we sum them up and use a in-house developed formula to produce a qualitative description of the loudness levels: Below Average, Average, Good, Very Good and Excellent. As many of our results are separated by a difference of only a few decibels, it is important to keep in mind that the decibel is a logarithmic unit, which means that a reading of +3dB represents roughly two times the power. We'd like to reiterate again that this test is not about the quality of the sound produced by the loudspeaker. A mild, relatively deep-sounding loudspeaker that soothes the ear won't do well in this test. Instead, what we are after is pure peak loudness - it's our hunt for the loudest phone, ever.
And here are the results. What’s ironic is the N3 is better than most newer smartphones and the best selling smartphone in the world, the iP5/s.
And the editorial...
Note 3
We put the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 through our loudspeaker test and were pleased with the results. It's extremely loud and even managed to slightly top the HTC One's dual front speakers. While the One produces deeper sound the Galaxy Note 3 is louder.
Note II
We also ran our traditional loudspeaker test on the Note II. It scored a good all-round mark, meaning more often than not you'll hear it, save for the noisiest environments.
SGS4
It's extremely loud and even managed to slightly top the HTC One's dual front speakers. While the One produces deeper sound the Galaxy S4 is louder.Conclusion?
Objectively, and without doubt, raw output wise the N3's external speaker is equal to the N2 and SGS4's. Subjectively, and with great debate, the quality of that sound isn't as good as the N2 and SGS4's.
Hmm, this is weird, because I had my Note 2 all kinds of tweaked out, and though it was louder with aftermarket kernel and mods, I definitely hear more clarity in the Note 3 speaker... Did they change sound card manufacturers?
No complaints from me...
The headphone output is DEF improved over the Note 2...
OK, please take this conversation to the sticky thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466099
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As usual
i presume NoteII use the same variant of Wolfson seen in SGSIII
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As usual
i presume NoteII use the same variant of Wolfson seen in SGSIII
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It better and if memory serves me right, the Yamaha in the Note I sounded better than the one in the GS2, because the Note was larger. Let's hope for Wolfson with even better sound than the GS3, due to more room in the Note II.
Thank You for making this thread
Edit: Yes. I've just received confirmation from an anonymous source, that it has a WM1811
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Can't wait!
Cool!
Sound Quality should be quiet decent with Wolfson WM1811.
https://twitter.com/supercurio/status/242625984879280128
Just pre-ordered my Note 2, will post impressions on SQ when it arrives, as per usual
Hoping to get some time with it before retail release too, but don't know how that will pan out.
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Just pre-ordered my Note 2, will post impressions on SQ when it arrives, as per usual
Hoping to get some time with it before retail release too, but don't know how that will pan out.
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As an iPhone 4S owner that listens thru high end iems i'm really looking forward to your impressiones. Especially now that iPhone 5 has turned out to be a slight step back over 4/4S. It might be time for switching...
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii-review-824p8.php
"Audio output is perfectly clean, but on the quiet side
The Samsung Galaxy Note II obviously shares many of its music playback-related internals with the Galaxy S III as it managed to aced our audio quality test in a similar manner to its more compact sibling.
The only average volume levels aside, the Galaxy Note II results came out perfect in the first part of our test. When connected to an active external amplifier, the phablet produces excellently clean output with no weak points whatsoever.
Even more impressively, stereo crosstalk is the only thing to get damaged when we plugged in a pair of headphones. On that occasion the Note II produced one of the cleanest outputs we have seen from a mobile device and that includes the recently tested Apple iPhone 5."
The volume levels are worrying. I figure a large device like this with all it's juice should be able to drive most off the shelf earphones well.
I have the S3 and it is ok, but still the 4S beats it for music playback. And still no Voodoo for the S3.
In any event I've ordered the Note and I suppose if it is not what I hope for it will be easy to sell quickly.
got mine today
an improvement in sound quality compared with the Note 1 but not very impressed with maximum loudness with earphones (Monster Turbine Coppers)
The Loudspeaker is a massive improvement and is nearly as loud as my macbook pro 15!!
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got mine today
an improvement in sound quality compared with the Note 1 but not very impressed with maximum loudness with earphones (Monster Turbine Coppers)
The Loudspeaker is a massive improvement and is nearly as loud as my macbook pro 15!!
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That's why we need VooDoo... Hope Supercurio will do that...
@gsmarena REVIEW OF THE GALAXY NOTE II
Audio output is perfectly clean, but on the quiet side
The Samsung Galaxy Note II obviously shares many of its music playback-related internals with the Galaxy S III as it managed to aced our audio quality test in a similar manner to its more compact sibling.
The only average volume levels aside, the Galaxy Note II results came out perfect in the first part of our test. When connected to an active external amplifier, the phablet produces excellently clean output with no weak points whatsoever.
Even more impressively, stereo crosstalk is the only thing to get damaged when we plugged in a pair of headphones. On that occasion the Note II produced one of the cleanest outputs we have seen from a mobile device and that includes the recently tested Apple iPhone 5. The higher volume levels of iOS flagship would probably still make it a slightly better option for audiophiles, though.
ama3654 said:
@gsmarena REVIEW OF THE GALAXY NOTE II
Audio output is perfectly clean, but on the quiet side
The Samsung Galaxy Note II obviously shares many of its music playback-related internals with the Galaxy S III as it managed to aced our audio quality test in a similar manner to its more compact sibling.
The only average volume levels aside, the Galaxy Note II results came out perfect in the first part of our test. When connected to an active external amplifier, the phablet produces excellently clean output with no weak points whatsoever.
Even more impressively, stereo crosstalk is the only thing to get damaged when we plugged in a pair of headphones. On that occasion the Note II produced one of the cleanest outputs we have seen from a mobile device and that includes the recently tested Apple iPhone 5. The higher volume levels of iOS flagship would probably still make it a slightly better option for audiophiles, though.
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Tried one in store yesterday. The audio thru my Westone UM3x was quite decent but i could not assess the output power properly since i don't know the intrinsic loudness of the preloaded tune.
The usual Android background hiss was there and switching back and forth with an S3 running ICS it had the same level. Thus that rumours about Jelly Bean improving the audio engine have not turned out to be fulfilled for the moment.
Overall i'd rate is a 3.5-4 star headphone out (Out of 5) depending on the output power. Still not on par with the iPhone 4/4S (which is the benchmark for handset headphone outs) but it's an step in the right direction. Linearity was pretty damn good
It's early days with my note 2 but I have power-amp installed & so far I'm finding the S3 sounds better, maybe the Note 2 DAC needs running a bit.
Hopefully then It'll be just as good
The FM radio still has the horrid back ground hiss & buzz that is present on the S3. This is a little disappointing.
Got mine yesterday, sound quality is good but low which is absolutely not to my liking.
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Got mine yesterday, sound quality is good but low which is absolutely not to my liking.
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It would help to assess the output power if users quote the headphones they are using. In order to discern which sensivity & impedance are no gos with that handset.
Remember that the UK and European Union have laws that limit the headphone volume (Volume Limit Cap) in music players and mobile phones.. That is why the headphone volume of these EU notes are quieter than the US phones.
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Remember that the UK and European Union have laws that limit the headphone volume (Volume Limit Cap) in music players and mobile phones.. That is why the headphone volume of these EU notes are quieter than the US phones.
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On my sansa clip (R.I.P ) it was possible to change it in the settings.
Can it be done here to?
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On my sansa clip (R.I.P ) it was possible to change it in the settings.
Can it be done here to?
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Is anybody using balanced armature iems experiencing low sound pressure levels ?
As for UE regulations it seems that they do not apply to Apple. iPhone 4S can go really really loud. And my old iPhone 3GS cpuld as well.
Why is it Samsung caps the headphone out and Apple does not ?
I might make a move for the Galaxy S5 when the GPE is out, but I have a query to the current users, how is the call quality on the S5? I have read GSMA's review and they mentioned that it's 4 dB lower than on the S4, 4 dB is a lot, but is the earpiece volume that low? On a noisy street do you guys able to hear the caller? Or you have move to a quieter place to be able to hear? And what about speakerphone, I have read that when you enable speakerphone the sound become muddled, and both party can't make out each other!
This query is specifically for people who have to deal with plethora of crowds on street, where it's noisy almost always, not particularly for people who talks under a calm and silent environment.
I am Moto X user at the moment and call quality is brilliant on this one, and I am not expecting the same from S5, but it hurts to see that it's actually been downgraded from S4!
Thanks in advance.
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4 dB is a lot, but is the earpiece volume that low? On a noisy street do you guys able to hear the caller? Or you have move to a quieter place to be able to hear? And what about speakerphone, I have read that when you enable speakerphone the sound become muddled, and both party can't make out each other!
This query is specifically for people who have to deal with plethora of crowds on street, where it's noisy almost always, not particularly for people who talks under a calm and silent environment.
I am Moto X user at the moment and call quality is brilliant on this one, and I am not expecting the same from S5, but it hurts to see that it's actually been downgraded from S4!
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4 db is not a lot. 3 db is the smallest change that most people can detect. For comparison, if you were to stand 4 feet away from a person that you are talking to instead of 2 feet, that would probably be a 6 db difference. It's not a linear scale and you need a ten fold reduction in power to perceive a 50% decrease in volume (10 db).
The earpiece volume on the S5 is not at all low by any reasonable standard. And even if you disageed, there are readily available mods to increase the volume. Motorola is known for ear splitting volume levels, something difficult to characterize as "brilliant" if you value your hearing at all. Excessive loudness is known to cause permanent hearing damage.
I've used the S4 and S5 and don't find the S5 inferior in any sense. Noisy streets are a challenge with any phone and a better solution is to use a noise isolating and canceling headset. Speaker phones - all speaker phones for time immemorial have been notably bad experiences. No different here.
In short, the voice quality and loudness are good, the external speaker tinny and it remains a mystery why some brilliant folk insist on annoying everyone around them by using the speaker phone mode while walking down the sidewalk.
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I value hearing a lot, in fact more than anything, that's why I have never listened to music above 50/60% of total volume while all others keep cranking the volume up. That's completely irrelevant for earpiece volume though, however loud the earpiece goes I don't think there is any possible way to damage your hearings from a person's voice!! Maybe if a cat starts to sing on the other end you might have problem, but it's impossible with normal human beings! Having a loud earpiece is always good. What you said is applicable for music listening via IEM. Motorola's earpiece volume is brilliant, that's why I mentioned it as brilliant.
Anyway, thanks for the input. Nice to know that you don't find the S5 inferior to S4, and that there are some mods as well. However I think those mods will distort the earpiece sound to some extent, still they are available, and that's a good news.
Speakerphone is a thing I have never used for ringtone or listening to music, it's only for phone calls and that was the point of my query. I hate those persons who use the speakerphone on streets too. Pocketnow's review mentioned that on noisy streets you won't be able to hear the caller if you turn the speakerphone on, and the caller won't be able to hear you as well, and that scared me, still kinda does.
Seems like I might not have any serious problems regarding phone calls if I get the S5.
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4 db is not a lot. 3 db is the smallest change that most people can detect. For comparison, if you were to stand 4 feet away from a person that you are talking to instead of 2 feet, that would probably be a 6 db difference. It's not a linear scale and you need a ten fold reduction in power to perceive a 50% decrease in volume (10 db).
The earpiece volume on the S5 is not at all low by any reasonable standard. And even if you disageed, there are readily available mods to increase the volume. Motorola is known for ear splitting volume levels, something difficult to characterize as "brilliant" if you value your hearing at all. Excessive loudness is known to cause permanent hearing damage.
I've used the S4 and S5 and don't find the S5 inferior in any sense. Noisy streets are a challenge with any phone and a better solution is to use a noise isolating and canceling headset. Speaker phones - all speaker phones for time immemorial have been notably bad experiences. No different here.
In short, the voice quality and loudness are good, the external speaker tinny and it remains a mystery why some brilliant folk insist on annoying everyone around them by using the speaker phone mode while walking down the sidewalk.
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I find the in call volume and quality on S5 to be excellent. I come from a Sony Z2 (exchanged for S5 with someone) and first thing I noticed when I bought the Z2 was the awful call quality and very low volume (during a call). I was used with my old S2 which was crystal clear and I was disappointed with Z2.
PS: S5 has a boost volume mode during a call.
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I find the in call volume and quality on S5 to be excellent. I come from a Sony Z2 (exchanged for S5 with someone) and first thing I noticed when I bought the Z2 was the awful call quality and very low volume (during a call). I was used with my old S2 which was crystal clear and I was disappointed with Z2.
PS: S5 has a boost volume mode during a call.
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Thanks for a constructive and succinct response and for staying on the point, appreciate it.
Totally took this phone with me to the shower and started jamming to some music, right before this I was using it with my headphones. Apparently this phone sounds better with the speaker than with the headphones. Super loud and crisp speaker lets me actually hear the music when Im showering. Good job LG..
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Totally took this phone with me to the shower and started jamming to some music, right before this I was using it with my headphones. Apparently this phone sounds better with the speaker than with the headphones. Super loud and crisp speaker lets me actually hear the music when Im showering. Good job LG..
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You sure you didn't have an HTC One M8 in the shower with you? :cyclops:
All kidding aside, yes the LG G3's rear facing 1 watt speaker really took me by surprise. I kinda gave up on LG's external speaker output after owning a Nexus 5 and LG G2, both with miserable sounding speakers. The G3 has by far the best sounding single mono speaker I've heard on a phone, blows away my Wife's 5S and my friends S5. :good: Of course it doesn't stand a chance against my HTC M8, but for a single firing unit, it really rocks, very loud and clear.
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I hv been using navigation without connecting my G3 to the car audio and the sound is loud enough.
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Some headphones sound very good with this phone also. ...
I have some apple ear buds that are great with this phone. .... Really nice sound and only like 20 bucks
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yup . it really is amazing.
now to find out what that review article meant with "boosting" it to 1.5 watts.
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Some headphones sound very good with this phone also. ...
I have some apple ear buds that are great with this phone. .... Really nice sound and only like 20 bucks
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You gotta step up from Apple earbuds. Lots of good sounding ones on the market for cheap. Try Soundmagic!
I really am digging listening with the G3. I don't know what DAC it has. Anybody??
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Totally took this phone with me to the shower and started jamming to some music, right before this I was using it with my headphones. Apparently this phone sounds better with the speaker than with the headphones. Super loud and crisp speaker lets me actually hear the music when Im showering. Good job LG..
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Was this post intended for the m8 forum?
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I'm also loving the speakers on the LG G3 compare to my LG G2 and to my sister's galaxy s4.
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I'm also loving the speakers on the LG G3 compare to my LG G2 and to my sister's galaxy s4.
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Speakers blow my N5 away. I love it.
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Totally took this phone with me to the shower and started jamming to some music, right before this I was using it with my headphones. Apparently this phone sounds better with the speaker than with the headphones. Super loud and crisp speaker lets me actually hear the music when Im showering. Good job LG..
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I bought my G3 a week ago, and placed it side by side with my Note 2, and turned on the radio on loudspeakers on both phones. Surprised by the difference in sound quality and loudness, I played the same music files and videos on both phone at the same time. The loudspeaker sound on G3 is a joke, compared to what I get from Note 2. I am sorry, but it's true.
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I bought my G3 a week ago, and placed it side by side with my Note 2, and turned on the radio on loudspeakers on both phones. Surprised by the difference in sound quality and loudness, I played the same music files and videos on both phone at the same time. The loudspeaker sound on G3 is a joke, compared to what I get from Note 2. I am sorry, but it's true.
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u should have said.."the speaker on my g3 is a joke compared to my note 2" that way u dont speak for everyone
Speaker sounds way better than the nexus 5 I came from. The klipsch x10 sounds really good with it too.
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I bought my G3 a week ago, and placed it side by side with my Note 2, and turned on the radio on loudspeakers on both phones. Surprised by the difference in sound quality and loudness, I played the same music files and videos on both phone at the same time. The loudspeaker sound on G3 is a joke, compared to what I get from Note 2. I am sorry, but it's true.
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Actually, upon further review I placed my G3 side by side with my Focal Easya Speakers, and turned the radio on loudspeakers on both. The G3 loudspeaker is a joke compared to what I get from my Easya's.
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u should have said.."the speaker on my g3 is a joke compared to my note 2" that way u dont speak for everyone
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The difference in loudness does not leave any space for opinion. Unfortunately the loudspeaker on Note 2 produces a lot, and I mean a lot louder sound than G3. If the outcome would be slightly different, I would go ahead and say "my G3" and "my Note 2". But tbh, the difference is like night and day. So my argument is universally valid for G3 and Note 2.
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Actually, upon further review I placed my G3 side by side with my Focal Easya Speakers, and turned the radio on loudspeakers on both. The G3 loudspeaker is a joke compared to what I get from my Easya's.
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I hope I did not compare apples with oranges. As far as I can see, Note 2 has one speaker on the back, just like G3. So I thought it is reasonable to expect a similar speaker loudness/quality, at the very least, considering the fact that G3 is a never device.
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The difference in loudness does not leave any space for opinion. Unfortunately the loudspeaker on Note 2 produces a lot, and I mean a lot louder sound than G3. If the outcome would be slightly different, I would go ahead and say "my G3" and "my Note 2". But tbh, the difference is like night and day. So my argument is universally valid for G3 and Note 2.
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I hope I did not compare apples with oranges. As far as I can see, Note 2 has one speaker on the back, just like G3. So I thought it is reasonable to expect a similar speaker loudness/quality, at the very least, considering the fact that G3 is a never device.
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I wonder if your note 2 is in a custom rom with a sound mod because I'm pretty sure it is so it can't be truly compared unless your running fully stock on both phone using the same music and video files then you results could be taken serious. I think that's the only way to truly test the loudness of both speakers in my opinion
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I wonder if your note 2 is in a custom rom with a sound mod because I'm pretty sure it is so it can't be truly compared unless your running fully stock on both phone using the same music and video files then you results could be taken serious. I think that's the only way to truly test the loudness of both speakers in my opinion
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Agreed, my Note 2 speaker was meh until I modified audio settings.
since the note 2 was obviously modded, then we go the modded vs modded hehe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/guide-headphone-speaker-volume-booster-t2819821
just a volume mod, not like those bass enhancing etc etc mods i've used in the past for S3 which are surely available also for note 2.
since i only have STOCK s3 to compare and playing same music on both phones in MAX volume via loudspeaker, i already know the G3 is way louder and better than S3.
so, i went looking for comparisons for s3 and note 2's speaker.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_galaxy_note_ii-review-830p7.php
"Loudspeaker
The Samsung Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note II both scored Good marks in our loudspeaker test. The two speakers aren't tuned the same way though, the S III is louder when it comes to voice, while the Note II does better with ringtones. Their loudness is identical when it comes to music."
hence, stock note 2's loudspeaker is a JOKE(myphonemyrule's word not mine) compared to G3's.
we use loudspeaker most of the time for voice and music.
Voice, dB Pink noise/ Music, dB Ringing phone, dB Overal score
Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III 75.1 66.5 75.0 Good
Samsung Note II N7100 70.0 66.6 80.5 Good
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since the note 2 was obviously modded, then we go the modded vs modded hehe
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/development/guide-headphone-speaker-volume-booster-t2819821
just a volume mod, not like those bass enhancing etc etc mods i've used in the past for S3 which are surely available also for note 2.
since i only have STOCK s3 to compare and playing same music on both phones in MAX volume via loudspeaker, i already know the G3 is way louder and better than S3.
so, i went looking for comparisons for s3 and note 2's speaker.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_iii_vs_galaxy_note_ii-review-830p7.php
"Loudspeaker
The Samsung Galaxy S III and Galaxy Note II both scored Good marks in our loudspeaker test. The two speakers aren't tuned the same way though, the S III is louder when it comes to voice, while the Note II does better with ringtones. Their loudness is identical when it comes to music."
hence, stock note 2's loudspeaker is a JOKE(myphonemyrule's word not mine) compared to G3's.
we use loudspeaker most of the time for voice and music.
Voice, dB Pink noise/ Music, dB Ringing phone, dB Overal score
Samsung I9300 Galaxy S III 75.1 66.5 75.0 Good
Samsung Note II N7100 70.0 66.6 80.5 Good
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I am not sure guys, I must've been doing something differently than the reviewer. Both my G3 and Note 2 are on stock ROM. Actually Note 2 is my company phone, so it is not even rooted. I have rooted G3, but I have tested the sound while it was still not rooted. And as you can imagine, I am not happy about it, because I payed for G3, unlike Note 2. I am happy with anything about the phone, but the loudspeaker. The volume is set to max on both phones, and on Note 2 the Audio Output is set to Surround. And that's about it. I have measured the sound output using a soundmeter, and Note 2 gave me 83-87db while G3 remained at 72-77db while playing the same music file on both phones. The same goes for the FM Radio. The difference is around 10db on the output.
By the way, thank you for the mod link for G3. I will give it a try right away.
I'm pretty happy with the speaker on the g3 as well.
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Op, please change the thread title to G3 vs Note 2 speaker comparison.
Oh, just in case anyone is wondering. My dog is definitely bigger than your dog and he's pure stock. Nope, not even rooted.
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I'm happy overall with the loudness and clarity of the speaker on my G3. Just need something loud and clear enough to hear YouTube vids and such. I have a bluetooth speaker if I need more clarity and volume.
I think its absolutely hilarious when people come in here bashing another phones external speaker. I also have an M8. You know what? It's just 2 little freakin' cellphone speakers. People act like their carrying around an expensive home theater system. LMAO! They all really sound like poop. [emoji33] About all you can ask for is they're loud enough to hear and don't distort. The G3 fits the bill. [emoji6]
Any words if the Note4 speaker is louder and have more bass than the Note3 speaker?
I'm hoping the speaker is at least as good as the Note2 speaker... if that's the case it's time to upgrade my Note2. If not I might hang on to my Note2 yet another year.
hahahahahaha your username. oh dear god. horrible, awful memories.
but i heard the speaker at best buy. it's pretty tinny sounding. nothing that viper4android can't fix though!
Any words if the Note4 speaker is louder and have more bass than the Note3 speaker?<br />
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I'm hoping the speaker is at least as good as the Note2 speaker... if that's the case it's time to upgrade my Note2. If not I might hang on to my Note2 yet another year.<br/
I have a note 2 and I went to best buy and checked out the note 4. Speaker sound was even better than my Note 2.
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Any words if the Note4 speaker is louder and have more bass than the Note3 speaker?
I'm hoping the speaker is at least as good as the Note2 speaker... if that's the case it's time to upgrade my Note2. If not I might hang on to my Note2 yet another year.
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Unfortanetelly I can't tell you regarding the bass but according to two or three reviewers is definitely louder.
It sounded pretty loud when I heard it playing a video
i can attest that its louder but it gets distorted at max level. simply there is no upgrade in clarity or fidelity in comparison to older models.
Played with it yesterday can tell you its definitely louder than the note 3 speaker and sounds more bassy imo
At BB guy had note 3 and note 4 side by side, max vol and playing through notification sounds....note 4 was definitely louder! Noticably so...looking forward to the improved volume.
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So conflicted. After moving from Samsung to the M8, I've gotten so spoiled when it comes to sound. Not sure if I should go for the Note 4, but that screen is so tantalizing. Heck, even the iPhone 6 is tempting me these days, until I read the specs again, and then I just can't justify the price any more.
Oh well, I guess I'll just buy the Note 4 and then decide which to keep.
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Played with it yesterday can tell you its definitely louder than the note 3 speaker and sounds more bassy imo
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Thanks... maybe it's the same speaker as on the Note2 since it's been moved back to the rear side of the phone?
I never purchased the Note3 due to the speaker being worse than on my Note2.
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Thanks... maybe it's the same speaker as on the Note2 since it's been moved back to the rear side of the phone?
I never purchased the Note3 due to the speaker being worse than on my Note2.
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I do not think it is the same speaker as the note 2, as that was one hell of a great speaker. What I can say it is noticeably louder than the note 3,and quite possibly louder than the note 2. The note 2 to me has a "deeper" sound, and the note 4 doesn't quite get to that level of bass. Much more clarity than the note 2 and 3. I think with Viper4android or any other speaker and sound mods on xda, the note 4 could have the best speaker of all samsung phones (despite my dislike for the back positioning)
I really like my note 2 speaker. I hope the note 4 will be better. Planning to get one next week.
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The Note4 speaker is the only thing I'm not convinced is an upgrade over my great Note2 speaker that can sound good at max volume while the two times I tested out the Note4 its speaker sounded terrible at max volume (while it sounds louder the quality of sound from the Note4 seems worse-definitely at max volume but didn't test extensively on lower volumes where it may be comparable or perhaps even an upgrade as long as the volume is more regulated than the Note2 that typically sounds good on all volumes). I did notice the Note4 speakers sound good with certain high quality recordings like certain 1080p movie trailers while other YouTube videos sound significantly less enjoyable. Of course I do have various bluetooth speakers but I'd like not to have to carry them when I want to show something to a few people when mobile. The Note3 speaker was so bad it was a deal breaker for me so I didn't get it (definitely seemed worse than the Note2 speaker) but I hope not to have to wait for the Note5 for decent speakers so please owners-reviewers let us know your experience with the Note4 speaker vs Note2&3 speakers & I hope Samsung focuses more on speaker quality next time as it's such a great multimedia handset otherwise.
Below were my comments after the first time with a Note4 at BestBuy (2nd time was last night) in response to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VArmujW0hEI:
I finally had a chance to see the Note4 in person at BestBuy on Oct 1 (just after I saw the iPhone 6/+Plus again for my dad & left even more unimpressed with the iPhone6s) while the Note4 screen is stunning. It is so much brighter & crisper with pleasing colors (not so obviously oversaturated in a nauseating artificial cartoony way as in some prior amoled displays) compared to my dimmer 720p Note 2 but also the comparatively duller iPhone 6 screens I'd just seen.
The camera shots ability to zoom in the 16MP photos was amazing so in that sense more pixels really is helpful compared to iPhone's 8 MP & the quality was excellent although some shots looked hazy yet the lighting was not great at the time so will need to keep testing. The front facing 3.7 MP camera may be too wide angle for many potential uses but you can adjust the modes some it seems.
I too had been obsessing somewhat on the slow mo quality & not having sound like the iPhone (although I tested slow mo quickly on iPhone6+ & the sound recording was weak but still better than no sound). I remember the slow motion & fast motion video options on my Note2 was fun (before the iPhone had slow mo) but Samsung hasn't really advanced much there (although slow motion now seems FHD where only fast motion was FHD on my note2). My Note2 also had many of the same video effects like cartoonify but noticed other cool ones like Oil Pastel & Moody etc that should be fun along with its dual camera mode (like the Note 3 but with better cameras) recording both the front & rear facing camera simultaneously that I'll likely use more than a slow mo that still records without any sound in Note2,3,4.. maybe Note5 will have slow motion audio capture with front facing speakers..
I'm disappointed that Samsung does not focus more on sound as while the Note4 speaker is very loud at max volume it sounds terrible requiring a volume lowering to sound acceptable while my Note 2 speaker is solid mostly even at max volume & the Note 3 speaker was so bad I couldn't "downgrade" to it. Samsung is more known for their display technology than sound technology but I was hoping for at least as good as my Note2 speaker & I'm not convinced it is although it is definitely louder but I wouldn't keep it at higher volumes due to sounding so strained & unpleasing. Note 4 speaker is definitely better than the Note3 speaker where it was a deal breaker for me but Samsung should do better. Also noticed the iPhone 6 no longer has 2 speakers like in the iPhone 5s rather one smaller speaker at the bottom in the new thinner iPhones that seemed unimpressive but don't remember distortion at loud volumes like with the Note 4 so would recommend staying away from those louder volume settings when avoidable in the Note4. The Nexus 6 is supposed to have dual front facing stereo speakers so curious about it & its other specs but don't know yet if it will have removable battery functionality like the Note line. I simply pop in a new inexpensive replaceable battery on my Note2 daily & thus no need to be a wall hugger like iPhoners (or no longer have to put up with so called "range anxiety" that many current electric car owners describe).
The Note 4 feels much more dense & solid in the hand like a weapon compared to plastic making it feel more premium but no longer get that feather light feeling that some may be used to. BestBuy only had the white model which is better looking with metal frame+accents & more premium feeling than the noticeably taller white iPhone 6 Plus. I'd like to see the Note4 in black like my Note2 but the display definitely pops on the white display with its metal accents yet I'm still leaning toward black with cases to change its looks (typically get http://www.seidioonline.com/samsung-galaxy-note-4-surface-kickstand-case-black-p/csr3ssgt4k-bk.htm (plus removable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EVFO1G ) but may get http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MAWQKIW & open to suggestions as cases have spared me from damage. After seeing this drop test I'm considering a screen protector for its gorgeous screen but previously have preferred naked gorilla glass screens with cases providing a protective barrier lip from direct (but admittedly not indirect angle hits).
What's ridiculous is that BestBuy can not manage to supply consistent wifi so during the 2 hours of testing had about 8 minutes of WiFi to stream 1080p content on YouTube & no chance to stream 4K YouTube content. Because it was in display mode it would (eventually) see my android tether but would not connect to it. I mentioned to the Samsung rep that if BestBuy can't manage to provide WiFi to them that Samsung should supply their own private WiFi to properly showcase-sell Samsung products otherwise many people just walk away frustrated.
I'm hoping when I go back to BestBuy I'll be able to properly test whether 480p-720p-1080p content looks worse upscaled on a 2K screen of the Note4 compared to Note3's native 1080p screen or Note2's native 720p screen. Most of my & YouTube's videos are 480p-720p-1080p & not yet 4K so would like someone to try to settle the debate of whether the Note4's native 2K display is a less practical resolution for legacy videos despite its brighter more vivid display..
Look forward to checking it out again soon..
Update: On my 2nd visit last night I was able to stream 4K YouTube videos which was cool but not mind blowing on the 2K screen (native 4K recording on its screen seemed more impressive to me visually for some reason maybe because it was self enpowering & less passive) & in limited tests upscaled 480p-720p-1080p didn't look problematic but did not have the opportunity to do side by side testing where native resolutions matching content without upscaling typically looks best (e.g. blow up lower resolution photos to a higher resolution & it looks less sharp) so I'm still curious if 2K resolution is the most practical resolution for most legacy videos but the main issue leaving me feel underwhelmed & dissatisfied is its speaker that I'm not convinced is better & actually worse sounding at max volume than the Note2 so I had to keep it at least 1-3 levels below max depending on the recording I was listening to.
Interested in more discussion of the Note4 speaker from owners-testers compared to Note2.:highfive:
Note 4 Speaker Quality
I have a Note 2 and just upgraded to the Note 4.
I have compared both with the same file in Sound Player and could not detect Note 4 being louder.
Slightly sad that in 2014 Samsung hasn't added stereo speakers yet.
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I have a Note 2 and just upgraded to the Note 4.
I have compared both with the same file in Sound Player and could not detect Note 4 being louder.
Slightly sad that in 2014 Samsung hasn't added stereo speakers yet.
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Please try more than one file, watch various identical YouTube videos (e.g. movie trailers, music, tech reviews) & comment on quality-volume levels. The Note4 sounded louder but terrible at max volume vs Note2 that typically sounds good at all volumes but the environment was loud & included at times three Note4's blasted at once so not the best test environment.
I just comment the following at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UYwfonN2hM
Thanks for this video Michael but anyone who has heard the Note4 speaker knows it's better than the terrible Note3 speaker which isn't saying much..the comparison has to include the solid Note2 speaker & showing how the Note2 can typically sound good at max volume while the Note4 sounds terrible on max volume sadly. Most markets including US (where it's only available to demo in BestBuy-not purchase until Oct 17th), we haven't had the chance to test extensively the Note2 speaker vs the Note4 which frankly is the more common upgrade scenario (& people including myself refused to upgrade to the Note3 because the speaker was so inferior to the Note2) & we'd greatly appreciate if you compare to Note2 speaker. If the Nexus 6 rumors prove true likely next week then it may be as fast as the Note4 (with a larger 5.9 QHD screen yet ~same size) with dual stereo front facing speakers & Android L at a significantly lower cost so please do the test vs Note2, if it's as good as the Note2 & just have to keep it away from max volume many would upgrade given the pen & other enhancements but if the Note4 speaker is actually worse than the Note2 speaker people may have to look to the Nexus 6 until the Note5 catches up. Please compare the Note4 speaker to the Note2 speaker. -Thnx
BTW, I know The Daily Note YouTube Channel has the Note2 to compare it to: " *Note 2 Tips & Tricks Table of Contents: http://tinyurl.com/b64yfs2 " & hope it didn't neglect to compare The Note2 speaker because it would make the Note4 look like a downgrade..still have my fingers crossed that the Note4 speaker isn't a downgrade from the Note2 speaker..
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...e-screen-size-is-questioned-no-longer_id61536
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-battery-dual-front-facing-speakers-and-more/
https://www.google.com/webhp?source...&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Nexus 6 dual speaker photo
nvm..
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Also noticed the iPhone 6 no longer has 2 speakers like in the iPhone 5s rather one smaller speaker at the bottom in the new thinner iPhones that seemed unimpressive but don't remember distortion at loud volumes like with the Note 4 so would recommend staying away from those louder volume settings when avoidable in the Note4.
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Pretty sure the 5s also has only 1 speaker. Sure it has 2 seperate speaker grills at the bottom...but if you cover one of them....the sound doesn't change at all.
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Pretty sure the 5s also has only 1 speaker. Sure it has 2 seperate speaker grills at the bottom...but if you cover one of them....the sound doesn't change at all.
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True that the image at https://www.apple.com/iphone-5s/specs/ suggests the larger grill is for the built-in speaker while the other smaller grill is actually for the microphone but sadly that doesn't translate to the Note4 having a pleasing speaker to match its pleasing screen. I'd be satisfied if it matched the Note2 from 2 years ago but I'm not convinced it does as it definitely sounds terrible at higher-max volumes while the Note2 doesn't. Hoping to hear from people who upgraded to the Note4 from the Note2 for their perspective but if the Note4 had a better speaker I wouldn't be so interested in the Nexus6 expected to be announced on 10/15.
I returned my note 4 speaker was horrible whilst it was louder than note 3 as it was back firing it sounded lower when watching stuff going to get a nexus 6 never going samsung again till they fix their speakers otherwise was a nice phone.
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I returned my note 4 speaker was horrible whilst it was louder than note 3 as it was back firing it sounded lower when watching stuff going to get a nexus 6 never going samsung again till they fix their speakers otherwise was a nice phone.
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I did the same! Ordered it direct from Samsung on the Monday,, they had mine back by Thursday . I lodged a complaint, was told it would reach the right people.
I am incensed that Samsung released the Note 4 with such an embarrassingly bad speaker. It's awful. Even my Note 3 sounds wonderful compared to it!
I tried many players, none could save it.. It's gone back.
Did you state speaker quality as your reason for return as well?
If those bafoons used the Note 2 speaker the 4 would be a killer phone, you made a mistake there Samsung.
Proper etiquette aside (hint: don't use speakerphone while doing your "business" in a public bathroom), rate this thread to express how you think the Note5's speakerphone performs. A higher rating indicates that you love it: it's loud and it's clear.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I think unless you have dual front-facing speakers like on HTC phones or the Nexus 6, you have to keep your expectations in check when it comes to speakerphone loudness and clarity. But I must say that the Note5's speakerphone gets extremely loud, however at the very highest registers of volume, it distorts a little. However, I don't even need to jack up the volume that high because it's so loud at medium settings.
plz help
hi guys i want to know about the quality sound of the note 5 headphones and if it loud or no ?
and is the iphone 6 sounds better if you put apple earpod or the samsung note 5 with there headphones better ?
be fair please!
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hi guys i want to know about the quality sound of the note 5 headphones and if it loud or no ?
and is the iphone 6 sounds better if you put apple earpod or the samsung note 5 with there headphones better ?
be fair please!
thanks ...
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Its not very loud. Really need to crank it up. And the equalizer sucks too. Bass gets distorted and treble is given more prominence.
Comparing the Note 5 speaker to the Note 4 speaker....In the brief time I did was kind of let down a bit. Though I feel I need more time to make a final decision
The Note 4 was really loud. And despite what people claim not that bad either. Supposedly rated 82-85DB
The Note 5 moved from the 1 watt speaker to a 1.2 watt speaker and dropped the volume down to whats I believe measured 72-75DB. Yet it didn't sound that much better to me in fidelity or bass.
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Since I still have my Samsung Omnia HD from early 2009 I can't understand how Samsung dropped to quieter single speakers after that when it head some of if not the best speakers back then.
And it took til around the S4 or so to make it to acceptable performance. And since then the Note 4 did great.....But here we are almost 7 years later and still only single speaker and with more powerful speaker than the Note 4 is quieter and not much better sounding....
Why??????
Just put the Galaxy Beam "projector phon which I also have" but make it 60-100 lumen laser, the Zoom "their 10x optical zoom lens phone" into the Note. Give it a larger camera sensor, huge battery, and no less than 4 speakers. A physical keyboard wouldn't hurt.
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Comparing the Note 5 speaker to the Note 4 speaker....In the brief time I did was kind of let down a bit. Though I feel I need more time to make a final decision
The Note 4 was really loud. And despite what people claim not that bad either. Supposedly rated 82-85DB
The Note 5 moved from the 1 watt speaker to a 1.2 watt speaker and dropped the volume down to whats I believe measured 72-75DB. Yet it didn't sound that much better to me in fidelity or bass.
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Since I still have my Samsung Omnia HD from early 2009 I can't understand how Samsung dropped to quieter single speakers after that when it head some of if not the best speakers back then.
And it took til around the S4 or so to make it to acceptable performance. And since then the Note 4 did great.....But here we are almost 7 years later and still only single speaker and with more powerful speaker than the Note 4 is quieter and not much better sounding....
Why??????
Just put the Galaxy Beam "projector phon which I also have" but make it 60-100 lumen laser, the Zoom "their 10x optical zoom lens phone" into the Note. Give it a larger camera sensor, huge battery, and no less than 4 speakers. A physical keyboard wouldn't hurt.
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If they are giving speakers, they might as well match it with the other flagship phones to atleast stay in completion.
Even the headphone output is really low. My Oneplus One and Xiaomi Mi4 had amazing headphones output compared to what I am getting on my Note 5. Samsung can easily improve it by modifying the software. Hope they make it better in the next updates.
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aakaashjois said:
If they are giving speakers, they might as well match it with the other flagship phones to atleast stay in completion.
Even the headphone output is really low. My Oneplus One and Xiaomi Mi4 had amazing headphones output compared to what I am getting on my Note 5. Samsung can easily improve it by modifying the software. Hope they make it better in the next updates.
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The audio DAC in the Exynos devices, especially that of the S6/Note 5 means business. Samsung's ability to deliver on it....Not so much. It's one area where they seem to be way less knowledgable and need to figure it out or mature up and ask for help/hire someone that can do the job. Camera, display, SoC, features are class leading. Audio hardware top notch....But audio software...terrible?? No. It's quality is among the better and volume is ok for stock...But very held back.
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The audio DAC in the Exynos devices, especially that of the S6/Note 5 means business. Samsung's ability to deliver on it....Not so much. It's one area where they seem to be way less knowledgable and need to figure it out or mature up and ask for help/hire someone that can do the job. Camera, display, SoC, features are class leading. Audio hardware top notch....But audio software...terrible?? No. It's quality is among the better and volume is ok for stock...But very held back.
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I really wish they make it better. I have stopped listening to music on my phone because it's not loud enough and even the bass is low... I use my 5 year old Nexus One to listen to songs now.
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Ahh, the small kink in this MASSIVE armor of this juggernote phone. The speaker is not awful, it's loud enough it's clarity is ok but I thought for this high end device, it could be better. I try not to use the speaker unless I have to. Most of the time, I have bluetooth headset on or bluetooth in the car going through the speakers. But honestly, who really usses speaker phone now adays? unless you have an older car that does not have bluebooth connectivity. It's a deal breaker for me, the speaker quality is good enough. Snapchat, messenger video and google hangouts video speaker quality and loudness is just above average. Better off using a bluetooth headset, bluetooth in car or wired headset. Not awful, but not excellent either.