friend,
iam looking for a portable windows 8 pro machine ,productivity is more important for me than apps so iam skipping ipad and android tabs.
iam confused whether to go for an ultrabook or tab. i already have a laptop with good specs.
i have a couple of questions to ask.
1.is ultrabook a good alternative to tablet?
2.a windows 8 tab with keyboard setup like dell venue pro 11 will be as comfortable to use/portable as an ultabook?
3.is the new Intel Atom quad-core Bay Trail processor powerful enough to run average legacy apps
thanks in advance
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I have the VivoTab RT tablet and enjoy it, but it's a bit sluggish.
I was wondering whether the Atom processor full Win8 tablets like the Thinkpad Tablet 2 or the Acer W510/P would be any faster? Having full Windows 8 is cool, but I'm looking to improve performance in Metro apps and Office mostly.
Anyone with any experience using both RT and an Atom tablet, I'd love to hear from you....thanks in advance
It's faster but still sluggish loading apps. Once loaded, they are fine. I find I can do a bit more with less lag on x86 than on RT. Comparing Surface RT with Asus ME400c.
I'm searching for a tablet that comes with a full windows 8 but that is also supported by the linux kernel so I could install Ubuntu on it.
I thought that an atom Z2760 based tablet was the way to go, but I've discovered that that processor is not nor will be supported by the linux kernel, so that was a no go.
Atom Z2760 based tablets were relatively not so expensive, so I'm looking for a tablet that costs under 500 euros/550$ and the screen size to be 8" or above (10" would be perfect)
Do you have any suggestions for me?
Thanks in advance!
As you point out, the atom tablets cannot run linux. That leaves you with intel core i3/i5/i7. I dont know of any within your budget.
Only things I can think of are either
A) wait quite a while. The bay trail CPU's are back to what you expect and are normal x86 processors capable of running windows 8 and linux if you wish. However I dont think they are due until 2014.
B) Virtualbox on an atom tablet. No one wants to do that really.
C) Increase your budget.
If you don't mind *installing* Win8 rather than having it come pre-installed, there are plenty of older tablet PCs which will do the job, and while most of them initially retailed for far above your cutoff price, you can usually find them fairly cheap nowadays.
For example, here's an older Dell Latitude 10 tablet that uses an Oak Trail Atom CPU and runs Win7 by default, and is in your price range: http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnline...arch.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dfh&cs=22&puid=2e477084
Bear in mind though: those specs are pretty bad by today's standards. It will run Win8, and it will run any desktop Linux distro I know of, but it won't run either one terribly well.
Thanks for your replies, really appreciate them!
Ok, I guess I'll just pass this generation of affordable Win8 tablets and get a laptop.
Once again, thanks for your help!
Ok, so basically what i am wondering is if the Dell venue [baytrail] tablets are able to upgrade their OS? I really want to purchase the Dell Venue 11 Pro but i am reluctant to because when reviewing it i discovered that it only comes with the 32-bit version of windows 8.1. I was surprised because i knew that the baytrail processor actually supports 64-bit operating systems. Its just that the current 64-bit windows 8.1 OS does not have working drivers that are compatible with the Dell venue pros :| . (How convenient for me).
Basically what i am hoping is to get an answer from a person who already owns one or knows a little bit more about it. Are the venue pros capable of having their operating system wiped and having anything installed on it? IE. Ubuntu, or some other linux distro? because if this is the case then that would mean once a driver comes out that supports baytrails processor for the 64-bit version that customers with already purchased tablets can easily re-install the 64-bit version.
Just to note, so far i talked to some people from dell but they said i could not upgrade the OS. So, now i am going to try my luck with the tech department. Im hoping they will know a lot more about this.
Also, the reason i am wanting this tablet is so that i can program on it as well as take notes for my classes. I am currently going for a computer engineering degree with the computer science route @ Texas A&M- College station.
If anything, if i get enough taxes back i will purchase the the i3 version or maybe the surface pro 2. Im not sure yet =_= but that is a discussion for another thread. (basically i would like to be able to run unity, or blender on the tablet, and i know those programs are to processor intensive to run on an atom processor)
Unity or blender, sounds like you would be better off skipping tablets and actually getting a laptop or bare minimum something like the aforementioned surface pro 2.
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Unity or blender, sounds like you would be better off skipping tablets and actually getting a laptop or bare minimum something like the aforementioned surface pro 2.
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I have actually thought of using a team viewer app so that i can connect to my desktop when wanting to deal with unity....im just not sure if team viewer will support touch input :S . As for the tablet i just want it to be capable on its own. The baytrail can run full windows application so if team viewer does not support touch throughput then maybe something else will. I also want a tablet that can be self capable of course. So far from what i have read, the CPU seems to be superior to all ARM processors. But, unfortunately the graphics are terrible when compared to the latest arms. So that is why i am also wondering. Should i wait till the end of 2014 to buy a cherry trial tablet?
Cherry trail will be the next generation in the atom processors that will have a faster cpu and will have 4 times the graphics cores... so hopefully up to 4 times the graphics capabilities which will put it well ahead of all current arm processors. Even the upcoming Snapdragon 805 processor!
the main downfalls for me that are preventing me from getting a Dell Venue pro 11 are three things. First, that its on 32-bit windows, second it only has 2GB of ram, and third that the graphics on the tablet are terrible!
So all that aside.... should i wait for the cherry trail version of the Dell venue 11 pro? or wait for the 64-bit version of the baytrail venue pro with upgraded ram comes out... (if it comes out)
Hey Guys,
I have a Chinese tablet with the following settings below.
Atom Processor Z3735G or Z3735E
RAM 1 GB
HD 8 GB
Windows 8.1
8 inch screen
As I saw that Samsung has the Ativ Q, where runs Android within the Windows like an app.
Given this I wonder if I can do the same in this Chinese tablet that runs Windows 8.1.
If possible can you give me this?!
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Hey Guys,
I have a Chinese tablet with the following settings below.
Atom Processor Z3735G or Z3735E
RAM 1 GB
HD 8 GB
Windows 8.1
8 inch screen
As I saw that Samsung has the Ativ Q, where runs Android within the Windows like an app.
Given this I wonder if I can do the same in this Chinese tablet that runs Windows 8.1.
If possible can you give me this?!
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Run Bluestacks. No idea on performance with your device, but it works like a champ on my surface pro.
No idea on this bro
Hello,
I am going to buy a tablet PC soon. I have decided to go for a Windows 8.1 tablet, which are available for about the same price as HDX
My options are:
Dell Venue 8 Pro
Acer Iconia W4
Lenovo Miix 2 8
Is the Intel Atom Z3740D processor in Venue 8 Pro better than the Intel Atom Z3740 in the other two?
The benchmark scores available on different review sites are conflicting. While the Iconia W4 is ahead with HDMI output, the Lenovo Miix 2 8 is officially supported by the upcoming ConsoleOS, which would allow dual booting Windows and Android, getting the best of both worlds.
Do you have any experience with any of these tablets? Suggestions Awaited.
Thanks
LaNoire said:
Hello,
I am going to buy a tablet PC soon. I have decided to go for a Windows 8.1 tablet, which are available for about the same price as HDX
My options are:
Dell Venue 8 Pro
Acer Iconia W4
Lenovo Miix 2 8
Is the Intel Atom Z3740D processor in Venue 8 Pro better than the Intel Atom Z3740 in the other two?
The benchmark scores available on different review sites are conflicting. While the Iconia W4 is ahead with HDMI output, the Lenovo Miix 2 8 is officially supported by the upcoming ConsoleOS, which would allow dual booting Windows and Android, getting the best of both worlds.
Do you have any experience with any of these tablets? Suggestions Awaited.
Thanks
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The difference between the Z3740 and Z3740D is miniscule, considering the benchmark data I've seen.
From your list I'd consider the Dell as the best choice - that is: if they finally managed to get the digitizer to work properly and last more than a week or two
Personally, I've got an Asus Vivotab Note 8. It's in the same category as the tablets you've listed. It comes with a Wacom Digitizer (same technology as in the Samsung Note phablets) which I consider to be an essential tool for the tablet.
The screen is just too small hit checkboxes etc with your finger
And about ConsoleOS: I'd be careful. If it's actually being released: great. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782798
There's a lot of information on it and why it looks like a scam
Fahrertuer said:
The difference between the Z3740 and Z3740D is miniscule, considering the benchmark data I've seen.
From your list I'd consider the Dell as the best choice - that is: if they finally managed to get the digitizer to work properly and last more than a week or two
Personally, I've got an Asus Vivotab Note 8. It's in the same category as the tablets you've listed. It comes with a Wacom Digitizer (same technology as in the Samsung Note phablets) which I consider to be an essential tool for the tablet.
The screen is just too small hit checkboxes etc with your finger
And about ConsoleOS: I'd be careful. If it's actually being released: great. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2782798
There's a lot of information on it and why it looks like a scam
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Thank you for the input. The digitizer is of little use to me because my purpose is gaming. I know that these are entry level tablets, but they still can run some recent games at playable FPS. There are some videos on youtube where these tablets are shown running relatively newer games like Skyrim (2011) and Tomb Raider (2013). There is even a video where the VivoTab Note 8 is running GTA IV! Besides, you could run loads of older games and even PS2 games.
As for ConsoleOS, the one thing that makes it look real is that the company behind it, MMV, has in the past created an android based console. This console was reviewed by enGadget at MMV's office.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/13/iconsole-tv-x86-android-game-console/
I think I will watch some comparision videos and then make a decision.
Cheers
LaNoire said:
Thank you for the input. The digitizer is of little use to me because my purpose is gaming. I know that these are entry level tablets, but they still can run some recent games at playable FPS. There are some videos on youtube where these tablets are shown running relatively newer games like Skyrim (2011) and Tomb Raider (2013). There is even a video where the VivoTab Note 8 is running GTA IV! Besides, you could run loads of older games and even PS2 games.
As for ConsoleOS, the one thing that makes it look real is that the company behind it, MMV, has in the past created an android based console. This console was reviewed by enGadget at MMV's office.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/13/iconsole-tv-x86-android-game-console/
I think I will watch some comparision videos and then make a decision.
Cheers
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better do some research.....they never delivered on their iconsole.tv and iconsole.tv apps store that
they were going to deliver in Nov./Dec. 2013.........and simply jumped to consoleOS in what June 2014......
said they had been working "in stealth" mode for 18 months yet cannot produce any code / downloadable code for test builds / etc.
their going to produce a special Apps Store with consoleos also...yet they failed to deliver on the iconsole.tv one...!!!
everything is a lot of talk.....NOTHING verifiable by anyone...the press only puts out what their given...as they dump massive amounts of
press releases....oh and their videos and appearances at different Intel developer forums......yet no one in the press has shown a download,
or a test build that they have used to verify any of the claims....the press is only interested in page clicks to generate revenue...no time to verify anything with the tough questions that really matter....all they have shown is the same things that others Asus,Dell, etc. had already shown, before Microsoft and Google shut down dual-booting of Windows with Android......
most likely a scam...
Actually I Like The Dell Venu 8 pro But I Don't Know If It Still 32GB SSD
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