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How to get a an early upgrade ATT

I'm a relatively new att customer and the note was just annoinced and id like to get it for the contract price. Does anyone know workarounds to get it
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mariol66 said:
I'm a relatively new att customer and the note was just annoinced and id like to get it for the contract price. Does anyone know workarounds to get it
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when is your upgrade....
can do 30 days prior to your date call cs

I just got my plan in december so I'm locked in for awhile but I didn't know ajything about the note then so idk cn I claim my phone stolen?
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Hmm...for a note you'd have to get it outside att now....if you upgraded last december...
Stolen..not really...unless you have insurance and willing to pay the deductable....
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mariol66 said:
I'm a relatively new att customer and the note was just annoinced and id like to get it for the contract price. Does anyone know workarounds to get it
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My mom recently called complaining that her device was malfunctioning and they replaced her handset, she went through this process 3 times and at that point she said not to send her another phone, that she wanted a different phone. After many calls to customer service we finally got a hold of a really nice representative and she worked with her and she was able to "upgrade" to a Samsung Infuse which is MUCH nicer than the one she has now.

I had some legitimate issues with the Evo 4G, where my data connection would drop whenever I was inside a building, but as soon as I would get outside, or into the Sprint store, everything would run flawlessly. They kept telling me that there was nothing they could do because to them, it was working fine.. They told me, you can send your phone back for them to give you a new one, but that required me being without a Smart Phone for a week (which with my job, I use my Smart Phone everyday! I told them that was unacceptable) After many calls and complaints, I went into the store to get a new phone, where they informed me that there was a note on my account to let me get an early upgrade.
I think if you really want to get a different phone already, it might just be as simple as complaining that there is something wrong with your phone. However, they might want you to ship it back to have them give you a new phone of the same make (leaving you without a phone for a week or two) a few times before they even think about letting you get a different phone.
Try to find a legitimate flaw with your current phone, something that can't exactly be corrected, some seldom used feature that just doesn't work correctly, then complain like it's the end of the world

I thought we were boycotting Motorola.

Did no one watch XDA developer TV last week. We are suppose to send Motorola a message by not buying or developing for their products so they start playing by the community way. Releasing source code, updating devices that they promised to update, etc. Just saying if we are going to work as a community we should all follow the advice of others that are recommending a complete boycott of said devices. What do you think?

INTEL INSIDE. X86. Will buy this device when devs start to release roms. And motorola is changed i think, they relased sources. INTEL, you can unlock bootloader,INTEL, and they use intel processors INSIDE! lol
Trolling mode off: Tell me, why i have to boycot motorola? Best materials, best signal strenght, best radio, best SoC. They relased sources, the opened a site wich in you can unlock the bootloader. Please explain.
(sorry for my terrible english)

vvveith said:
Did no one watch XDA developer TV last week. We are suppose to send Motorola a message by not buying or developing for their products so they start playing by the community way. Releasing source code, updating devices that they promised to update, etc. Just saying if we are going to work as a community we should all follow the advice of others that are recommending a complete boycott of said devices. What do you think?
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Motorola gave 5 free RAZR M Developer editions to US power-users (including myself and P3Droid).
Motorola has always released their source code for kernels... more timely than some but still could use some upload checkers hehe.
I got jellybean leaks for the RAZR M and RAZR HD.. and hopefully soon for RAZR i.
My bootloader is unlocked...
Boycotting this doesn't make sense. The old Motorola yes. Verizon yes. The new Motorola? Not so much. Every device released since they announced their unlock program has an option to be unlocked, and for Verizon they had to make a separate Developer Edition since they are the bad guys here. If anyone should be boycotted its Verizon for requiring locked bootloaders for retail devices and killing unlimited data.
Cheers

You can boycott them if you want, but I'll continue to buy Motorola devices. They rival HTC in build quality, and the radios can't be matched. Plus, they actually make form factors that I want. Motorola was the only one to make a portrait QWERTY with decent specs (and they were the first at all, as far as I can remember). That gave me 2 more years before I had to make the switch to a stupid slab. Now, they're the only ones making a small device with high end specs. Samsung's attempt at that, announced on Thursday, is a joke.

If all on xda boycotted Motorola I doubt they would notice? Anyway, no use cutting your nose off to spite your face. I certainly agree that their radios are by far better than their competitors. Now under the wing of Google I'm hoping they have changed. Time will tell!
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I watched this video.
paul89rulez said:
INTEL INSIDE. X86. Will buy this device when devs start to release roms. And motorola is changed i think, they relased sources. INTEL, you can unlock bootloader,INTEL, and they use intel processors INSIDE! lol
Trolling mode off: Tell me, why i have to boycot motorola? Best materials, best signal strenght, best radio, best SoC. They relased sources, the opened a site wich in you can unlock the bootloader. Please explain.
(sorry for my terrible english)
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I watched this video and always figured that the host was more informed of behind the scene information then I was. So now am I to believe that what he says is not based on fact? Does anyone censor these video hosts to make sure what they say is actually based in reality? I always turn to the community here to decide if I should invest in a certain product or app. I read countless user reviews and listen to XDA developer TV to make a final buying decision. I think that people that are more in the public eye as representatives of the community should be accountable for the information the are allowed to share. I guess this host just has a lot of hot air based in fantasy? That's all I was commenting about, He must be very misinformed. Sad really. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7HrYgO6uP4&feature=relmfu

vvveith said:
I watched this video and always figured that the host was more informed of behind the scene information then I was. So now am I to believe that what he says is not based on fact? Does anyone censor these video hosts to make sure what they say is actually based in reality? I always turn to the community here to decide if I should invest in a certain product or app. I read countless user reviews and listen to XDA developer TV to make a final buying decision. I think that people that are more in the public eye as representatives of the community should be accountable for the information the are allowed to share. I guess this host just has a lot of hot air based in fantasy? That's all I was commenting about, He must be very misinformed. Sad really. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7HrYgO6uP4&feature=relmfu
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All the information he gave is public, so he's not any more informed than any of the rest of us. He's only more informed than those who don't follow tech news, and those people don't care and weren't going to boycott anyway. Also, all his information is not completely accurate. The $100 rebate is not only for Verizon customers. The list includes several phones that are not Verizon phones. You can verify that for yourself here.
Ultimately, though, he's not misinformed. Motorola did lock bootloaders, they did push updates to an even later date, and they did cancel the updates for a few phones. He just has a different reaction to the information than I, and many others, do. He believes we should boycott Motorola to get them to change. As somebody who has an avenue to get their opinion out there, of course he's going to put his opinion out there. Personally, I think boycotting Verizon would be a better solution, because it's pretty clear that they are 90% of the problem. The new RAZR M/i and RAZR HD are only locked down on Verizon. In every other country they've been released in, they are unlockable. Motorola really doesn't care if you unlock your bootloader or not, because if you do, they don't have to warranty your phone. Verizon, though, for whatever reason, does seem to care.
The truth is, there will never be a widespread boycott of either Motorola or Verizon for this issue. For a boycott to be effective, you have to have a very large number of people upset about something. The number of people upset about locked bootloaders and a lack of updates is pretty low in the grand scheme of things. Most customers have no idea what a bootloader even is, and couldn't care less if they got an update or not. Then there's the fact that Verizon sells far more than just Motorola devices, so even if every Verizon customer that was pissed about the Motorola devices decided to boycott Verizon, it still wouldn't be a majority of those 100+ million customers.

Thank you, Very WELL said!!
freak4dell said:
All the information he gave is public, so he's not any more informed than any of the rest of us. He's only more informed than those who don't follow tech news, and those people don't care and weren't going to boycott anyway. Also, all his information is not completely accurate. The $100 rebate is not only for Verizon customers. The list includes several phones that are not Verizon phones. You can verify that for yourself here.
Ultimately, though, he's not misinformed. Motorola did lock bootloaders, they did push updates to an even later date, and they did cancel the updates for a few phones. He just has a different reaction to the information than I, and many others, do. He believes we should boycott Motorola to get them to change. As somebody who has an avenue to get their opinion out there, of course he's going to put his opinion out there. Personally, I think boycotting Verizon would be a better solution, because it's pretty clear that they are 90% of the problem. The new RAZR M/i and RAZR HD are only locked down on Verizon. In every other country they've been released in, they are unlockable. Motorola really doesn't care if you unlock your bootloader or not, because if you do, they don't have to warranty your phone. Verizon, though, for whatever reason, does seem to care.
The truth is, there will never be a widespread boycott of either Motorola or Verizon for this issue. For a boycott to be effective, you have to have a very large number of people upset about something. The number of people upset about locked bootloaders and a lack of updates is pretty low in the grand scheme of things. Most customers have no idea what a bootloader even is, and couldn't care less if they got an update or not. Then there's the fact that Verizon sells far more than just Motorola devices, so even if every Verizon customer that was pissed about the Motorola devices decided to boycott Verizon, it still wouldn't be a majority of those 100+ million customers.
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Now that's some information I can rap my head around. However, let me add one thing that Verizon does seem to care about besides money: They are one of the only service providers I have found that blocks text scam premium service providers. I recently received a text from some supposed event notifications service that I did not solicit. I of course paid no attention to it and deleted the text off my phone. When I was about to pay my bill I noticed an irregularity in the amount. $9.99 charged for a monthly membership fee. After notifying T Mobile of the fraud, they credited my account and told me if I wanted to block such services that I had to pay them $9.99 a month to have that feature. Or I could accept a block on all messages that come through their premium text services for free. I opted for the second and all of my important financial institutions were than blocked as well. After doing research on the web I found millions of cases of this same thing and the only provider not to have any complaints about it was Verizon! I was thinking of switching over to them when my term with T Mobile ends. But now that you have informed me of something else, I guess I'll stay away from them as well. Any other information that you can share would be very much appreciated. I know that we actually vote with our cash so even though it seems like one person is a small amount of revenue that won't be missed, when millions of us make the same decision I believe it does have an impact. Who knows? I guess I'll renew with T Mobile because it seems like no matter which service provider you choose, there always will be some shady business practices going on. Guess you have to choice the least of two evils, kind of like voting for a president. To bad XDA does not have a mobile provider of it's own with it's own devices as well. LOL

vvveith said:
Now that's some information I can rap my head around. However, let me add one thing that Verizon does seem to care about besides money: They are one of the only service providers I have found that blocks text scam premium service providers. I recently received a text from some supposed event notifications service that I did not solicit. I of course paid no attention to it and deleted the text off my phone. When I was about to pay my bill I noticed an irregularity in the amount. $9.99 charged for a monthly membership fee. After notifying T Mobile of the fraud, they credited my account and told me if I wanted to block such services that I had to pay them $9.99 a month to have that feature. Or I could accept a block on all messages that come through their premium text services for free. I opted for the second and all of my important financial institutions were than blocked as well. After doing research on the web I found millions of cases of this same thing and the only provider not to have any complaints about it was Verizon! I was thinking of switching over to them when my term with T Mobile ends. But now that you have informed me of something else, I guess I'll stay away from them as well. Any other information that you can share would be very much appreciated. I know that we actually vote with our cash so even though it seems like one person is a small amount of revenue that won't be missed, when millions of us make the same decision I believe it does have an impact. Who knows? I guess I'll renew with T Mobile because it seems like no matter which service provider you choose, there always will be some shady business practices going on. Guess you have to choice the least of two evils, kind of like voting for a president. To bad XDA does not have a mobile provider of it's own with it's own devices as well. LOL
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Hmm...I didn't know that about T-Mobile's service. I have that block on my account, too, since I got a fraudulent $9.99 charge a couple months ago. I don't really subscribe to texts from many places, but it sucks if I don't have the ability to.

I had them unblock me again!
freak4dell said:
Hmm...I didn't know that about T-Mobile's service. I have that block on my account, too, since I got a fraudulent $9.99 charge a couple months ago. I don't really subscribe to texts from many places, but it sucks if I don't have the ability to.
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I now receive text from my financial institutions and was given these procedures to follow if I receive anymore unwanted texts. Forward a copy of the offending text to 7726 immediately followed by a blank text to 4647. That will permanently block the text sender and also get them investigated for legitimacy. So I guess it's a slight pain in the ass but I need to receive important information from my bank or credit institutions anytime there is activity so I can verify that it is me making the activity happen and is approved.

[PETITION] reverse cellphone unlocking ban as of 1/26/13

my fellow xda members, as of 1/26/13 unlocking cellphones in the US will be illegal. its sad to think congress actually passed this ban, but it seems to be the case.. if youd like to read more into what all this means, heres a good link you can read up on.
yeah, theres an actual unlocking section in the general area of xda, but if theres ever been a movement deserving of getting posted everywhere people will see, i cant think of a better cause. a petition has been raised on our governments official website. please sign, share, and spread the word. im sure xda members more than anyone else realize the negative effects, and huge step in the wrong direction this is for openness in not just the android community, but all mobile communities.
petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal

Good thing I'm in the UK, Congress need to reconsider the Anthem of the United States.
"Land of the Free"
"I can't unlock my Phone "

Poor US

TheCraig said:
Good thing I'm in the UK, Congress need to reconsider the Anthem of the United States.
"Land of the Free"
"I can't unlock my Phone "
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Why can't you unlock your phone? Call your provider, pay the fee (usually £15) and wall-ah 1 unlocked S3
Great result against Chelsea btw :laugh:
Sorry. Must learn to read the irony first time around

This isn't quite as bad as it sounds on the surface. Just to clarify, it will still be "legal" to root/jailbreak the phone (which of course is totally different than unlocking). And you will still be able to pay the full unsubsidized price for the phone and legally unlock it, or just buy an unlocked phone from the beginning - for example, I will still be able to use the unlocked Nexus 4 if I choose, and when the Galaxy S4 comes out, I will still be able to purchase the unlocked international version on Amazon (or wherever) and "legally" use it on compatible U.S. carriers. This new change in the law only applies to when you buy the much cheaper carrier-subsidized phone which locks you into a contract. Some carriers even release subsidized unlocked phones (such as the Verizon iPhone 5). Other carriers (e.g. AT&T) will let you unlock the phone when you're out of contract. In reality, unlocking smartphones in the U.S. doesn't buy you much anyway, due to the all the incompatibilities between the carriers. It's not like you can unlock an AT&T LTE phone and expect to use it on Verizon, or vice versa, due to incompatible LTE bands.
That being said, I'm not really in favor of this whole "can't unlock" thing, but just wanted to point out it's not as bad as it initially sounds.

Land of the free? Or land of the do what you are told by corporations?
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The main issue people have with this is you are now FORCED to pay extortionate international charges. If I want to make an international call I can just throw a sim in for cheap international calls, if I go abroad I can throw another sim in to avoid paying to receive calls.
All reasons to unlock.
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Painman1963 said:
Why can't you unlock your phone? Call your provider, pay the fee (usually £15) and wall-ah 1 unlocked S3
Great result against Chelsea btw :laugh:
Sorry. Must learn to read the irony first time around
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Thank you, it was a great game!
I buy unlocked phones anyway but this is kind of stupid to make it illegal.

Over 100,000 Signatures Completed!
Over 100,000 Signatures met! Hope this ban is removed or I will need to close that business
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-From another small business owner in the US getting screwed by our beloved government but on an unlocked Evo Running Solstice Rom with Samsung Galaxy Tablet Spoof by me

Latest news from US:
Two workers of superstore arrested after unlocking the box of Apples without the license.
The State Court of Louisiana in the sentence sent both for 5x lifetime to jail, stating that such act of piracy should be pursued and punished by the full force of the US Law.
The box itself was confiscated and destroyed because it had the round corner, what was additional violation of the Apple's patent in US.

Welcome to the NWO of Corporate Fascism. Heil The Rothschild's and the Round Table of the Sovereign State of The City of London. Can you guess the other two sovereign states of power? District of Columbia and Vatican City.
I suggest the following movies to get accustomed. Brazil, A Brave New World, 1984, They are Watching, Logans Run and Minority Report.
Pre crime is coming Obama is onto it with big pharm already! They shall probably call it the Sandy gene and put people with it in FEMA camps.
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Disregard.

U.S: Its Illegal to Unlock Smartphones

Hi guys, just saw this news concerning our U.S pals:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2013/01/the-most-ridiculous-law-of-2013-so-far-it-is-now-a-crime-to-unlock-your-smartphone/272552/
At least its not unlocking the bootloader that's illegal. You'll just have to be a bit more careful for your next phones dear Americans

There are an simple solution, use non carrier phones.
Galaxy powered by GM and Dorimanx.

Simple....but unlocked phones are sold at 1000%+ mark up to intentionally drive people to the carrier subsidized phones
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Price
I wonder what this will do to the orice of unlocked phones on the internet, maybe we can benifit from price drops, what do u guys think?

For a short time I'm sure popular models that are already unlocked will sell at a premium used but since the tech moves so fast it won't be long before phones like the the Nexus 4 and newer cheap(er) pre-unlocked phones drive down that price.
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https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/make-unlocking-cell-phones-legal/1g9KhZG7
Check this link out to sign the petition and pass it on

lol, like people in America give a crap what the government says. I'm sure we can count on service providers to police the issue though.
I think I'll unlock one of my old crap phones just to make a point. XD, SCREW EM

Illegal to Unlock - Direct Action
Heard about the decision to allow AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon, Sprint, etc. to hold your own cellular device hostage?
Here's a link: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2012-10-26/html/2012-26308.htm
Let's all write Jacqueline C. Charlesworth, Senior Counsel to the Register of Copyrights, Office of the Register of Copyrights, at [email protected] and/or Christopher S. Reed, Senior Advisor for Policy & Special Projects, Office of the Register of Copyrights, email at [email protected]; or call the U.S. Copyright Office by phone at 202-707-8350 just to tell them what we think of this decision.

Good luck Americans, just sharing. Just don't screw up some point in the future lol. Its still kinda new, they might go all Terminator on you guys for reasons yet unknown hahah

This is the same government that gave a company patents for a rectangular black phone and a rectangular white phone so nothing surprises me

isn't this only true for new phones? as in if you already unlocked it, it doesn't matter?

pinyata said:
isn't this only true for new phones? as in if you already unlocked it, it doesn't matter?
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Correct. It only applies to phones purchased after the rule went into effect.

Come on guys move up to Canada it's not THAT cold here!

But being from the southeast, I'd really be confused by all of the 'eh' and references to hockey!
Besides, where would I get my sweet tea and grits? I get up past Tennessee and people look at me funny when I ask for sugar with my iced tea....

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Correct. It only applies to phones purchased after the rule went into effect.
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I may be wrong ( good chance I am) but I believe this is for new phones that are bought discounted for new contract or extension since in a way until that contract is up the carrier owns that phone. Just like you don't own your home until your mortgage is paid off. Not saying I agree with the new law in any way.

If the owner is willing, they're allowed to call up their carrier and ask for the unlock code. As long as the person you buy from doesn't care and has had the phone for a while, there's no problem.

I don't think it's illegal, but you will certainly avoid your warranty.

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I don't think it's illegal, but you will certainly avoid your warranty.
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I think so too. Nobody will be punished for that. I guess the police have better things to do.
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I've downloaded so much music illegally so idgaf about how illegal it is unlock a phone. Done
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severinca said:
I've downloaded so much music illegally so idgaf about how illegal it is unlock a phone. Done
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Not exactly something to brag about...

SIM unlock: iPhone vs. SG4 - and the winner is...

...iPhone by the 1000 miles.
Well, before the fan boys start throwing feces at me, here is the story.
I know that it is different hardware and OS and all that, but the problem is not in this.
The problem is the way Apple and Samsung approach the demands from the carriers to lock down their devices and how is the unlocking process handled.
So to SIM unlock the iPhone you call Sprint Customer Service (SCC) and after usual crap about 90 days they say, ok we submitted the request to unlock to Apple you should receive an e-mail shortly. In about 30 minutes the e-mail comes where it instructs you to backup-factory-reset-restore your iPhone. You do that, and that's it. It is unlocked for _ALL_ GSM carriers, foreign and domestic alike.
It is that simple.
Now to SIM unlock the SG4 you call SCC and after usual crap about 90 days you are told that your phone is unlocked, and it will magically work when you abroad but there is absolutely no way for you to see if it works with a foreign SIM while you are in the US. Moreover there is absolutely no way you can use it with any of the US GSM carriers. Most likely when you finally get abroad it will still not work.
Pain and disappointment.
So what happened here?
The answer is simple, Apple gives a middle finger to all carriers who ask it to give them control over the device. Have you seen any bloatware from Sprint, Verizon, ATT or TMO on the iPhone? No!
The Samsung, on the other hand, bands over backwards for carriers and it turns everything in to the theater of the absurd.
One would think: "...well if Sprint made Samsung to lock down the device in a certain way they must be able to ask Samsung to do the SIM unlock"; nop, no such luck, the SCC will tell you that Samsung has nothing to do with this and at Samsung they will tell you to go to your carrier.
Ok, fine, then apparently if this is the OS modification made by Sprint, one would try to reason: "...the SCC must have some internal tool to unlock the device and check that it is unlocked"; well this is also not the case.
What Sprint is obviously happy about is that they bravely disallowed you to use local GSM carriers.
So it is an interesting situation, actually Samsung and Sprint are equally to be blamed for our pain with SIM unlock and non will take a blame.
I'm pretty sure the ATT and TMO customers just laughing at us right about now the SG4 on their networks can be unlocked with a simple app from the market or even with some service menu.
There was a guy from SCC here, or so he claimed, it would be nice if he could comment on this, and given something more of an answer than just: "...well those are different devices and different OS". Who's really doing the unlocking? Is it Sprint is it Samsung? Why are there no tools to check this on the phone? Why the phone says "Invalid SIM" when it was "unlocked" while it should just refuse to connect to ATT and TMO while here in the US?
Well, I'm pretty sure those are the questions that we never get answers to...

Yea, I agree that it sucks the way things are right now and I wish it wasn't so. Hopefully, Samsung will continuebto be so successful that in the next round (S5), they too can give the middle finger to the carriers and end the unlocking lunacy.

Please explain to me how you got your iphone unlocked for domestic use. I got my old one unlocked by sprint did everything and still had to buy a rsim to use it in the states.
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optimummind said:
Yea, I agree that it sucks the way things are right now and I wish it wasn't so. Hopefully, Samsung will continuebto be so successful that in the next round (S5), they too can give the middle finger to the carriers and end the unlocking lunacy.
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Yeah, I hope so too. For my Samsung Galaxy Discover (s730m) that I got because my Samsung Galaxy Q ( T589r ) has a cracked screen , I tried phoning Telus & Fido to get it unlocked..neither of them would do anything..if Samsung were to do this so that I could just ask Samsung, that'd be very great, and I'd be able to use my new phone. :/

I'll be nice so I won't call troll. TL;DR. If your intention was to run a phone on gsm, why would you buy a CDMA phone? As for bringing up the subject of why a iPhone is better in an android forum, what the hell are you doing here?! We don't care if you think iPhone is better! Go elsewhere and post to people that actually agree with your point of view. Sorry for being so blunt, I've had a few... Still, the few months I had an iPhone, before I had sprint buy it back because I hated the apple experience, I didn't go on apple forums and spout how android was so much better. I may have honestly shared my experience but I didn't do it in a way that rubbed smugness in other people's face. I'm sorry that I'm coming across like I'm flaming you but, in all reasonableness, this isn't the place to do it.

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I'll be nice so I won't call troll. TL;DR. If your intention was to run a phone on gsm, why would you buy a CDMA phone? As for bringing up the subject of why a iPhone is better in an android forum, what the hell are you doing here?! We don't care if you think iPhone is better! Go elsewhere and post to people that actually agree with your point of view. Sorry for being so blunt, I've had a few... Still, the few months I had an iPhone, before I had sprint buy it back because I hated the apple experience, I didn't go on apple forums and spout how android was so much better. I may have honestly shared my experience but I didn't do it in a way that rubbed smugness in other people's face. I'm sorry that I'm coming across like I'm flaming you but, in all reasonableness, this isn't the place to do it.
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Prob because he has nothing better to do other than play angry birds on that lil 4 inch screen, isn't that all its capable of?
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The title was intentionally provocative, because I'm really pissed with the way things going with sg4 sprint sim unlocking process. I'm not an iPhone user though, I have and use sg4, but I need to be able to use it on my trips overseas, this is why I bought it in the first place, because it is a world phone, or at least it is advertised as such. This was my attempt to analyze why this whole sim unlocking for sg4 is a outright failure.

obender said:
The title was intentionally provocative, because I'm really pissed with the way things going with sg4 sprint sim unlocking process. I'm not an iPhone user though, I have and use sg4, but I need to be able to use it on my trips overseas, this is why I bought it in the first place, because it is a world phone, or at least it is advertised as such. This was my attempt to analyze why this whole sim unlocking for sg4 is a outright failure.
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Two things then...
If you need it for overseas trips then what's all the hoopla about? Just get it unlocked by Sprint. Yes, at the beginning they had issues with the unlock because it is a brand new process they've never used before (and yes, unfortunately very unprepared for). But now supposedly it's fixed so chill.
It is not true that Sprint's iPhone unlocking process makes it usable on US GSM carriers.
Anyway, I am not sure why you claim that "the iPhone beats the S4 by a 1000 miles". Sprint gives you a method to unlock both phones for international use so that you don't have pay their exorbitant intl roaming rates. That seems fair to me and I don't see what obligation they (or even Samsung) have towards you as a Sprint subscriber beyond that. If you want a device that will work on one of Sprint's domestic competitors, go buy an unlock phone, or one from one of those carriers.

myphone12345 said:
It is not true that Sprint's iPhone unlocking process makes it usable on US GSM carriers.
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You obviously don't know the subject that well, it is true, I've unlocked my wife's iPhone and it works roams to ATT and TMO now with a _foreign_ SIM inserted, but you right, what I care is the outside US use and this is still an issue unfortunately.

obender said:
You obviously don't know the subject that well, it is true, I've unlocked my wife's iPhone and it works roams to ATT and TMO now with a _foreign_ SIM inserted, but you right, what I care is the outside US use and this is still an issue unfortunately.
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I'm in the same boat.
When I get back to the states I will be perma-roaming 24/7 in order to get the service termination letter.

ehaalandtluk said:
I'm in the same boat.
When I get back to the states I will be perma-roaming 24/7 in order to get the service termination letter.
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Are you saying that u unlocked with sprint and traveled overseas to only find your are screwed and can't use your sg4?
That's why I upgraded to be able to use when go to home country. Might look into htc.
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galexandr said:
Are you saying that u unlocked with sprint and traveled overseas to only find your are screwed and can't use your sg4?
That's why I upgraded to be able to use when go to home country. Might look into htc.
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Yes, precisely.
Nah, I don't want to buy another HTC phone after what they did with the EVO 3D. Samsung has a great phone, I just don't like sprint at all.