I know this is *way* too early to get any real responses, but I wanted to throw this out anyway and keep it in the back of peoples' minds:
Do we know anything about this phone's support for Isis or Google Wallet (NFC tap-to-pay, not just the universal app)? Seeing as it's a Verizon flagship phone, it seems like it should at least support Isis, but I haven't been able to find any info at all.
Anyone have an inside lead?
Verizon threw all of their support behind Isis so that they can sell the tech to business. Don't expect google wallet wout root.
soupaloup said:
Verizon threw all of their support behind Isis so that they can sell the tech to business. Don't expect google wallet wout root.
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From my understanding Wallet is now a universal app, regardless of phone/carrier. Having said that, the NFC capabilities of the app might get blocked by verizon... but it's somewhat doubtful. It's like VZW trying to block PayPal from their appstore.
lchupacabras said:
From my understanding Wallet is now a universal app, regardless of phone/carrier. Having said that, the NFC capabilities of the app might get blocked by verizon... but it's somewhat doubtful. It's like VZW trying to block PayPal from their appstore.
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See, that's what I thought: now that Wallet is a universal app, the NFC tap-to-pay features should just work. However, I went to a T-Mobile store with a demo Note 3 and installed Wallet just to check, and the tap-to-pay feature wasn't accessible. It didn't even give me the option to add a card. It seems likely that the Verizon version will behave similarly.
Interestingly, though, I was able to download Isis on the demo unit. I wasn't able to activate it, seeing as it didn't have the proper SE-enabled SIM card, but it seems to suggest that the Verizon version will also support Isis, even though their website doesn't list it as an Isis-ready phone.
Do we even know if the Note 3 has an embedded Secure Element? Given Samsung's track record, I've got to believe that it does, but I haven't found any info at all.
lchupacabras said:
From my understanding Wallet is now a universal app, regardless of phone/carrier. Having said that, the NFC capabilities of the app might get blocked by verizon... but it's somewhat doubtful. It's like VZW trying to block PayPal from their appstore.
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Never put anything past verizon. The ability to custom rom a phone is a universal google thing, but verizon blocks the bootloader...
So, after poking around the other GN3 forums, I found this on the T-Mobile forum:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2466990&page=4
Looks like the Note 3 *does* have all the hardware required to run Google Wallet, there are just carrier cripples in place to prevent us from using it. What else is new? Anyway, seems hopeful that we might get it, once we get root and can modify the build.prop and the nfcee_access.xml files. And as we all know, Wallet is vastly preferable to Isis.
According to VZW support the phones will come equipped with nfc sim cards.. which directly indicate that ISIS will be implemented on the sim itself...
As it is currently with Verizon, Isis uses the secure element in the nfc sim, not on the phone. Google wallet,bump an pay is not enabled at least for. Verizon phones...
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I just installed Google Wallet and installed with no problems. I haven't tried it yet though. I'll report back when I get to use it.
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Well...I'll answer my own question:
ISIS definitely works. Paid for a Jamba Juice with it this afternoon. It's a piece of crap app, but it works
Google Wallet downloads, but does not include the tap-to-pay feature by default.
I'd still like to see if Wallet could get ported to the Note 3. Maybe use the Sprint version? It's just so much better than ISIS...
Yes isis installs and accesses the secure element that big V said they won't allow! Funny isis is allowed to access the secure element but Google wallet isn't allowed. Finally I think there can be something done cause now they are doing the exact same thing Google wallet does but now can be proven they are blocking it.
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Also if you don't use chase or American express your out of luck with isis. At least Google you can use any card.
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ISIS does not use the phone's secure element. It uses the SE SIM.
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How are you guys getting this to work... I get this
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Did you use the factory installed SIM card? I believe the NFC works through the SIM card now. At least that is my understanding from a few posts I've read...
I just used my Sim from my gnex
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I got Isis all set up on my phone but when I launch it, it just quits after being at first launch screen for a few seconds.
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billymaloney3 said:
I just used my Sim from my gnex
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That may be your problem then. You might be able to activate the factory SIM online or you might have to call VZW to do it. These SIM cards have the secure element inside of them.
dts242 said:
ISIS does not use the phone's secure element. It uses the SE SIM.
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Well I using my sim from my note 2 which was a normal sim no secure element. Don't know how it attached to the secure element then.
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Hey anyone able to download the latest Nov 14, 2013 version of the Verizon ISIS mobile wallet app? I have some side loaded version of ISIS and it works just fine! But why is the note 3 Verizon model NOT SUPPORTED? This is just a stigma associated with android devices, no one has an answer for anything!
I have the SE SIM installed, and the isis app < 2.0 version does work just fine. I don't care about the 1star reviews complaining about how google wallet is not supported, I don't care about that - I just would like to know anyone able to side load an AT&T isis wallet app in the verizon note 3?
is google wallet working with Verizon Note 3?
Last i checked on Google Wallet on this forum, they mentioned its still not working on Verizon Note 3.
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Do you know if the Razr M is compatible with Google Wallet?
If yes, any ideas on how to install it?
Thanks!
C.
Nope, no NFC so no Google wallet
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Nope, no NFC so no Google wallet
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But the Razr M does have NFC. Verizon just blocks Google Wallet. Would be great to get it on the phone, though.
PDFierro said:
But the Razr M does have NFC. Verizon just blocks Google Wallet. Would be great to get it on the phone, though.
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This is a very good phone, probably one of the best for this "smaller" size, I don't understand why Verizon has to mess around with it (starting with the installed bloatware that can't be remove).
I guess this phone also comes with a locked bootloader, this means that you won't be able to change anything.... am I right?
Thanks!
C.
Yes, the retail version has a locked bootloader. The Developer Edition has an unlockable bootloader.
connor32 said:
This is a very good phone, probably one of the best for this "smaller" size, I don't understand why Verizon has to mess around with it (starting with the installed bloatware that can't be remove)...
C.
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While you cannot remove the bloatware, you can disable (freeze) most of it. Go to Settings, Apps, then into each app to disable it.
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Oh wow I thought I saw in a review it didn't that's awesome! What we have to do is change the build. Prop file to be a different phone then SideLoad it and set it up then you can switch back to your original build. Prop. Maybe if you made it a Razr i or something?
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I believe Verizon is blocking Wallet Bea cause of their own NFC payment app called Isis. It's a multi carrier endeavor. Supposedly launches soon.
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I miss Google wallet ! Anyone who had it and came to Verizon has to feel the same way. Matter of fact I lost my champs reward card but was fine,because I had my wallet. Anyway I've had my RAZR for quite some time and am baffled at the lengths Verizon went to to block wallet. I tried to side load it from a NS4G and a Samsung intercept, it's not possible.
1. Does anyone no what physically limits it?
2. Is there a way to have it functioning on out phone?
3. How is Verizon allowed to do this?
I refuse to use ISIS for any reason. And just want my wallet back.
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bee mcfly said:
I miss Google wallet ! Anyone who had it and came to Verizon has to feel the same way. Matter of fact I lost my champs reward card but was fine,because I had my wallet. Anyway I've had my RAZR for quite some time and am baffled at the lengths Verizon went to to block wallet. I tried to side load it from a NS4G and a Samsung intercept, it's not possible.
1. Does anyone no what physically limits it?
2. Is there a way to have it functioning on out phone?
3. How is Verizon allowed to do this?
I refuse to use ISIS for any reason. And just want my wallet back.
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Why do you refuse to use ISIS ? It's similar to Wallet. At least you HAVE an option/choice, unlike a lot of us that don't have either.
I would say that he would refuse to use isis because it isn't available in nearly as many locations as Google wallet is.
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I refuse to use Isis because yes its less available and also it's a principle thing. I see that as giving in. Might I ask how you don't have an option @ all ?
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I have a Nexus 4 currently. If I pop in a T-Mobile prepaid SIM card, will I be able to freely use Google Wallet (freely as in just download and update from Play Store, no sideloading and other stuff)?
I've heard recently that T-Mobile blocks the use of Google Wallet; wasn't sure if it was a device-specific block, or overall carrier block.
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I have a Nexus 4 currently. If I pop in a T-Mobile prepaid SIM card, will I be able to freely use Google Wallet (freely as in just download and update from Play Store, no sideloading and other stuff)?
I've heard recently that T-Mobile blocks the use of Google Wallet; wasn't sure if it was a device-specific block, or overall carrier block.
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Yeah it will work. It works just fine for me.
Works fine for me as well.
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That is not true at all! It woks just fine!!!
I used Google wallet on my galaxy nexus and now on my nexus 4 on tmoblile's network with no problem.
Mabie you misunderstood and they don't preinstall it on their phones. In which case I'm sure there is a .apk file for it out there somewhere.
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Works fine for me especially with NFC!
It will work fine. Just make sure you don't get a tmobile sim with isis on it. That will block Google wallet
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Is Verizon that blocks Wallet, not T-Mobile.
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Is Verizon that blocks Wallet, not T-Mobile.
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That's not true either, I've had coworkers with the Verizon Samsung galaxy nexus and Google Wallet worked for then.
Like i said earlier, it is more likely that the carrier or manufacturer removed it from the stock ROM. In which case if your phone supports NFC you can install Google wallet from the play store or get a .APK file. I'm pretty sure there is one here on XDA somewhere.
Remember NCF is still an emerging technology. However most high end android phones manufactured within the past year ( such as the galaxy S3 and S4) have an NFC chip.
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That's not true either, I've had coworkers with the Verizon Samsung galaxy nexus and Google Wallet worked for then.
Like i said earlier, it is more likely that the carrier or manufacturer removed it from the stock ROM. In which case if your phone supports NFC you can install Google wallet from the play store or get a .APK file. I'm pretty sure there is one here on XDA somewhere.
Remember NCF is still an emerging technology. However most high end android phones manufactured within the past year ( such as the galaxy S3 and S4) have an NFC chip.
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Verizon has requested google block access to downloading Google Wallet from the Play Store, but if you sideload Wallet it will work.
Don't need to sideload Wallet, you can just get it from the Play Store. No tricks or hacks needed.
Just make sure that your TMo SIM isn't a ISIS SIM card (google on how to see if its a ISIS sim card)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...nb29nbGUuYW5kcm9pZC5hcHBzLndhbGxldG5mY3JlbCJd
I've been really digging for a modded google wallet for the note 3 that allows use of nfc. The S4 guys have a modded flashable wallet and I thought why the hell I'll try and needless to say that broke NFC and made the phone pretty unusable.
Has there been any promising or working work around I may have missed from other device forums
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From what I read it can't be done because of the way Verizon has the nfc/secure element on the sim. My reason might be off but I know I read it cant be done. Isis works as an acceptable replacement
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I've been really digging for a modded google wallet for the note 3 that allows use of nfc. The S4 guys have a modded flashable wallet and I thought why the hell I'll try and needless to say that broke NFC and made the phone pretty unusable.
Has there been any promising or working work around I may have missed from other device forums
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Isis doesn't work on rooted devices.
popi09 said:
Isis doesn't work on rooted devices.
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Yes it does.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2482708
Does anyone have the corrwct apk? It's not compatible in Google play anymore with the N3. One Verizon rep told me the other day it was.
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Possible solution
Unless the device is running 4.4 or CM 9/ 10.1 , the Note won't have the required NFC libraries to allow for HCE. Rooting doesn't rellay make any difference as the libraries were needed at the time of compiling the image file.
Hope this helps
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Anyone know if Google Wallet will work on the S5? Predictions? I see they are advertising Isis with the S5 on Verizon.
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No.. Google wallet does not works on S5
Yes, Wallet Works
I installed Wallet from the play store and it asked me if I would like to replace ISIS as my Tap and Pay, and I said yes. It is working.:laugh:
Possibly working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2713821
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Possibly working
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2713821
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How it's possible ? I have used mega s5.. is it possible for it ?
I think its not working i saw some people asking it on the site.
Used it few times today
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Its working just download from play store . I did last nite works fine
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Same here works
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Google made changes to Wallet so that it will run, but only on KitKat devices.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/14/google-wallets-tap-to-pay-feature-will-require-android-4-4-kitk/
I believe this was to go around Verizon's blocking of Wallet in order to force ISIS on us.
jpinsl said:
Google made changes to Wallet so that it will run, but only on KitKat devices.
http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/14/google-wallets-tap-to-pay-feature-will-require-android-4-4-kitk/
I believe this was to go around Verizon's blocking of Wallet in order to force ISIS on us.
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Is there a big difference between wallet and isis?
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Google Wallet works without a hitch.
Also i dont know if there is to much difference between ISIS and GW. but then again for some reason ISIS has never really worked for me.
aurkachra said:
Google Wallet works without a hitch.
Also i dont know if there is to much difference between ISIS and GW. but then again for some reason ISIS has never really worked for me.
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Also can confirm you are free and clear to use it. I downloaded Wallet from the play store, installed and it setup in a few mins.
Also it does replace ISIS as the default payment app. Go Google!
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Is there a big difference between wallet and isis?
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Yes.
Google Wallet allows any of my cards to be used. Isis limits it to American Express cards for the most part and it seems to be accepted in a lot less places than Google Wallet. I currently have both on my phone though, cause isis gives you free purchases of up to 5 dollars at a vending machine after 4 tap to pay purchases. (I work at Verizon Wireless I am constantly hitting the machine for bottled water)