Hey,
I am looking for a solution for streaming my music from my pc to my S4. My criteria is that I have to be able to access it from anywhere i.e. not on the same wifi network, I need it to be secure, and I would prefer not to have to upload all of my music to a cloud. I also want to be able to directly stream from the server. Does anyone know of a good solution for this? I would be willing to pay a reasonable price if it has all that I need but of course free is better . Thanks.
well.. I question if you know what that entails. to directly stream music you have on your computer to your phone, would require your computer to be constantly on and it constantly be connected to the Internet at all times, always having a server running in the background. which; in the end is essentially what Google music does for you. the difference being instead of YOU constantly using up all of your own computers resources and network to keep your server running at all times, Google uses ITS (much more powerful, stable, reliable, and polished) servers to keep up that 24/7/365 readily available monster fast connection to fulfil that service for you, letting your internet be freed up, and your computer do something OTHER host a music server 24/7 never shutting your computer down..
you know you can set Google music to just run quietly in the background never doing anything unless you drop music off in your normal Windows 'Music' folder, right? then it syncs it real quick in the background without you ever knowing it happened.
still, if you want to do it yourself, VLC has plug-ins to do so, just make sure VLC never shuts down, and your computer never turns off or sleeps, you may want to upgrade your internet cause upload speeds on most home networks are small, and you probably won't be able to do much else on it, consider 2 home networks, and possibly another computer to actually USE, that hasn't dedicated it's life to being a Google Music replacement, then you can use one of the VLC remote apps from the market to strem your music.
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well.. I question if you know what that entails. to directly stream music you have on your computer to your phone, would require your computer to be constantly on and it constantly be connected to the Internet at all times, always having a server running in the background. which; in the end is essentially what Google music does for you. the difference being instead of YOU constantly using up all of your own computers resources and network to keep your server running at all times, Google uses ITS (much more powerful, stable, reliable, and polished) servers to keep up that 24/7/365 readily available monster fast connection to fulfil that service for you, letting your internet be freed up, and your computer do something OTHER host a music server 24/7 never shutting your computer down..
you know you can set Google music to just run quietly in the background never doing anything unless you drop music off in your normal Windows 'Music' folder, right? then it syncs it real quick in the background without you ever knowing it happened.
still, if you want to do it yourself, VLC has plug-ins to do so, just make sure VLC never shuts down, and your computer never turns off or sleeps, you may want to upgrade your internet cause upload speeds on most home networks are small, and you probably won't be able to do much else on it, consider 2 home networks, and possibly another computer to actually USE, that hasn't dedicated it's life to being a Google Music replacement, then you can use one of the VLC remote apps from the market to strem your music.
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Well, my computer is already almost always on and connected to the internet, so that isn't an issue. As far as Google Music that is specifically what I don't want to do (upload all of my music to a remote server) I'll check out VLC's plugins since I already have VLC player and see if that's what I'm looking for. Thanks.
I found a program called Tonido that let's me do what I need
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I haven't found anything on here for Orb. Doesn't anyone use it? It is so useful on winmo (specially the diamond with only 4 gb of internal storage) and it would be even better on the G1.
Supposedly orb says it works, can anyone here get it to work on 3G? It works if you are connected to your own personal wifi, but when you connect to someone elses (or 3G) you get an error.
Are you using the orb website?
And is your computer open on the right ports?
I am going through orb.com on my g1. I never changed anything on my computer. It was working fine with my sprint diamond, and even worked somewhat OK with my sprint instinct, but not with this g1 I can't get anything to stream via 3G.
Have no idea about ports and stuff. I know that orb gave a link to some sort of complicated thread about changing stuff, I didn't want to get all technical until I find out that is the only method.
I tried changing formats and speeds but nuttin.
It may be the new t-mobile settings they are now redirecting images on the data connections to compress them... maybe for audio too?
I am able to browse my orb page, but when I try to stream video I am unable to open the feed with anything. It worked great with my tilt even t-mobile's edge. If somebody is watching tv using orb on their g1, give everyone some idea as to how you are using it. What type of feed are you using there are a few, I figure it has to be one of the 3 .3gp streams. Will play with it again when I get home.
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Manny
It's probably a problem with not forwarding ports. I'll look into it.
I have it working on my setup... I am using Video Player and that is what picked up the movie...
Also audio plays as well going through the music player.
I am not seeing any issues I suspect they are with your computer or internet connection. I have my computer set up in a way that allows all ports to be forwarded in and out... This is part of my speciality so of course I know exactly what I am doing so I can do it but I don't suggest everyone to do it.
The other thing is if your connections up speed (smaller of two numbers normally) is low you will have issues. Because of the 3G being faster than edge it may have issues. I would suggest checking issues with your network speed while on the orb page.
What is the stream type? Flash? WMV...what? The video player launches on mine but it states the format is not supported. Can someone look into their Settings and post results? Thanks.
Its great over wifi. Doesn't stream videos well over 3G. Audio is fine though.
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I have my computer set up in a way that allows all ports to be forwarded in and out... This is part of my speciality so of course I know exactly what I am doing so I can do it but I don't suggest everyone to do it.
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Your speciality? I didn't know that 30 seconds in a router took that much skill...
I have it set up a little differently LOL not just your normal NAT or DMZ style, I actually have a business line to my house for my job and I keep my work computer and my personal computer on seperate networks and the server has a seperate IP as well that is connected to both networks. Like I said I know what I am doing been in the business for quite some time and this is what I do for a living. I don't have any firewalls on the server it is completely open... but I don't think you will be getting in any time soon HEHE.
On the codec side... I have to check other videos to see if they work because the video I streamed was meant to play on the G1... but the codec is 3gp-aac/rtsp format
All videos work at that codec... makes it easier to watch videos now LOL
Mine works pretty well over wifi and network. I think what had happened to me was when I first tried testing it there wasn't a video app yet and I didn't bother to try it again until now. Back when I first got the phone. 3gp-aac/rtsp stream works for me, every once in a while it does tell me it can't play a video, but if I restart the stream it work.
I can connect and get my picture and music files but I can't get video or TV...I'm thinking it has to be something with the stream settings because I have a video that plays off my SD card but wont play when I try connecting through orb to same video file on my computer. What speed do you recommend? Can we stream TV at this point or is that out because of limited file formats?
Orb working for me
Orb is working just fine for me. Audio, video, everything. The only issue I have is when my phone switches from 3g to edge at work, it comes up and says that I can't play the video. I then restart from the same point, and it works fine. I just had to forward my ports.
port forwarding huh? Mind posting a link to for a step by step?
Port Forwarding Instructions
http://support.orb.com/kb/entry/121
www.portforward.com
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but I don't think you will be getting in any time soon HEHE.
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How exactly would you stop 0day exploits without a firewall? Or do you just pretend those don't exist... ?
My server acts not only as a server but a router as well... it doesn't have a conventional firewall. I worked for a security company that looks at all incoming traffic and can route and block traffic that looks malicious. It is not a firewall it is a routing program in itself. This runs on my main server that can route to Network A, B, or C. As I said I do this for a living my garage is a "server farm" or as good as it can be for residential.
I have not had any attacks in over 3 years... I think I am doing pretty good.
I have used orb with my G1 and 3G and it streamed sirius just fine. that was with usirius as well, also it was with original rc now I am at 30 it may not work havent tried it yet
Is there a reliable RDP client to remotely connect to a windows machine for android? I saw a few in the market, most of them are kind of expensive and was wondering if anyone has a input on this.
Thanks.
The app called RemoteRDP works great. The only issue I have run into is occasionally running out of memory when using higher resolutions. I am able to access several Windows 7 machines on the LAN and through an internet connection (behind a router).
Because of the phone's hardware the speed isn't amazing (Especially over 3g of course), and I turn off the option to stream the sound to help minimize lag. You won't be able to watch your slingbox through it (choppy), but you can complete tasks and even copy files to your phone's sd card.
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The app called RemoteRDP works great. The only issue I have run into is occasionally running out of memory when using higher resolutions. I am able to access several Windows 7 machines on the LAN and through an internet connection (behind a router).
Because of the phone's hardware the speed isn't amazing (Especially over 3g of course), and I turn off the option to stream the sound to help minimize lag. You won't be able to watch your slingbox through it (choppy), but you can complete tasks and even copy files to your phone's sd card.
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Yeah I was actually looking for software where I could stream my audio library to the Hero, kind of like Orb I guess but not Orb.
Yeah, it is too choppy to work for streaming audio/music...especially over 3g.
Actually, Im surprised how well orb works, I just checked it out for the first time. Only thing that sucks is that it will play in the background but has no taskbar icon and pretty much has to reload every time
Edit: I spoke to soon. It takes for ever to enumerate the contents of my library and half the time says no content found. Im assuming its timing out.
Edit 2: It appears to be indexing my contents, maybe once that completes it will work decent.
@tipharet keep us updated. I'm interested as I only have a 2gig card
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@tipharet keep us updated. I'm interested as I only have a 2gig card
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FYI, 8gb class 6 micro SD cards are down to $20.. http://www.amazon.com/Transcend-Class-microSDHC-Memory-TS8GUSDHC6/dp/B001IAMME8
Use "Gmote" to stream mp3s...
It's a wifi mouse/music controller, and over 3G will allow you to browse your computer's mp3s and stream them. Works GREAT... You'll have to forward port 8889 on your router to your PCs local IP though. I think its 8889. Maybe 8881... Can't remember.
Get SubSonic for your pc/mac/linux. setup the service, and install subsonic on your phone.
WORKS FANTASTIC!
All you music streamed and full bitrate (or less if you choose) and it transcodes on the fly so it works with ALL file extensions. google that ****! lol
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Use "Gmote" to stream mp3s...
It's a wifi mouse/music controller, and over 3G will allow you to browse your computer's mp3s and stream them. Works GREAT... You'll have to forward port 8889 on your router to your PCs local IP though. I think its 8889. Maybe 8881... Can't remember.
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It has been awhile since I've used Gmote. Before it didn't allow streaming to play the phone, or at least I didn't remember that it did. The music streaming works great!
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@tipharet keep us updated. I'm interested as I only have a 2gig card
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Within a LAN, Orb works pretty great. Bitrate stays the same and I even was able to play FLAC!
On 3g, I am not sure yet, but I dont think Ill really use it outside of my home network a lot.
Ill give the other a go later.
I must have missed this thread a couple of days ago.
I picked up PhoneMyPC. I think it was about $10 or so. An app runs on the PC and on the phone to display the screens. No sound support, but it works quite well. I used it while on vacation to email myself files, check a webcam, and enable internet access for my house sitter while I was out of country.
I've been impressed with it so far, mostly because it's fast and easy.
Is anybody else experiencing pretty slow wireless transfers? I'm unsure whether it's just Samba on the Nexus 7 or what. I tried on two different LANs and both experience the same type of behavior. I'm toying around with a few different apps because I want to find a way to back up my tablet utilizing some sort of synchronize utility. That way I come home, open the app, hit sync, and bingo bango - done. Or else run a profile through Tasker so when I'm on my home wifi it sync's everything accordingly.
Problem is the transfer speed is just that braindead agonizingly slow it makes synching anything useless. 96 KB/s? Really? I left my Nexus run all night and I still woke up with it saying 15 hours remaining, and that was excluding music/videos/movie folders too...
I looked into rsync for Android, but I can't get it to connect quite yet. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Linux, rsync, and SSH keys are all familiar territory to me. I'll look into it a bit more, but even still, I find it mind boggling my speeds are this crazy slow with transferring over wifi via Samba.
Has anybody seen anything else like this? Or perhaps does anybody have an app that they use for wirelessly synchronizing their device in a backup fashion that they had better luck with?
I'm experiencing this problem too. Everything on Google Play, for example, is downloading very slow (4MB in more than 2 minutes sometimes) and the webpages are loading very slow. Everything is working very fast on my N7, excepting the internet. I explored many apps, but I didn't find a good one.
Can anyone explain to me why tethering uses more data? I am replacing my head unit in my car with a Nexus 7. While I plan to have plenty of downloaded podcasts available, I also want the option of using streaming music services. When tethering I am using my phone as a WiFi hotspot, Nexus is running the latest version of SmoothROM.
So, for an experiment I set up tethering on my phone, checked the current data useage, opened Slacker on the tablet and played music for 15 minutes. In that time the Tablet (according to the phone data useage) consumed about 24MB of data. Did the same but then using Slacker on my phone, this time after 15 minutes, only 7MB of data. At that rate I would only get about 30 hours of music before starting to run into the ridiculous 3GB cap. While 30 hours is a lot, I have 6+ hours of commuting a week. As I wrote above, I plan to have a good number of downloaded content available, but am curious as to the difference between what on the face of it, should be the same.
Looking in a little deeper, on the phone it shows 5MB of foreground data, and 2GB of background data, on the tablet its about a 50/50 split showing 12MB for both foreground and background. I checked the settings, and the only differences were that I had Overnight refresh on the tablet switched on (not that it should make any difference as first, it was not overnight, and second I don't have any downloaded content for it to refresh) and off on the phone. On the phone I also have audio quality set to Best, but only set to Good on the tablet.
If someone can explain the difference to me I would appeciate it.
Thanks.
Edit: So upon further research it seems that Slacker changes the bitrate / codecs it uses when using wifi vs cellular networks. Even though the phone is using cellular data, the Nexus thinks its connected to wifi and so requests the higher bitrate. Wondering if there is a way to force it to use one vs the other.
Tethering via Bluetooth seems to convince my N7 that it's on a mobile connection.
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Edit: So upon further research it seems that Slacker changes the bitrate / codecs it uses when using wifi vs cellular networks. Even though the phone is using cellular data, the Nexus thinks its connected to wifi and so requests the higher bitrate. Wondering if there is a way to force it to use one vs the other.
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This was going to be my suggestion, glad you figured it out. Some other apps have ways to adjust the data quality, not sure about Slacker. FYI, if you have an Android ICS+ phone, you can use Bluetooth tethering. It uses less power both for the phone and the tablet, and since it's not wifi, it might use a lower bitrate codec. Dunno.
Your phone is doing crap in the background. Its common.
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Some other apps have ways to adjust the data quality, not sure about Slacker. FYI, if you have an Android ICS+ phone, you can use Bluetooth tethering. It uses less power both for the phone and the tablet, and since it's not wifi, it might use a lower bitrate codec. Dunno.
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Slacker has an option to change the quality, but it appeared to make no difference (I had both set to the lowest setting). My phone does have ICS, so I will give tethering via Bluetooth a try and see how that goes.
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Your phone is doing crap in the background. Its common.
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But the phone used less data than the tablet? Did you mean to write that the tablet is doing more stuff in the background? regardless, I looked specifically at the data useage of the Slacker app only. Which ruled out anything the phone/tablet may be doing in the background.
So, tried again this afternoon tethered via Bluetooth (which was a pain to get working for some odd reason). This time 15 minutes of Slacker useage only increased the data useage on the phone by 15MB. I am guessing that along with Slacker the tablet was trying to do background updates as well, I plan to turn on the minimize background updates later and try again. Either way it would appear Bluetooth streaming is the way to go.
Does the Data usage item still appear in Settings on a non-3G Nexus 7? If so, in that menu you can tap the menu button up top and choose "Mobile hotspots". Here you can select which wifi networks are in fact mobile hotspots rather than actual unrestricted Internet connections. When you are connected to these, at least in theory it will tell apps to stick to the low bandwidth features.
Hi All, feel free to move if this isn't quite the right place for this question:
Basically, if I have a torrent subscription set up on my computer to download files to it on an automated schedule, can I then use Tasker or another app to check for those files and tell my over-the-air app Airstream to download them to my tablet.
Here's my situation, I work out of my car, I don't pay for a high-speed hotspot, and my Nexus 7 is what I want to use in my car to watch videos while I wait around at work for things that are out of my control to happen. I sit and wait a lot, where there isn't wifi, and my sad old android phone would be a poor excuse for a hotspot on a 3G (but really, slower than that) network that wouldn't be able to stream anything to me from anywhere else anyway. I want to automate the process of sending videos from my computer to my tablet, because I want the files saved on the computer and delete-able on the go on my tablet.
TORRENT--->>COMPUTER--->>TABLET fully automated.
Thanks!