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The Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE-A edition with the Snapdragon
800 chip inside is understandable getting the attention of
all benchmark-loving geeks. The smartphone was already
put through its paces in a couple of benchmarks last week,
but today, another batch of benchmarks has surfaced
showing what the Adreno 320 GPU is capable of.
The benchmarks that were used are GFX Bench 2.7, Epic
Citadel, AnTuTu 3D, and 3DMark benchmark, The Wi-Fi
adapter in the phone was put through some testing as well
to see if supports higher speeds than its Snapdragon 600
and Octa variations.
But now onto the benchmark scores, which were provided as
screenshots of chart tables. However, we’ve converted them
to our trusty benchmark graphs.
Starting off with the AnTuTu 3D Rating benchmark, the
Samsung Galaxy S4 LTE-A is the definite winner among
Android smartphones, but is far behind the iPhone 5, which
scores north of 13000 points. That’s unsurprising though, as
the first run is of the actual resolution of the respective
smartphone. Since the iPhone 5′s resolution is much lower
than the one of the Galaxy S4, it’s normal for Apple’s
smartphone to take that one.
Higher is better
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13671 Apple iPhone 5
9465 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
7587 Samsung Galaxy S4 (Octa)
6984 Vega IRON
5929 Nexus 4
5632 LG Optimus G
1661 LG Optimus 4X HD
However, when it comes to offscreen benchmarking, the
Adreno 320 takes the lead of the iPhone 5, but still loses
to the Octa version of the Galaxy S4.
Higher is better
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2781 Samsung Galaxy S4 (Octa)
2658 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
2564 Apple iPhone 5
2366 Samsung Galaxy Note II
6984 Vega IRON
2084 Vega N6
2062 Samsung Galaxy S3
2036 Vega R3
1974 HTC One X+
Moving onto the 3DMark benchmark test, the Galaxy S4 is
on top with 17075 points for the graphics score on the
“Icestorm Detail” level.
Higher is better
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17075 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
12628 Vega IRON
10647 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
11439 Google Nexus 4
9400 LG Optimus G PRO
Lastly, there’s Epic Citadel. There, the Galaxy S4 LTE-A falls
behind the Galaxy S4 Octa yet again, but it’s more to do
with the fact that the benchmark runs onscreen and the
devices hit the 60 fps limit of their displays.
High er is better
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59 . 8 Samsung Galaxy S4 (Octa)
59 . 2 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
57 . 5 Samsung Galaxy S4 Active
57 . 1 Samsung Galaxy S4 (S600)
56 . 4 HTC One
55 . 6 Sony Xperia Z
54 . 2 LG Optimus G Pro
53 . 9 Nexus 4
53 . 4 Asus Padfone 2
52 . 6 LG Optimus G
41 . 3 Samsung Galaxy S III
38 . 6 Oppo Find 5
And finally, we get on to the Wi-Fi Bandwidth test. The
Galaxy S4 LTE-A sits on top scoring 80392 points on the
5GHz band and 46411 on the 2.4GHz band. The Octa core
variety gets 76739 points and 45492 points on the 5GHz
and 2.4GHz band, respectively.
http://blog.gsmarena.com/samsung-galaxy-s4-lte-a-with-snapdragon-800-gets-gpu-benchmark-action/
Hi you stated twice Galaxy S4 LTE A witch ones octa ? Thanks
Moving onto the 3DMark benchmark test, the Galaxy S4 is
on top with 17075 points for the graphics score on the
“Icestorm Detail” level.
Higher is better
Sort by Label Sort by Value
17075 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
12628 Vega IRON
10647 Samsung Galaxy S4 (LTE-A)
11439 Google Nexus 4
9400 LG Optimus G PRO
wheres the default normal I9505 (Snapdragon 600) scores?
Quoted from GSM arena
"As you can clearly see, the Snapdragon 800 wipes the floor with both the*Samsung Galaxy S4 Exynos 5 Octa*andGalaxy S4 Snapdragon 600. In AnTuTu the difference between the scores is 3701 points, or just over 14% while in Quadrant it's more substantial at nearly 50%. Owners of the Octa and Snapdragon 600 versions of the phone*might feel a bit off*at this point"
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Quoted from GSM arena
"As you can clearly see, the Snapdragon 800 wipes the floor with both the*Samsung Galaxy S4 Exynos 5 Octa*andGalaxy S4 Snapdragon 600. In AnTuTu the difference between the scores is 3701 points, or just over 14% while in Quadrant it's more substantial at nearly 50%. Owners of the Octa and Snapdragon 600 versions of the phone*might feel a bit off*at this point"
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Why? Because an updated phone has a higher GPU score in a benchmark that won't be seen in everyday use throughout the entire lifetime of any of the three phones? Er....no. I'm happy with my GS4 and that isn't going to change because an updated model has been released two months after I purchased it.
Some people really need to get a grip and break this stupid obsession with benchmark scores. Once you get beyond a certain score they're nothing but numbers.
Who cares anyway about benchmarks, they dont mean anything. there is also no single game that demands such a gpu power. yeah cool within 2 years maybe but then ill have the S6
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Quoted from GSM arena
"As you can clearly see, the Snapdragon 800 wipes the floor with both the*Samsung Galaxy S4 Exynos 5 Octa*andGalaxy S4 Snapdragon 600. In AnTuTu the difference between the scores is 3701 points, or just over 14% while in Quadrant it's more substantial at nearly 50%. Owners of the Octa and Snapdragon 600 versions of the phone*might feel a bit off*at this point"
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I don't agree with that, i used a galaxy s3 and compared to the i9505 it is so much faster. Why should people feel a bit off just because a updated phone is out ? technique is changing everyday and not everyone cares about the newest stuff that got released. We already knew Samsung would release a updated version somewhere in the summer, people had a choice.
Hello do you know the price of the s4 LTE.A
Its about $900. For that our snap600 its better... :beer:
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We all can try our best to justify our purchase of i9500 and i9505 but nothing can change the fact that the lteA variant is faster, battery efficient, has quick charge like s600, has low power voice command for wakeup, has significantly better gpu, native 4k playback, 4k video recording etc.
But we have to keep in mind that all this won't make our s4 any worse or better, it is still running the way it was.
The only thing I am disappointed with is the octacores poor optimisation and a half baked silicon for big.little. I dont care if the snap 800 is faster or not but the octacore has alot of potential. Only if it was optimized better!
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plasmastate said:
We all can try our best to justify our purchase of i9500 and i9505 but nothing can change the fact that the lteA variant is faster, battery efficient, has quick charge like s600, has low power voice command for wakeup, has significantly better gpu, native 4k playback, 4k video recording etc.
But we have to keep in mind that all this won't make our s4 any worse or better, it is still running the way it was.
The only thing I am disappointed with is the octacores poor optimisation and a half baked silicon for big.little. I dont care if the snap 800 is faster or not but the octacore has alot of potential. Only if it was optimized better!
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It doesn't have any of the bolded parts. The only thing is better at is the GPU power and efficiency. That's all.
Don't forget that it costs about 100$ to 150$ more than the regular S4 so even if I have the option to peek the LTE-A variant 1.5 months ago I wouldn't cause it doesn't deserve the 100$ difference.
Guys I'm considering buying a s4-lte
But how's the ROM support
Are the ROMs for the snapdragon 600 comlaitable with it
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Guys I'm considering buying a s4-lte
But how's the ROM support
Are the ROMs for the snapdragon 600 comlaitable with it
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Maybe, not much I think. And NO, the Snapdragon 600 and 800 are totally different. It might brick if you flash a S600 ROM on the phone.
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noideaforusername said:
It doesn't have any of the bolded parts. The only thing is better at is the GPU power and efficiency. That's all.
Don't forget that it costs about 100$ to 150$ more than the regular S4 so even if I have the option to peek the LTE-A variant 1.5 months ago I wouldn't cause it doesn't deserve the 100$ difference.
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You're incorrect. The chipset in the GS4 LTE-A does support 4k encode/decode. The MSM8974 is the first hardware from Qualcomm that supports that feature. Whether or not Samsung will enable it is another question but I am betting they will eventually through a software update.
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You're incorrect. The chipset in the GS4 LTE-A does support 4k encode/decode. The MSM8974 is the first hardware from Qualcomm that supports that feature. Whether or not Samsung will enable it is another question but I am betting they will eventually through a software update.
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Never said the chipset doesn't support it. Just the fact that it won't be used since the camera sensor doesn't support this.
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Never said the chipset doesn't support it. Just the fact that it won't be used since the camera sensor doesn't support this.
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May be the camera sensor wont support it but how about outputting the 4k encoded video files through the video player mate?
thekoRngear said:
May be the camera sensor wont support it but how about outputting the 4k encoded video files through the video player mate?
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From where did you get the 4k videos and why would you want to do so? The display is FHD so you could take the FHD version of the Video/Series you want to watch... Don't forget that 4k videos are 4 times the size of a FHD videos so you probably won't be even possibly place 4k video inside your device
If you meant through a 4k TV monitor, then yes it'll be an advantage which very few people will be able to use.
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From where did you get the 4k videos and why would you want to do so? The display is FHD so you could take the FHD version of the Video/Series you want to watch... Don't forget that 4k videos are 4 times the size of a FHD videos so you probably won't be even possibly place 4k video inside your device
If you meant through a 4k TV monitor, then yes it'll be an advantage which very few people will be able to use.
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Hmm. I got Elysium trailer. A 2min video sized 416 or so MB. My S3 has 720p display. But did the technology stop there? The CPU/GPU is capable of rendering a 1080p video via video player. And since snapdragon 800 can decode/output 4k videos the first thing I will be curious (if I had the LTE A) whether or not the S4 LTE A could play that out. I can make it to smaller whatever size (1080p, 720p, 480p, 360p) I want but that isnt my point.
If there is certain restriction that all the current gen 1080p SAMOLED/SLCDs are unable to output UHD contents that I am unaware of, then pardon me for wanting it. 4k videos though really rare till now. People rather watch the 1080p videos Sourced straight from 4k original like Amazing Spider Man.
Also, the making sense of outputting such high resolution stuffs off a comparatively small screen like 5"+1080p could be another question. But since the GPU has it, why not try it?
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Whether or not Samsung will enable it is another question but I am betting they will eventually through a software update.
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Amen to that.
Just tried a 4k video using mxplayer with all possible settings on my i9500 for the sake of fun. It struggles and plays at almost half the normal speed lol. I am curious to find out how the snap800s handle such video.
(Not that it is useful in real time, atleast not for me but yeah)
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Just tried a 4k video using mxplayer with all possible settings on my i9500 for the sake of fun. It struggles and plays at almost half the normal speed lol. I am curious to find out how the snap800s handle such video.
(Not that it is useful in real time, atleast not for me but yeah)
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MX Player uses sw decoder for 4k video playback and unfortunately it uses low power(little) CPUs. My i9500 can't even play 1080p videos correctly by sw decoder in MX player cause of wrong processing priority which is kernel related while nexus4 can handle that without problem
I think A15 CPUs can handle 4k playback with no problems
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Pagnell said:
Why? Because an updated phone has a higher GPU score in a benchmark that won't be seen in everyday use throughout the entire lifetime of any of the three phones? Er....no. I'm happy with my GS4 and that isn't going to change because an updated model has been released two months after I purchased it.
Some people really need to get a grip and break this stupid obsession with benchmark scores. Once you get beyond a certain score they're nothing but numbers.
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Agree , every version of this phone launched have its pros and cons . even in the same hardware field , which is really not noticeable at all in real life use. every version is fast , snappy and can handle 1080p contents just well . just lets hope we get proper optimization for our devices that should be our main worry
We know that Samsung has signed a multi-year contract with Wolfson, and that past phones, such as the Note 2, have used Wolfson DAC's. Now, all we know about the audio on the Note 3 is that it will be "hi-def" being 24bit and 192khz. From what I've read, this spec is for both versions of the Note 3. Now, do you all think that both the Snapdragon 800 version and the Exynos 5420 version will have a Wolfson DAC? Or will the 800 have crappy integrated qualcomm audio as the S3 did?
I've tried contacting both Samsung and Wolfson, but to no avail. As soon as any information is available on the subject, I'll update this post.
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We know that Samsung has signed a multi-year contract with Wolfson, and that past phones, such as the Note 2, have used Wolfson DAC's. Now, all we know about the audio on the Note 3 is that it will be "hi-def" being 24bit and 192khz. From what I've read, this spec is for both versions of the Note 3. Now, do you all think that both the Snapdragon 800 version and the Exynos 5420 version will have a Wolfson DAC? Or will the 800 have crappy integrated qualcomm audio as the S3 did?
I've tried contacting both Samsung and Wolfson, but to no avail. As soon as any information is available on the subject, I'll update this post.
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S800 has a the Qualcomm DAC at least from my experience with the xperia z ultra, but I might be wrong .
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hiya,
from what iv heard so far the s800 version will have the qualcom chip. I tried getting in contact with the editors from engadget who were at IFA 2013 to ask this very question &got zilch. iv tried tweeting Samsung & Sony about the audio DACs in the zperia z1 &the galaxy note 3 &u guessed it..... nothing. the person I have spoken to is a recognised Dev here at xda &he says that the sound for the note 3 will be as good as u can get, but probably for the exynos version.
I hope this helps
Guys, I have a question developed since the release of S800 devices i.e., Ultra, S4 LTE-A (and coming I9506), G2 etc which will have the audio solution that Qualcomm provides. GSMArena already praised S600 (S4 I9505) audio quality. And since the S800 is a faster and improved version of slapdragon devices I think slapdragon does not seat idle. I mean they also continue to improve their audio part. That said, should not be the difference between exynos 5 octa and a slapdragon s4/note 3 minimal?
I dont get any much response from LTE-A owners.
It is not like crappy yamaha DAC against Exynos powered Wolfson chips.
thekoRngear said:
Guys, I have a question developed since the release of S800 devices i.e., Ultra, S4 LTE-A (and coming I9506), G2 etc which will have the audio solution that Qualcomm provides. GSMArena already praised S600 (S4 I9505) audio quality. And since the S800 is a faster and improved version of slapdragon devices I think slapdragon does not seat idle. I mean they also continue to improve their audio part. That said, should not be the difference between exynos 5 octa and a slapdragon s4/note 3 minimal?
I dont get any much response from LTE-A owners.
It is not like crappy yamaha DAC against Exynos powered Wolfson chips.
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Well, it should still support that "hifi" audio, so it can't be that bad. Plus, at E3 Qualcomm was showing off the audio of the SD800 which sounded pretty damn impressive to me at the time. I don't doubt that the audio quality will be good, but I'm worried that I won't be able to use audio mods like voodoo or viper4android.
wiimonkey9 said:
We know that Samsung has signed a multi-year contract with Wolfson, and that past phones, such as the Note 2, have used Wolfson DAC's. Now, all we know about the audio on the Note 3 is that it will be "hi-def" being 24bit and 192khz. From what I've read, this spec is for both versions of the Note 3. Now, do you all think that both the Snapdragon 800 version and the Exynos 5420 version will have a Wolfson DAC? Or will the 800 have crappy integrated qualcomm audio as the S3 did?
I've tried contacting both Samsung and Wolfson, but to no avail. As soon as any information is available on the subject, I'll update this post.
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Whatever... all that awesome audio quality will go to waste if the phone has a crappy speaker on the back, like old Note 2.
I'm so spoiled by my Nexus 10 front facing stereo speakers.
rodrigorajao said:
Whatever... all that awesome audio quality will go to waste if the phone has a crappy speaker on the back, like old Note 2.
I'm so spoiled by my Nexus 10 front facing stereo speakers.
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The speaker is on the bottom for the Note 3. But, ummm.... When people talk about audio quality, they are talking about it with headphones. Nobody expects speakers to sound like a 7.1 surround sound system on a phone.
rodrigorajao said:
Whatever... all that awesome audio quality will go to waste if the phone has a crappy speaker on the back, like old Note 2.
I'm so spoiled by my Nexus 10 front facing stereo speakers.
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LOL! Audio quality and phone/ tablet/laptop speakers! Ever heard quality stereo set up?
you know what guys.... I'm tired of all this audio chip crap, at IFA 2013 it was all about oooh display this &wow camera that, yet the bigwigs just don't bother with discussing audio. I don't know why they don't get that the reason why apple make millions on the iphone every year is because they do their audio quite well across the whole range. hell, I'd get an iPhone if it wasn't for wretched iTunes. its purely logical to assume that people will use the one item they have pretty much ALL the time as a music player rather than a video player (software permitting) isn't it? I mean who cares if you've got a 5 inch screen that can display 1080p? really? you'd have to have 21/20 vision to pick up all the tiny details anyway. but sound, that's different, different phones, even by the same company or even in the same product line seem to be miles apart in terms of audio quality. its ridiculous. &I, like a lame ass, have spent the last week trying to figure out what audio capabilities the note 3 has. more fool me. I might as well buy a decent USB DAC, connect it to my phone &let that handle all the audio. these companies are taking the mick.....
I have not listen to music on my phone since I've upgraded to the GN1.
I'm always paranoid that the power will run out on me before I get home since I listen to quite a lot of music when I'm out.
So I'm using a sansa + portable amp atm, and it's great!
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you know what guys.... I'm tired of all this audio chip crap, at IFA 2013 it was all about oooh display this &wow camera that, yet the bigwigs just don't bother with discussing audio. I don't know why they don't get that the reason why apple make millions on the iphone every year is because they do their audio quite well across the whole range. hell, I'd get an iPhone if it wasn't for wretched iTunes. its purely logical to assume that people will use the one item they have pretty much ALL the time as a music player rather than a video player (software permitting) isn't it? I mean who cares if you've got a 5 inch screen that can display 1080p? really? you'd have to have 21/20 vision to pick up all the tiny details anyway. but sound, that's different, different phones, even by the same company or even in the same product line seem to be miles apart in terms of audio quality. its ridiculous. &I, like a lame ass, have spent the last week trying to figure out what audio capabilities the note 3 has. more fool me. I might as well buy a decent USB DAC, connect it to my phone &let that handle all the audio. these companies are taking the mick.....
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If a phone is equipped with the Wolfson DAC and powered by voodoo sound and /or other tweaks, you will get one of the best sound quality, a PORTABLE device can have, including standalone portable music players .
That's what I got from my Galaxy S1 and Note 2 devices..
That could be a reason for a user to go for the exynos version of the Note3 instead of Snapdragon's...that's all
When I decide to finally purchase the Note 3, I will first take my headsets to a showroom and compare the Note 3's sound against my GNote2 among other things
Not being in a hurry to purchase yet another very expensive gadget, is a good thing ...
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betoNL said:
If a phone is equipped with the Wolfson DAC and powered by voodoo sound and /or other tweaks, you will get one of the best sound quality, a PORTABLE device can have, including standalone portable music players .
That's what I got from my Galaxy S1 and Note 2 devices..
That could be a reason for a user to go for the exynos version of the Note3 instead of Snapdragon's...that's all
When I decide to finally purchase the Note 3, I will first take my headsets to a showroom and compare the Note 3's sound against my GNote2 among other things
Not being in a hurry to purchase yet another very expensive gadget, is a good thing ...
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agreed Mr beto. I was on a serious rant that day lol. iv decided to bide my time. any phone company would be all too happy to sign me to yet another contract for another 2 years. I think I might just wait until my good old nexus one completely gives up before I use another phone. the isn't actually too bad with viper4audio lol. I don't actually think the exynos one will be available on any carrier on my country, as its only 3g enabled as far as I'm aware? the snapdragon one is lte enabled which is what the great communication gods of the united kingdom are deciding to push as hard as they can. I don't think I could afford to buy it outright. ~£700 is alot of money.... thank you for your advise anyway.
No bad choice.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_vs_i9505-review-930p5.php
This what what GSMArena said in their latest preview of the Note 2, with their audio testing as well:
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3_preview-review-986p5.php
The Samsung Galaxy Note 3 showed exceptionally clean audio output in our audio quality test. The phablet posted some of the best scores we have seen in both parts of the test and garnished them with decent volume levels. It's not the loudest we have seen, but it's loud enough for 99% of the occasions.
Impressively, there's virtually no distortion when you plug in a pair of headphones. Except for the minor bump in stereo crosstalk the output is barely affected.
And here go the results so you can see for yourselves.
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Hard to believe the DAC of the Snapdragon model can match the Wolfson one
I prefer to wait and see what Supercurio will say about it and then I will be doing my own comparisons at the showrooms.
I hope it will get close...
Here is Holland it will be much easier to get the S800.
If I decide to go for the Exynos, I will probably need to make a short trip to Germany...
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wow, if what gsmarena say is correct then Mr Barry is indeed correct..... well that means audio in all upcoming Snapdragon phones should be about on par with wolfson audio chips?..... I.e the audio in snapdragon socs should in theory get.even better? jeez, snapdragon is really pulling out all the stops..... huzzah! its about f****** time!
However.....
There is a chance the S800 will carry the Wolfson
Just found this info:
http://www.head-fi.org/t/678952/samsung-galaxy-note-3-24-bit-192khz/30#post_9816900
it looks like there may be hope yet. I'm sorry for asking but who is supercurio? I tried looking for info but I'm finding only voodoo stuff. is he like doomlord of the xperias? anyhoo, if anyone is interested I went to my local three store today to ask about the note 3. the advisor there said it should be available on three in the uk from 25th September. on a 2 year "the one plan" contract it would be £37 per month with £100 up front, I'm guessing that's for the 32gb note 3. time to raid the ol' piggy bank guys!
I hate to break it to you guys, but just having a Wolfson does nothing whatsoever to ensure high quality sound. Stated differently: having a Wolfson DAC rather than the Qualcomm DAC does not in and of itself mean one variant of the Note 3 will sound better than the other.
Because of the original Galaxy S and Voodoo Sound, Wolfson have a totally irrational following amongst Android users. Don't get me wrong, Wolfson make great DACs, but the DAC in a device is only part of the equation - how it is implemented is also really important. Case in point is the LG 2x Vs the Galaxy S. Both have the same DAC, only even with Voodoo Sound the Galaxy S has incomparably better sound quality (as measured and heard by Supercurio). Why? Implementation. There are lots of elements that go into implementing a DAC well - RF shielding from other components (the 2x has horrible CPU noise that intrudes all over the sound), how the power supply to the DAC is governed, the output impedance of the device (which is determined by more than the DAC alone, output impedance was the main problem with the Yamaha DAC'd S2 - it was 10ohm which meant unless your headphones/earphones had an input impedance of at least 80ohms the mismatch caused wonky frequency responses, big problem given virtually all IEMs have an input impedance in the 16-50 range), and what the software layer does with sound (the Wolfson-packing S4 Octa upsamples everything to 48KHz, which negatively impacts fidelity). There are probably lots of other things I'm not aware of that have a bearing that are external to a devices DAC.
That's another reason I would never pre-order an expensive device, besides trying avoiding those abusive pre-order prices :
I like to take my time and do my own comparison tests before buying anything, disregard all that technical mambo-jambo and expert reviews.
All those sellers of the showrooms I visit, are already used with me, bringing my headsets and playing hours with different devices and comparing them.
It's fun anyway, and in the meantime, the amazing sound of my Wolfson/Voodoo/MegaBass Beats powered GNote2 will do just fine....
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Considering the S4 mess with octa core support I'm not sure on what Note3 cpu model to follow... I'm tempted to get the N9000 because of the promised extra power of the cpu, also I'm living in a development country without LTE support. But previous experience with S4 cpu (currently got an I9500) is making the decision not so easy. Any input or opinion is welcomed.
Thanks.
I'm going to buy a Note 3 too and even though there is no LTE support in the country i live in, i'd prefer the reliability and core clock speed of qualcomm snapdragon 800 to the so-called octa core exynos chipset. And plus there are more roms for i9500 which is the LTE version and im thinking that this tradition will continue.
battle1 said:
I'm going to buy a Note 3 too and even though there is no LTE support in the country i live in, i'd prefer the reliability and core clock speed of qualcomm snapdragon 800 to the so-called octa core exynos chipset. And plus there are more roms for i9500 which is the LTE version and im thinking that this tradition will continue.
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More roms for the i9500?
surely a typo... there are far more roms for i9505 which is the Snapdragon 800 variant.
Thanks for your input.
I much prefer the Snapdragon to the Exynos setup. The Exynos solution consists of two quad-core processors, one with more processing capability and higher power requirements, one with lower (seems kind of like a less efficient version of Tegra 3's five core setup) - Having one more powerful, efficient quad core is a better solution IMO, even if they enable heterogeneous processing across both quad cores in the Exynos setup. Mobile apps will benefit from more single and lightly threaded performance than multi-threaded capability IMO.
maxipvp said:
More roms for the i9500?
surely a typo... there are far more roms for i9505 which is the Snapdragon 800 variant.
Thanks for your input.
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Sorry i meant i9505 as i said that i liked snapdragon 800(N9005) version better.
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Sorry i meant i9505 as i said that i liked snapdragon 800(N9005) version better.
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Understood. Thanks again for the comments.
BTW, just get a Samsung Galaxy Note 3 32GB LTE (AT&T) (Unlocked) from Negri Elect. $744.50 usd, shipping 10/3.
The only issue is the waiting time to get it.
Apart from the CPU difference there is the HD video one as well.
The N9000 records at 1080p 1920x1080 while N9005 records at 4K 3840 x 2160
I think this proves that the octacore is a indeed more powerful and can handle 4K video recording.
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Apart from the CPU difference there is the HD video one as well.
The N9000 records at 1080p 1920x1080 while N9005 records at 4K 3840 x 2160
I think this proves that the octacore is a indeed more powerful and can handle 4K video recording.
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Except it's the S800 version that's able to record 4k video.. N9005 is the Snapdragon 800 version and during IFA Samsung specifically said that 4K recording was only available on the S800 variant. I find it strange that the Exynos version doesn't support it.
so which one is best for tmobile( hspa+ AND lte )? n9005? I hope so, because I'm tired of the missing exynos drivers. Snapdragon800 please
I will be getting N9005,just because of the higher CPU clock,and better development support.
s800 version not supporting non European countries sim cards?
Did you get the news guys?
This is a total mess!!
I Wonder if there is something we can do.
But are there any benchmarks to tell us more about n9000 ?
lynx2025 said:
Did you get the news guys?
This is a total mess!!
I Wonder if there is something we can do.
But are there any benchmarks to tell us more about n9000 ?
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What? That's got to be some corporate cellular pprovider money grubbing monkey business. Thanks for the heads up
I got the 9005 model and it is very stable and smoth.
When I first used it the heat generated on the back was too much. But then it settled down.
Now it heats a bit also. I did not have this experience with my last note 2.
I hope someone who has access to both devices can test for that and let us know..
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I just watched review about n9000 vs n9005
is it true that n9000 has more total ram and internal storage compare to n9005?
i have the n9005 and the internal storage is 26.36gb, i guess they tested on a pre-release/ carrier rom. Total ram is 2440mb.
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From what I've seen in terms of benchmarks the n9005 is faster. In terms of rom support I guess the S800 version will get more roms and cm.
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N9005
Snapdragon 800 - 2.3Ghz
Adreno 330 GPU
4K Video Record and Playback
LTE Support
2.4GB available RAM
N900
Exynos 5 Octa 5420 - 1.9Ghz
Mali-T628 MP6 GPU
NO 4K Video Record and Playback (I seen test video at China forum before, it confirm cannot playback the 4K video)
NO LTE Support
2.7GB available RAM
Benchmark Result
I am still cant take choice
Hi all
Now i have n900 , i feel camera not good for take picture for moving things even in sport mode , i will buy another one to my friend and i want to gave him good advice if n9005 will be better and faster , because camera is one of important thing , also he will use it replacing by his tablet that mean hard work so what you think n900 or n9005 , LTE for us not important now Fast and stability is our issue.
Exynos Vs Snapdragon
I'd love to see various benchmarks/power consumption statistics with different cores on/off.
A-7's 1 on at min clock
A-7's all 4 at max clock
A-7's overclocked/undervolted
4 A-7's and 1 A-15 all at max clock
just 4 A-15's
a single A-15 at min clock
All 8 at max clock
all 8 undervolted/overclocked
These all are necessary to know before considering the N9000.
If this info is not available, the N9005 is the clear choice.
If you see the rom support as of now the n9005 is already winning in those terms.
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Hello
I'm in iran , and i need galaxy note 3... but i don't know buy sm-n9005 or sm-n900 ?
please help me ... i need your help...
many thanks ...
I think N900 is better for you if you are not covered by LTE
persiansoftware said:
Hello
I'm in iran , and i need galaxy note 3... but i don't know buy sm-n9005 or sm-n900 ?
please help me ... i need your help...
many thanks ...
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dorood bar shoma hamvatan, there is no LTE in Iran so you won't get LTE if you get N9005. but if you get N9005 you will get qualcomm snapdragon 800 CPU which is much more reliable than octa core exynos chipset that you get with N900
samanbabah said:
dorood bar shoma hamvatan, there is no LTE in Iran so you won't get LTE if you get N9005. but if you get N9005 you will get qualcomm snapdragon 800 CPU which is much more reliable than octa core exynos chipset that you get with N900
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More reliable? You base this affirmation on what exactly?
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Dear All,
Many thanks for your kind replies.
Let me inform you that LTE is not important for me as it is not supported in Iran.
The most important things for are the CPU power and speed, and usage of battery.
Also, please let me know which of the cpu's are most powerful: exynos or snapdragon?
( I heard that snapdragon is better to develop and support software than exynos. is it true?)
Many thanks for your kind help.
persiansoftware said:
Dear All,
Many thanks for your kind replies.
Let me inform you that LTE is not important for me as it is not supported in Iran.
The most important things for are the CPU power and speed, and usage of battery.
Also, please let me know which of the cpu's are most powerful: exynos or snapdragon?
( I heard that snapdragon is better to develop and support software than exynos. is it true?)
Many thanks for your kind help.
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I want buy this phone tomorrow , please help me ...
Are any price difference?
n9005 has 4K video resolution (but without image stabilization, so i dont use it)
n9005 has 1080p @ 60fps with digital image stabilization, Making the video very smooth (a little dip in the video quality compared to the 30fps, nothing huge though)
n9005 is the international version so more mods for it.
There are no speed difference.
I read somewhere n9000 is a little better battery wise. ( i am getting 16- 18 hours battery life on a heavy use, or 2 days with light to moderate use with n9005)
njan_ivide said:
Are any price difference?
n9005 has 4K video resolution (but without image stabilization, so i dont use it)
n9005 has 1080p @ 60fps with digital image stabilization, Making the video very smooth (a little dip in the video quality compared to the 30fps, nothing huge though)
n9005 is the international version so more mods for it.
There are no speed difference.
I read somewhere n9000 is a little better battery wise. ( i am getting 16- 18 hours battery life on a heavy use, or 2 days with light to moderate use with n9005)
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hi
yes, about 100 $ difference .... n9005 is more expensive
Hi!
I did some skype video calling lately and experienced something strange. The quality of the transmitted video was way better from Note 2 than from Note 3 in various aspects:
Concerning the front cam, I had 17 to 7 fps, a much better quality in terms of light and color of the pictures. Turning on the the quality information the Note 2 also showed a lower cpu usage (!!).
Skype version on both: 4.5.0.39600
Note 2 rooted stock ROM 4.1.2, Note 3 rooted stock 4.3 MJ7.
So, is the current skype version not as optimized for snapdragon 800 as for Exynos?
The results for the back cams were similar, but not with such drastic difference. Still higher frame rates on Note 2, a bit more "natural" picture and lower cpu usage. This was kinda disappointing. I love boths my devices, but comparing them in many aspects of everyday usage, the Note 3 is not superior to the Note 2 in all aspects! Skype is just 1 thing, there are quite some things still lacking on Note 3, UMS e.g.
So, can somebody confirm my "discoveries" in terms of skype video quality?
Anyone to bring a bit more insight into that issue?
P.S. Anything similar on Hangouts video?
Note3 sucks videocalling
Quetsch said:
Hi!
I did some skype video calling lately and experienced something strange. The quality of the transmitted video was way better from Note 2 than from Note 3 in various aspects:
Concerning the front cam, I had 17 to 7 fps, a much better quality in terms of light and color of the pictures. Turning on the the quality information the Note 2 also showed a lower cpu usage (!!).
Skype version on both: 4.5.0.39600
Note 2 rooted stock ROM 4.1.2, Note 3 rooted stock 4.3 MJ7.
So, is the current skype version not as optimized for snapdragon 800 as for Exynos?
The results for the back cams were similar, but not with such drastic difference. Still higher frame rates on Note 2, a bit more "natural" picture and lower cpu usage. This was kinda disappointing. I love boths my devices, but comparing them in many aspects of everyday usage, the Note 3 is not superior to the Note 2 in all aspects! Skype is just 1 thing, there are quite some things still lacking on Note 3, UMS e.g.
So, can somebody confirm my "discoveries" in terms of skype video quality?
Anyone to bring a bit more insight into that issue?
P.S. Anything similar on Hangouts video?
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Hi,
Any solutions for this thing here? really dissapointed with Note3 video calling this is to all applications not only in skype. video quality is bad. same goes with Xperia Z1 i changed to note 3 to eliminate the problem but only to find out that its just same freaking problem video quality so Bad.
hope someone could find a way regarding this problem. my Gf uses note 2 and way better video when we videocalling.