[Q] Verizon version capable of root? - Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So I've started researching the Note 3 as of recently as a replacement to my S4. What's got me worried is all the talk about how Verizon has taken extra steps to lock down the Note 3. I know the talk isn't anything new since Verizon has consistently tried locking down our phones without success, however is there anything new to cause concern over this phone in particular? Are we confident that the Note on Verizon will receive root with s-off? Not having root would definitely be a deal breaker so I'd like to nail down the facts before I pull the trigger. Also another side question, what is the version number for the Verizon version? Thanks for any help provided!

Found the answer to my second question. The Verizon version model number will be model SM-N9005

That's the same lte model that they are already rooting overseas. The criteria being the bootloader is unlocked. I'll be around to supply cheer and encouragement
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d.scardino said:
Found the answer to my second question. The Verizon version model number will be model SM-N9005
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It will be
SM-N9005V
HA HA HA

keymaster911 said:
It will be
SM-N9005V
HA HA HA
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Isn't it SM-N900V?
See link also has Verizon.
http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/11/samsung-galaxy-note-3-reaches-the-fcc-in-att-and-sprint-forms/
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Ive been trying to keep up with the note 3 forums when they opened and they are rooted and do have custom roms but the bootloader has to be unlocked just to even get root through odin. Verizon will def be locking it down. Hopefully wont be too long before a dev cracks it because I need root!!!!!!!

monkey10120 said:
Ive been trying to keep up with the note 3 forums when they opened and they are rooted and do have custom roms but the bootloader has to be unlocked just to even get root through odin. Verizon will def be locking it down. Hopefully wont be too long before a dev cracks it because I need root!!!!!!!
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Bootloader is unlocked.. The first day I get my hands on it.. I have a tool that I have been using for the last 4 devices.. That unlocks the bootloader..
all verizon stuff..
-s3
-note 2
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-tab 2 7.0
And I am sure it will work on the note 3 .. I have reached out to some high tech devs out here to help out on the recovery/rom .. Just waiting on some replys..

keymaster911 said:
Bootloader is unlocked.. The first day I get my hands on it.. I have a tool that I have been using for the last 4 devices.. That unlocks the bootloader..
all verizon stuff..
-s3
-note 2
-s4
-tab 2 7.0
And I am sure it will work on the note 3 .. I have reached out to some high tech devs out here to help out on the recovery/rom .. Just waiting on some replys..
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Ah..yea ok...right...lol. Get a life!

suzook said:
Ah..yea ok...right...lol. Get a life!
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@suzook what is your freaking problem. You're always a d bag if you don't believe someone.... You are the freaking reason xda is starting to suck because you have nothing but negative things to say!!!!!!!!!!!!! You did the same thing in EZ thread. So what if you don't believe him or he's lying. STOP BEING A FREAKING D BAG, THE WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD JUST OFF THEMSELVES!!!!

2swizzle said:
@suzook what is your freaking problem. You're always a d bag if you don't believe someone.... You are the freaking reason xda is starting to suck because you have nothing but negative things to say!!!!!!!!!!!!! You did the same thing in EZ thread. So what if you don't believe him or he's lying. STOP BEING A FREAKING D BAG, THE WORLD WOULD BE A MUCH BETTER PLACE IF PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULD JUST OFF THEMSELVES!!!!
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Im not a Dbag.....I KNOW FOR A FACT the bl is NOT UNLOCKED. Do i wish it was??? ABSOLUTELY!

suzook said:
Im not a Dbag.....I KNOW FOR A FACT the bl is NOT UNLOCKED. Do i wish it was??? ABSOLUTELY!
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I'm just taking a stab in the dark here, but.... I own a Verizon Galaxy s4, and... we definitely don't have an unlocked boot-loader...

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Im not a Dbag.....I KNOW FOR A FACT the bl is NOT UNLOCKED. Do i wish it was??? ABSOLUTELY!
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Guys. Please dont start in here.. thanks. Just fyi I have alot of people behind me in this project. I sent out the memo to them last night. How I am going to get the bootloader unlocked.. We are just waiting on the device to land in are lap. I had order 2 of them. To play with. The second one is there if the first one fails. Which I hope it don't. So just hang in there suzook. Please.
Android is just the beginning.

BossJ said:
I'm just taking a stab in the dark here, but.... I own a Verizon Galaxy s4, and... we definitely don't have an unlocked boot-loader...
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Right! We keep getting these ridiculous posts about "when will the the n3 be released" and crazy lies about the bl being unlocked already. People need to wake up and realize there IS NO UNLOCKED BL! If there was the s4 would have it. And another thing...its being released OCTOBER 10TH!
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Guys. Please dont start in here.. thanks. Just fyi I have alot of people behind me in this project. I sent out the memo to them last night. How I am going to get the bootloader unlocked.. We are just waiting on the device to land in are lap. I had order 2 of them. To play with. The second one is there if the first one fails. Which I hope it don't. So just hang in there suzook. Please.
Android is just the beginning.
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OH BOY..here we go again. Does anyone see the pattern with this guy? This is the same person who claimed vz was shipping out on the 29th. Well...here we are still waiting. Oh, he also claimed an unlocked BL....Now in his comments he has one unlocked, but the other is not...this is his way of claiming they changed how the BL is locked. Ban this troll.

suzook said:
Right! We keep getting these ridiculous posts about "when will the the n3 be released" and crazy lies about the bl being unlocked already. People need to wake up and realize there IS NO UNLOCKED BL! If there was the s4 would have it. And another thing...its being released OCTOBER 10TH!
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OH BOY..here we go again. Does anyone see the pattern with this guy? This is the same person who claimed vz was shipping out on the 29th. Well...here we are still waiting. Oh, he also claimed an unlocked BL....Now in his comments he has one unlocked, but the other is not...this is his way of claiming they changed how the BL is locked. Ban this troll.
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This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.

2swizzle said:
This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.
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Im not a pessimist, but a realist. Everyone needs to accept there is NO BL unlock. Why start rumors? Thats all they are without PROOF. All it does it make pointless threads.

suzook said:
Im not a pessimist, but a realist. Everyone needs to accept there is NO BL unlock. Why start rumors? Thats all they are without PROOF. All it does it make pointless threads.
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All I'm saying is you can't see the future, until the phones are released and we give him a chance we can't say if his post was pointless :highfive: lets be friends

2swizzle said:
This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.
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I wish I could hit that thanks button 1000 times. Well spoken. . Thanks again. . (1001) now..
Android is just the beginning.

2swizzle said:
This is what pisses me off Suzook, I agree we have all been trolled and we all was hoping the 29th was the ship date. One of my best friends is a Verizon Corp manager and told me that Verizon was going to ship the phone out early so they wouldn't lose business to other carriers but there was some legal concerns about charging people cards earlier then what's posted on Verizon website. So they didn't sale early....
As for the guy saying he is going to unlock the bootloader he might be full of it and he might be telling the truth!!! There's 7+ billion people in this world, I'm sure it's possible that someone is either smart enough to crack it or has inside connections. Think about the S3, that was unlocked because someone leak an unlocked bootloader... Note 2 never received that leak, it was unlocked because Adam and Relake (I misspelled his name).
It's okay to be pessimistic, but lets see how this thing plays out instead of making rude comments. The rude comments serve no point and does nothing for the xda community.
If you would stop and reflect and compare your post vs your thanks, now look at my post vs thanks, you will see I have half the post but twice as many thanks as you... Why?? because I try to post comments with a purpose and not judge or say negative comments.
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Verizon rep is full of it. All it takes is a simple email saying you are going to be charged a week early or whatever and if you wish to wait till 10/10 please call such and such and boom done. It was never early everybody speculated there was no proof of early release. Let me go back to bestbuy where I was yesterday talking to inventory guys and Samsung rep with road map and had 10/10 so anybody saying before is a straight up liar.
And the rude posts!?!? Are you kidding? Dude posts for sure they are shipping 9/29 & unlocked bootloader & then closes thread before he "talks" to Verizon. Yeah right. Now this unlocked crap he is full of it.
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Im not a pessimist, but a realist. Everyone needs to accept there is NO BL unlock. Why start rumors? Thats all they are without PROOF. All it does it make pointless threads.
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Amen. Nothing without proof. Somebody I believe asked for proof of unlocked bootloader info and he refused. I want proof for anything anymore. I like you man. Atta boy suzook
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oneandroidnut said:
Verizon rep is full of it. All it takes is a simple email saying you are going to be charged a week early or whatever and if you wish to wait till 10/10 please call such and such and boom done. It was never early everybody speculated there was no proof of early release. Let me go back to bestbuy where I was yesterday talking to inventory guys and Samsung rep with road map and had 10/10 so anybody saying before is a straight up liar.
And the rude posts!?!? Are you kidding? Dude posts for sure they are shipping 9/29 & unlocked bootloader & then closes thread before he "talks" to Verizon. Yeah right. Now this unlocked crap he is full of it.
Amen. Nothing without proof. Somebody I believe asked for proof of unlocked bootloader info and he refused. I want proof for anything anymore. I like you man. Atta boy suzook
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Suzook and I found a common ground, I understand where he's coming from and he understood my point. We can not predict the future.... EZ closed his thread because he was tired of you guys treating him like Sh.. for no reason.. If sockmonkey posted right now he has a unsecure bootloader for the note 3 you would call b.s.... but he is the same guy who released the bootloader for the s3... my point is until the guy proves he's full of it, give him a break...

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Suzook and I found a common ground, I understand where he's coming from and he understood my point. We can not predict the future.... EZ closed his thread because he was tired of you guys treating him like Sh.. for no reason.. If sockmonkey posted right now he has a unsecure bootloader for the note 3 you would call b.s.... but he is the same guy who released the bootloader for the s3... my point is until the guy proves he's full of it, give him a break...
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Well we will see soon enough and proof would be nice
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Returning my Galaxy SIII (Verizon)

it is with a very sad and heavy heart that i've decided to return my samsung galaxy s3 to Verizon today. it's by far the greatest cellphone i've seen.
i had shattered my Thunderbolt a couple weeks back, and wanting to keep my unlimited data plan, i was more than glad to pay full price for this device. it's really that incredible.
unfortunately, upon receiving the device, i learned of +Verizon Wireless' locking of the bootloader. they were the only carrier to do such. this has soured the taste in my mouth so greatly, that i am forced to send this incredible machine back to Verizon.
a truly sad day to be a geek.
seittit said:
it is with a very sad and heavy heart that i've decided to return my samsung galaxy s3 to Verizon today. it's by far the greatest cellphone i've seen.
i had shattered my Thunderbolt a couple weeks back, and wanting to keep my unlimited data plan, i was more than glad to pay full price for this device. it's really that incredible.
unfortunately, upon receiving the device, i learned of +Verizon Wireless' locking of the bootloader. they were the only carrier to do such. this has soured the taste in my mouth so greatly, that i am forced to send this incredible machine back to Verizon.
a truly sad day to be a geek.
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If you're willing to pay full price, why not buy the developer version?
Overstew said:
If you're willing to pay full price, why not buy the developer version?
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i am, when i preordered the device there was no 'developer version' (and there's yet one to be for sale on Samsung's developer page)
when it goes live, i'll pick up one, though it makes me wonder just how much Android developer support will be on the Verizon model. not too many devs are willing to pay full price, the community is likely to be very small.
Imo your better off sticking around and waiting for Adam Outleter to finish unlocking the bootloader. I doubt too many will be getting the dev gs3. Dont see much point in a developer edition when there wont be much development on it...
droidstyle said:
Imo your better off sticking around and waiting for Adam Outleter to finish unlocking the bootloader. I doubt too many will be getting the dev gs3. Dont see much point in a developer edition when there wont be much development on it...
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I agree with this. Adam is getting really close. It's very interesting to follow his thread. I wish I knew more about programming and inner workings of the android OS so I could help him out.
Adam's thread?
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Yeah, man. Stick around. Adam is making great progress on getting the bootloader unlocked.
Sent from my Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III with a locked bootloader - F*** YOU VERIZON
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Adam's thread?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769411
And we care....why? Why would you feel the need to let everyone on this board know that you're returning your phone?
Hold up guys, I'm going to create a new thread: I've got to go to the bathroom (Toilet).
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769411
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Try to refrain from posting in it. Just read and follow along with all the smart guys. Some have already post the "omg you guys are so smart" stuff in there and Adam specifically asked no one to do that. I hope as this link gets out there people can follow the rules.
The locked version will have 10x the dev support Imo. I wouldn't get the dev device. That and you can already flash aosp roms on the locked version using kexec. I think you are making a mistake.
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mustbepbs said:
And we care....why? Why would you feel the need to let everyone on this board know that you're returning your phone?
Hold up guys, I'm going to create a new thread: I've got to go to the bathroom (Toilet).
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Who cares? If you don't like it ignore it. Simple.
To the op... I feel ya.. In fact so much so I canceled my pre order and switched to tmobile! So happy I did.. I'll save $50/month and have a fully unlocked device. If you aren't tied to a contract still I would consider checking coverage in your area and pricing it out. I knew I would save money but not this much lol.
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Asurion replacement phones?

i lost my phone last night in the city because i was piss drunk and i was at a club. i forgot to install cerberus after i flashed a new rom before going to the city that night so i was screwed. Im getting a replacement phone from asurion and i wanna know if its gonna be MF3 or MDL. does anyone know what i might get?
i dont regret going to the city at all by the way. I hooked up with this hott as hell blonde chick easily a 9 out of 10 and got her number and were going on a date now XD
Chances are it's going to be a refurb, so there's honestly no telling what you're going to get. I would think by now, most of them would be on MF3. Mine came on MDL when I got it from Radioshack, but I wasn't thinking about rooting and it pushed MF3 to the phone.
Easton999GS said:
i lost my phone last night in the city because i was piss drunk and i was at a club. i forgot to install cerberus after i flashed a new rom before going to the city that night so i was screwed. Im getting a replacement phone from asurion and i wanna know if its gonna be MF3 or MDL. does anyone know what i might get?
i dont regret going to the city at all by the way. I hooked up with this hott as hell blonde chick easily a 9 out of 10 and got her number and were going on a date now XD
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If you're getting it from Asurion, it's going to be MF3. They won't ship a phone, whether refurb or not without updating it as far as they can.
(And for the record, no need to share your experiences in the city, a) highly a lie and b) it doesn't concern the topic at hand.)
FourPointedFreak said:
If you're getting it from Asurion, it's going to be MF3. They won't ship a phone, whether refurb or not without updating it as far as they can.
(And for the record, no need to share your experiences in the city, a) highly a lie and b) it doesn't concern the topic at hand.)
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Highly a lie? i can prove everything to you right now. yes it doesnt concern the topic but i didnt care it was a story that i wanted to share.
Easton999GS said:
Highly a lie? i can prove everything to you right now. yes it doesnt concern the topic but i didnt care it was a story that i wanted to share.
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Cool story kid - good luck with your Asurion claim.
Don't bother with someone taunting you with ridiculousness. I had the same thing happen last year. Anyway, there's really no telling what you might get from Asurion. Sometimes, you might even get a phone that doesn't work properly from them and have to get 5 replacements for it to be right (happened with my old HTC Window Mobile phone). I got a warranty replacement recently from AT&T for camera problems (hardware issue). The AT&T store rep told me that for sure I'd end up being charged full price for the phone, since it had trivial scratches on the screen (from being in my pocket with my keys once). No charge ever came. Luckily I received my replacement with MDB firmware. I would think that AT&T would surely ship the latest firmware if anyone would. I imagine it's just a crap shoot at this point. Good luck. Worst case scenario, you'll have to resort to safestrap. That's really not so bad.
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Don't bother with someone taunting you with ridiculousness. I had the same thing happen last year. Anyway, there's really no telling what you might get from Asurion. Sometimes, you might even get a phone that doesn't work properly from them and have to get 5 replacements for it to be right (happened with my old HTC Window Mobile phone). I got a warranty replacement recently from AT&T for camera problems (hardware issue). The AT&T store rep told me that for sure I'd end up being charged full price for the phone, since it had trivial scratches on the screen (from being in my pocket with my keys once). No charge ever came. Luckily I received my replacement with MDB firmware. I would think that AT&T would surely ship the latest firmware if anyone would. I imagine it's just a crap shoot at this point. Good luck. Worst case scenario, you'll have to resort to safestrap. That's really not so bad.
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i just got it and it was a clean MF3 =/ i guess im gonna stay safestrapped for now. it just sucks that im gonna most likely be stuck on 4.2.2 forever cause when 4.3 comes out this isnt gonna work at all.
FourPointedFreak said:
Cool story kid - good luck with your Asurion claim.
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looks like you need to grow up and lose the bad attitude. You could've easily ignored this thread like everyone else.
Mods please close this thread, I don't have patience for people with a stick up their ass.
Easton999GS said:
looks like you need to grow up and lose the bad attitude. You could've easily ignored this thread like everyone else.
Mods please close this thread, I don't have patience for people with a stick up their ass.
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Boo hoo
jd1639 said:
Boo hoo
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The maturity level on XDA just gets worse and worse by the day. smh. This is why devs have no patience with people anymore
Easton999GS said:
The maturity level on XDA just gets worse and worse by the day. smh. This is why devs have no patience with people anymore
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You're kidding me right! You post this crap and question maturity and wonder why devs have no patience?
jd1639 said:
You're kidding me right! You post this crap and question maturity and wonder why devs have no patience?
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i asked what firmware my phone may possibly be. and it was coupled with a short experience/story. You had no need to comment on this thread as you did absolutely nothing to help me.
MODS please close this thread.
jd1639 said:
You're kidding me right! You post this crap and question maturity and wonder why devs have no patience?
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This is a Questions and Answers subforum. If you can't or are unable to contribute to the topic at hand, then do not comment at all. It's very simple. Coming in here and going "boo hoo" did nothing to answer OP's question.
Easton999GS said:
The maturity level on XDA just gets worse and worse by the day. smh. This is why devs have no patience with people anymore
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It's passed a level of maturity young kid - it's a matter of keeping the thread on focus of the OP topic, which I was gladly doing. You've now hijacked in into a masquerade of immature lies that no one on XDA cares about. We're here to talk to and relate to the AT&T Galaxy S4 i337 and i337m device, not your inner city fantasies.
Did you get your replacement phone from Asurion or not? Is it MF3?
FourPointedFreak said:
It's passed a level of maturity young kid - it's a matter of keeping the thread on focus of the OP topic, which I was gladly doing. You've now hijacked in into a masquerade of immature lies that no one on XDA cares about. We're here to talk to and relate to the AT&T Galaxy S4 i337 and i337m device, not your inner city fantasies.
Did you get your replacement phone from Asurion or not? Is it MF3?
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its MF3, yes. im just waiting for to see if kexec is possible yet from the word of hashcode.
Easton999GS said:
its MF3, yes. im just waiting for to see if kexec is possible yet from the word of hashcode.
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I would think that would be known if it were possible - but could be wrong. It's a shame it was sent with MF3 but at least you have a working device. Congrats to that.

[Returning the Note 7 due to locked bootloader]

All 3 of my Note 7's are going back!
I'm curious to see how big we can get this thread and I hope it makes a statement.
Dumb T-mobile...becoming ATT and Verizon. Actually with the S7 and Note 7 stunt with locking the bootloader, they have...
Such a shame. We bought the phone so it should be ours 100% to do what we want with it. Wth is this? A lease program you're pulling?
Sorry, but I along with many others will not fall victim to your rubbish tactics. I will not be a slave to your proprietary bs.
Who's with me?
Not everyone uses Samsung Pay. No excuses can justify being okay with the fact of not having full control over a device we pay for. It's straight up communist.
I'm solving the issue by not buying one. Period. As much as I love the phone, I will wait to see the new Nexux.
Did anyone expect it to be unlocked? Lol
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Rydah805 said:
Did anyone expect it to be unlocked? Lol
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Lol, expected? Not really, that'd be a fantasy after seeing the S7. However, it could have been and having that sliver of hope is / was realistic. Reality? Obviously not the case.
Not saying it'll happen, but this isn't the first time we've been in this position with being faced with the impossible.
Rydah805 said:
Did anyone expect it to be unlocked? Lol
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Yes I am seriously surprised at the number of people that thought it wouldn't be locked. It is like the whole S7 release all over again but this time anyone familiar with Samsung and especially members of XDA should have not been surprised at all.
Although i dont care about such things, i do think Samsung should unlock the bootloader. Once the phone is fully payed off you should have that option. I dont think anyone on a plan like Jump should have the option because those phones get refurbished and if anyone else has ever bought a rooted phone off Craigslist knows the pain when the seller messed up there phone and now is trying to pawn it off on someone else. Or maybe they put all phones that have the bootloader unlocked on a special list made to the public so people like me can avoid thise phones
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I'm returning mine just because the difference between the note 7 and s7 edge is negligible. Not for $850
chipworkz said:
Yes I am seriously surprised at the number of people that thought it wouldn't be locked. It is like the whole S7 release all over again but this time anyone familiar with Samsung and especially members of XDA should have not been surprised at all.
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The word, "surprised" would only be valid to some, but to most of the enthusiasts, it's not really that we're surprised, it's just that with the international variant (SD820's being offered in markets where there is no Samsung Pay) and with the out cry of the S7, it's not unreasonable to have had a little hope for the Note 7. Long shot? Uh yea, of course...but like I've said, this isn't the first time at the rodeo where we've been faced with the impossible; that became possible in due time.
Come on guys... Seriously? I love rooting and tinkering just as much as anyone... But you are returning all 3 because the bootloader is locked? I'm amazed you bought them in the first place if this is a deal breaker.
If 1000 phones go back they lose a million dollars...Mine will be one of them as well.... If we stuck together in the first place they would HAVE to listen....Lock Bootloaders...whatever, but give us that want a solution one...Unlock for the Root Community...the most creative and die hard enthusiast deserve better than this
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Lets start another petition...and fight for our right to Root!
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DionWhite33 said:
If 1000 phones go back they lose a million dollars...Mine will be one of them as well.... If we stuck together in the first place they would HAVE to listen....Lock Bootloaders...whatever, but give us that want a solution one...Unlock for the Root Community...the most creative and die hard enthusiast deserve better than this
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Lets start another petition...and fight for our right to Root!
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No not really, that is a potential lose but in actuality they will just go into the refurbished pool. 1000 phones is still nothing out of the 25+ million phones they will sell. That is based just on the Q2 sales numbers of the S7 \ S7E. The 1000 phones is only 0.004 % of 25 million phones.
Also returns are just part of everyday business and expected. Unless the return rate was a high percentage, it is just normal business to them.
Unfortunately our numbers and desires mean nothing to them compared to their own...
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No not really, that is a potential lose but in actuality they will just go into the refurbished pool. 1000 phones is still nothing out of the 25+ million phones they will sell. That is based just on the Q2 sales numbers of the S7 \ S7E. The 1000 phones is only 0.004 % of 25 million phones.
Also returns are just part of everyday business and expected. Unless the return rate was a high percentage, it is just normal business to them.
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I know...just felt good to say...
Why can't we just flash the unlocked w8 bootloader? N5 was always interchangeable, and w8 is also sd820, so why not? Someone should try...they may have left us an out...
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I know...just felt good to say...
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lol I know man, this is how I felt when I got the S7E. I said I was done with Samsung and would never buy a locked down phone. Well here I am with my Note7 knowing it was locked. I would prefer to have the option to root and flash custom roms if I wanted to but I decided to just stay stock which is why I was fine buying the phone.
There just isn't another phone out or soon to be out from what I have seen to match this. I am still keeping the Note5 for the wife so if I really get the itch to flash something, I can always do it on that one.
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Come on guys... Seriously? I love rooting and tinkering just as much as anyone... But you are returning all 3 because the bootloader is locked? I'm amazed you bought them in the first place if this is a deal breaker.
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I would have waited to see if it was locked before I bought it.
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Rx8Driver said:
Why can't we just flash the unlocked w8 bootloader? N5 was always interchangeable, and w8 is also sd820, so why not? Someone should try...they may have left us an out...
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I am sure there is more to it than that but it is a different scenario than what we had with the S7. I would think that this is the most likelihood of the T-Mobile version getting unlocked. BUT with the reports of the F model getting the update that locked down it's bootloader, I think there is a good chance that they will all be locked down before long.
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I am sure there is more to it than that but it is a different scenario than what we had with the S7. I would think that this is the most likelihood of the T-Mobile version getting unlocked. BUT with the reports of the F model getting the update that locked down it's bootloader, I think there is a good chance that they will all be locked down before long.
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If this will work now that's all we need...flash the bootloader from w8 and don't take any ota updates...they can't force us to update...
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If this will work now that's all we need...flash the bootloader from w8 and don't take any ota updates...they can't force us to update...
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True, once rooted the update can't be forced. The value of the rooted phones could really go up since the supply will start to dwindle.

Note 7 to Iphone 7 with Tmobile

this is just a little info i want to pass along that i learned from tmobile today. it's not meant to be an iphone vs. samsung thread.
i talked to a couple different reps today and they all told me the same thing. if you have a note 7 you can exchange it for an iphone 7 next friday. you cant do the pre-order because they would need to get the note 7 from you first before doing the iphone exchange. so you just take your note 7 into a tmobile store next friday and they will reimburse you for everything you paid for with the note 7 and you will even get your jump back. at that time you use the reimbursement to pay for the iphone 7 and use the jump that you just got back.
just wanted to pass along some info in case anyone else was wondering.
I'm pretty sure most people know this but thanks anyway. You can exchange it for any phone you want, no reason they would exclude the new iPhone. This is exactly what I plan on doing, I will be at the store at 10am on release day! Figured this is the best time for me to try out a iPhone, the timing is just to coincidental lol.
And, why downgrade to IPhone 7! Smh
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Lancerz said:
I'm pretty sure most people know this but thanks anyway. You can exchange it for any phone you want, no reason they would exclude the new iPhone. This is exactly what I plan on doing, I will be at the store at 10am on release day! Figured this is the best time for me to try out a iPhone, the timing is just to coincidental lol.
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That's your choice to make but just a small tip. Go to the store at 7:30 am on the release day. The stores here in New Jersey open early but they do not advertise it.
ejdavis said:
And, why downgrade to IPhone 7! Smh
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Why not, if I don't like it I have another jump upgrade in 3 months.
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That's your choice to make but just a small tip. Go to the store at 7:30 am on the release day. The stores here in New Jersey open early but they do not advertise it.
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I work midnight shift and get off at 7am so ill swing by but I doubt they will open that early in Ga. Plus their are 3 T-Mobile corporate stores on the same street where I am so I'm sure I'll be able to get one on release day.
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Let's use a little common sense when posting about an Iphone in a android based community. Honestly not many people in here would even care about that and to top it off why go to a phone that does less than what you have now. I know I know it blows up but you do know your chances of getting hit by a car are greater than your phone blowing up right now. I bet you still go outside and drive a car or get on a plane, etc..... You people kill me.
Thanks for the info but I dont see how this is the place for it. also, this was not a bashing post....
Thinking about going back to iPhone as well. I shouldn't have to compromise settings just for this phone to work.
As an Android/Samsung Fanboy it's a damb shame to have to go through all this.
The 6s Plus NEVER gave me any problems. Even with 2gb of RAM, it NEVER lagged. Hell, the battery was hard to kill with heavy usage (4hrs of youtube background play, fb, text, browsing XDA, etc).
I'm trying to give Sammy a chance but damn.. hopefully the results of these replacements can change my mind.
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Let's use a little common sense when posting about an Iphone in a android based community. Honestly not many people in here would even care about that and to top it off why go to a phone that does less than what you have now. I know I know it blows up but you do know your chances of getting hit by a car are greater than your phone blowing up right now. I bet you still go outside and drive a car or get on a plane, etc..... You people kill me.
Thanks for the info but I dont see how this is the place for it. also, this was not a bashing post....
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I think better comparison would be driving and texting or being distracted by phone in general: the same people panicking about faulty batteries think nothing of using the phone while driving and I'm guilty as well, just glanced at the map to check traffic ahead, same time as the guy in front stand on breaks, I barely stopped without hitting him and I drive a lot with years of experience. Probably more than 500 people die each yr. because of phone distractions. My phone charging station is on marble table in kitchen for years (convenience of multiple outlets at above waste level), accidently right next to smoke detector. Most likely it would be non event for me even if it burned to crisp. I put my life in much bigger danger when I'm cooking, but that's another story. As a side note advice, for those interested to buy iphone7, get iphone 6 instead put the tape on headphone jack and viola, you got iphone 7, you can thank me later.
Yeah but then they will lose out on the new shiny black one
Just placed an order for the jet black and was told it would be shipping in NOV lol, so i don't know what ever comes first new Note 7, V20 or iphone
Considering that the Note 7 is the most expensive phone T Mobile sells, it seems obvious that you would be able to exchange it for ANY other phone they sell.
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Yeah but then they will lose out on the new shiny black one
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Doesn't matter. At least 99% of iPhone users put cases on them. I'm not even sure why apple offers different colors...
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Considering that the Note 7 is the most expensive phone T Mobile sells, it seems obvious that you would be able to exchange it for ANY other phone they sell.
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Doesn't matter. At least 99% of iPhone users put cases on them. I'm not even sure why apple offers different colors...
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But it's shiny
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But it's shiny
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Fair enough. It is at least 200% shinier than any previous iPhone, well, except for one.
Thanks for the info, I've been trying to the same, got no help at the store, went through 4 phone reps who refused to do it, and finally one gave in and pre ordered them for us. Wish they would've told us that we can just go get them at the store on Friday. They're saying that the phone is already sold out and that be shipments would come out in October or November
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Thanks for the info, I've been trying to the same, got no help at the store, went through 4 phone reps who refused to do it, and finally one gave in and pre ordered them for us. Wish they would've told us that we can just go get them at the store on Friday. They're saying that the phone is already sold out and that be shipments would come out in October or November
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yea your best bet is to go into the store and get one. my local tmobile is opening at 8am and handing out tickets in case there is a line. they dont know how many they will have in stock.
i enjoy the people the bringing nothing to topic but come in to post to complain about others talking about the iphone. you act like someone talked bad about your mom. in the OP i stated this isnt an iphone vs android topic. yet some peoples blind loyalism cant understand that there are people that like both. "you people kill me".
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Let's use a little common sense when posting about an Iphone in a android based community. Honestly not many people in here would even care about that and to top it off why go to a phone that does less than what you have now. I know I know it blows up but you do know your chances of getting hit by a car are greater than your phone blowing up right now. I bet you still go outside and drive a car or get on a plane, etc..... You people kill me.
Thanks for the info but I dont see how this is the place for it. also, this was not a bashing post....
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there probably isnt many people that would care but there are some and this info was for them. there are already some in this very thread that said thanks for the info. i could care less about the chances. it's a recall, as simple as that. and this is definitely the place for the info. this is a tmobile note 7 thread. i'm talking about the tmobile note 7 in an exchange. doesnt get any more relevant than that.
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there probably isnt many people that would care but there are some and this info was for them. there are already some in this very thread that said thanks for the info. i could care less about the chances. it's a recall, as simple as that. and this is definitely the place for the info. this is a tmobile note 7 thread. i'm talking about the tmobile note 7 in an exchange. doesnt get any more relevant than that.
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Note 7 to iPhone 7 in a Android based forum OK real relevant in a forum with 100 of thousands of users your 2 people that think it's useful makes your thread useful. Again not bashing just don't see the point of your thread but hey this ain't the first useless thread in here and sure it won't be the last carry on my bad.
Take care!
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Note 7 to iPhone 7 in a Android based forum OK real relevant in a forum with 100 of thousands of users your 2 people that think it's useful makes your thread useful. Again not bashing just don't see the point of your thread but hey this ain't the first useless thread in here and sure it won't be the last carry on my bad.
Take care!
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here's a question for you. if it's not useful to you then why did you comment in the first place? doesnt matter if it was 2 people or 100, it was still useful. did my original post some how say something bad about you? did it affect your life in some negative way? i just dont see the reason for your post. you brought nothing to this thread except to complain about me making a post and then say your not bashing. might as well said i'm bashing but not bashing. who cares if it's about the iphone. it's just a phone man. it's not that serious in the grand scheme of life.
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here's a question for you. if it's not useful to you then why did you comment in the first place? doesnt matter if it was 2 people or 100, it was still useful. did my original post some how say something bad about you? did it affect your life in some negative way? i just dont see the reason for your post. you brought nothing to this thread except to complain about me making a post and then say your not bashing. might as well said i'm bashing but not bashing. who cares if it's about the iphone. it's just a phone man. it's not that serious in the grand scheme of life.
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Yet you made a thread about it. I responded cuz I could I guess again my bad if I upset you not bashing you at all
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Yet you made a thread about it. I responded cuz I could I guess again my bad if I upset you not bashing you at all
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yes i made a post because i was passing on some harmless information that might be useful to anyone interested. lol. like i said it's not that serious. i'm not upset, but this community has been getting worse and worse with members attacking or down talking each other over petty stuff. it didnt used to be like that.

PSA: USA Bootloaders WILL be LOCKED!!!

My DM with a T-Mobile rep.
Any chance you can ask them to list the actual bands the phone supports?
I'm glad I'll be the recipient of the Exynos (unlocked) version. However i can get with the whole security aspect in regards to Google wallet & Samsung Pay/android pay. Like you mentioned though i NEVER and will EVER use this service, it gets disabled from the moment i get the phone (plus my bank doesn't support it anyway lol).
You pay a premium it should be up to the user as to what he does and yes what he/she risks.
I am very much against taking away the option of root and custom ROMs because of a service being forced upon us.
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Duncan1982 said:
I'm glad I'll be the recipient of the Exynos (unlocked) version. However i can get with the whole security aspect in regards to Google wallet & Samsung Pay/android pay. Like you mentioned though i NEVER and will EVER use this service, it gets disabled from the moment i get the phone (plus my bank doesn't support it anyway lol).
You pay a premium it should be up to the user as to what he does and yes what he/she risks.
I am very much against taking away the option of root and custom ROMs because of a service being forced upon us.
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I second being against them taking away root and ROMs and forcing services upon us. If there was less or no fragmentation in android with regards to updates, I could perhaps stay stock..
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My DM with a T-Mobile rep.
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LOL! Sorry but, how old are you? I'm as disappointed as anyone, but you're acting like a child. You think that because YOU'VE been with T-Mobile "since VoiceStream" T-Mobile should change their decision? Ridiculous. The guy you were talking to can't help you, cannot make any executive decisions and sure as hell isn't passing along your "concerns" to Legere. He also doesn't give a damn that you're cancelling a whopping THREE (3!!!) device orders. Did you think he was going to crumble to his knees, beg you to keep your orders and run tell boss, "we must change our bootloader plans because Mr. VoiceStream is simply NOT having it?"
You were just whining to yourself while he typed, "I understand how you feel" and rubbed your shoulders a bit.
Agreed, complaining to a underpaid rep that probably hates listening to people complain all day everyday is not going to get bootloaders unlocked.
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Agreed, complaining to a underpaid rep that probably hates listening to people complain all day everyday is not going to get bootloaders unlocked.
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Yet people still complain lol.
You know the bootloader is locked before you buy the device. Deal with it and move on.
Edit: not aimed towards you. Just saying in general of the complainers lol
Chainfire already finds a solution
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Chainfire already finds a solution
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Source?
Z51 said:
Yet people still complain lol.
You know the bootloader is locked before you buy the device. Deal with it and move on.
Edit: not aimed towards you. Just saying in general of the complainers lol
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^ This.
I also love how the op states he is speaking for the users/devs on XDA.....errr, no you aint!! lol
aydinbahadir88 said:
Chainfire already finds a solution
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For realz???
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LMAO...Yea, sure he did.
Useless thread. This is not a surprise and is something we already knew.
I ordered two from TMo and I'm sure that a root method will pop up soon after release.
Motorola had bootlocks on the Bionic and it was still able to be rooted. I bet within a month we'll be rooting with the rest of them.:good::good:
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My DM with a T-Mobile rep.
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Samsung has officially lost by business. Been a samsung guy since the S3 and I've stuck with them in the years since. It's such a shame that they choose to do this. I don't need Samsung pay, as I have a wallet. Awful that they force these programs down our throats as they're nice to have but are completely unnecessary.
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I ordered two from TMo and I'm sure that a root method will pop up soon after release.
Motorola had bootlocks on the Bionic and it was still able to be rooted. I bet within a month we'll be rooting with the rest of them.:good::good:
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The Galaxy S7 came out in March and it took three months to even figure out how to root it. We don't even have a bootloader unlock for the GS7, and it's been a year since it's release. Might want to lower your expectations as devs are moving away from locked down devices like the Galaxy series in the U.S.
Wow this is like posting water is wet.
I stopped rooting my phones, but I'm still against taking away the option. I just never could pull the trigger on losing Samsung Pay permanently.
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Wow this is like posting water is wet.
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Hahaha how true [emoji106]
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*GASP!!* I'm glad you pointed that out....
sireniankyle said:
I stopped rooting my phones, but I'm still against taking away the option. I just never could pull the trigger on losing Samsung Pay permanently.
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I'm in the same boat as you. Unsure of what to do for the foreseeable future. Also KNOX. I actually do care about tripping it. The email app my company uses breaks if KNOX is tripped....

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