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DesireZ ICS Battery life, is yours worse?

Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
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Angelo

I don't know if my battery life is worse on ICS than on CM or stock 2.3. Because I don't have any logs of battery life. Maybe I will do some tests in next week, just for curious.
So... I'm getting 30mA - 34mA drain on idle on Andromadus v13 with default kernel. It is lower than yours. I'm using latest radio now (.19).

After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be indicative of the final product.

I don't have any hard numbers, but based on my moderate usage, (8am to 11pm) I go from 100% to about 40%. Fairly good IMO when compared to sense roms (that i'm used to) but not as good when compared to AOSP GB or MIUI roms..

Hmm I found my battery doing suprisingly well compared to aosp gb, now that I'm using ics its lasting longer than ever.
It probably has to do with better app/process management.
That's my experience..
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Well, this might sound strange to say but i'm actually getting the best battery life i've ever had out of ICS so far with Andromadus v13/Jibwich 1.3 on my phone. I seem to manage to get really long charges of at least 48 hours. Maybe i'm not using my phone as much as i was with GB? I'm not quite sure if that's the case or not, but i'm consistently getting longer lasting charges than ever before with GB.
Thing is though that ICS ROMs DO seem to drain the battery more while the phone is actively being used (in comparison to AOSP GB ROMs), this seems to be the case for me, as well as some other people that i've seen.
There were a few strange versions of Andromadus and Jibwich though which seemed to cause severe battery drain for me. Fortunately, that hasn't been the case with any of the latest versions.
All of that said, i still don't think anything compares to the battery life on G2 Slim (Gingerbread AOSP ROM), that ROM has ridiculously good battery life. With that one, i'd use my phone a fair bit (couple hours of tethering, gaming, lots of texting and calls) and it would still last for at least 44 hours or so.
In the end though, there are still some GB ROMs that have much worse battery life than ICS for me. For example, all CM7 variants that i've tried has always had this frustrating radio related battery drain, then some Sense ROMs seem to drain the battery a bit more than AOSP ROMs too. In response to the OP, i never really got amazing battery life with MIUI, so ICS has been a much better experience so far in that regard.
What i do know for sure though is that battery life with ICS is MUCH better than the stock gingerbread OTA update that our phones got.

thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..

asantaga said:
thanks all,
I've done some checking and according to battery monitor, my JIBWIch rom seams to be fluctuating .. from 36mA to 97mA in standby which to be indicates something's running.. not sure what... Anyone recommend a decent process monitor, there's soo many of them
>After implementing new features and fixing bugs, there is a stage of development called >optimization. That is when you will see all the battery life milked out of a rom.
>And none of the ICS roms are even close to that stage, so battery will probably not be >indicative of the final product.
Agreed..
I'll see how it goes but I might have to go back to Miui (GB) as I use the phone for work..
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Here was my (personal) record breaking charge on Andromadus v13 https://www.dropbox.com/gallery/12263406/1/screenies?h=c9ef42
You can see part of my configuration there (radio and CPU speeds).
On top of what's already there, i use supercharger RC6.9 with option 6 and nitro-lag-nullifier.
here are my usage patterns for good battery life:
-I generally stick to 2g networks as i don't do much web browsing while i'm out but when i do, i just switch to 3g.
-I also don't regularly use any task killers but if i detect any choppyness i kill app using Advanced Task Killer.
-I don't use auto-brightness and instead i just use the notification power widget.
-I do lots and lots of texting, some calls here and there, i often use wifi hotspot and i play 2d games a little bit at times, so i'm generally a light-moderate user.
-I also "debloat" as much as possible by getting rid of any system apps that i don't use.
On a random note, right now, i'm using Jibwich 1.3 and it is so great, battery life seems the same as andromadus v13 but this ROM is actually much more smooth and fluid on the home screen.
I hope this helps a bit, give me a thanks if you found this useful ;D

hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?

asantaga said:
hey thanks for this, yeah very nice!
Just occured to me, im currently in Madrid (Roaming), and the phone's on 2g at the moment, I WONDER.. just wonder, if its constantly hunting for 3G signal.. now that would account for the random power demands...
Meanwhilst I found this app http://androidadvices.com/save-battery-android-phone-enabling-2g-network/
Apart from adding a 2g/3g toggle it also makes the phone go to 2g when sleeping.. I mean when its sleeping we dont need 3g access....
Anyone else tried it? or can recommend a different better/app?
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Go to settings --> wireless and networks --> mobile networks
Now see if you have "use only 2g networks" checked. If you do, that'd be why you're always connecting to 2g networks.
As a battery saving tip, it's best to always check that option when you don't need mobile data (like when you're at home and wifi is available).
In addition to that, if that option is NOT checked, then your phone will connect to 3g networks where applicable, you have to check if your carrier actually uses 3g networks on your plan.
Also that app seems fine, but i wouldn't use the "use 2g when sleep" option because that could cause problems with reception between waking and sleeping because it'll be erratically switching between basebands all the time.

asantaga said:
Hi all,
Just wondering if your all seeing reduced battery life with the ICS builds for the DesireZ?
I was using Miui (2.x) and now trying out Ice Cream JIBWich,and Im discovering the battery life is most certainly less. I've also tried CM9 Alpha and Andromedus r13, all roughly the same.
Battery Widget reports on average 40(ish)mA in sleep, I havent compared it to Miui but just wondering I've done something wrong here..
Install procedure this time was a factory wipe.
Comments?
Angelo
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It looks to me that yes. Tried 3 ICS inluding JIBWich and CM9 based and battery life was reduced to me about 1/3 maybe 1/4. looks like that. Hope some improovment will come in near future.

I'm running Andromadus v13 and it seems to be only a bit worse than the latest CM7 nightly. However, this is only my subjective opinion, it could be that I'm using my phone more with ICS
I also have the .19 radio and the tweaks associated with v13.

Well from what i've seen, ICS has very steep and sudden drops in the battery stats graph when the phone is being used. This is in contrast to many gingberbread ROMs which just have a sloping negative curve on the battery stats graph. This seems to indicate that ICS uses more battery when the phone is being actively used.
I'll post pics after this current charge is over to show a comparison of ICS battery life with Andro v13 and GB battery with Virtuous G-lite 2.0.1.

I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.

louloudi said:
I don't see any difference between GB and the ICS battery usage, maybe because i allways configure it from begining and don't restore apps via titanium backup or any other app...
Also battery needs to calibrate under new ROM and after few charges you will see it working little bit longer and longer...
ps. Do you have disabled Google Talk on ICS fresh install? He is always on after installing and eats a lot of battery.
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I also configure all new rom's from begining and on Affinity 2 - my battery in averange usage die after ~16h but on ISC os about ~13h, I don't know why.
My battery after full charge get 4.212 V , tried clear battery stats bin no effect

My avg runtime on one charge on CM7 w/o oc, with ilwt or pershoot kernel is 60hours (yes! 3 "work days") or atleast 2 days with 50-70 min calls and 25-35 SMS
Turning data and/or wifi when needed makes phone battery least looooonger...
Now testing Andromadus Audacity b1, charged 7.5h ago (4207mV), i will post when empty (or near ~3600-3650)

Also remember that we don't have the proper kernel source for our phone. There are some tweaks that can't really be made yet, and probably a bunch of wasted cpu time where errors and stuff get worked through.
GB battery life was worse than Froyo at the same stage of development. It'll even out better when we have the official kernel source for the DHD, I think.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA

So most ICS based roms have roughly the same battery life?
I'm current on the audacity beta, getting about 20 hours with no charge with moderate use. Gingerbread i could go about a day and acouple more hours.

I'm a bit bitter that I can only use 3G or higher on Bell with my DZ...that means if I want better battery life I need to ditch mobile data altogether. Boo.
Sent from my HTC Desire Z using XDA

Better battery life
All,
I was just about to install "Elitemod", which claims to be tuned to bits wrt battery life, and I noticed AudicityBeta1 was released.. so i thought Id try it out.. and
And yes I think its much better!.. this morning I used it a bit, made a dozen phonecalls, sync'd email and for the first time the "voicecalls" are less than the screen.
(see attachment)
Im wondering if the recently released qualcomm drivers made a difference..
At this rate it will last ~40hrs... probably less but as long as it lasts the day Im happy
Anyone else want to confirm my findings?

AOSP vs Touchwiz Battery Life

Just wanted to get some peoples opinions on battery life between the two. After owning the device for 4 days it seems that when I am on AOSP the battery life is somewhat worse but it may just be in my head so I wanted to know what you guys have found.

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Just wanted to get some peoples opinions on battery life between the two. After owning the device for 4 days it seems that when I am on AOSP the battery life is somewhat worse but it may just be in my head so I wanted to know what you guys have found.
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I would say it will be better on a stock de-bloated rom until someone cracks hardware acceleration in AOSP. I flashed AOKP noticed the CPU loads were almost always about 1.0 higher then the stock rom and I would imagine this is because the CPU is doing all of the canvas drawing.

[Battery] Froyo vs. GB vs. ICS

I've always seen people saying that GB/ICS has better battery life than Froyo and I don't understand why. I have had the Vibrant for 2 years, I've flashed almost all popular roms but I don't know how people get better battery on GB/ICS.
To tell the truth, I haven't had much experiences with GB. It was just bad. Performance ain't much better than Froyo (perhaps worse), stability is nowhere close since there's no official release (source) for the Vibrant, battery is just worse than Froyo. GB didn't last more than a week on my phone and I never looked back. Even Sombionix himself said that GB overall is just a worse ROM compared to Froyo.
ICS roms have decent battery life but again, they aren't better than Froyo at all. I really liked using ICS, it has a plethora of features, performance improvements over Froyo and the interface are just sick but the poorer battery life is keeping me away from ICS roms. I have tried ICZen, Slim, Passion, RemICS and CM9, none of their battery life beats Froyo really. I usually charge the phone fully before going to sleep and when I wake up, battery will drop to 91~92% with nothing on, no 3G/Wifi/apps at all. Froyo would have had much crazier idle battery consumption, being about 95~96% most of the time through the night. Another thing about ICS is that the GPS is seriously broken and if activated, the GPSLocationProvider will drain the hell outta your battery...
P/S: This is mainly a battery life discussion thread, please do not talk about how easy you could charge the phone or so.

Martezgarki said:
I've always seen people saying that GB/ICS has better battery life than Froyo and I don't understand why. I have had the Vibrant for 2 years, I've flashed almost all popular roms but I don't know how people get better battery on GB/ICS.
To tell the truth, I haven't had much experiences with GB. It was just bad. Performance ain't much better than Froyo (perhaps worse), stability is nowhere close since there's no official release (source) for the Vibrant, battery is just worse than Froyo. GB didn't last more than a week on my phone and I never looked back. Even Sombionix himself said that GB overall is just a worse ROM compared to Froyo.
ICS roms have decent battery life but again, they aren't better than Froyo at all. I really liked using ICS, it has a plethora of features, performance improvements over Froyo and the interface are just sick but the poorer battery life is keeping me away from ICS roms. I have tried ICZen, Slim, Passion, RemICS and CM9, none of their battery life beats Froyo really. I usually charge the phone fully before going to sleep and when I wake up, battery will drop to 91~92% with nothing on, no 3G/Wifi/apps at all. Froyo would have had much crazier idle battery consumption, being about 95~96% most of the time through the night. Another thing about ICS is that the GPS is seriously broken and if activated, the GPSLocationProvider will drain the hell outta your battery...
P/S: This is mainly a battery life discussion thread, please do not talk about how easy you could charge the phone or so.
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I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone posting about awesome battery life on GB....especially not better than froyo. I don't even think I've ever really seen anyone say that ICS battery life was better than froyo either for that matter O-o I mean, for me...battery life is pretty satisfying on all of them....but for me, if I can wake up in the morning and use my vibrant to my hearts content and when I go to sleep still have some charge,...I am happy lol depending on what Rom I'm running though...I tend to get between 1-2 days so I'm usually happy. But froyo is definitely the best standby and such...on ICS I may have like 35% by the end of the night...but froyo, i might be at 55% or even 75% still lol

I have seen a plenty:
"With an unofficial upgrade to my Samsung Galaxy S (mid-2010!!! phone), ICS made battery life much more useful than GB or Froyo ever did. A lot smoother too, and that's just on 512 mb of RAM!"
Source: http://www.androidcentral.com/why-we-dont-need-another-version-android-year
Sometimes it just makes me wonder is it because that our ICS build was never official, that's why other phones are enjoying better battery life than us?
The reason why I care that much is because I'm using the Vibrant and I'm not from the states, there's no way for me to get a replacement if the battery goes haywire and I plan to use this phone for a long time to come. The fact that ICS uses battery faster just means that battery is gonna die sooner.

Wow vibrant still in the figth, grat phone by the way.
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My Vibrant's battery performace is horrible on many roms. The worst is at CM 7, 7.1, ICS Passion. It gets better at Bionix (Froyo) and to my surprise Slim ICS gave me the best battery performance. I pair Sub Zero kernel with Slim and this combination give me approximately 24 hours of normal usage in one full charge.
It's not good enough, I know. But my phone has the crappiest battery I ever seen. With ICS, I can barely get more than 8 hours with normal usage. I got to turn off 3G, GPS, Wifi, no wifgets etc for the battery to be acceptable for normal use and that is unacceptable.
So I think Slim ICS + SubZero kernel definitely worth a try for great battery.
Martezgarki said:
I've always seen people saying that GB/ICS has better battery life than Froyo and I don't understand why. I have had the Vibrant for 2 years, I've flashed almost all popular roms but I don't know how people get better battery on GB/ICS.
To tell the truth, I haven't had much experiences with GB. It was just bad. Performance ain't much better than Froyo (perhaps worse), stability is nowhere close since there's no official release (source) for the Vibrant, battery is just worse than Froyo. GB didn't last more than a week on my phone and I never looked back. Even Sombionix himself said that GB overall is just a worse ROM compared to Froyo.
ICS roms have decent battery life but again, they aren't better than Froyo at all. I really liked using ICS, it has a plethora of features, performance improvements over Froyo and the interface are just sick but the poorer battery life is keeping me away from ICS roms. I have tried ICZen, Slim, Passion, RemICS and CM9, none of their battery life beats Froyo really. I usually charge the phone fully before going to sleep and when I wake up, battery will drop to 91~92% with nothing on, no 3G/Wifi/apps at all. Froyo would have had much crazier idle battery consumption, being about 95~96% most of the time through the night. Another thing about ICS is that the GPS is seriously broken and if activated, the GPSLocationProvider will drain the hell outta your battery...
P/S: This is mainly a battery life discussion thread, please do not talk about how easy you could charge the phone or so.
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Heres from my experiences so far: (crappiest battery to best) GB > FROYO > ICS
All GB roms for me except Revolution ROM JVQ and a few others had the worst battery life in history. Froyo is better, but as soon as I do something on the phone, bam, it drains. Best battery rom for me on froyo is probably Bionix V Fishmanmod edition. ICS, tons of good stuff. SlimICS with Subzero = best battery for me.
Now for Jellybean So far, it has actually pretty good battery. im still testing though. On CM10 Preview by FE (v8) with devil 1.0.4 test3 Jb kernel, its pretty good. Pretty smooth, although Google Now lags a little bit from time to time. Its very nice. Think I'll be staying on it for a bit.

Hobbesfed said:
Heres from my experiences so far: (crappiest battery to best) GB > FROYO > ICS
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You do see that means GB is greater than froyo which is greater than ICS
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ICS is best for me, GB and Froyo were similar
ICS seems to have the best DeepSleep/Not being used battery usage. I've used Bionix, MIUI Lithium (GB), ICS Passion and ICS Zen. When I switch to ICS I was able to stop using Juice Defender and just use without worrying about it.

I think gb was a little better because I got so sick of all the ics stuff.

henkohan said:
My Vibrant's battery performace is horrible on many roms. The worst is at CM 7, 7.1, ICS Passion.
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Oh man tell me about it. I could barely muster a day's worth of use on a full charge running CM7. Hopefully Slim ICS will be better in that regard.

Which is more stable, and best battery life?

Lineage OS, AOSP, or Stock Android?

Nytrikx said:
Lineage OS, AOSP, or Stock Android?
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I have no personal experience with Lineage but I was never a fan of Cyanogenmod and have read multiple posts that suggest it's pretty buggy. Stock will depend on which version of Android you are talking about. All versions of stock are pretty stable. Marshmallow is outdated but some people prefer it to Nougat because it gets better battery life than Nougat and works with Xposed. Nougat gets the latest features and security updates but for some reason Google has been pushing the default kernel settings very high recently so people have been experiencing poor battery life and the operating system itself eating up much more battery than in the past. AOSP would depend on the Rom you are running. I use Dirty Unicorns which is extremely stable and has better battery life than stock. Some Aosp Roms are more buggy and may provide better or worse battery life than stock depending on how they are programmed. There are also stock based Roms like Cortex, which adds Pixel features and gets the best battery life of any Rom I've been on. But the downside of a stock based Rom is that there is no OMS support for Substratum theming. My personal preference is for Dirty Unicorns but different people like different Roms.

I went to dirty unicorns and to me it's is faster than stock ROM cortex. I also like DU because it is oms and that is very important to me. Also having nav bar button customization is a plus. I would only jump back to stock if aosp takes to long to release

Stock is always most stable and allows for instant, effortless updates when available.
In terms of battery life, varies on your usage, I've had battery life that I would expect from a 3450 mAh phone.
You would see people buy a 6P and then start installing ROMs hours after and claim to get better/phenomenal battery life. Funny thing is that they have no idea what baseline is -_-
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richii0207 said:
Stock is always most stable and allows for instant, effortless updates when available.
In terms of battery life, varies on your usage, I've had battery life that I would expect from a 3450 mAh phone.
You would see people buy a 6P and then start installing ROMs hours after and claim to get better/phenomenal battery life. Funny thing is that they have no idea what baseline is -_-
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I went from Cortex to stock 7.1.2 for several days because I wanted to try stock again. The drop off in battery life was extremely noticable. People have also noted that on recent builds of stock if you look at the battery stats Android operating system and screen are eating up much more battery than they used to.
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I went to dirty unicorns and to me it's is faster than stock ROM cortex. I also like DU because it is oms and that is very important to me. Also having nav bar button customization is a plus. I would only jump back to stock if aosp takes to long to release
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I didn't notice DU being any faster but I do like OMS support. There always seem to be problems with Substratum if you don't have it.

Bro, Chads uber obviously is the best. It is on clang 5.0.0 and is extremely fast and stable and I get up to 8 hours sot and weeks on standby. Also I built wakeblock for uber so I can block wakelocks to save even more battery.

Nytrikx said:
Lineage OS, AOSP, or Stock Android?
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Hello,
All ROMs should be stable. Stock is bloated, using a custom ROM helps getting ride of all the unnecessary stuff running in the background. Depending on your usage, battery life will fluctuate.
I only browse, send SMS/MMS, take pictures, videos and watch youtube with my phone. Mostly over WiFi. Don't have social network apps syncing in the background all the time. Yeah, i get 7 hours sot...
But, i guess the same with 3G/4G + Facebook + WhatsApp, etc... And I would be down to 3 hours sot obviously...
Don't let people decide for you which ROM is the best, because there is none. The best ROM is the one you like. These guys put a lot of time and effort to release their ROM. Some more than others, but still, saying this or this ROM is the best is kind of dumb and also insulting to other developers.
If there was a "best" ROM, the forum would only have one. Because everybody would use it. Or there is a best ROM and in this case those using the others are completely blind to see the truth?
Lol...
Check the forum and decide by yourself. Some are stock based, others aosp, lightweight or filled with a lot of options and customization.
Takes a few minutes to setup and if you don't like one, switch to another...
Happy flashing.
Cheers...

DEVILOPS 007 said:
Bro, Chads uber obviously is the best. It is on clang 5.0.0 and is extremely fast and stable and I get up to 8 hours sot and weeks on standby. Also I built wakeblock for uber so I can block wakelocks to save even more battery.
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You can get 8 hrs SOT with any rom, including stock, given the proper usage.
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You can get 8 hrs SOT with any rom, including stock, given the proper usage.
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Not really with sot. It depends highly on the rom and kernel.

Rom recommendation

Hi everyone, I m currently on oxygen os 3.5.9 and my battery drains like crazy. Can you guys please recommend me a rom that gives good screen on time. I am even willing to downgrade to lollipop because battery life is really crucial for me. Thanks!!

I'm in the same case, looking for the best choice with the maximum stability and good battery life
I tried so but returned to LineAge even if the battery life is not really good but the ROM is the most stable ever now
Tonight will try Carbon to test, but if someone found the best compromise in one ROM That it notifies us

Try AOSCP. It's really good.

Moyses I tried lineage and yes the same issue battery is not that great. Hopefully we will find a good battery friendly rom. Let me know how the carbon rom works for you.

Ny_3 thanks I will check it out. What's the average screen on time that you get with this rom?

I would either recommend AospExtended/AEX or Resurrection Remix if you like customizability. I am using AEX and don't have any problems with battery life.

shweta245 said:
Ny_3 thanks I will check it out. What's the average screen on time that you get with this rom?
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Well I've got 3 and a half hours of SOT but it's really the best I've got on a custom rom (guess my battery is bad). I actually bought a new battery 2 days ago so I will have to check how it is after that. But thats basicaly what I get most of the time using FB messenger Spotify and YouTube. Keep in mind its not full of features. It's kinda like Paranoid 6 : Smooth, not full of features, and really stable.