So guys, I'm a long standing fan of Sony who have always admired their craftsmanship and design. So it was a particularly exciting day for me when I bought myself the new Sony Xperia Z1, after having saved up a lot of hard earned money. Thanks to some Sony friends, I've been following the Z1 pretty much since its inception, and have spent the better part of last 7-8 months waiting for THE phone to be released. Coming from the HTC One, the Sony Xperia Z1 is the worst Rs. 43,000 I have ever spent on a product in my life.
- The issue started when I noticed that the phone display won't turn on randomly. While WhatsApping, I get a "Phone is shutting down" message and there, gone. I hard reset twice and waiting for 5-7 mins before I could confirm that I didn't just end up with a pretty paperweight. Since then, for every hour of using the phone, I have to restart at least once or twice.
- Auto brightness, I don't think Sony get's the AUTO part. It simply doesn't work! And each time after a forced reboot, my display refuses to switch off. I mean, the background is black and LCD brightness is maximum (really, the black looks GREY and nothing close to black) and the display doesn't switch off. Pressing the power button brings up the lockscreen. Have to manually reset brightness settings again and again till it's fixed.
- I thought that the issue was software related, so I updated to the latest .531 FW for my region (INDIA), and thought it was the end of it. Well, IT WASN'T. These issues have been bugging me a LOT, and it hasn't even been 24 HOURS since I got my phone.
- Coming to the CAMERA of the phone. Well, it's great outdoors when I don't use flash. What happens when I use flash? EVERYTHING TURNS NOISY & GRAINY even in indoor conditions. If anybody wants samples PM me their number I'll whatsapp it to you. It's soo bad. SOOO BAD. 20.7 MP my foot, my old Xperia Sola with it's ****ty 5MP cam and flash takes better pictures with flash on.
So what have I done about all this? I contacted HomeShop18 for a replacement unit, to which they have agreed and will give me a replacement once I send my phone to them, within 7 days. But what's the guarantee that I get a working piece this time round? I have a feeling I'll get the same ****ty display and phone as the Z1, which it is. Never had such a poor experience with a high-end Smartphone. Wish my HTC One was back to me (sadly it wasn't mine to keep for more than 2 months), I hate the Xperia Z1.
If I get a bad unit again, I'll ask for a full money return and probably will never ask any of my friends to purchase a Sony Smartphone. Oh, and I'm a reviewer for a tech site. No prizes for guessing how the review is going to be if the next unit is equally fabulous.
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So guys, I'm a long standing fan of Sony who have always admired their craftsmanship and design. So it was a particularly exciting day for me when I bought myself the new Sony Xperia Z1, after having saved up a lot of hard earned money. Thanks to some Sony friends, I've been following the Z1 pretty much since its inception, and have spent the better part of last 7-8 months waiting for THE phone to be released. Coming from the HTC One, the Sony Xperia Z1 is the worst Rs. 43,000 I have ever spent on a product in my life.
- The issue started when I noticed that the phone display won't turn on randomly. While WhatsApping, I get a "Phone is shutting down" message and there, gone. I hard reset twice and waiting for 5-7 mins before I could confirm that I didn't just end up with a pretty paperweight. Since then, for every hour of using the phone, I have to restart at least once or twice.
- Auto brightness, I don't think Sony get's the AUTO part. It simply doesn't work! And each time after a forced reboot, my display refuses to switch off. I mean, the background is black and LCD brightness is maximum (really, the black looks GREY and nothing close to black) and the display doesn't switch off. Pressing the power button brings up the lockscreen. Have to manually reset brightness settings again and again till it's fixed.
- I thought that the issue was software related, so I updated to the latest .531 FW for my region (INDIA), and thought it was the end of it. Well, IT WASN'T. These issues have been bugging me a LOT, and it hasn't even been 24 HOURS since I got my phone.
- Coming to the CAMERA of the phone. Well, it's great outdoors when I don't use flash. What happens when I use flash? EVERYTHING TURNS NOISY & GRAINY even in indoor conditions. If anybody wants samples PM me their number I'll whatsapp it to you. It's soo bad. SOOO BAD. 20.7 MP my foot, my old Xperia Sola with it's ****ty 5MP cam and flash takes better pictures with flash on.
So what have I done about all this? I contacted HomeShop18 for a replacement unit, to which they have agreed and will give me a replacement once I send my phone to them, within 7 days. But what's the guarantee that I get a working piece this time round? I have a feeling I'll get the same ****ty display and phone as the Z1, which it is. Never had such a poor experience with a high-end Smartphone. Wish my HTC One was back to me (sadly it wasn't mine to keep for more than 2 months), I hate the Xperia Z1.
If I get a bad unit again, I'll ask for a full money return and probably will never ask any of my friends to purchase a Sony Smartphone. Oh, and I'm a reviewer for a tech site. No prizes for guessing how the review is going to be if the next unit is equally fabulous.
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Sounds to me like you have probably got a dodgy phone let them send you another one and take it from there and totally agree with the camera and there is a rumour going around that it's not the final firmware which will be arriving in the coming weeks or so which should mean big improvements hopefully.
The phone should not be behaving in the way you are describing so hopefully the second one will be better.
I agree the camera in it's current state is really bad, but really, worse than the HTC One? even my iPhone 3GS took better pictures than the horrible HTC one. Ultrapixels my behind.
I feel like going and getting a G2 now.
this thread relates to you
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2455514
should just post here than making multiple rant threads.
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Jesus mate, calm your tits, you obviously got a defective unit. This stuff happens every now and again mate, it sucks, but it happens as the people building these phones are human as well. Get it replaced and give it a proper go instead of ranting about (obviously) defective phones.
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I feel like going and getting a G2 now.
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For the past one week I went thro' many articles and reviews reg z1 in which I compared many 100%crops of pics taken by z1,display,video samples,etc and even tested 2demo devices.....from that its very clear that LG G2 is the clear winner in most aspects...so I highly recommend G2
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You know I hate pointless pathetic threads like this. So your not happy with the Z1 so you start a new thread to bring others down who love the device. Did you stand on a tower block and shout this device is ****? You are a tech reviewer and you are going to write a **** review, wuppee do da. You dont like the phone then send it back, get your refund and get the HTC One. TBH I will not miss you or anyone who just whinges like some spoilt child!!!
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- The issue started when I noticed that the phone display won't turn on randomly. While WhatsApping, I get a "Phone is shutting down" message and there, gone. I hard reset twice and waiting for 5-7 mins before I could confirm that I didn't just end up with a pretty paperweight. Since then, for every hour of using the phone, I have to restart at least once or twice.
- Auto brightness, I don't think Sony get's the AUTO part. It simply doesn't work! And each time after a forced reboot, my display refuses to switch off. I mean, the background is black and LCD brightness is maximum (really, the black looks GREY and nothing close to black) and the display doesn't switch off. Pressing the power button brings up the lockscreen. Have to manually reset brightness settings again and again till it's fixed.
- I thought that the issue was software related, so I updated to the latest .531 FW for my region (INDIA), and thought it was the end of it. Well, IT WASN'T. These issues have been bugging me a LOT, and it hasn't even been 24 HOURS since I got my phone.
- Coming to the CAMERA of the phone. Well, it's great outdoors when I don't use flash. What happens when I use flash? EVERYTHING TURNS NOISY & GRAINY even in indoor conditions. If anybody wants samples PM me their number I'll whatsapp it to you. It's soo bad. SOOO BAD. 20.7 MP my foot, my old Xperia Sola with it's ****ty 5MP cam and flash takes better pictures with flash on.
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I received mine yesterday and updated Immediately to the latest 534 fw
1) I don't have any issue with screen turning on, or not turning on
2) rightness at max => Black is still perfectly black on mine
3) Camera, I don't know, haven't had a chance to test it out, but for this prt just wait for a good update from Sony.
I'm very happy with my XZ, it's better then my old Xperia Z
Last but not least: Don't open up new threads for something like this when there are already threads about unhappy customers!
Apoxx said:
I agree the camera in it's current state is really bad, but really, worse than the HTC One? even my iPhone 3GS took better pictures than the horrible HTC one. Ultrapixels my behind.
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3GS taking better pics than the HTC One? Haha, don't think so
(My mother still has a 3GS and I also had the device...it doesn't take better pics than the HTC, that is certain)
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I agree the camera in it's current state is really bad, but really, worse than the HTC One? even my iPhone 3GS took better pictures than the horrible HTC one. Ultrapixels my behind.
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I doubt that so much that I will stake my reputation on it, the HTC One M7 takes arguably the best 'snap' shots produced by any smartphone to date. The Apple product you mention is definitely not a smartphone and definitely cannot rival HTC One M7, S4, XZ nor the XZ1, your remarks are ridiculously aloof to say the least! I own all above devices including the Z1 and can confirm 3gs does not take good photos at all, in fact if you want to compare rubbish with rubbish the Alcatel early model camera phone took batter pics than 3gs and believe me that was a real hunk of poo!
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Jesus mate, calm your tits, you obviously got a defective unit. This stuff happens every now and again mate, it sucks, but it happens as the people building these phones are human as well. Get it replaced and give it a proper go instead of ranting about (obviously) defective phones.
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I got exactly the same issues as him. Belgian region. Factory resetted it 2 times, keeps coming back, no update available.
Reboots
Unresponsive while notification light is still flashing. And message notifications still work cuz mail notification sounds works.
When turned off, wont startup again, have to reset multiple times.
Can't turn of the damn screen. About 2 hrs after a reset, when you put it on stanby, the backlight stays on an looses 1%batt/min.
The phone is really weak, not good quality at all. I am returning it for full refund, I'm not going to waste my time asking for replacements when so many faulty units are in circulation. Reminds me of the HTC one X. So far my Xperia Z1 adventure.
It is not a good phone. Stay away from it.
I made videos about it. The screen black are also non existent. Good resolution, very bad sceen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai3M7ndr6kY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pgy7l5wY-g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDe9GChq-vY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STZxKbEnakM
It's raining Trolls! Hallelujah!
Stop feeding these babies FFS!
I don't think it's trolls.I got mine yesterday and can safely say that this is the worst phone I've ever had.I can't even return it because I stupidly exchanged it from a HTC one and I'm outside my exchange period.
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It's raining Trolls! Hallelujah!
Stop feeding these babies FFS!
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I don't troll, it is the truth. My videos don't lie about it. My xperia z1 is useless as I can't even turn it on half the time, or wake it out standby
And yes you can say "you just got a faulty unit, it happens". But that has been said too much about the z1. It is not just a random faulty unit anymore, it are a lot of faulty units for "high-end" quality.
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I don't troll, it is the truth. My videos don't lie about it. My xperia z1 is useless as I can't even turn it on half the time, or wake it out standby
And yes you can say "you just got a faulty unit, it happens". But that has been said too much about the z1. It is not just a random faulty unit, it are a lot of faulty units for "high-end" quality.
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I don't believe you, no way, are you out to discredit Sony like SS tried with HTC? I have all above phones and don't believe you! Go and return your faulty product is my opinion.
I've had the XZ1 since it was released in UK 21st sept, and had none of the issues I've seen pop up on the forums recently, it happens there will always be lemons no matter what phone you buy so stop complaining and saying the phone is the worst, just because you got a bad one. Get over it send it back it's obviously faulty use some bloody common sense.
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I don't believe you, no way, are you out to discredit Sony like SS tried with HTC? I have all above phones and don't believe you! Go and return your faulty product is my opinion.
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Dude watch my videos of my newly purchased z1. And if you watch my previous posts you can see that I defended the z1 until I got one myself. Turns out I was the fool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ai3M7ndr6kY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pgy7l5wY-g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDe9GChq-vY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=STZxKbEnakM
Why the hell would I make up these faults?!
I just want to warn people what they can expect. Some can't get full refunds like me and are stuck with it. It is still their desicion.
Thank you for sharing this with us, I rather wait for Google Nexus 5 now.
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It is a common thing to get a faulty phone. That's why I never buy a new phone the day it is released. My advice to everyone, wait for the next shipment to avoid any possible faulty or defective phones.
And for those who don't believe ... It didn't happen to you!
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I'm curious if there is an affect on your buying decision after reading the reviews.
I so want this phone but all this talk about the display not being up to par has put some doubt in my mind now as to whether I go through with purchasing the Z. GSM arena and Phone Arena share similar views regarding the display, which I wasn't expecting.
I will be taking a look at the device at my local phones4u, and if I find the screen to be disappointing I will unfortunately cancel my order. I really really really hope this wont be the case though.
Yeah wavering here...
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I'm curious if there is an affect on your buying decision after reading the reviews.
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What is there in those reviews that would put me off from buying one?
Problems with camera images? Not that big of a deal, I don't make photos with my phone for a living. Lag? I doubt there is any. Battery life? People report a whole day of medium to heavy usage, which is what I get from my Galaxy S3 anyway. Build quality? It's waterproof, I don't mind having to open flaps every time I want to plug in my headset.
What else is there?
Where is the option "i dont care about reviews, i want it and im gonna get it regardless" ?
I dont trust reviews. Note 2 and S3 were reviewed as the best phones even - and i'm really disappointed by those two. It's funny how reviewers sometimes ignore obvious flaws about one phone, but riot about a tiny detail in another. Reviews are not objective - so i don't really care about them. It's nice to read and compare opinions, but i always prefer to just get the phone and decide for myself.
So unless at least 5-10 review say something really bad about the battery ( like not lasting a full day even on light use, which is not the case ) i'm not going to even think about cancelling.
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What is there in those reviews that would put me off from buying one?
Problems with camera images? Not that big of a deal, I don't make photos with my phone for a living. Lag? I doubt there is any. Battery life? People report a whole day of medium to heavy usage, which is what I get from my Galaxy S3 anyway. Build quality? It's waterproof, I don't mind having to open flaps every time I want to plug in my headset.
What else is there?
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I think most are worried about the screen, every thing else seems okay/perfect (some may not like the camera)
I have a pre-order for mine but I am a little worried.. The camera from what I've seen looks perfectly decent, and it's bound to be better than my HOX which kinda sucks compared to my last iPhone. My one concern is the display which is a pretty big deal breaker, I actually had a quick play with one in a Three store yesterday and the display was very wishy washy (Even after I had turned it down from max brightness). Originally everyone had said this was purely an issue with pre-production panels, but after the reviews claiming to be on retail devices this had worried me even more.
Think I'm going to pop into a P4U store as well to have a play, maybe there is more chance of those being full retail units seeing as they're available a little after.. Who knows!
I'm still getting it, I've seen the phone in a couple of three stores and didn't see any problems with the display, but then I'm not particularly picky.
I'm still getting it, my main reasons are:
Camera. I know Sony make decent camera phones, I have a Note 2 which is fairly decent, not brill in low light scenarios, not as good as my HOX was.
Build quality. My last two phones, S3 and Note 2...enough said!
Screen. I miss my HOX LCD screen, AMOLEDS are just a bit too false!
Size. My current phone is the Note 2, it's the only negative side of it, it's too big for one handed use nothing else. Looking forward to getting a phone that I can use with one hand comfortably again.
So I'm still getting it!
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Screen aside I am getting concerned about the camera performance, I don't expect it to completely match up to the 920 but I was hoping it would be reasonably close.
Reviews are irrelevant. Go play with the phone at a Sony store once it becomes available and decide for yourself.
Reviewers have their own agendas...
I was planning on getting the ZL if it came out before the end of February or first week of March..... However Sony announced that Canada isn't getting the ZL till April.... And on top of that all of the issues with the inconsistent screen reviews have made me decide to just wait . Since Sony decided to force me to wait till April the logical thing to do is wait for info on the s4/Optimus g pro/ m7 / xphone, and reevaluate the market at that time
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I am still getting it. Lets hear reviews of international version first aT feb 28, and lets see.
Really wanted to get this phone, but it's not coming to Canada until April. That's just too far away and sadly I am forced to go another route. I really did want this phone though...
the display doesn't look bad in this vid(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFEzXilA8B8) IMO, but why is bottom bar gray instead of black (where the home, and back button are)?
Was quite iffy since anything that offers a fHD resolution and no 3000mA+ battery doesn't get me interested much. But I guess this is a dealbreaker for me. Anywho, good luck to those who've ordered this!
I will wait for a full GSMarena review, then wait for it to appear in stores here and go test it myself and compare. The only problem for me could be bad color contrast.
Not amazing camera? - No problem for me, digital cameras are not amazing even if you stuck 9999 megapixels in them and super xmrozksda sensors. I take maybe 3 pics a month and those usually go to instagram where horrible filters and compression will make it look like a picture from 2006 anyway. If I want to make good pics I'll take my camera (or a friend will).
Bad viewing angles? - Again, the only time it will be a problem is when I let my mates to play games on it and will want to see how they are doing.
I just need a new phone kinda ASAP and Sony is releasing soon. The new HTC could be interesting for me but I'm not sure when it's coming out. I hate Samsung phones so GS4 is not an option either.
^Why do you 'hate' Samsung? Color contrast of SAMLOED I'm guessing
Getting the ZL, but it's more or less the same phone for the most part. Reviews aren't affecting my excitement to get it one bit. Can't wait for it to finally hit Canada!
Getting the ZL also. I know our country was one of the mentioned ones to get this device on the 1st quarter but if it would reach till april then mostlikely HTC M7 would prolly steal 50% of my decision to go back to sony. I love Sense UI and not Sony UI but I decided to ditch HTC Butterfly and go with sony but if they let HTC M7 pass them again then bye2 and I'll stick with HTC. Sad because Sony was my 1st android phone coming from nokia when they ditched maemo OS over microsoft.
I just wanted to let you all know my first impressions of the Z1s. A bit of background, I just traded in the LG G2. Before that I had the Lumia 1020, HTC One, S3, and then before that the iPhone.
Holding the Z1s in my hand feels very nice. It has a weight to it which just feels good. A lot of the phones such as the S3 feel like a toy or like you'd break it just by touching it. The Z1s does not have this issue.
The bezels on the top and bottom are HUGE. It doesn't look so bad once you get used to it but it's still a small issue (won't stop me from liking this phone though).
The screen gets quite bright and even when I'm outside it is visible. HTC One was quite the opposite and taking it outside in direct light was a nightmare. The viewing angles are not as bad as the reviews might make you think. I was expecting the worse but it's not bad at all. (And I still have the included screen protectors on).
This thing is ZIPPY. It just glides from one screen to the next. I know the specs help but I also think the very minimal UI is also a reason. I like it, reminds me a bit of stock google. I will be putting my favorite launcher on it (action launcher) and I don't think the silky performance will be affected.
Battery life right now sucks, but that is because it's downloading my apps/settings/etc. Sucking right now is a given so I can't really comment on it.
The camera is freakin nice. Coming from the Lumia 1020 and it's 40MP sensor I have high expectations for what can be done on a phone. This camera is easily the best camera on an ANDROID device. If google would get it's head out of it's ass and allow developers to adjust the shutter delay then it'd be even better.
The one big thing I hate right now, is the locked bootloader. I'm not sure what the hell Sony/TMobile was thinking. Hopefully it gets cracked soon. I'm a tweaker, the kind of guy that will try a different rom every week until I find the perfect one for me. Even knowing it is locked, I love this phone. SOMEONE will crack it open... I hope.
I'll come back and update this after a day or two then after a week or two. So far though, (even with the crappy locked bootloader) I'd suggest this phone to everyone.
Rob
You can unlock the BL if you want to.
how is the feel of the smaller screen .. 4.3" ?
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You can unlock the BL if you want to.
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Not on all Z1's. He mentioned T-Mobile, and if he got it from them he can not unlock the bootloader. At least not without a new crack developed but I don't know if that will happen anytime soon.
Edit: I realized he said Z1S which is definitely T-Mobile and definitely not unlockable.
@robamacaf - great review, thanks
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I just wanted to let you all know my first impressions of the Z1s. A bit of background, I just traded in the LG G2. Before that I had the Lumia 1020, HTC One, S3, and then before that the iPhone
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How does the Z1s camera compare to the G2? I'm in the same boat as you, thinking about switching to the Z1s from the G2. I'm only concerned about the differences in battery life and camera quality, at least one would have to be better than the G2 for me to make the switch! Looking forward to your impressions. Thanks!
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The one big thing I hate right now, is the locked bootloader. I'm not sure what the hell Sony/TMobile was thinking. Hopefully it gets cracked soon. I'm a tweaker, the kind of guy that will try a different rom every week until I find the perfect one for me. Even knowing it is locked, I love this phone. SOMEONE will crack it open... I hope.
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Also, the number of Z1 cases (bumpers mainly) that I want can't be used on the Z1S because of that moved headphone jack!
I'm on the fence of getting a Z1S. It doesn't have aluminum sides like the Z1 counterpart. What's your opinion on it?
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That is the Z1 compact, not the Z1s
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How does the Z1s camera compare to the G2? I'm in the same boat as you, thinking about switching to the Z1s from the G2. I'm only concerned about the differences in battery life and camera quality, at least one would have to be better than the G2 for me to make the switch! Looking forward to your impressions. Thanks!
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The camera is the reason I switched. I was hoping for good things with the G2 but after I got it I tried taking photos of my kids in the living room at night and had to take 12+ photos to get one that wasn't blurry. It was frustrating. The Z1s has bigger pixels to capture more light and a higher resolution. I'll take some night photos tonight but so far the day time photos are great. If you don't know the Z1s does the same thing as the Lumia 1020 when it comes to photos. It takes a 20MP photo and then oversamples it down to the 8MP photo to keep the size down but also provide good details of the higher photos. This also allows the lossless zooming.
I'll give updated impressions but so far I really like it. We'll see how low light shots go tonight
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Also, the number of Z1 cases (bumpers mainly) that I want can't be used on the Z1S because of that moved headphone jack!
I'm on the fence of getting a Z1S. It doesn't have aluminum sides like the Z1 counterpart. What's your opinion on it?
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I think it looks and feels premium. After doing some research they made it plastic to get better signal. It still looks metal so I don't mind it.
One thing I don't like is the placement of the USB port. I don't mind the flap, it takes 1 second to get off plus I knew the flaps were part of the waterproof phone. So I don't have an issue with it. I just don't like the USB port in the top left corner. It feels....wrong. Makes it hard to use the phone when it's plugged in and charging. I'll get used to it, but right now it's a bit of an annoyance.
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I think it looks and feels premium. After doing some research they made it plastic to get better signal. It still looks metal so I don't mind it.
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Answer this one more question and I'm sold on it.
How is the camera in low light compared to the HTC One?
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Answer this one more question and I'm sold on it.
How is the camera in low light compared to the HTC One?
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I will let you know tonight. This was the big thing that I loved with the HTC One and Lumia 1020. The HTC One ROCKED in low light but the low details because of the low MP really hurt the phone. I'd go back to HTC One or HTC One Two in a heart beat if they raised the MP. I switched off of the LG G2 because the low light wasn't impressive at all. I'll post back in about 5-6 hours with pictures. I'll take some outside when the sun is going down, when the sun is gone, indoors and out.
Just wanted to give you a heads up. I traded in my Z1 back to Tmobile. While I can do with bad screen angles and such one thing I can't deal with is a bad battery that is non-removable. When I heard the Z1s had a 3000 battery I figured it'd be great because that is a pretty huge battery. My LG G2 was the same size and could easily go 1-2 days between charges. My Z1s was dropping 8-12% an hour with everything turned off.
I never bothered looking to see if the battery was ok before I bought it because everything said it was 3000mhz. Which is is. But after researching it after the fact I found out the Z1/Z1s has some of the worst battery life out of any major phone released in the last year. That coupled with the fact it has a locked bootloader made me return it. A great camera is only good if the phone has juice.
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Just wanted to give you a heads up. I traded in my Z1 back to Tmobile. While I can do with bad screen angles and such one thing I can't deal with is a bad battery that is non-removable. When I heard the Z1s had a 3000 battery I figured it'd be great because that is a pretty huge battery. My LG G2 was the same size and could easily go 1-2 days between charges. My Z1s was dropping 8-12% an hour with everything turned off.
I never bothered looking to see if the battery was ok before I bought it because everything said it was 3000mhz. Which is is. But after researching it after the fact I found out the Z1/Z1s has some of the worst battery life out of any major phone released in the last year. That coupled with the fact it has a locked bootloader made me return it. A great camera is only good if the phone has juice.
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you do know that a phone's battery is worst when hyou first get it, because it starts off low and the phone is trying to reinstall all your apps and services, contacts, media, etc? You really only get a truly good read on a battery after all that is complete and the battery has gone through several full charging cycles.
My Z1 drops 1% in 6-10 hours and has one of the best battery life of any phone, especially in standby.
It once didn't even drop 1% after 10 hours, at that point I already thought the screen was frozen because the battery percentage didn't move, but the standby was just so good.
Screen on time is also great, just recently I reached 3 days (73 hours) with 4.5 hours of screen on.
Many threads around here prove the phone's great battery life.
And don't blame the phone or Sony for having an unlockable bootloader. Blame t-mobile as they probably demanded this.
I agree with the non removable battery, I don't like it.
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you do know that a phone's battery is worst when hyou first get it, because it starts off low and the phone is trying to reinstall all your apps and services, contacts, media, etc? You really only get a truly good read on a battery after all that is complete and the battery has gone through several full charging cycles.
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Everything was already installed/synced/etc. I have had many phones over the months and no phone came close to sucking as bad as this did in the battery department right out of the gate. I can also give you sources if you'd like of reports on battery life where z1 came close to last on every one. In fact, I searched the interwebs for almost 2 hours and not a single battery report actually gave the Z1/z1s anywhere above average. They were all below average if not the worst around compared to modern phones
Definately sounds like something was wrong in your case here. My Z1 easily lasts two days of medium use, with an hour of screen time, a few snapshots with the camera, gmail and exchange sync on and a little RunKeeper.
You should have used a wake lock detector to see what was eating your power. My guess is that google plus or Dropbox was running haywire. Has happened to me a few times on new handsets.
-KJ
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Everything was already installed/synced/etc. I have had many phones over the months and no phone came close to sucking as bad as this did in the battery department right out of the gate. I can also give you sources if you'd like of reports on battery life where z1 came close to last on every one. In fact, I searched the interwebs for almost 2 hours and not a single battery report actually gave the Z1/z1s anywhere above average. They were all below average if not the worst around compared to modern phones
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that IS quite odd, because every single review I read on the Z1s gave high marks for the battery, saying it lasted at least a day of moderate use, though each person's mileage will vary depending on usage. I too picked up a z1s today, and while my battery hasnt been phenomenal yet, its been better than my HTC One was, and should only improve over the next few days and weeks. Did you tinker at all with Sony's built in power saving settings?
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I'm a tweaker, the kind of guy that will try a different rom every week until I find the perfect one for me. Even knowing it is locked, I love this phone. SOMEONE will crack it open... I hope.
I'll come back and update this after a day or two then after a week or two. So far though, (even with the crappy locked bootloader) I'd suggest this phone to everyone.
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I would advise to check this thread before you start heavy ROM flashing. Would be sad if your Z1 enjoyment finishes in couple days.
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that IS quite odd, because every single review I read on the Z1s gave high marks for the battery, saying it lasted at least a day of moderate use, though each person's mileage will vary depending on usage. I too picked up a z1s today, and while my battery hasnt been phenomenal yet, its been better than my HTC One was, and should only improve over the next few days and weeks. Did you tinker at all with Sony's built in power saving settings?
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I did, and while I appreciate it having Stamina mode, etc. Other phones do not offer that and still get better life. On the Note III and LG G2 (both have 3000-3200 batteries) I don't have to make it turn stuff off for the battery to last. I appreciate what Sony was going for but it just didn't work for me. Maybe with the Z2 they are supposed to be announcing soon they will have fixed things like the battery draw/viewing angles, etc.
I think the Z1 line could be a beast. But Sony needs to make some tweaks to make it better in the long run.
So, after two weeks of use, I am still loving the phone overall. I do however have some nitpicks that I would like to share here, just for edification.
(1) The automation software that Sony has written is buggy and I mean really buggy. My main issue is that the state changes don't return the phone back to the way it was before the automated state went into effect. For example, NIGHT silences everything, but if I was silent before and I take the phone off the charger in the middle of the night, it turns sounds back on.
(2) Bluetooth - My bluetooth module crashes EVERY time I am in the car and connected. If I'm on a call, it goes in and out at least once. I would say it is the car's bluetooth, but I've never had this happen with other phones.
(3) Wi-Fi - My wifi connection at work has been spotty, but now I sit directly under an access point. The Z2 contines to go in and out of service for no reason. It still may be the connection at work, as it doesn't happen on my home network. But, I find it quite strange.
(4) Docked - The wake-up screen doesn't switch to vertical when the phone is docked. The home screen does.
(5) Phone screen - Not sure who laid the screen out, but it is too easy to engage the phone pad screen, which in turn starts dialing numbers. The sensor doesn't seem to recognize my big face on it, so it doesn't turn off while in a call. DO NOT LIKE.
(6) Autodimming Feature - doesn't really work as advertised. If I'm in a dark room, I don't need the screen to be full on. And yet, it does.
(7) 4K camera recording shut off AND manual camera (20MP) gets an over heating after a few pictures.
now, the good part...
(1) Screen is great for everything, I don't know what people are complaining about. No it isn't flame on strong like a Galaxy S5, but it works and very well, for whatever I need.
(2) Battery life and performance are phenomenal
(3) Simple Android skin.
(4) Camera quality is fantastic. Even in a dark room I got great pictures.
Thanks for info. Looking at bright side, most of your problems should be solved with software update.
I love everything about this phone except one thing :
I have T-Mobile and before this I had Nexus 5 and mostly I had LTE almost ever where but with this phone that percentage is lowered now and rather than having 90% of LTE everywhere I have like 50% LTE everywhere and mostly H+, I don't know why or maybe that's how's this phone or maybe if they release a better radio or firmware if fix the problem, I hope for it.
Thanks for the info/initial impressions. As already mentioned, most of your problems seem to be due to software issues that could well be fixed in the future. However, the overheating issue concerns me a lot. What if it's a design fault and no ROM updates are going to fully solve it... Idk...
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Thanks for the info/initial impressions. As already mentioned, most of your problems seem to be due to software issues that could well be fixed in the future. However, the overheating issue concerns me a lot. What if it's a design fault and no ROM updates are going to fully solve it... Idk...
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I have had the phone for more than a week and I have to say I love it. I can confirm a few niggles here and there, but nothing deal breaking and I can see myself living with the phone for the next few years. I agree with many that the real killer issue here is overheating. While initially restricted to 4k recording, it seems that the issue is more widespread than this, and today it happened to me recording 1080p at 60fps as well as 4k recording. Only a few minutes in each time. No each time the phone did not feel particularly hot, so I suspect this is predominenty related to the threshold set for the software to go in safe mode so that could be fixed if that was inadequate calibration.
Saying that, I find it difficult to believe that an issue like this could not have been picked up during testing... Certainly makes it looked like they did fry up a few phones during development for them to be so overly (?) cautious on this...
I have the same problem with the spotty wifi. It can drop and go back to LTE all of a sudden with no apparent reason. And it has the tendency to lose mobile connection while I'm traveling on the train, I don't get this with my S3. Fortunately I'm sure Sony can fix these issues buy upgrading the radio and software updates. It's just a matter of whether they will take notice.
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You know I think Sony makes bad radio antenna. cause Xperia SP is also having issues of dropping signals right now with it's latest update.
Once I went out for skiing and I was using Xperia Z and my two friends had HTC Evo 3D and GS3, they both got h+ yet I only got edge which kinda sucked.
Well, Ive had the phone for a week today
I haven't had the same issues as the OP,
the automation software I do have issues with as in night mode it does not turn off notifications and the picture viewer starts, but the way I have got round this is to go to flight mode at night
No problems whatsoever with Bluetooth connections in my S-0max, Freelander or Jag XF, all working perfectly
no problems with wifi, but I did have to uncheck the "Avoid Poor Connections" in advanced wifi setting
no issues with phone pad random dialling or catching it
agree with camera quality, screen quality and noise cancelling headphones are great (but are awful in my ipad, terrible quality on that)
would agree the sound levels are too low, needs an update to increase volume choices
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Well, Ive had the phone for a week today
I haven't had the same issues as the OP,
the automation software I do have issues with as in night mode it does not turn off notifications and the picture viewer starts, but the way I have got round this is to go to flight mode at night
No problems whatsoever with Bluetooth connections in my S-0max, Freelander or Jag XF, all working perfectly
no problems with wifi, but I did have to uncheck the "Avoid Poor Connections" in advanced wifi setting
no issues with phone pad random dialling or catching it
agree with camera quality, screen quality and noise cancelling headphones are great (but are awful in my ipad, terrible quality on that)
would agree the sound levels are too low, needs an update to increase volume choices
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Glad I get to pick mine up today. I will say that when I had the z1 that it had low signal issues where it would cycle between LTE, HSPA and no signal in areas where other att phones stay locked on one or two bars of LTE. I'm hopeful this one will be a bit better, but we'll see.
Had my Z2 since Tuesday, It's going back!! Only for a replacement though as I love it.
Reason for going back, the gap is present on the top right on the phone.
other problems I have is the camera. Amazing results but I keep getting overheating message and shutdowns, and the keyboard is a nightmare, keep missing the space bar, but this is no big issue.
The good things, well just about everything else. The speakers are amazing, the screen is absolutely gorgeous, and it is not dim, I spend most of the day with it on auto with slider at the lowest setting. The mrs says it's ugly and looks old, I do not agree with this, it's gorgeous, and looks sleek and elegant.
Would I recommend, hell yeah!!
One further note, when you place it on the stand at night and go sleep, don't leave the bloody vibrate on, man, I sh*t myself and so did the Mrs, followed by me getting a bit of verbal!!!
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Had my Z2 since Tuesday, It's going back!! Only for a replacement though as I love it.
Reason for going back, the gap is present on the top right on the phone.
other problems I have is the camera. Amazing results but I keep getting overheating message and shutdowns, and the keyboard is a nightmare, keep missing the space bar, but this is no big issue.
The good things, well just about everything else. The speakers are amazing, the screen is absolutely gorgeous, and it is not dim, I spend most of the day with it on auto with slider at the lowest setting. The mrs says it's ugly and looks old, I do not agree with this, it's gorgeous, and looks sleek and elegant.
Would I recommend, hell yeah!!
One further note, when you place it on the stand at night and go sleep, don't leave the bloody vibrate on, man, I sh*t myself and so did the Mrs, followed by me getting a bit of verbal!!!
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Iam thinking of buying this phone asap
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Iam thinking of buying this phone asap
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i would too, but the overheating issues are a turn off. hoping the second batch of Z2s would not have such problems
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i would too, but the overheating issues are a turn off. hoping the second batch of Z2s would not have such problems
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But then z3 would be announced
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But then z3 would be announced
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lol..perhaps a s5 would be the better choice then...but i am really tired of the design language being used by them come on, sony! lets hope the overheating can be solved through a software update
I've had mine since the 17th of April and I haven't experienced most of the problems the OP listed. I've had the 4k over heating force closing camera app but that was only on the first day because I was already using the camera for ages before testing 4k. Since then it's never happened again. Never happened with 1080p video at any point even 60fps.
No problems with lte or wifi. Don't use bluetooth much so can't comment there. Automodes work OK for me. Well it's just the night mode I used so no extensive testing done there.
Z2 rocks, put it this way, I've spent a lot of time criticising most of the Sony Ericsson and Sony devices I've owned but the z2 ain't gonna join that list.
The display is class leading, whites may not be the whitest but they're white enough. The colour reproduction is spot on despite the vibrancy unlike you know who. Performance is boss too. Only notice frame drops in games when the phone gets very hot after prolonged periods.
Sound quality is great too and I for one don't have any problems with notifications. I hear them from the living room when I'm outside. I also like the fact that it automatically adjusts the sound volume depending on what you're doing. It's loudest during gaming. I think that's good because I can just leave the phone on full volume and it automatically takes care of everything. No need to keep adjusting the volume. Another thing I discovered is that you can zoom in on any video you record with the device, not just 4k. Obviously not as much detail is preserved but it's great nonetheless.
The camera for me is the real star of the show. Not really a superior auto man because historically that produced the worst results possible especially with the Z. Not this time though. Manual for me is still king but superior auto has been greatly improved and you can be happy using it. It actually does a better job at white balance under artificial lighting. Something I hope is addressed in manual mode with software updates.
As for photo quality, it's fantastic at 8mp. Sure you can't zoom in as much as with 20.7mp but the quality is much better in ever respect. Detail preservation, colour reproduction, dynamic range etc. Fantastic job done here by Sony. They've certainly joined Nokia in the premier league of smartphone cams. If the lumia 1020 is an incredible 5mp camera, think of the z2 as an incredible 8mp camera.
Took me a while to get used to the size of the phone though but I'm over that now. Z starting to look an feel small now lol!
All in all, it's not only by far and away the best effort from Sony, it's the best smartphone ever built. It's monolithic rectangular design might not be everyone's cup of tea especial those who like to grip their phones but I love it and hope Sony never changes it. To give you some perspective, I absolutely hated the xperia arc design. That's just me I know. The m8 might feel more premium but I think it's butt ugly with those juvenile speaker grills. I actually prefer the s5's look if not feel.
There's more to talk about especially the noise cancelling genius. Works like a charm and does exactly what it claims to do.
It's also pretty solid and rugged. I've dropped mine a few times and it's shown no damage at all. I'm glad Sony went back to the original z design and put a plastic edge around the aluminum frame. My mates z1 is already showing signs of age but the z still looks fab. I think z2 will stand the test of time much like the z did.
For the bad, the phone is way too slippery hence why I've dropped it a lot. It even slides off surfaces on its own lol.
The camera also tries to force the bokeh effect on you. If you have anything that remotely looks dominant and central to the scene, the camera tends to blur out a bit objects in the background. IPhone 5s does this too but is sort of annoying especially when the z2 has a dedicated shooting mode for this. Admittedly one that's not the most accurate. Well even m8 with its secondary depth sensor is inaccurate so let's not take the high ground here.
To avoid rambling on, this is one phone I'll gladly recommend to anyone who isn't worried about size. For those of you that are, just wait for the z2 compact.
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I've had mine since the 17th of April and I haven't experienced most of the problems the OP listed. I've had the 4k over heating force closing camera app but that was only on the first day because I was already using the camera for ages before testing 4k. Since then it's never happened again. Never happened with 1080p video at any point even 60fps.
No problems with lte or wifi. Don't use bluetooth much so can't comment there. Automodes work OK for me. Well it's just the night mode I used so no extensive testing done there.
Z2 rocks, put it this way, I've spent a lot of time criticising most of the Sony Ericsson and Sony devices I've owned but the z2 ain't gonna join that list.
The display is class leading, whites may not be the whitest but they're white enough. The colour reproduction is spot on despite the vibrancy unlike you know who. Performance is boss too. Only notice frame drops in games when the phone gets very hot after prolonged periods.
Sound quality is great too and I for one don't have any problems with notifications. I hear them from the living room when I'm outside. I also like the fact that it automatically adjusts the sound volume depending on what you're doing. It's loudest during gaming. I think that's good because I can just leave the phone on full volume and it automatically takes care of everything. No need to keep adjusting the volume. Another thing I discovered is that you can zoom in on any video you record with the device, not just 4k. Obviously not as much detail is preserved but it's great nonetheless.
The camera for me is the real star of the show. Not really a superior auto man because historically that produced the worst results possible especially with the Z. Not this time though. Manual for me is still king but superior auto has been greatly improved and you can be happy using it. It actually does a better job at white balance under artificial lighting. Something I hope is addressed in manual mode with software updates.
As for photo quality, it's fantastic at 8mp. Sure you can't zoom in as much as with 20.7mp but the quality is much better in ever respect. Detail preservation, colour reproduction, dynamic range etc. Fantastic job done here by Sony. They've certainly joined Nokia in the premier league of smartphone cams. If the lumia 1020 is an incredible 5mp camera, think of the z2 as an incredible 8mp camera.
Took me a while to get used to the size of the phone though but I'm over that now. Z starting to look an feel small now lol!
All in all, it's not only by far and away the best effort from Sony, it's the best smartphone ever built. It's monolithic rectangular design might not be everyone's cup of tea especial those who like to grip their phones but I love it and hope Sony never changes it. To give you some perspective, I absolutely hated the xperia arc design. That's just me I know. The m8 might feel more premium but I think it's butt ugly with those juvenile speaker grills. I actually prefer the s5's look if not feel.
There's more to talk about especially the noise cancelling genius. Works like a charm and does exactly what it claims to do.
It's also pretty solid and rugged. I've dropped mine a few times and it's shown no damage at all. I'm glad Sony went back to the original z design and put a plastic edge around the aluminum frame. My mates z1 is already showing signs of age but the z still looks fab. I think z2 will stand the test of time much like the z did.
For the bad, the phone is way too slippery hence why I've dropped it a lot. It even slides off surfaces on its own lol.
The camera also tries to force the bokeh effect on you. If you have anything that remotely looks dominant and central to the scene, the camera tends to blur out a bit objects in the background. IPhone 5s does this too but is sort of annoying especially when the z2 has a dedicated shooting mode for this. Admittedly one that's not the most accurate. Well even m8 with its secondary depth sensor is inaccurate so let's not take the high ground here.
To avoid rambling on, this is one phone I'll gladly recommend to anyone who isn't worried about size. For those of you that are, just wait for the z2 compact.
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thanks for your input! but btw, when you mean you haven't faced the overheating for 4k, was it at least 5 minutes? i fully intend to use the z2 for an upcoming concert, so at least 5 mins of 4k would be awesome(for cropping/zooming in) :good:
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thanks for your input! but btw, when you mean you haven't faced the overheating for 4k, was it at least 5 minutes? i fully intend to use the z2 for an upcoming concert, so at least 5 mins of 4k would be awesome(for cropping/zooming in) :good:
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Before replying, I started another 4k video to see what happened. It recorded for 5mins 22 seconds and then forced closed. Mind you I've been using the phone all morning so was already a bit hot. I think it all depends on the temperature of the phone. If cool, you can probably record for longer. You can though zoom into any video you record. I would suggest using 1080 at 60fps at the concert or just make sure your device is cool before recording in 4k.
I think it's a threshold Sony set for it. If that's correct then removing or increasing this threshold may result in people pushing it too far and damaging their devices.
If it's not a threshold then who knows, there maybe a fix released at some point. Don't forget, the z2 really hasn't got going yet. Sony is still struggling to make it widely available so we may have to wait a few months for any fixes.
I'll wait for the device to cool down completely and retry. I'll come back to you then.
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Before replying, I started another 4k video to see what happened. It recorded for 5mins 22 seconds and then forced closed. Mind you I've been using the phone all morning so was already a bit hot. I think it all depends on the temperature of the phone. If cool, you can probably record for longer. You can though zoom into any video you record. I would suggest using 1080 at 60fps at the concert or just make sure your device is cool before recording in 4k.
I think it's a threshold Sony set for it. If that's correct then removing or increasing this threshold may result in people pushing it too far and damaging their devices.
If it's not a threshold then who knows, there maybe a fix released at some point. Don't forget, the z2 really hasn't got going yet. Sony is still struggling to make it widely available so we may have to wait a few months for any fixes.
I'll wait for the device to cool down completely and retry. I'll come back to you then.
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thanks loads! haha if it would really take months, the Z3 would be out already(as said by another member above) i still think their 6 months refresh rate is a tad too fast but oh well
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thanks loads! haha if it would really take months, the Z3 would be out already(as said by another member above) i still think their 6 months refresh rate is a tad too fast but oh well
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I think the 6 month cycle is disgusting. Nobody benefits from this. Not consumers and not Sony. With all the delays I doubt we'll see z3 until next year. I think z2 compact and possibly z2 ultra are more likely later this year. Sony would just have absolutely no justification for pushing the z3 in September. Even if they do, it'll just be another rough sketch phone like the z1 was. One which I'll surely be skipping and would advise others to do so as well. 6 months is way too short a time to develop a phone. You'll end up with another unrefined rough sketch. Let's be honest, the z1 looks now like an early prototype of the z2. If it was a proper construct, they would have called it the z2. The z1 was the original z. The z1 was a child of pure greed on Sony's part. I'm sure most z1 users will be wishing they'd skipped that device. Doing think there were that many z users who wished they'd waited for the z1 though. We've seen what Sony has to offer for 2014 and you'll realistically have to wait at least a year to any meaningful improvements. Case in point, z2 and z1 have similar camera specs but z2 produces infinitely better results. Why? The z1's camera was just the hardware without the refinements needed. Like I said, it was a rough sketch of what Sony had to come. In my opinion h2 flagships from Sony are nothing but dishonest devices. Sony's basically selling early prototypes to consumers.
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Are you guys on the 2.55 or 2.69 firmware? Maybe the 2.69 has some changes to help with the overheating.
Out of all the smart phones I have owned since 2009, my experience with the Z2 has probably been the worst. On paper, the phone looks good. Nice big screen, good battery life, nice camera and water and dust proof to boot. In my mind, it beat all of the competitors at the time. The big problem I have found is the terrible software.
Sony seems to be clueless. Each new build introduced new bugs and didn't squash the old ones. Since Lollipop I have had issues with the screen not locking properly. The phone was constantly unlocking itself in my pocket and pocket dialling my contacts. I had to disable tap to unlock and this stopped that but still the phone wont always lock properly. I will have read a text say, close the application and lock the phone. The screen goes dark but a press of the button and it's unlocked again. No swipe of the screen. When you lock it, it should be locked. Typing out texts, sometimes it will freeze for a moment, then catch up with what I typed. I'm not fast at typing or anything. In fact I'm pretty rubbish lol.
The camera isn't great by any means. My old S3 was just as good and took better low light images. I don't think I will ever get a Sony again. It's a shame as my k700i was a great old phone.
Is it just me or does anyone else have issues with the Z2's dodgy software?
I am satisfied except camera performance.
@5nakedoc , i think it's just you...
I never had the phone unlock by itself, never had a pocket call and never disabled tap to unlock either...
Go to settings --> security --> automatically lock --> choose immediately and it should solve the problem of phone not locking right away when you press power button.
Lags? if you have lags the problem is on your side for sure, i have 55gb of stuff on my phone and i run my cpu at 1.5ghz max most of the time, no lags here.
I never used sony keyboard maybe it has bugs, i use swype in all my android phones, zero lag typing on my z2.
About camera...yeah auto mode sucks, manual mode is better, but camera fv-5 is what does the trick for me. Just try other camera apps...
I would hate to know what you think about the rest of the phone as you said the camera is one of your favourite features :/
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Build quality
Waterproofing
Noise Cancelling
Large friendly screen
Free Speaker!!!
Magnetic charging dock
Quality Sony case
Two stage camera button
Camera
AR app
Background Blur app
The banana dispenser
OK I lied about the last one.
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I don't think an awful lot of it. The software bugs are annoying. That post was just after I got it and before the worst of the bugs began to plague me. Plus the expensive case I bought from Sony direct, failed on two corners and is completely useless now. (Not dropped ever) I think I mentioned that the problems really only started when they updated to Lollipop.
I was unable to locate the setting mentioned above, perhaps you are not running the most recent software but it wasn't where you described or anywhere else that I looked within settings.
Lags may be down to the sheer number of texts I have from that contact. I suspect they number in the thousands. I might try a factory reset when I have an evening spare and see if this helps. I do feel a little sentimental about those texts though but they are backed up to google.
Nope i have not seen any single problm except battery
to me the performance is still a issues even in lollipop update , dont know whether it was android fault or not , i need to restart each 2 days since i can see framedrop which is pretty annoying . Kinda agree , the update also lower the loudness of the speaker , camerawise their superior auto is pretty bad hmm. and my screen sometimes become crazy i dont know before this i dont have this problem i have own z2 since june 2014 , and the problems appear like 2-3 months ago until now.
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The phone was constantly unlocking itself in my pocket and pocket dialling my contacts. I had to disable tap to unlock and this stopped that but still the phone wont always lock properly.
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How about you turn the phone screen away from your body when you place it in your pocket?
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to me the performance is still a issues even in lollipop update , dont know whether it was android fault or not , i need to restart each 2 days since i can see framedrop which is pretty annoying . Kinda agree , the update also lower the loudness of the speaker , camerawise their superior auto is pretty bad hmm. and my screen sometimes become crazy i dont know before this i dont have this problem i have own z2 since june 2014 , and the problems appear like 2-3 months ago until now.
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Hi Najmi,I'm currently running version 5.1.1,i dont have encountered any issues with this version,I'd like to ask at what android version did you start to have these problems?Thank you
Maybe you should try asking for solutions to each of your problems. I don't like Lollipop either. Its been crap on all but nexus phones. Have you the S5? It became a bugs galore with Lollipop. Every non-nexus smartphone had the awake problem and extended power consumption.
I would advise you to go back to KK. Its bug-free.
About the camera, I tried indoor image comparison between both phones in auto-mode (I just got both phones and didnt get the time to properly compare the cameras) and the Z2 was clearly better indoors without lighting. Macros and close shots were also better on Z2. Later on I learnt about the Night Scene Mode in Manual mode. No phone could match Z2 at the time. There was a lot of noise but the pictures had more details than what was visible through the naked eyes. Nowadays phones with manual mode can shoot the same type of photos. But comparing the phones that came with Z2 it was the best.
Oh and I used to get 8 hours SoT in KK in 2 days without any root or such thing.
5nakedoc, I regret being in complete disagreement with you. For me, the Z2 has been one of my most appreciated phones. I bought it with Android 4.1.2 and have been updated since then until 4.4.4. I have not kept updating it more because I have a very useful app to my health insurance does not work with Lollipop.
Certainly, I recognize that the lock-release of Lollipop do not like as much as Kit Kat, but with a Xposed framework and modules in kit kat, I have a super performance, without any problem to lock-unlock, even removing the button emergency call and also the one of the camera.
The Stamina mode gives me an excellent performance during the day, coming to the end of the day with an average of 50-70% of battery, using whatsapp usually.
Also the wifi mode based on location works well, etc.
The camera fully satisfy me, and with an optical zoom could be the summum
What else can I want from a phone?
Perhaps you must keep in Kit kat and forget Lollipop experiences. I think there's most stable with old android versions.
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The camera isn't great by any means. My old S3 was just as good and took better low light images.
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You dont know to use camera for sure.Look at my pictures from Z2 on my flickr account and you will see how camera is really good.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
The Sony Xperia™ Z2 is one awesome device. If it has cons, it would be the speakers, I guess. But that's all. I've been using it since June 2014 and NEVER got those same problems with you.
Get your phone checked instead of coming here and blabbing about how bad it is.
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Hi Najmi,I'm currently running version 5.1.1,i dont have encountered any issues with this version,I'd like to ask at what android version did you start to have these problems?Thank you
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Since Lollipop of course. Latest one also. Fresh install including formatting both internal and external storage. You should compared kitkat and lollipop. That's why I revert back to Kitkat which give me better battery life and louder speaker.
Totally disagree
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Out of all the smart phones I have owned since 2009, my experience with the Z2 has probably been the worst. On paper, the phone looks good. Nice big screen, good battery life, nice camera and water and dust proof to boot. In my mind, it beat all of the competitors at the time. The big problem I have found is the terrible software.
Sony seems to be clueless. Each new build introduced new bugs and didn't squash the old ones. Since Lollipop I have had issues with the screen not locking properly. The phone was constantly unlocking itself in my pocket and pocket dialling my contacts. I had to disable tap to unlock and this stopped that but still the phone wont always lock properly. I will have read a text say, close the application and lock the phone. The screen goes dark but a press of the button and it's unlocked again. No swipe of the screen. When you lock it, it should be locked. Typing out texts, sometimes it will freeze for a moment, then catch up with what I typed. I'm not fast at typing or anything. In fact I'm pretty rubbish lol.
The camera isn't great by any means. My old S3 was just as good and took better low light images. I don't think I will ever get a Sony again. It's a shame as my k700i was a great old phone.
Is it just me or does anyone else have issues with the Z2's dodgy software?
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The ONLY thing you have proven with your attitude is that old saying ...
"You can't please ALL the people ALL the time."
Aside from being a techie with over 35 years of computer and phone skills, I've been through dozens of smartphones from the original iPhone to my current Sony Z2. I've RARELY kept any of them for more than 6 months. I've jailbroken or rooted every single one of them (except a Sharp which nobody has been able to root).
IMHO, the Sony Z2 is THE BEST smartphone I've ever carried. I'm NOT saying it's perfect. None of them are perfect. However, having carried and compared Apple, HTC, Samsung, LG, Motorola and Sharp smartphones, I believe that the Sony Z2 has the BEST screen image quality, color accuracy and camera (excluding the Z5). The photos I've captured with my Z2 are so good, I no longer haul around my expensive Hasselblad equipment when I travel. I've blown up my Sony pics and turned them into life-size pieces of artwork. No other smartphone lets you turn it sideways and keep it charged in a magnetic $4 cradle. Very few smartphones since the original Nexus have the ability to program the notification light with different colors. It even feels like a quality device, not a plastic toy.
Sony has been one of the very few manufacturers that embraces developers like the ones on XDA,
instead of trying to stop us from rooting and customizing our phones.
I'm sorry that you don't have the abilities or desire to resolve your Z2 software dislikes.
I'm currently running Mx ROM V7.70 which has Android 5.1.1 plus lots of Z5 apps
and am not having ANY problems with it. Only complaint are 2 apps he adds which I uninstalled.
I'm so happy with my Z2, I'm even passing up the new Z5 (for now anyway) and may keep my Z2 for a second year.
Glenn
P.S. I also have a Sony Smartwatch 3 and am loving how Google keeps improving Android Wear.
Nexus 7 / Sony Z2 / Teclast X98 Air 3G / iPhone 2S
Yea the z2 is by far my favourite smart phone ever. It may have some minor issues here and there, but all in all, it really is a solid device. I've had it for a year and a half now, and I still don't see any devices that I could justify upgrading to (with the exception of the z3, z4, z5). Every other manufacturer would have some sort of drawback in some way. My z2 does everything I need plus more.
Bull Sh*t. Z2 is one of the best phones. If you compare it with Z3 I think design wise Z3 maybe good but other than that I think Z2 is an amazing device.
Display, Battery Life, Software, everything is perfect. Yes Lollipop actually made the phone to die fast. It's all because of the "Mobile Radio Active bug"
If you talk about Camera it all comes to personal experience. I agree it doesn't do well on Superior Auto mode but it does a great job if you tweak the manual mode and you need to know the stuff you're dealing with.
Then again I think Sony kinda ruined HDR mode but I am okay with it.
I can't use single phone for a good year, I upgrade fast, dude this phone I am using for 2 freaking years now. I am more than happy and I'm actually not pleased with any of the phones which was released this year(maybe because of SD810). @Authi it was released with 4.4.2 not 4.1.2
This phone is awesome are you kidding. My only issue is people are always asking what kind of fancy phone that is. Noone in the US even has any idea that Sony even makes phones even though they like the look of it. This is exactly why Sony is losing money because of no marketing presence.
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This phone is awesome are you kidding. My only issue is people are always asking what kind of fancy phone that is. Noone in the US even has any idea that Sony even makes phones even though they like the look of it. This is exactly why Sony is losing money because of no marketing presence.
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Exactly. Anyone with an interest in phones that has seen my z2, loves it. Even people I know who don't have an interest, when they see all the pros of it, they still comment asking what kind of phone it is. I've said it from day one. Sony makes an incredible device, it's just that nobody knows about them (in North America at least).
5nakedoc said:
Out of all the smart phones I have owned since 2009, my experience with the Z2 has probably been the worst. On paper, the phone looks good. Nice big screen, good battery life, nice camera and water and dust proof to boot. In my mind, it beat all of the competitors at the time. The big problem I have found is the terrible software.
Sony seems to be clueless. Each new build introduced new bugs and didn't squash the old ones. Since Lollipop I have had issues with the screen not locking properly. The phone was constantly unlocking itself in my pocket and pocket dialling my contacts. I had to disable tap to unlock and this stopped that but still the phone wont always lock properly. I will have read a text say, close the application and lock the phone. The screen goes dark but a press of the button and it's unlocked again. No swipe of the screen. When you lock it, it should be locked. Typing out texts, sometimes it will freeze for a moment, then catch up with what I typed. I'm not fast at typing or anything. In fact I'm pretty rubbish lol.
The camera isn't great by any means. My old S3 was just as good and took better low light images. I don't think I will ever get a Sony again. It's a shame as my k700i was a great old phone.
Is it just me or does anyone else have issues with the Z2's dodgy software?
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I have owned a Galaxy S3 before my XPERIA Z2 (and before the Galaxy S3 I owned the x10i). The Samsung phone (not a fanboy of Sony here) was my worst phone EVER. It was faster than my XPERIA x10i, yeah, but I can't relate to anything you say. My XPERIA has NEVER unlocked out of nothing, even with tap to unlock (I know this feature can cause automatic unlocks in your pockets for example). My camera is much and much better than the Galaxy S3. Battery life is also much better. My S3 couldn't hold out a full day, my XPERIA can reach up to 2 days. Freezing? Well it never freezed here only by a faulty third party app.
And you're saying the phone is full of new bugs each update? Which bugs? I haven't seen any major bugs, only on that crappy slow Galaxy, which was freezing all the time because of the heavy Touchwiz software that was running. Okay, I'm exaggerating with all the time, but you know how frustrating it is since your XPERIA has been freezing too. But I haven't experienced one of the problems you describe, my girlfriend owns the XPERIA Z2 too, and she hasn't experienced it too.
I think the source of the problems is you and not the phone and the software that is pre-installed on the phone. Don't take this as a personal attack, because it isn't one.
Cheers.
I'm posting this as i think Sony doesn't know what they are doing anymore, they are not in control of their mobile dev department, its a real mess.
After years of experiencing android market, Sony reinventing the wheel every time they come up with something new, the latest example is the Z5 series
they released a device with half a day battery life under fair usage, they are marketing it as a 2 days battery ready
they forgot to add the correct drivers for the bluetooth and wifi, that's why the bower consumption is really high when both left on without connecting to BT headset or Wi-Fi
the camera is far from the expectations, lagy, hardly focus, image optimization is at the worst, extremely noisy, file size is at the highest, please do a fair comparison between this camera and any other mid-range device, even Huawei doing much better than Sony camera, the weird thing is they are selling their camera module to most of the high-end manufacturers, but others knows how to perfectly use this module.
even their own apps like "Smart Connect" it doesn't trigger the required action upon device pairing to a bluetooth for example
Stamina Clock disconnects the mobile data believe me it does
"Adaptive Brightness" is not correctly functioning, it extremely exposure the screen brightness for seconds before it detects the correct settings
sound drivers are sh*^%&t, stereo speakers are not well calibrated, and after every Facebook call or disconnecting noise cancelling headset, I have to readjust ringer and call volumes again
Sony fans stay away please, no need for (my device lasts for full 5 years with only 10% battery) as this is a lie, I factory rest and repaired my device 6 times with all possible settings before I post this, this post is not for you guys, I was a Sony fan, starting from Xperia Z, Z1, Z2, Z3, and finally this sh%^ty Z5P, and unfortunately am an advanced user and i know Sony mobiles behavior
Good luck everyone, stay away from Sony mobiles this year if you care about your money, you won't be satisfied unless you are a beginner, or you have the patience to wait for months for an update to fix a bug and bug another, till finally after ages they fix their firmware.
Be Happy Story Teller
hahah you sure bro ? you got all that problem in your phone ? is that even legit Sony product or maybe you buy the cloned one hahahha . I think the problem is you or let's say your phone only because every error that you mentioned is all just story .
1. My phone takes almost 2 day before it drain : game , facebook , music . Also i think you need to learn to read , Sony announced it 2days in Standby mode , really are you fan of Sony . Nice story .
2.Do you know the correct drivers your talking about ? My wifi is on always i dont get that problem.
3. LMAO the CAMERA this one , really ? Sony Camera is SUPERB ! Even my friends who used Samsung , Iphones they know Z5 Camera is better . This the best hahaha .
4.Smart Connect ? Even this one you got problem hahahahah !
5.I used Stamina Clock and I can still use mobile data with LTE .
6.The adaptive brightness is very good also . You know i dont know whats your problem retarded hahaha .
7.Lastly the Music , ow common . Sony's Stereo is great .
Dont listen to this guy claiming he is a Sony Fan hahahah . Its easy to say that your a Sony Fan . Actually your a great Story Teller on the other side . Laughing very hard to this post haha . Almost all the details in the phone you got the problem seriously ? Your too obvious . I pity you , all story that you mentioned i didnt even got one . I hope i have atleast one ! hahahah
True Sony Z5 Series Xperia User can tell it . I know others will get some problems just like all other phones but not all the problems that you mentioned . Cool Story Bro ! Cheers
Im very proud with this phone.
Z5 Premium Dual User
Lucky you, none even one problem with your Xperia Z5P, that's cool while Sony knows these issues and promising for an upcoming update to fix these issues, you -the only one on planet- who has none of the above at all, and I'm the story teller??
please check the following:
a professional reply from Sony here, not a childish one as yours (the guy with no issues) https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...isappointed/m-p/1071489/highlight/false#M5004 check Sony reply and awareness of these issues
Adaptive Brightness Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/screen-looking-washed-t3265869
Stareo Speakers Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/sound-problem-z5-premium-t3264852
these are just examples, i can post tons of links
Hossam.Abdelsalam said:
Lucky you, none even one problem with your Xperia Z5P, that's cool while Sony knows these issues and promising for an upcoming update to fix these issues, you -the only one on planet- who has none of the above at all, and I'm the story teller??
please check the following:
a professional reply from Sony here, not a childish one as yours (the guy with no issues) https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...isappointed/m-p/1071489/highlight/false#M5004 check Sony reply and awareness of these issues
Adaptive Brightness Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/help/screen-looking-washed-t3265869
Stareo Speakers Issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-premium/general/sound-problem-z5-premium-t3264852
these are just examples, i can post tons of links
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You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
Which version of the premium do you have? Is it dual? Is it E6883? I wonder if bugs are only in certain versions of the phone. Especially the battery issue. I got the dual E6883 and I feel like the battery is not lasting how it should.
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I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
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Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything. the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it.
gd luck
P.S. If you'r not in a hurry, my advice is - wait till spring. The Z6 line will be a lot better. Rumors are there will be 5 screen sizes to pick from and lot of goodies. And in case they suck, you can grab the Z5P cheaper. The only reason I got mine was a random Black Friday promo for 50% off
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Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it
gd luck
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Probably when the marshmallow update drops soon it will be alot better huh? Yeah the camera button would be nice !! i wanted a rear camera closest to a dslr so the z5p is probably that. I heard the z5p has a better stabilizer..Do you think a new model z5p will drop soon? i guess thats my main concern, i dont want the phone to depreciate after Christmas and i know iphones dont hardly do that haha. Hows your battery life ??
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bahkata said:
Both have a good front facing camera. The Sony one captures a little more (wider lens) but the quality is not different enough to drive a decision. Right now, before a Firmware update, you'll be happier with the 6s Plus.
After Sony releases a couple of updates, I think the Sony will be the better phone.
The rear camera is better on the Sony but that is subjective to my picture preferences. On the objective side, Sony's lenses are much wider and capture more of the scene and it has a camera button, which I wouldn't swap for anything. the 6s Plus does have OIS tho. Videos tend to be a little less shaky.
pick the one u like in your hand. I am not a fan of apple's product line but that's on a personal level so I can't recommend against it.
gd luck
P.S. If you'r not in a hurry, my advice is - wait till spring. The Z6 line will be a lot better. Rumors are there will be 5 screen sizes to pick from and lot of goodies. And in case they suck, you can grab the Z5P cheaper. The only reason I got mine was a random Black Friday promo for 50% off
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edit: Do they still have that black friday promo? lol and i should probably get a iphone 6s plus then since i can easily resell it for alot (seem to hold value). i found a 6s plus 128gb for $700 new
Nah, was just a 12 hour promo on a Swedish provider
If u want to hold value, iPhone would be a better option. U'll be happy with both.
Battery is fine. I miss my Z2's marathon stamina but I easily get two days and it will get better with andro M.
In the end, its a lifestyle choice, dude. They cover different needs and have a different customer base. If u want pretty, shiny and easy to use - go 6s Plus. If u want to tinker, customize and a more real experience in a tougher shell - its Sony. Go play with both of them in a store.
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Nah, was just a 12 hour promo on a Swedish provider
If u want to hold value, iPhone would be a better option. U'll be happy with both.
Battery is fine. I miss my Z2's marathon stamina but I easily get two days and it will get better with andro M.
In the end, its a lifestyle choice, dude. They cover different needs and have a different customer base. If u want pretty, shiny and easy to use - go 6s Plus. If u want to tinker, customize and a more real experience in a tougher shell - its Sony. Go play with both of them in a store.
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2 days seems amazing, on my s6 edge plus i sold i got around 10hrs only with probably 2-3sot. Guess i gotta think this through lol... do you have any camera samples? or any samples on instagram or something ?
Thats quite disappointing. People here don't like it when they get "only" 4-5 hrs SOT on the Z5P
check here -> http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z5_premium-review-1344.php
loads of samples and a decent review
bahkata said:
You sound like a fairly smart and technical dude so I'll give u the benefit of the doubt and try to stay constructive.
There are a number of quirks with the Z5P that we all wished were not there, just like there are many quirks with every single phone in it's first months of release
There will be fixes for the MINOR bugs you are mentioning and there is no reason to blow it out of proportion like a teenager on her first period. I mean if Smart Connect, adaptive brightness(no issue here), Stamina clock and readjusting volume after FB call is you idea of "STAY AWAY FROM SONY" issues, I think you have some serious unresolved ones. Not trying to offend you, just a friendly observation.
As far as camera, battery and wireless drivers(?!), you either got a faulty device, or you are smoking some fine dope and I want in on it
Camera pics (low light especially) made a pal of mine switch to Z5 from an iPhone. I was at a party on Saturday and people were borrowing my phone to take pics and send to themselves afterwards. As objective as it comes. .
I haven't switched off BT or WiFi ever since I became a Sony user(Z, Z1, Z2). Z5P does noticeably worse than my Z2, which was a power stamina beast, but it still holds up to the two day promise Sony makes (~4 hours of screen time, stamina mode - On, wifi/BT - On, adaptive brightness set to medium). I easily start a morning with 100% and last to next day evening. I am not a power user and rarely play games on it, so if you do, I can see your frustration. The Snapdragon 810 is infamous with its power starve.
As for the "tons" of links with bad feedback, it is true for every single piece of hardware. Simple human behavior is that they rarely write on a forum about a positive experience.
My advice is, write down all the issues you are having, send back your phone for a warranty service (even invent a few if it helps your case) and see if they can swap it.
Otherwise you can keep whining and badmouthing, it's your choice, but it's also no way to live a life Put a nice smile on and make it better
Cheers
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Thanks man for your reply, but when you pay around $850 to get a Z5P in my country -with no warranty BTW-, and after days of waiting for it to be delivered to find out you've paid this for a downgraded version of your current device (Z3) which lasts easily for a day with heavy use, most of issues were fixed (except for the call and ring volumes and Smart connect actions), battery smooth UI, no lags, fair camera, ...etc, imagine the impression man, paying such amount of money to be downgraded to half a day battery usage, software issues here and there, practically same camera results.
add to this, being in a poor country, no Sony support, all the above issues are hidden to the normal user, advanced digging needed to reach out for solutions, this is not like a teenager on her first period, this is called disappointment
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Thanks man for your reply, but when you pay around $850 to get a Z5P in my country -with no warranty BTW-, and after days of waiting for it to be delivered to find out you've paid this for a downgraded version of your current device (Z3) which lasts easily for a day with heavy use, most of issues were fixed (except for the call and ring volumes and Smart connect actions), battery smooth UI, no lags, fair camera, ...etc, imagine the impression man, paying such amount of money to be downgraded to half a day battery usage, software issues here and there, practically same camera results.
add to this, being in a poor country, no Sony support, all the above issues are hidden to the normal user, advanced digging needed to reach out for solutions, this is not like a teenager on her first period, this is called disappointment
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Im originally from Bulgaria, mate. I don't have to imagine. But being from the third world you must also be aware that the lowest quality batches get send there and you need to be extra careful. As far as warranty goes, there is no such thing as "no warranty" with a big name brand. You can always send it to a Sony service center outside your country. You just have to communicate that through the correct channels. I managed to do it with a Nokia and a Samsung in my teens. You are a big boy, you'll figure it out
Now the disappointment part. It's not the feeling I am referring to. It's the process you are going through to handle it. This is a forum where people come together to be helpful/get help. Thanks to topics and posts like yours it is becoming a mundane and unhelpful place where people come to vent and whine without really seeking a solution, which makes it a less helpful place. Essentially you are making the world a ****tier place. By a very little amount of course, but it contributes
What was wrong with posting in the Q&A, troubleshooting section, explaining your problems and ask nicely if people have the same and what could be a solution?
Also don't be mad at Yolo. He has the right to be frustrated, just cannot express it very well.
I have the 6853 and honestly it works great... The camera is definitely better than the iPhone 6S+...my wife uses that and I took a ton of pictures using both...the Sony is considerably better...no phone is perfect but right now I don't think there's anything better than the Z5P...Android M will be out soon and it will only get better...the one thing that Sony is wrong on is Battery....as a heavy user, I get one full day usage, not 2...but its usually hovering around 15-20% when I finally put it back on the charger...another thing I noticed was that Sony's quick charger is slower than others...I have a $9 certified Qualcomm quick charger I got from Amazon that charges the phone from 2-3% to 100% in one hour...and I get it up to like 70% in 30-35 minutes.
Only battery drain a little bit too fast other then is perfect for me.
Before z5p I had use moto x prue ,nexus 6p, lumia 950xl but I feel z5p is better one
i've used the z, z1, z ultra (still have this beast), z3, z3 tablet compact, and recently got the z5 premium.
I've never gotten a lemon in any of those devices, and none of those problems happened to me before.
the z5 premium's performance is blowing all those out of the waters now so I guess I'm just one lucky son of a gun
ivrsn_des said:
i've used the z, z1, z ultra (still have this beast), z3, z3 tablet compact, and recently got the z5 premium.
I've never gotten a lemon in any of those devices, and none of those problems happened to me before.
the z5 premium's performance is blowing all those out of the waters now so I guess I'm just one lucky son of a gun
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I am still using my Z1 and it has never had a single issue in over two years but I am contemplating getting the Z5 Premium in black.
How would you rate it next to the Z1, take into consideration that o have not used or owned any other Z series device.
Would it be a massive jump and difference in user experience, in a positive manner?
jordy787 said:
I'm on the fence on choosing a z5premium or a iPhone 6s plus. ..which one do you think I should get? How's the front camera on the z5premium I'm into social media and use snap chat alot so I want a good selfie camera. .as well as a good rear camera and how long do you guys think the next premium model drops ?
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I'll be brutally honest here. Go with the iPhone. It's the best phone for social media. I've been using the Z5premium for a little longer than a week now and I can tell you that the front facing camera is definitely not as good as the one on the iPhone. It also doesn't take pictures as fast as the iPhone does. However I will say that the Z5's rear camera does take better photos than the iPhone, albeit slower due to post-processing.
There's also a weird glitch with the camera when taking videos of extremely detailed subjects on Snapchat. I don't know when this will be fixed, but I do know that it looks distorted and really weird. I wish I could show you a sample, but the snap was a few days ago.
This is not to say that I don't love this phone though. For more reasons I like this phone better than my iPhone. There are just a few things that the iPhone simply does better. But hey, no phone is perfect.
fancymans said:
I'll be brutally honest here. Go with the iPhone. It's the best phone for social media. I've been using the Z5premium for a little longer than a week now and I can tell you that the front facing camera is definitely not as good as the one on the iPhone. It also doesn't take pictures as fast as the iPhone does. However I will say that the Z5's rear camera does take better photos than the iPhone, albeit slower due to post-processing.
There's also a weird glitch with the camera when taking videos of extremely detailed subjects on Snapchat. I don't know when this will be fixed, but I do know that it looks distorted and really weird. I wish I could show you a sample, but the snap was a few days ago.
This is not to say that I don't love this phone though. For more reasons I like this phone better than my iPhone. There are just a few things that the iPhone simply does better. But hey, no phone is perfect.
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i ended up ordering a 6s+ on ebay haha thanks for replying back! I know exactly what you mean, they haven't optimized the camera yet for snapchat i had that happen with my old g4 ..only way to fix that is to use the 3rd party snapchat app called "casper" it allows you to use original camera app. idk what it is but iphones always tend to have the better front camera even with being a lower resolution. Main reason i did not get the z5p is because there is rumors with the z6 plus/ultra coming out soon so i would rather stick with something that wont depreciate yenno
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