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why couldn't samsung make the galaxy note a pentaband just like the Galaxy Nexus? man i'm mad i think they do that on purpose to sell more phones.i just saw the galxy nexus review on engadget. i'm confuse to which one to get, i'm on t-mobile don't want to go to at&t for the note and i love the note more than the nexus. man they're foever playing with us and our money, they never want to give you what you want in one device
You know, not to long ago I was in your shoes but it was the other way around. It was T-mobile for a while that had all the cool Android phones first that I really wanted like the Nexus phones. We were stuck with the sorry excuse Backflip (ATT's first Android phone). Ever since Samsung moved to it's quadband SoC it's been a nice change to get the latest tech even if it isn't "official" and we have to import it.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.
Their initial focus for the Note is obviously not the US, T-Mobile is not the biggest carrier in the US, and T-Mobile uses the AWS frequency range, which almost no one in the world uses. (Does anyone else use 1700/2100?) As much as I would love it if it were Pentaband, I'm not at all surprised that it isn't.
As to the Nexus, it is the ICS flagship, and so Google/Samsung will want it released in as many places as possible, so including AWS makes more sense. The Note, in comparison, might end up being a niche product, so there is probably less pressure to rush it to minor segments.
mircury said:
You know, not to long ago I was in your shoes but it was the other way around. It was T-mobile for a while that had all the cool Android phones first that I really wanted like the Nexus phones. We were stuck with the sorry excuse Backflip (ATT's first Android phone). Ever since Samsung moved to it's quadband SoC it's been a nice change to get the latest tech even if it isn't "official" and we have to import it.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.
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The new Snapdragon S4 chip does provide full broadband frequences:
"• First Fully Integrated 3G/4G: The S4 class includes the
industry’s first fully integrated LTE world mode/multimode
modem"
man you are so right about this part.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.[/QUOTE]
i never even realize this until now, man we're screwed bigtime in u.s
3_D said:
The new Snapdragon S4 chip does provide full broadband frequences:
"• First Fully Integrated 3G/4G: The S4 class includes the
industry’s first fully integrated LTE world mode/multimode
modem"
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That would be nice! I hope Samsung's Exynos follows suit or they start using the S4.
mircury said:
You know, not to long ago I was in your shoes but it was the other way around. It was T-mobile for a while that had all the cool Android phones first that I really wanted like the Nexus phones. We were stuck with the sorry excuse Backflip (ATT's first Android phone). Ever since Samsung moved to it's quadband SoC it's been a nice change to get the latest tech even if it isn't "official" and we have to import it.
But, I'm afraid this honeymoon of ATT users being able to import phones will end with the ATT LTE rollout. Unless Samsung updates its european radios to support US ATT LTE frequencies we won't be able to use european phones on ATT LTE.
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I am happy with Hsdpa+. It's fast enough.
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I'm in debate right now if I should just get the Note 3 from my carrier, T-Mobile, or should I get the international LTE model N9005. The N9005 will support the '4G' but not lte as it doesn't have the US bands. But I'm okay with that. One thing I really want is wireless charging (qi). As I currently have the GN2 from T-Mobile they disabled the hardware for wireless charging so it renders it a pain to even try and get it working. If the T-Mobile model has the qi in tact then I'd just go with that and have lte functionality. But if it doesn't have qi I'd just get the international model.
What are your speculations and opinions? I haven't been able to find anything on the other models aside from the N9000/2/5 which are 3G (octa-core), dual sim, and LTE models, respectively. But carrier specific models have no details. All of which supposedly will support qi. But will the US variants and other carrier specific models cripple us once again by removing features shown (not promised) on the international models?
I'm not sure it's been confirmed either way that the international N3 will not support AT&T's LTE bands. See here for more information...
You better get it from T-mobile, as it will use a different radio than the International version that works on ATT
I too I'm waiting for the T-mobile version release
Well I know the LTE of the international model is not supported in the US as the on lot compatible band is 2100 which 1700 or 1900 is missing for T-Mobile and AT&T, respectively so I'm thinking about getting the T-Mobile if it does come with the qi in tact. Negri has the T-Mobile version for pre-order up for $689.50.
I don't see why wireless charging is so important since you won't have that while driving and charging or at work out in the open where someone could just walk by and take the phone it would only be a convince at home.
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If you've ever used a bb bold you'd understand the convenience of just putting the phone in the charging pod. And it can be done in the dark! And how do you figure I don't have wireless charging in the car? Or at work? Just because you may not find it useful doesn't mean anyone else doesn't. Look at the forums and you'll see how popular the topic is.
By the way, bit the bullet and pre-ordered!
I am starting an Alcholics Anonymous type club for those who are trying to hold out for an unlocked special edition of the note 3, maybe a note 3 active or a flexible screen note 3, or maybe even a Google Edition Note 3. Must. Not. Click. Order.
I'm using an ATT Note 2 and I want to upgrade, mainly because of the better RAM and ROM. But I'm confused by the choices and Knox and locking and all that.
I am going too want to root my phone for sure, and unlock to use on different providers.
Not to worried about the cost.
What's the very best version out there, in your opinion?
capite said:
I'm using an ATT Note 2 and I want to upgrade, mainly because of the better RAM and ROM. But I'm confused by the choices and Knox and locking and all that.
I am going to want to root my phone for sure, and unlock to use on different providers.
Not to worried about the cost.
What's the very best version out there, in your opinion?
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Since the LTE bands tend to be very different from one provider to another the differences are only relevant once you know who is your carrier - so you should probably look / ask in the OTHER Note 3 forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
Also see this to get a start on the matter of portability (or almost complete lack thereof) among those:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498
Thanks. When I mean I will want to use the phone on 'other providers,' I really just mean the GSM-based ones like ATT/T-mo and overseas carriers. I understand that Tmo and ATT use different LTE bands, just hoping that there's at least one unlocked and rootable model that covers both sets of LTE bands.
xclub_101 said:
Since the LTE bands tend to be very different from one provider to another the differences are only relevant once you know who is your carrier - so you should probably look / ask in the OTHER Note 3 forums:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-att
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-sprint
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-note-3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-3-tmobile
Also see this to get a start on the matter of portability (or almost complete lack thereof) among those:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2464498
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capite said:
Thanks. When I mean I will want to use the phone on 'other providers,' I really just mean the GSM-based ones like ATT/T-mo and overseas carriers. I understand that Tmo and ATT use different LTE bands, just hoping that there's at least one unlocked and rootable model that covers both sets of LTE bands.
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Actually, the ATT and TMOBILE gnote3 cover each others LTE bands too. Infact, after unlocking your tmobile gnote3, achieving LTE on ATT should be as easy as popping in a sim card.
I think your choice would be between ATT and Tmo and I believe both can be rooted without tripping Knox. Even thought Tmo supposed to have unlocked bootloader, they use ATT rooted ROMs (since the name delavega root). Personally I would stick with the carrier: Tmo phone will give you Wifi calling, but only on Tmo network, so you can call home for free from anywhere in the world over WiFi. ATT is just beginning to test voice over LTE, no other US carrier has yet. And if you have call issues, are you going to call t-mo complaining their phone doesn't work well on ATT network, or you going to call ATT, that their network signal sucks with T-mo phone? And for example it would be difficult to buy new T-mo phone without at least some temporary t-mo service.
capite said:
Thanks. When I mean I will want to use the phone on 'other providers,' I really just mean the GSM-based ones like ATT/T-mo and overseas carriers. I understand that Tmo and ATT use different LTE bands, just hoping that there's at least one unlocked and rootable model that covers both sets of LTE bands.
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I do not have a lot of experience on the US market but my last link seems to suggest that the TMo version is 100% compatible with ATT LTE (and the other way around), so generally (given the much bigger bootloader freedom on TMo vs ATT) I would say that TMo Note 3 should be a good choice. It will also work on ATT up to the full 4G and worldwide for voice over normal GSM, maybe 3G in many places. Also that last link suggests that once you unlock it (which is IMHO rather inexpensive and worth it) you will be able to use (almost) any GSM SIM in the world.
Hi, I've been a S4 user and a very intrigued reader on this website. XDA has taught me many great things about my Sprint S4. I'm now ready to make the leap to the Note 4 and I'm so confused with all of the different models available.
Here's what I want the phone to do:
- I live in the US, and I would like to set up the phone on the Straight Talk or AT&T network and I obviously want to take advantage of the fastest speeds Straight Talk/AT&T offers.
- I am traveling to England in the Summer for a month and I would like the phone to work on one of their networks. (I would like to have 4G, but if 3G is the only compatible band than that's fine, as long as I'm getting some sort of data).
- I travel to Canada on a monthly basis and I would like my Note 4 to be able to run on the Rogers Network and utilize the fast speeds Rogers offers.
Basically, which Note 4 model will satisfy my needs? I just want to take advantage of the fastest bands available in these places. I've been leaning towards the N910H because my understanding is that it is compatible with all of my above requirements. Is this true? If not, which model should I be look at?
Thank you!
stevenrp said:
Hi, I've been a S4 user and a very intrigued reader on this website. XDA has taught me many great things about my Sprint S4. I'm now ready to make the leap to the Note 4 and I'm so confused with all of the different models available.
Here's what I want the phone to do:
- I live in the US, and I would like to set up the phone on the Straight Talk or AT&T network and I obviously want to take advantage of the fastest speeds Straight Talk/AT&T offers.
- I am traveling to England in the Summer for a month and I would like the phone to work on one of their networks. (I would like to have 4G, but if 3G is the only compatible band than that's fine, as long as I'm getting some sort of data).
- I travel to Canada on a monthly basis and I would like my Note 4 to be able to run on the Rogers Network and utilize the fast speeds Rogers offers.
Basically, which Note 4 model will satisfy my needs? I just want to take advantage of the fastest bands available in these places. I've been leaning towards the N910H because my understanding is that it is compatible with all of my above requirements. Is this true? If not, which model should I be look at?
Thank you!
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I can't say for certain about Rogers Canada, but the US T-mobile variant- SM-910T- is what I have, and you should look into it. Maybe someone with Rogers can chime in about that.
It's 100% compatible with AT&T's fastest LTE bands and most 4G GSM bands used in Europe. It has an unlocked bootloader for easy rooting/ROM-flashing. There is an awesome XDA section devoted to it with some great ROMs and other tweaks. Of course, the major benefit is that if you stroll into a T-mobile store any buy one, it will have a warranty and service options if something were to possibly be wrong with it. Now, you'll need to get the phone SIM-unlocked either through T-mobile directly or an online sim-unlocking service (~ $20-30)
If you wanna spend less in the States, the 910T sells on craigslist, swappa, ebay, etc in pretty large numbers and it's very easy to obtain one in mint condition for a lot less than retail. Obviously, make sure that the device has a good IMEI through swappa.com before buying it used.
I find that lots of people buy the Note 4 and decide to sell it after a while- either they prefer something smaller, or an iPhone, or any number of other reasons like wanting extra cash, but there's tons of em on craigslist here in Chicago.
I bought a Sprint Note 4 in perfect condition from a guy for $350 the other week. Not saying you will necessarily have that type of luck, but just something to ponder.
i use 910U on rogers and AT&T gophone. also used it in the UK, most of europe and asia. this is an exynos taiwan variant with LTE. may not give you the fastest speeds everywhere but its awesome.
In the UK we get the Snapdragon 910F, but the 910H looks good according to the bands I've seen online (I don't know if they're correct mind!)
In the UK different networks use different bands (900, 1800, 2100, etc) for 3G; with some of the bands being shared amongst companies these days. Ideally you want a device that supports 900Mhz UTMS, and the 910H supports the band. The 900Mhz band has better indoor coverage than the higher frequencies as well.
Again 4G is on different bands depending on your provider, but the networks share most of the spectrum at the moment to reduce costs. I believe 4G is on 800, 1800, and 2600Mhz
i use 910U on rogers and AT&T gophone. also used it in the UK, most of europe and asia. this is an exynos taiwan variant with LTE. may not give you the fastest speeds everywhere but its awesome.
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IDK about LTE, but phones for China/HK will work on our 3G networks. I've tried a few 3G iphone knockoffs and had no issues.
Buy International Version, T-Mobile or AT&T Version? (AT&T Member, Paying Full Price)
I'm going to be purchasing the Galaxy Note 7 outright, cash, no payment plan. My ATT Galaxy S4 has a locked bootloader to this very day and it sucks. This is the first time I'll be purchasing the phone outright, so I know I have more options. Here is what I want to know:
1. Can I purchase the T-Mobile Version of the phone and use my ATT sim without any issues? Don't they use the same frequencies and GSM network?
2. If I purchase the international version, does it support all carriers, or only those on the GSM network? I will be traveling to Europe about once a year, so the international version of this phone seems like the best way to go. I just don't know the differences are between it and the ATT version. I know once a phone is unlocked, it can be used internationally, like my Galaxy S4, so maybe the international version isn't that important? (Where can I buy the international version?)
3. Is it best to still buy the ATT version so I can use all of their technologies, such as HD voice and wifi-calling? I don't plan on leaving ATT anytime soon. I also heard that the Snapdragon processor is actually better this time around and the GPU as well if you go with the US version of the phone.
Here is how I plan to use this phone. I'm willing to wait for root, but at some point I want it.
1. I plan to root it and use xposed framework.
2. I want to be able to use samsung pay
3. I want to use the fingerprint reader and the iris scanner.
4. I eventually want to flash ROMs when they stop supporting the phone.
5. I must be able to use mobile hotspot no matter what.
So what do you all recommend I do? Thank you very much for your valuable input!
DuffmasterFresh said:
I'm going to be purchasing the Galaxy Note 7 outright, cash, no payment plan. My ATT Galaxy S4 has a locked bootloader to this very day and it sucks. This is the first time I'll be purchasing the phone outright, so I know I have more options. Here is what I want to know:
1. Can I purchase the T-Mobile Version of the phone and use my ATT sim without any issues? Don't they use the same frequencies and GSM network?
2. If I purchase the international version, does it support all carriers, or only those on the GSM network? I will be traveling to Europe about once a year, so the international version of this phone seems like the best way to go. I just don't know the differences are between it and the ATT version. I know once a phone is unlocked, it can be used internationally, like my Galaxy S4, so maybe the international version isn't that important?
3. Is it best to still buy the ATT version so I can use all of their technologies, such as HD voice and wifi-calling? I don't plan on leaving ATT anytime soon. I also heard that the Snapdragon processor is actually better this time around and the GPU as well if you go with the US version of the phone.
Here is how I plan to use this phone. I'm willing to wait for root, but at some point I want it.
1. I plan to root it and use xposed framework.
2. I want to be able to use samsung pay
3. I want to use the fingerprint reader and the iris scanner.
4. I eventually want to flash ROMs when they stop supporting the phone.
5. I must be able to use mobile hotspot no matter what.
So what do you all recommend I do? Thank you very much for your valuable input!
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T-mobile has many compatible bands, to be very specific
T-Mobile
Quad Band GSM; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850); LTE: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17
AT&T
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, and 29
3G - UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Wi-Fi connectivity 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/r
So the T-Mobile variant is missing 2 LTE bands that AT&T uses (20 and 29).
The international version will be able to use root, custom firmwares, unlocked bootloaders, and whatever else you want. the att version will be so locked down you'll see a 20k bounty begging someone to unlock it, and it may or may not ever get unlocked. I'm still holding my breath for someone to unlock my att note 4. (and that's unlock for root, we wouldn't even dream of an unlocked bootloader..)
any att features will be bundled with the first wave of custom roms, so don't worry.
the international model offers more color options, faster octacore processor, better battery life, far superior sound quality thanks to the dedicated DAC, and will support �� dolphin emulator, which t-mobile and att will not.
the international version will be the best phone no debate. the only reasons to consider getting the t-mobile or att one is convince of getting it in store, plus best buys sd card bundle.
I'm getting the sexy international gold one myself, uncompromised power, battery life, gonna sound great on my new speakers, finally be able to play some super smash on my phone again, just haven't found a place to buy it from yet.
I encourage more people to chime in on this, good luck!
You should check this link to ensure phone model works on whichever carrier before buying:
http://willmyphonework.net/
I wish I'd known about this link years ago!
So, no sd card bundle with international version? That sd card is the only reason it might be worth paying $900 for a phone...
Where can I get the International version of the phone? I don't need Dual Sims. I looked on Amazon and they only list the Dual Sim model.
I think what I need is the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 N930F. B&H Photo Video has it for preorder with a limited B&H warranty. Does the International Model still have a 1-year warranty from Samsung?
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T-mobile has many compatible bands, to be very specific
T-Mobile
Quad Band GSM; UMTS: Band I (2100), Band II (1900), Band IV (1700/2100), Band V (850); LTE: 12, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17
AT&T
4G-LTE Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 12, 17, 20, and 29
3G - UMTS 850/1900/2100MHz
GSM/GPRS/EDGE 850/900/1800/1900MHz
Wi-Fi connectivity 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/r
So the T-Mobile variant is missing 2 LTE bands that AT&T uses (20 and 29).
The international version and the t-mobile versions will both be able to use root, custom firmwares, unlocked bootloaders, and whatever else you want. the att version will be so locked down you'll see a 20k bounty begging someone to unlock it, and it may or may not ever get unlocked. I'm still holding my breath for someone to unlock my att note 4. (and that's unlock for root, we wouldn't even dream of an unlocked bootloader..)
so getting from att is the only wrong choice. any att features will be bundled with the first wave of custom roms, so don't worry.
the international model offers more color options, faster octacore processor, better battery life, far superior sound quality thanks to the dedicated DAC, and will support �� dolphin emulator, which t-mobile and att will not.
the international version will be the best phone no debate. the only reasons to consider getting the t-mobile one is convince of getting it in store, plus best buys sd card bundle.
I'm getting the sexy international gold one myself, uncompromised power, battery life, gonna sound great on my new speakers, finally be able to play some super smash on my phone again, just haven't found a place to buy it from yet.
I encourage more people to chime in on this, good luck!
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Do you have proof? The T-Mobile S7 shipped with a locked bootloader. All U.S. S7's did. So the international model is the only viable option for modders.
Does anyone know if the international version will work on Straight Talk? I currently have a ATT note 4 on my Straight Talk Sim? I just want to make sure I don't loose out on any features.
Im looking to buy this one:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Samsung...hash=item3d21d343c5:m:mv6a3OIYs0V1HNlXutJQbkA