so i know a lot of people are debating getting the note 3, coming from their note 2s, but is anyone else out there considering doing it from their s4?
i like my s4, out of the box theres very little needing to be done. it was the first phone ive owned where custom roms would only mess things up. battery life for days, camera didnt need any hacking, everything ran fast, and looked good. there was an annoying popup turning up volume with headphones, and that was pretty much it. oh yeah and it didnt have a good sound chip like the s3, but the note3 wont either so thats not in the running.
despite being a solid phone, my reason for considering an upgrade is really just to change things up. is anyone thinking of moving to the note3 from the s4?
ill add "Thanks" to anyone giving feedback/input/2¢
note3
better gpu/cpu
more ram
internal memory
possibly s pen features?
s4
screen has better density,, otherwise no other differences?
up in the air
glass type?
probably same LED?
gps?
still pictures?
4k is alright, but what looks better in 1080p? (only thing that matters in 2013)
battery life?
radio?
air gesture? (really ONLY useful for gloves)
I have considered it and for me it's simply a matter of do I need...
1) a bigger screen again and
2) the spen features.
Although tempted by the Note 3 (after a year of the Note and Note 2) I went to the S4 in May. I really miss the spen and larger screen but found the size of the Note devices to be too much of a hassle in/out pocket, etc. But that's just me....I use my S4 (gps) for a lot of outdoor activity (backpacking, running, biking, note taking..ideas, etc.), and the Note 3 size would just make it more difficult to lug around.
My experience w/S4* has been nothing but excellent and it really fits all my needs for a smartphone...although I wish it had an onboard stylus.
So I basically think it's a matter of how you use your smartphones. Currently I'm sporting a S4 combined with Nexus 7. If I did get the N3 I'd get rid of the N7.
No doubt however, when it arrives in the stores i will definitely compare my S4 to the N3 and ponder...can I make it work for me? But the 5", physical size, sensors, etc. of the S4 work great.
*S4: stock, nova. Other than the original Palm pilot, it's the first smartphone I've owned that I haven't jailbreak, rooted, romed, etc. I enjoy the fact that everything works.
I actually will be going from the S4 to the Note 3.
The larger screen size will be nice for the real estate, but it's a slight trade off as I will lose the 1 handed operation I'm used to, and it's the same screen and resolution (diamond Pentile 1080p) as the S4 so you will technically lose some PPI, relevant or not.
For me getting the N3 is largely about the SPen features I'm looking forward to, especially with what I'm working on these days. The bump from 16 to 32GB storage is also welcomed. Also the new radio power management should provide a nice boost and I have little doubt the N3 will last a bunch longer on battery than the S4. USB3 is also a nice plus.
Everything else for me is a wash, Sammy's TW 4.3 will feel the same I'm sure. Yea the 800 will be faster than the 600 but will you see all that in day to day? probably not, but it's more future proof I suppose. Don't care about 4K video, and the camera stills will likely be the same between the two.
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up in the air
glass type?
probably same LED?
gps?
still pictures?
4k is alright, but what looks better in 1080p? (only thing that matters in 2013)
battery life?
radio?
air gesture? (really ONLY useful for gloves)
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Not the same LED. The N3 has more pwoerful LED than the S4.
Both the two variants wont have FM Radio on board.
S4 vs Note3 are pretty much the same device, only in a larger screen.
If I had the S4 I'll probably not get the Note3 unless i wanted a larger screen plus the S-pen
Originally i was going to get the S4 when it was released earlier this year, then i got winds about the Notes3 coming out so I held back, as I wanted all the features from the S4 plus all the feature that the Note3 offers
I'm very glad I waited.
I had this question in mind when I was on s3. I moved to note 2 as it had all features from s3, bigger screen and most of all bigger battery. I am very proud I made that decision so I guess it will be worth to upgrade to note 3 considering the overheating, smearing and poor battery issues of s4.
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I personally think people buy the Note-series for the wrong reasons. The only reason I owned a N2 (and soon an N3) is because I use S Pen/S Note, inking,, and multiview heavily. Those things require a screen at least as large as the Note's. If I didn't use those things I'd have a SGS4 or one of its competitors because lugging around a phablet isn't always fun. If you have decent size hands one-handed operation is workable but still not ideal.
Ask yourself these questions...
Do I want a larger display? - If yes, from a feature/performance/size perspective the N3's a great choice. If you're not in to S Pen/S Note or inking there are other large screen devices, both available and rumored, to consider that may have larger displays than the N3 or lower prices.
Am I moving to the N3 strictly for performance gains? - The Note-series phones have a lot going on under the hood. 3GB of RAM sounds fantastic but multiview and some of the other S Stuff are going to use a chunk of it. S-800's impressive but other smaller devices including the Nexus 5 and a possible LTE-A S-800 version of the SGS4 will be released with it too. So if you're hunting for performance the N3's a great choice but you may have other smaller-sized choices available soon. If you're going to root and run a non-TW ROM the performance of the N3 without Samsung's "features" should be impressive.
Am I creation/productivity user? - Used for what it's intended, there's nothing that competes with the Note-series. If you aren't currently using a device for creation/productivity but are in a creative line-of-work or do a lot of business communication and time management on your phone it might be worth exploring what the Note's features can provide. I have a Note 10.1 and N2 and would never own a non-Note device again. One man's opinion of course.
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Do I want a larger display? - If yes, from a feature/performance/size perspective the N3's a great choice. If you're not in to S Pen/S Note or inking there are other large screen devices, both available and rumored, to consider that may have larger displays than the N3 or lower prices.
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Another thing to consider when answering this question is the downside of having a Larger Display, is the size form factor of the phone itself.
Ask you self these questions:
4. How I'm going to carry this phone on a daily basis?
5. How easy/hard would it be for me to access the phone when I need to answer/make a call?
for me I'm still trying to answer #4, I have Notes 1 and it hasn't been easy, I still use my Galaxy S2 more than my Notes 1 because of this reason.
for answer #5 the Samsung Gear, that watch will finally solve my problem I've been having with the Notes 1, yes, i used Bluetooth before, but it wasn't the same, it was really hard to access the phone to look up things as it didn't quite fit in the usual pockets, specially if you are out in Shorts and T-shirts
at least with the Samsung Gear, no I can keep the Note 3 in arm pocket or something, and then use the Gear to do the basic stuff when i'm out biking on Shorts & Tshirt
which in a way solves the conodrum i was having with quesiton #4
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How I'm going to carry this phone on a daily basis?
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It's funny you'd say that. A ton of people were pissed when it was confirmed the N3 was "only" going to have a 5.7" display. I was thrilled because the N2's size is the max I'd go for something whose primary purpose is a phone and the N3's actually smaller.
I think people play with a phablet in a store and think "it'll be fine." In addition to things you mentioned try to use one running through an airport trying to find a connecting gate. Or with only one hand free walking down the street. What seems "fine" in a store or speculatively changes real fast depending on your lifestyle.
I'm going to upgrade from the S4. I actually don't mind the touch wiz that much I just don't think the S4 has enough juice to run it. I love the phone it just gets really hot when I'm playing games and the battery doesn't last me half a day.
Here is my thought process:
Size - S4 is already large so I already had to get used to changing the way I carry my phone
Battery - I can't get half a day out of my S4 in power save mode with features I would use turned off
Screen - I like as much screen size as I can get and I have trouble typing stuff out on smaller phones. I spend a lot of time correcting.
S Pen - This is something I actually really like, some might not care at all about it
RAM - More = better!
Storage - I got the 16GB S4 and didn't realize how little of it would be left. Without installing anything on my phone I'm at 9 GB with some games at 1-2 GB that is not enough space
I'm jumping from the S4 to Note 3. Can't wait!
I'm also ditching the s4 and getting a note 3.
Being a note 2 owner before the s4 I really regret selling my note 2!
I miss the big screen and tons of battery Life.
Also the s-pen makes it worth while for me.
The s4 is a good device but it doesn't fit my needs.
Can't wait till I get my note 3!
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I too will be making the change from a S4 to a Note 3. Main reason being the bigger screen and the ability to use the S-Pen. I had a Note 2 and sold that to get the S4. After a while, I just really started missing the bigger screen. Even with the smaller S4, I still found myself using two hands anyways. So for me it's really a "once you go big, you don't go back." Also I was able to sell my S4 for $500. Purchasing the Note 3 off-contract which is really the same as purchasing the phone on contract since it's a $225 difference or so between what I sold my S4 for and what I'm paying for the Note 3.
wow what awesome feedback!
so everyone seems to agree the biggest selling point is the S-Pen! what exactly does the S-Pen do? i thought the airview/air hover was supposed to the s4's version of the S-Pen, but airview and air hover are absolutely 100% useless in every possible way imaginable. all these features do are get in the way if youre trying to actually do something.. im positive everyone turned them off after the first few days.
so what does the S-Pen contribute?
i was hoping being able to hover over an area of a webpage would act the same way hovering a mouse does, where it brings dropdown menus, mouse hover features, toast popups, any java/flash/html5 features, and every other thing an on-screen mouse is used for. however samsung implemented none of this, and closesourced its hover features. theyre only used for gimmicky things like turning pages on the touchwiz launcher if you hold it a certain way.. -___________-"...
soo, S-Pen?? wutitdo?
I'll keep my S4. Having a larger phone would only be a hassle for my pockets. Plus I have small hands. My S4 will be my pick. I don't need a bigger phone...
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I missed the screen real estate going from the Note 2 to my S4. I have been anxiously awaiting the Note 3 to step back up to a good size screen. I don't agree that the S4 didn't need anything done to it, but I'm not a fan of all the bloat Samsung and the carriers include on these great pieces of hardware.
edit - For me the S-Pen is secondary. It just happens to be included in a great specced phone with a large screen. I'd gladly buy an identical model without the Pen.
The s-pen isn't the deciding factor for me, though I don't want to give it up either! (I have the Note 2). I use it every once in a while but not often. For me it's all about the screen size. I am one of those who wanted the N3 to be 6" or perhaps even bigger.
However there have been times when it was a bit larger than comfortable in the pocket - ie especially during sports. This was partly the weight, not the size - with loose trousers and big pockets it's worse. Still doable but not ideal; it's a trade off I am happy to make though. Hopefully the lesser weight of the N3 will mitigate that problem somewhat.
On the other hand I'm not considering other brands with larger phones because I think Samsung brings way more software-wise to the table - lots of new features each model, and the s-pen is perhaps the best example. For me the S4 would be too small after the Note 2.
I'm really looking forward to the upgrade as it appears that almost everything on the phone will be improved. Since I have an extra Att upgrade to use and it will cost effectively nothing, upgrading is a no-brainer. If I had to pay full price though I'd wait.
I think if I were you, I'd figure out which phone was the right size; the one I'd be most comfortable with most of the time. After all, feature wise they're pretty close. Both are great devices. (Sorry for long response...)
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One thing I haven't seen people taking about is signal strength.
Maybe it's just me but when I went from the Note to the SGS 3 I noticed a big drop in signal.
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There are already two detailed (p)reviews from phonearena and gsmarena. The former stated the new s-pen features and the latter described them comparatively more in-depth.
Links:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-3-Preview_id3423/page/2
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3_preview-review-986p4.php
So, we got a new pen window to start these fresh new things to enhance the multitasking:
Action Memo
Srapbooker
Screen write
S Finder
These are already been mentioned by knowledgeable and assumption-expert member(s) like @BarryH_GEG earlier in the general threads. Demo'ed in those vids too.
I am using s3 for a li'l over a year and I find s-pen along with these new features (with varying degrees) interesting.
For an S4 (i9500) user it should be exciting to have the exynos variant. Because now the exynos 5420 has HMP support which will never be possible for i9500 s4.
I really don't understand the OP's question
GNote2 owners doubting to upgrade to the Note3 is understandable, however ..
The S4 is a PHONE while the Note3 is a PHABLET, with S-pen capabilities ...the choice is totally personal
Correct me if I'm wrong .....
Edit: Not to mention the fact that somebody already started a thread just like this one a couple of days ago ....what a mess ....
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Hey guys i need your help urgently ! !
I am in a big trouble of buying a smartphone.My 2 choices are galaxy s3 and note.
these are the points that i like about each:-
galaxy s3:-
1.Best performance
2.Lots of added features
3.one of the best camera with burst mode too
4.Great battery life
5.WOLFSON
galaxy note:-
1.bigger better screen imo(its brightness is about 100 cd/m2 more than s3)
I know that s3's ppi is better but that mere 15ppi doesnt mean anything to me
2.Its by far much better looking than s3
3.spen
My main reason for loving the note more than the s3 is its SCREEN.Its sooo bigger and hence better for browsing,gaming,movies etc.
So here my maib questions are:-
1.Is the performance soo much better on s3 than note,specially the gpu?
because i love gaming and the gpu performance is what i need the most ! !
2.I heard and have seen that the ui of s3 so fluent that its now on par with iphone?Then how will be the ui of note?
3.how will be the browser comparision between s3 and note?
I am in hurry for gettibg one because in india we have some offer for note,in which samsung gives sennhieser headphone,flip cover,3000(60usd) games totally for free and this offer experies on 31st may.So what to choose?Even the note 2 will be launched in may be september,so is buying note good idea?
so plzzzzzz help meeeeeeee. . ... ...
thankx to all in advance....
Don't get note for now. I think you should get the best Samsung out there aka s3.
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you should simply go for s3 , it beats note on all aspects except the screen size(if you like the bigger screen).
s3 packs the most powerful gpu for a mobile that are released so far.
Mate go for what you like at the end of the day, You're getting the phone for your needs. Just get the one you think is best suited for you ...
Ya all of you are right.I should be going for s3,but i think that the s3 is a bit narrow on the display front,isnt it? and may be thats why the resolution differ on both i.e 720p vs 800p?
BTW i am currently a s8500 user,i know the s3 will be the right jump for me but is the screen that too smaller than the note?
Personally, I'd go for the newer, better spec'd SIII over the Galaxy Note.
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Ya all of you are right.I should be going for s3,but i think that the s3 is a bit narrow on the display front,isnt it? and may be thats why the resolution differ on both i.e 720p vs 800p?
BTW i am currently a s8500 user,i know the s3 will be the right jump for me but is the screen that too smaller than the note?
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Well it's 0.5 inch smaller than the note. That means around 1.25cm in diagonal range. On a phone it's obvious if you put them next to each other but otherwise I think you will be really happy with S3's screen.
Also just to add to your first post regarding the specs... S3 has C-Pen, it's almost identical to note's S-Pen. Just so you know
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Well it's 0.5 inch smaller than the note. That means around 1.25cm in diagonal range. On a phone it's obvious if you put them next to each other but otherwise I think you will be really happy with S3's screen.
Also just to add to your first post regarding the specs... S3 has C-Pen, it's almost identical to note's S-Pen. Just so you know
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C-Pen? But no special apps like the note has, or?
If screensize is really important to you take the note or wait until Note 2. The size of the note is imo much bigger. Look at youtube videos aka note vs gs3, there are plenty of them. There you will see it.
I have the same problem atm and I think I will wait for the note 2. But I don't know whether I the Note can replace my ipad for browsing...
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Mate go for what you like at the end of the day, You're getting the phone for your needs. Just get the one you think is best suited for you ...
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I'm sorry but I really hate these types of responses. It doesn't offer the OP any real advice either way. He's asking specific questions about performance and quality and answers like this don't tell him anything.
Edit: OP, get the S3 and don't look back. It'll have much better dev support as well, being a flagship device.
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Easy, get the Note now, enjoy that big ass screen. Then get the Note 2 and sell the old one.
I hope the Tmobile SGS Note comes with the S4 processor....
I had the Note and I'm planning to get the SIII. I think if you are a business or artistic kind of guy or use EverNote or have other uses for the wacom pen should be your main reason for getting it.
1.Is the performance soo much better on s3 than note,specially the gpu? because i love gaming and the gpu performance is what i need the most ! !
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You can refer to these benchmarks for now, the Note will be slower, but for real world usage it fast enough to perform any mobile tasks, due to the dualcore Exynos at 1.4ghz. It has the same Mali GPU as the S3, you shouldn't miss out much on the gaming side. I'd say inevitably the S3 will perform faster for gaming, but I don't think will big enough of a difference to matter (besides the typical nerds bragging rights).
Games will still look nicer on the Note big screen. Another advantage with its large screen is if you use onscreen gamepads a lot, you have large area to move your thumbs so the controls seems to register better. It's decent enough that I can play a lot of 'classic' games without needing a physical controller. I think the S3 will be on par too though since its a big screen too.
(its brightness is about 100 cd/m2 more than s3)
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Do not worry about screen brightness for either devices, both Note and S3 will be very bright with these AMOLED screens. The Note at 100% brightness is equivalent to staring at the Sun.
2.I heard and have seen that the ui of s3 so fluent that its now on par with iphone?Then how will be the ui of note?
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I don't have an SIII yet, so I don't know. As for the Note, if you have lots of stuff installed on a non-rooted Stock rom, there will be some lag in animation with touchwiz interface, but if you custom rom and use a lighter launcher, its smooth. It also have ICS now, so that might improve things.
3.how will be the browser comparision between s3 and note?
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I don't know, I don't have the S3 yet, there are new software features and improvements with the S3. But large screen of the Note is a winner here obviously to me, text will be just a bit bigger, sometimes you don't even need to zoom in. It is possible that the S3 can render webpages faster, but I don't know.
Overall, it will be a hard choice, if depends on how much cheaper you can get a Note over the new S3, if you can save at least $200USD by getting the Note over the S3 than its a good deal. If you enjoy large screen estate go for Note, its easier for reading and watching HD movies on it is fantastic. It has excellent camera, great battery life (2500mAh, ICS as well, and better look (imo). If I was someone who already have a Nexus or Note (international), I would not upgrade to the S3, unless I have money to burn. I will get the S3 though since I always want to try the latest stuff and it has some interesting new software features that I don't think Samsung will port to older models because they want you to buy their latest phones.
Same "dilemma" except I have the Note.....I say BUY the Note USED.....try it then decide. You can't lose too much. I have never bought a new International device. Probably won't with the S3 either.
I love the Note's screen. In fact that is the reason I bought one. I still have a back up SGS2 but will sell that when I get the S3 and use the Note as a back up to our phones. The DAC is what tipped the scales for me. I had an iTouch mounted to my bike and had plugged in my earbuds to it when I went for longs rides. (and short ones) The Captiave, SGS2 and Note relagated my iTouch 4 to permant duty on my nightstand alarm where it inevr gets used as my phones also are my alarm clocks.......Be really nice to have some VooDoo Sound again. (Although VooDoo Louder came in handy on my bike.)
I am HOPING I won't miss the screen size of the Note and the trade offs for the many benefits the S3 has to offer in may other areas are worth it. Such as the ease of pocket carrying ( I LIKE the rounded corners LOL) , the many additional features, The Pen is something I do use and will use more since flashing to official ICS as it is virtually no lag anymore.
The SGS2 screen is too small for me anymore. I am not going back there. I think a slightly smaller screen will work better ergonomically.
I have no issue with using the phone with two hands although ICS now has "one hand mode" for the Note" where the keyboard and dialer are rendered smaller and moves to the left in effect giving on the same size as an S2 or iPhone.
Then the Note 2 may or may not come out if those using Note find the S3 covers all the bases well enough.
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C-Pen? But no special apps like the note has, or?
If screensize is really important to you take the note or wait until Note 2. The size of the note is imo much bigger. Look at youtube videos aka note vs gs3, there are plenty of them. There you will see it.
I have the same problem atm and I think I will wait for the note 2. But I don't know whether I the Note can replace my ipad for browsing...
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http://www.theverge.com/2012/5/3/2996873/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-accessory-c-pen-allshare-hub
This is one article talking about that pen. I think there is an actual photo of that pen somewhere.
I think we are talking for 2 really nice phones here but if you would ask me, I would choose SGS3 since it has better screen (pixel density and other improvements).
For me if the gs3 supports the pen feature...then its gonna b my next phone
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Guys i tried a lot for convincing myself to go for the s3,but my heart doesnt allow me for that Its still crying for the 5.3 inch hd samoled
So plz tel me how will be the gaming performance on both?
The main reason bothering much is now its the quadcore season so many apps will be made accordingly for the quadcores......So can i still be able to play those highly graphich demanding games at a good fps on note?
Only the processor is the factor that is stopping me from getting galaxy note! !
I will go for GS3. But, I still have a soft corner for Note. I will suggest OP to wait for Note 2.
Here's my reasons -
I suspect (no insider information, purely connecting dots) Note 2 will have Exynos 5 SoC. I think Exynos 5 just went into mass production in Q2, and was never ready for being implemented into SGS3.
We definitely can expect incremental update in Note's screen. So, either it would be HD SAMOLED PLUS or something like a PenTile 1600 x 1000 resolution keeping the aspect ratio same as OG Note.
But the most important factor could be Samsung huge marketing and developer push for S Pen apps.
They now have a $ 4million prize money for Note and Tab apps. Just a month back they had another S Pen app contest.
http://www.smartappchallenge.com/eng/main.do
You could be getting much better Pen apps.
In either case, both phones will have great support and winner in their own respect.
The note has much more of a "tablet-esque" functionalities to it with handwriting recognition and such.
S3 has only standard android handset features plus the newly demoed items which are unrelated to a tablet style larger screen interface.
For me the question you need to be asking is "do i need tablet functionality and screen size more than i need processing/graphics power and the new added features in S3's touchwiz (smartstay, svoice etc)?"
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My main reason for loving the note more than the s3 is its SCREEN.Its sooo bigger and hence better for browsing,gaming,movies etc.
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Huh? I think the answer is clear which phone you want.
It would be extremely handy to have som release information on the next Note, now. I am considering getting that instead of the SGS 3. I have the SGS 2 and the only thing I miss is screen real estate. And lots of it
Hi all,
i am looking to buy something new, i recently sold my xperia play and bb playbook, i have had iphones, sgs2 in the past and recently a htc one x but returned it because of build quality issues,
im choosing between either:
g note in white, unlocked with flip case and car dock for £350
or
galaxy s3 on contract which will work out to be just over £600
any advice guys? is the note priced ok? any problems to watch out for? etc..
thanks in advance
My thoughts are: Have you used a G note, its hard to go back to smaller screens, i myself was checking on the htc one x , but it felt so small too. and sg3 have the same sice of screen. As of performance, i hardly ever use even half of the performance in my g note, although i never play games, maybe its there you get use of 4core.
Hell, since i bought my note, i hardly use my laptop =)
You get alot bang for the buck if you ask me.
But, like the rest of us, we all want the newest pieses always =)
/snabben
Considering all the S3 features that devs are porting over to the Note, as well as all the dev momentum the Note has now, along with the fact that it has a bigger and higher resolution screen than the S3, not to mention the S-Pen, plus the one you're looking at is unlocked and off-contract AND cheaper? Yeah, I think this is a no-brainer. Get the GS3.
Kidding of course! Seriously though, the Note is a beast. Get the Note.
The note has a superior sized screen and most of the GS3 apps etc ported over and working. No brainer springs to mind.
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I love my Note. Best feature is its screen. Its great that its so big. But its worst feature is that its screen is so big to hold. Bit of a conpromise.
There are things i can't do with the Note cause its so big. Namely one handed use. The S3 is probably small enough to get my thumb across the screen probably as the biggest phone to allow it. S pen is great sometimes. Web pages with that little extra width is great.
Specs are close enough to ignore. Its all on extra width convenience versus too wide for one hand use. Test the feel and see how you feel. Note versus GS3 plus iPad? ;-)
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Urm...easy! The Note is 250 quid cheaper and a great phone if the size suits.
I would definitely say the note!! But isn't asking this question in the Gnote section already answering the question?
No offence.... but asking between the note and an S3 on a note forum is a little silly... clear bias....
In fairness though, I've played with the S3 a bit and I'm not a fan... the phone feels quite cheap material wise and the new touchwhiz still doesn't please me. The screen although lower resolution is slightly better in some areas which is nice... since there aren't many real quad core streamlined applications currently I think its a bit early in the fight to really rule out its power... that being said, for normal day to day use you won't notice any real difference.... I doubt quad core will pay dividends until Jelly Bean....
In the end, the community for the S3 will be fantastic and support will outlive the Note on its name alone...
Personally I'm going to stick with the Note. I prefer the larger screen and the hardware is still up there with the better handsets... the community ROMs are flying and the development community as a whole is fantastically supportive.
I guess the questions you should be asking yourself are:
- Do you want/need a bigger screen?
- Are you willing to wait 6 months to a year for the extra performance to really bare fruit?
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I think u should choose note rather than sg3. Note is more big. So u may watch movie on it. In addition.. The note price is more cheap. I also hardly to use my laptop after i buy my note. A developer also porting a sg3 apk on note. Note also is a tablet. Did u see the advertisement? note is the best.
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Gnote if you want a larger screen and s3 if you want quad core.
Both are great phones so you can't go wrong.
Else wait 6 months or so for the quad core note 2
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No offence.... but asking between the note and an S3 on a note forum is a little silly... clear bias....
In fairness though, I've played with the S3 a bit and I'm not a fan... the phone feels quite cheap material wise and the new touchwhiz still doesn't please me. The screen although lower resolution is slightly better in some areas which is nice... since there aren't many real quad core streamlined applications currently I think its a bit early in the fight to really rule out its power... that being said, for normal day to day use you won't notice any real difference.... I doubt quad core will pay dividends until Jelly Bean....
In the end, the community for the S3 will be fantastic and support will outlive the Note on its name alone...
Personally I'm going to stick with the Note. I prefer the larger screen and the hardware is still up there with the better handsets... the community ROMs are flying and the development community as a whole is fantastically supportive.
I guess the questions you should be asking yourself are:
- Do you want/need a bigger screen?
- Are you willing to wait 6 months to a year for the extra performance to really bare fruit?
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so far google has already mentioned that the ICS browser can support quad core. plus, nvidia has been pushing devs to improve support for quad core in their games, and you can leech off that support with chainfire3d.
and also, s3 is running on 32nm tech whereas we're stuck on 45nm tech. even if you dont use the extra processing power of quad core, we still cant compare with the fact that the s3 can shut down inactive cores, and will use less power and produce less heat for the same tasks as a result of the smaller manufacturing process.
so if he uses browsers and plays high quality games, he can take advantage of the processing power now. and if he doesnt, he can take advantage of the improved battery life. dont need to wait 6 months for that.
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I think u should choose note rather than sg3. Note is more big. So u may watch movie on it. In addition.
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galaxy s3 has 4.8inch screen with 16:9 ratio. so its more or less the same size as our screen except not as wide (or tall if you're looking at it widescreen). movies are generally encoded at 16:9 or 2.35:1. ie. its going to look more or less the same on either screen since 16:9 movies will have black bars on our notes and 2.35:1 movies will have black bars on both devices.
Ill be honest and realistic here.
If you are a "normal" user and like to mess around with your device a bit, and want the fastest, most powerful device for average use, like games here and there, phone calls, sms, etc, get the S3.
If you "love" to mess around with your device(like me) want the biggest and most badass screen, big battery "device" not only phone, get the note. For me, my note is my personal game system, communication device, a mini laptop if you may, that also happens to make calls and texts, and its the perfect device for me.
Im currently looking at both and just want to hear pros and cons like signal and any other issues all comments are much appreciated.
I own a Note 2, and just ordered the N4 for my wife, so I cant comment on the N4 yet. However, I believe it boils down to a handful of differences between them. They are both very, very smooth, very fast phones, so take that out of the equation.
1) Bigger vs smaller screen. I like the Note 2's ginormous screen.
2) Touchwiz vs JB as Google intended. I personally dont mind TW, and can always throw Nova on it if I get tired of it.
3) Updates. Samsung will take way longer obviously than Google. If you MUST have the newest right now, its a no brainer.
4) If using TMo, the Note 2 allows for WIFI calling. May be helpful to you.
5) S-Pen. A bit of a novelty, but kind of useful.
You missed the most important point: tablet-class battery. To borrow a car analogy, there's no replacement for displacement.
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You missed the most important point: tablet-class battery. To borrow a car analogy, there's no replacement for displacement.
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True, forgot about that. I can abuse the hell out of it and get 4+ screen time. Use it gingerly and approach 8.
I've owned both phones and honestly the Note 2 is great choice if you don't mind touchwiz and the larger size.
Note Pros:
It's gets more than double the battery life of the Nexus 4.
Beautiful, larger screen.
Touchwiz extras (wifi calling, multi-window mode, spen, gestures, etc)
Note Cons:
Slower rom development.
A bit too big to use one handed comfortably.
More expensive.
Bloated.
Nexus Pros:
WAY sexier and feels WAY better in hand.
Better development.
Half the price (unlocked)
No carrier bloat.
Nexus Cons:
Battery life not great compared to the note 2.
Speaker not as good.
The stock android on the N4 is nice and the screen size of the note is awesome. I think im leaning to the Nexus because of the Dev support keeps a phone new. Hows the call quality of both?
i'm in the same boat...i already have the n4 but i'm underwhelmed by it coming from the galaxy nexus. i know with the nexus you get the updates but custom roms like cm10 will come along for the note2. another big advantage for the note2 is the expandable storage. otg doesn't even work for the n4
I prefer the N4 as a PHONE, but as a more media-consumption-driven device, the Note 2 would beat it. The N4 is easier in-pocket and in-hand. The Note 2 would be better for reading, video, content creation.
Obviously, I chose the N4 over a Note 2. I prefer the smaller screen (and it's by no means small IMO), the pure or easily customizable Android (I had a Samsung phone before, TouchWiz can eat it), and the ability to jump to essentially any GSM network.
I have both. Initially i preferred my note 2 but now im used to the n4 screen, i much prefer it. To me, the note 2 screen doesnt seem as crisp as n4 & whilst the note w is fast, the n4 seems alot snappier in everyday use for myself.
Obviously watching youtube etc is great on the note 2 due to the real estate of the screen & i find the s pen relly handy & samsung did a cracking job of touchwiz on this device but ive grown to prefer the n4 as my daily driver & the note 2 is going on ebay this weekend!
Hope it helps.
Arguably the two best phones on the market right now. Its always a personal choice cause we all like different things on our phones but major pros of both phones are:
For nexus 4,
PRICE!!!! Pentaband, pure android, no bloatware and you get updates soon as its available. On top of that development is always great on nexus devices. Also more "portable" than note 2, and better screen. Both perform well without any lag so performance is pretty much even.
For Note 2,
INCREDIBLE BATTERY LIFE! I can't emphasize it enough, it truly is something else, ive never seen a smartphone perform so well in that area. More features, S pen has amazing things like air view, more storage, bigger screen means better for media consumption (movies, games blah blah) but size can be a con for some however when you go purchase the note 2 the size is obvious so there's no excuse to complain about it when its so obvious.
Bottom line is both phones are great, but honestly in a long run, a Nexus ALWAYS has the edge because of the support it gets. If you're like me, that does not matter a bit cause I switch smart phones more often than I go to the movies (and its not a joke ).
The galaxy nexus is still relevant to this day, it just received android 4.2.1 while for example, the galaxy s 2 is slowly becoming a retired phone.
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Im currently looking at both and just want to hear pros and cons like signal and any other issues all comments are much appreciated.
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imho the Note is not a phone, I have had the first model just to use it as a digital block notes, and it's cool for that, but please don't think to use it as a phone becouse is heavy and huge, you could use it for some Emergency call, but not as a everyday phone...
...imho
I still on the fence on this i had the 1st note and the galaxy nexus both were great. I dont have LTE in my area with AT&T yet so thats not really an issue so can i use the N4 as a dumb phone on at&t.
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imho the Note is not a phone, I have had the first model just to use it as a digital block notes, and it's cool for that, but please don't think to use it as a phone becouse is heavy and huge, you could use it for some Emergency call, but not as a everyday phone...
...imho
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Only dweebs and squares use cell phones for calls.
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imho the Note is not a phone, I have had the first model just to use it as a digital block notes, and it's cool for that, but please don't think to use it as a phone becouse is heavy and huge, you could use it for some Emergency call, but not as a everyday phone...
...imho
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Only dweebs and squares use cell phones for calls.
N4 has a better CPU/GPU and can be operated 1 handed plus it's pure google and has on screen buttons.
but the note 2 has cool touchwhiz features but it's bloated and too big for 1 handed use.
I have an S3, but have considered switching to the N4, I just cant find the motivation though... will the Quad Core give me that much of a real world NOTICEABLE speed difference? and why does the N4 appear to have a yellow tint to its screen? I also worry about potential quality issues.
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I have an S3, but have considered switching to the N4, I just cant find the motivation though... will the Quad Core give me that much of a real world NOTICEABLE speed difference? and why does the N4 appear to have a yellow tint to its screen? I also worry about potential quality issues.
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i believe that is temporary...just the glue drying - will go away in a week or so.
I came from an S3 and couldn't be happier. The phone does feel a bit faster than my S3 did. Battery life is about the same, the S3 might have been a little better. The only thing I miss about the S3 is the SD card slot, but Google music has me covered.
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I came from an S3 and couldn't be happier. The phone does feel a bit faster than my S3 did. Battery life is about the same, the S3 might have been a little better. The only thing I miss about the S3 is the SD card slot, but Google music has me covered.
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How is the screen size difference? is it real noticeable? and does Netflix, Youtube and videos in general Full Screen?
Is the Yellow Tint really just glue drying? that doesn't make much sense to me.
Between the 2 the Note 2 is easily a better phone. Being a media hog my self I love the huge screen and its beautiful. Also love the design.
Anybody having issues using the N4 on att non-smartphone plan can att tell the difference i really like not having to pay for another smartphone on my family plan.
Which would you go with? I have a few people who are due for upgrade and they're unsure whether to go with the Note 2 or the S IV for AT&T... What does everyone think? Pros and cons of both.
S4 = 1080P = decision over.
Your question should be S4 or wait for N3.
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The Galaxy S4 is just the better choice for me.
1. A lot more pocketable than the Note.
2. 1080p screen.
3. Pretty much anything can be used for screen input.(gloves, pencil, keys, screwdriver, etc...)
Those would be my big 3 reasons.
The display on the N2 is fine. It's achieves 1.073 arcminutes with "1" being the most the human eye can process at 12-15" away. Anything under 1 arcminute can't be resolved by the human eye. The SGS4 and One are probably about 0.66 arcminutes.
As for which to buy, unless you plan on using S Note/S Pen, the SGS4's a better choice. It's got newer more powerful h//w and a bunch of new features. A Note 3 is due out in fall and will have all the features of the SGS4 plus (if rumors are true) the Orb 360 camera, Octa/LTE with Qualcomm's new RF360 LTE radio that supports all 40 worldwide bands, and most likely a 5.9" display in the same size body as the N2. If you buy a SGS4 and take good care of it you should be able to get a decent price selling it as it should hold its value well. Then you can buy the N3 in the fall. I'm a heavy productivity user and won't buy a non-Note phone because of S Pen/S Note. But I think I'm like one of ten people that actually use those features and multiview.
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S4 = 1080P = decision over.
Your question should be S4 or wait for N3.
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What he said. Although I wouldn't stop at 1080p = decision over, it's more than that.
but yeah at this point it's either S4 or wait for note 3.
i would go with s4 or wait for note 3
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The Galaxy S4 is just the better choice for me.
1. A lot more pocketable than the Note.
2. 1080p screen.
3. Pretty much anything can be used for screen input.(gloves, pencil, keys, screwdriver, etc...)
Those would be my big 3 reasons.
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Nice now i can finally put that ice pick i bought to use.
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Nice now i can finally put that ice pick i bought to use.
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Looool
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But if you want more battery life (nearly all tests seem to proof that) and more daily usefull gimmicks (s-pen, multiscreen etc) then you should by a Note 2 for a lower price.
The size still matters
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But if you want more battery life (nearly all tests seem to proof that) and more daily usefull gimmicks (s-pen, multiscreen etc) then you should by a Note 2 for a lower price.
The size still matters
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As said above ^^^^^^^^ I don't need no stinkin' daily gimmicks and always purchase a 2nd battery just in case so as not to worry n such.
It's already been said but:
1080p Screen - Awesome!, Especially with my eyes gettin' older....Lol
Android 4.2
13Mp Camera
More pocketable
Faster Processor
Can't wait - gonna hook it up when the time comes
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I don't need no stinkin' daily gimmicks
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S Pen and S Note are far from "stinkin' daily gimmicks." The problem is too many people buy or consider the N2 for the wrong reasons. I use S Pen and S Note heavily (like at least a dozen times a day) and bought the N2 because of my experience with them on the Note 10.1. And you need a display the size of the N2 in order to be able to ink on it. Some people bought/buy it over the SGS3 for the larger/better display and others bought it for Exynos/LTE. But S Note/S Pen are meant to be the driving features. So I get people not wanting or needing those features but they aren't who Samsung made the N2 for in the first place. There's nothing like the Note-series for people that "get it;" for those that don't, move along, there's nothing to see here. And when the N3 comes out it’ll do more than the SGS4 and be Octa/LTE and a whole new cycle of people buying it for the wrong reasons will start again. And to your point, Nexi purists think every phone that’s not AOSP is a “stinkin’ daily gimmick.” To each their own.
I wondered the same thing for a while,
even though the S4 improves over pretty much everything on the Note II the S-pen and the size do matter.
I decided to go with the S4, but the Note II is isn't in any way a bad phone, maybe it's just everything you need and more
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As said above ^^^^^^^^ I don't need no stinkin' daily gimmicks and always purchase a 2nd battery just in case so as not to worry n such.
It's already been said but:
1080p Screen - Awesome!, Especially with my eyes gettin' older....Lol
Android 4.2
13Mp Camera
More pocketable
Faster Processor
Can't wait - gonna hook it up when the time comes
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only 1080p ? More pixels please for your old eyes. :silly:
Android 4.2 will be on both available.
8 vs 13 MP Cam on smartphones is really nearly the same for me. Except S4 Panorama Software feature.
pocketable? yes this one is a countable difference :victory:
Faster processor? Games?=maybe in 1-2 years a handfull games will profit? standard usage? I run Android 4.2.2 with Dualcore processor on 1,3 GHz lagfree! ?So for what?
You should change the title to Note 3 or S4. N2 v S4 doesn't really make much sense as N2 is still a last gen phablet. I'll get S4 over N3 anytime because the notes are too big for me. And I don't really need s pen so S4 pretty much perfect for me
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I had posted this in the wrong forum so I moved it here.
Not sure what I want to do here. I currently have a Galaxy S3 and a Tab 7.7. I am somewhat happy with the setup, but I have an upgrade coming and know I want to have a member of the Note family. I run my own HVAC company and I am out on the jobsite doing a lot of estimates during the week. I have been wanting to streamline more of my jobsite notes from a tablet to my laptop/desktop. I was hoping for Tab 7.7 to help with a lot of that but it has fallen short of being easy enough to use. I find myself still taking notes on paper and converting to my computer once I get home. The Tab has been regulated to more of toy (which has been great) instead of a useful tool.
I really like the form factor of the 7.7 though. I use it for a Kindle app to do reading, although only at night. I have an older Kindle Touch which is great during the day but at night or in low light I find myself reach for my 7.7 more. I am thinking about getting the new Kindle Paperwhite depending on what I upgrade to.
I really like the form factor of the Note 8.0, but compared to the 2014 10.1 it is seriously lacking specs. The positive on this, is I could probably pick one up for half the cost of the 10.1. Plus I feel that if I get the Note 3 there isn't going to be much of a difference between both devices. I am also a bit apprehensive about having such a large phone.
I know I am all over the board here, but let me know what you think.
Thanks.
If money isn't an object, the 10.1 2014 edition and the Note 3. - Both are poweful beasts with great battery life.
Size of Note 3 is relative, it seems big at first, but now after couple months my old GS3 seems small, but not that much of a difference after all. taking notes with s-pen is much easier than I expected and personally I use it more than I thought I will. So I would go with Note3, but this is Note 3 forum, most people here already made the decision, so it may be one sided view after all. Personally I have no regrets whatsoever and probably won't even look at another phone until Note 4 comes out and even then it would have to really bring something really new to the table. As far as tablets go, 8" is already too big to carry around at all times IMO, but just for home use bigger screen would be better.
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I really like the form factor of the Note 8.0, but compared to the 2014 10.1 it is seriously lacking specs. The positive on this, is I could probably pick one up for half the cost of the 10.1. Plus I feel that if I get the Note 3 there isn't going to be much of a difference between both devices. I am also a bit apprehensive about having such a large phone.
I know I am all over the board here, but let me know what you think.
Thanks.
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I think there is a new Note coming very soon in the 8''-8.8'' range. That being said if you can handle the Note 3 as a phone (which is mostly a matter of having big hands/fingers and large pockets) you might be more tempted by the 10'' or even the new 12'' Note Pro for the extra space.
I have also heard of people using a Note 8 as a phone - together with the very impressive special Bluetooth SPen (which not only acts as a BT headset but also is MUCH easier to hold for notes/drawings).
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Size of Note 3 is relative, it seems big at first, but now after couple months my old GS3 seems small, but not that much of a difference after all. taking notes with s-pen is much easier than I expected and personally I use it more than I thought I will. So I would go with Note3, but this is Note 3 forum, most people here already made the decision, so it may be one sided view after all. Personally I have no regrets whatsoever and probably won't even look at another phone until Note 4 comes out and even then it would have to really bring something really new to the table. As far as tablets go, 8" is already too big to carry around at all times IMO, but just for home use bigger screen would be better.
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Thank you to everyone for the replies.
As for me posting this in the Note 3 forum. I understand that it will have a slight biased. I am leaning more towards the Note 3 anyways. I have seen and held one a few times, and while it feels huge I am sure I will get used to it. I used to think my S3 was big.
I was more concerned with figuring out which tablet to pair it with. I know some people say that the Note 3 eliminates the need for tablet but I still feel the need for one. I like having one to mess around with at home and to watch media on. I also use it on the jobsite to show off equipment and pictures of completed jobs. It is easier to show that off on a tablet instead of a large phone. I have just always been turned off by the larger tablets. They always seemed to bulky and heavy and I never liked laying in bed with one.
I have the Galaxy Note 3 paired with the Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 and I really enjoy it. However, I wonder if the S Pen function may be a little redundant on the Galaxy Note 3 if you have both note devices. I do still jot down things quickly on my phone but I use my tablet more heavily. I personally feel like the 8.0 would be too similar to the size of my phone but I guess it's personal preference. I got the 10.1 edition because I want it to be able to replace my laptop when I'm away from home, carrying my laptop is far, far too bulky. Especially since the fan in my laptop has gone so I'd have to carry my cooler too just to stop my laptop from overheating and turning off. With my tablet I also have a bluetooth keyboard and I just find I can position myself more comfortably when typing. As the others have said, the next gen of the 8.0 line up will most likely be coming out soonish so hopefully you will get the nice HD resolution too. You may also want to consider the S5 that's coming out this year. Perfectly up to you, but I feel my combination works well for me
No brainer...N3 & 10.1.14 all the way. Perfect couple, like Romeo & Juliet or Bony & Clyde :highfive: