Backstory: I've had my Nexus 4 since December 2012. I lived in San Francisco using T-Mobile through August 2013, and I've just moved to Sydney. I got a new sim through Vodafone here, and everything went well. Though my battery did drain a bit faster than usual, I employed Greenify and pretty much solved my problems. Fast forward to this weekend, I used my phone heavily all day and turned it off once it hit 2%. After getting back home for the night, I used it heavily while charging and everything battery/power wise and otherwise was behaving as expected. I went to bed with my phone draining and at roughly ~40% (making a guess) and not on the charger. I woke up at ~3AM, put the phone on the charger, and when i woke up at 6AM, it had only charged to 67%. This was my first sign something was wrong as I usually get a full charge in less than 3hrs. Over the course of the day, I monitored my phone and notice that whether on or off it charges extremely slowly as in 6+ hours still doesn't get to 100%. Additionally, using the phone while it's on the charger is net negative on the battery's charge as in it decreases albeit very slowly while using it on the charger.
I had my phone plugged in last night, and took it off the charger at 2AM at 100%. When I woke up at 6:15AM, I took the following screenshots (attached).
You can see that over 4h 15m off the charger and with no use the phone drained 44% with 37% coming from phone idle, 23% from cell standby, and 15% from wi-fi. This seems ridiculous to me. Can anyone help? What kind of troubleshooting can I do? It feels to me like this is hardware related as I get the problems whether the phone is on or off, but I'm not sure. I'm currently rooted and using AOKP Milestone 2. Here's a screenshot from about phone (attached).
Thanks for any help in advance! I'm really hoping to be able to fix this with software changes as I'd hate to have to buy a new phone with the Nexus 5 right around the corner.
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Backstory: I've had my Nexus 4 since December 2012. I lived in San Francisco using T-Mobile through August 2013, and I've just moved to Sydney. I got a new sim through Vodafone here, and everything went well. Though my battery did drain a bit faster than usual, I employed greenify and pretty much solved my problems. Fast forward to this weekend, I used my phone heavily all day and turned it off once it hit 2%. After getting back home for the night, I used it heavily while charging and everything battery/power wise and otherwise was behaving as expected. I went to be with my phone draining and at roughly ~40% (making a guess) and not on the charger. I woke up at ~3AM, put the phone on the charger, and when i woke up at 6AM, it had only charged to 67%. This was my first sign something was wrong as I usually get a full charge in less than 3hrs. Over the course of the day, I monitored my phone and notice that whether on or off it charges extremely slowly as in 6+ hours still doesn't get to 100%. Additionally, using the phone while it's on the charger is net negative on the battery's charge as in it decreases albeit very slowly while using it on the charger.
I had my phone plugged in last night, and took it off the charger at 2AM at 100%. When I woke up at 6:15AM, I took the following screenshots (attached).
You can see that over 4h 15m off the charger and with no use the phone drained 44% with 37% coming from phone idel, 23% from cell standy, and 15% from wi-fi. This seems ridiculous to me. Can anyone help? What kind of troubleshooting can I do? It feels to me like this is hardware related as I get the problems whether the phone is on or off, but I'm not sure. I'm currently rooted and using AOKP Milestone 2. Here's a screenshot from about phone (attached).
Thanks for any help in advance! I'm really hoping to be able to fix this with software changes as I'd hate to have to buy a new phone with the Nexus 5 right around the corner.
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Is anything wrong with your battery? If it is in very bad shape, you should probably get a new battery.
I don't know that even excessive wake-locks would cause a phone to charge that slowly, especially a Nexus 4.
Was it on the dedicated wall charger? Have you tried multiple chargers? Multiple wall sockets?
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Is anything wrong with your battery? If it is in very bad shape, you should probably get a new battery.
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What's the battery replacement like for the N4? Can't be an easy job that's for sure.
Try factory reset if not battery might be taking a dump
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I've used multiple chargers, usb cords, from computer, dedicated wall charger, etc. and it behaves no differently. How can I test to see if my battery is in bad shape or not? Also, how would you suggest replacing the battery?
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Also, how would you suggest replacing the battery?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FlLncBp6jI
Even though the battery stats isn;t showing the phone as awake, I wonder if there is an errant app causing a wakelock. I would definitely check with better battery stats to see if anything is preventing your phone form sleeping when not in use.
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Even though the battery stats isn;t showing the phone as awake, I wonder if there is an errant app causing a wakelock. I would definitely check with better battery stats to see if anything is preventing your phone form sleeping when not in use.
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The problem is that it's not only discharging quickly while on but charging slowly while off.
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The problem is that it's not only discharging quickly while on but charging slowly while off.
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Agree, that doesn't sound normal. Still I would check before buying a new battery.
Do a *#*#4636#*#*
Look at Battery information
See if there is anything telling.
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Do a *#*#4636#*#*
Look at Battery information
See if there is anything telling.
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Attached is what I see. Everything looks normal to me? Not sure what I should be expecting though.
When in doubt, frag out.. I mean BBS out..
Use betterbattery stats and it gives a lot more info and may help you pinpoint the issue..
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Attached is what I see. Everything looks normal to me? Not sure what I should be expecting though.
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94.64 degree fahrenheit for the battery. Is that high?
edit: Mine says 95 degrees
It seemed that google play services was sucking most of the juice, but this isn't always the case. I decided I was just going to go with flashing a new ROM, but even with USB debugging on and Connect as Media Device checked off in USB Computer Connection, I can't get my computer to recognize my phone via USB. I've tried this with two different cords, multiple ports on my computer, and even with a friend's computer. I'm starting to think my phone has just completely **** itself. Any advice?
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94.64 degree fahrenheit for the battery. Is that high?
edit: Mine says 95 degrees
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your body temperature averages 98.6F. keeping your phone off and in a tight pocket on a warm day could raise the temperature to 95F. so, is 95F high?
Got exactly the same problem, already replaced the battery, but that wasn't the problem. Can t RMA because I'm not on the country Where it has been bought, so I'm really with my hands tied in here.
I already thought it could be the Qualcomm Power manager (IIRC) that is damaged, but that chip is soldered onto the mainboard..
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Edit/Update: Phone completely **** out today, won't turn on, and only displays a solid red LED light for ~60 seconds after plugging into a wall charger. Good thing it's in warranty I guess.
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Edit/Update: Phone completely **** out today, won't turn on, and only displays a solid red LED light for ~60 seconds after plugging into a wall charger. Good thing it's in warranty I guess.
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ohhhh holy crap...
Dont worry. just charge your mobile for atleast 8 hrs and then switch it on.
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That's right... For some stupid reason, our phones don't detect when the battery is ACTUALLY full. Getting annoyed with the having to charge my phone twice a day, I stuck my battery in my old Touch Pro 2 (left it powered off) and plugged it in... It took about 5 hours for it to fully charge and I let it sit for another hour.
I took it off the charger at 11AM... It is now 11PM and I'm at 68% and I've been doing more browsing and downloading than usual. Previously, I would have hit 20% by now and had to plug in the charger.
Once you charge the battery in this manner once, it should be fine from there because the cells have been fully charged for the first time. As long as you don't drain the device completely, you shouldn't run into battery issues.
Ordered a multi-function battery charge and two aftermarket TP2 "1500mAh" batteries from eBay, all for $11, hopefully they're good
I've been pounding the hell out of this thing today... I've racked up 8 hours of "active" usage... so actually I've used my phone more than normal.
The first clue for me was the fact that my battery didn't drop from 100% to 90% in five minutes like it was before... It would usually drop to 80 within an hour, even on standby...
It was at 92% when I got to work at noon.
Unreal, I never thought I would search ebay for a phone with a BAD esn
What I think is unreal is that our 2010 devices can't do something other devices have been able to do since 2006... AT LEAST 2006...
I'm running fresh .3 and I've had the phone unplugged for 1d 0h 15m and still have 30% left... so I don't have an issue with the battery at all.
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What I think is unreal is that our 2010 devices can't do something other devices have been able to do since 2006... AT LEAST 2006...
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I have an IPAQ Pocket PC from 2002 that detects and charges its lithium battery just fine!
Plancy said:
Ordered a multi-function battery charge and two aftermarket TP2 "1500mAh" batteries from eBay, all for $11, hopefully they're good
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I have two of these chargers and 4 batteries. I keep two at work and two at home.
These chargers top the battery completely off. I can take a battery that is "fully charged" in the phone and put it in the charger and it will still need 20-30 minutes of charging. The batteries off the charger will stay at 100% for up to 20 minutes, the ones charged in the phone plunge within 1 minute for me.
I really hope this issue can be fixed with a software update. Charging once a day is one thing, but having to take the cover off, battery out and reboot every morning is not acceptable. Not to mention that I rely on my phone while it is charging for emergency calls.
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I really hope this issue can be fixed with a software update. Charging once a day is one thing, but having to take the cover off, battery out and reboot every morning is not acceptable. Not to mention that I rely on my phone while it is charging for emergency calls.
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AFAIK it affects all HTC Android devices. HTC is lazy. Anyway I even put my old TP battery which hasn't been charged for at least 6 months in and charged it with the TP. It appears the first 5% is dead but it is still kicking ass and taking names over the charge I get from the evo.
myth_mn said:
I'm running fresh .3 and I've had the phone unplugged for 1d 0h 15m and still have 30% left... so I don't have an issue with the battery at all.
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Your battery was probably charged to capacity before they sold you the phone. Once a lithium ion battery has been charged to 100% it maintains its charge unless you screw it up by running it down to empty a few times. The problem is that for whatever reason HTC didn't see fit to charge all batteries to their max first even full well knowing that they won't get conditioned properly by the phone.
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AFAIK it affects all HTC Android devices. HTC is lazy.
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Er...the TP2 is an HTC device though!
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I stuck my battery in my old Touch Pro 2 (left it powered off) and plugged it in...
I took it off the charger at 11AM... It is now 11PM and I'm at 68% and I've been doing more browsing and downloading than usual. Previously, I would have hit 20% by now and had to plug in the charger.
Once you charge the battery in this manner once, it should be fine from there because the cells have been fully charged for the first time. As long as you don't drain the device completely, you shouldn't run into battery issues.
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I have two of these chargers and 4 batteries. I keep two at work and two at home.
These chargers top the battery completely off. I can take a battery that is "fully charged" in the phone and put it in the charger and it will still need 20-30 minutes of charging. The batteries off the charger will stay at 100% for up to 20 minutes, the ones charged in the phone plunge within 1 minute for me.
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Did you buy from tuttoit on eBay?
Plancy said:
Ordered a multi-function battery charge and two aftermarket TP2 "1500mAh" batteries from eBay, all for $11, hopefully they're good
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I did too, but think mine is defective. The batteries are pretty good for backup purposes and do their job. My wall charger sucked though. I had a Droid Eris hooked up via USB and a battery on the charger. After about an hour and a half, the Eris charged fine, but the battery was like at 30%.
Now the deal breaker is when I got home. I tried to charge a battery and my EVO via USB. When ever I hooked up the USB my phone litterally lagged almost would freeze to a point. I removed the USB cable and phone worked fine. So in all my charger sucked and can charge the battery but really slow.
I ended up just charging the batteries with the OEM charger and EVO turned off.
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Er...the TP2 is an HTC device though!
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Yes, but an HTC Windows Mobile device, not Android.
I think OP is talking about the TP2 OEM battery, not some knock off that you buy off ebay. FYI there are tons of battery for TP2, so it would have been better if the OP can tell us exactly which one he got. Check out batteryboss for comparsion:
http://batteryboss.org/
Could there potentially be a software fix to make the evo handle battery management better, like the tp2?
nebenezer said:
Could there potentially be a software fix to make the evo handle battery management better, like the tp2?
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I am dying for Lumos on my EVO. I don't think the auto brightness control works for crap on my phone.
lettcco said:
I think OP is talking about the TP2 OEM battery, not some knock off that you buy off ebay. FYI there are tons of battery for TP2, so it would have been better if the OP can tell us exactly which one he got. Check out batteryboss for comparsion:
http://batteryboss.org/
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Actually i was talking about putting your evo battery IN a touch pro 2 in order to charge all the cells.
So this is the reason why the EVO appears to be charging its battery so fast. I plugged it in, and it takes less than an hour to start beeping "I'm full."
......Because it's not really full.
That would explain why I was about to sleep, the EVO was charged, and I got an email, so it kept beeping every 10 minutes or so. which was annoying. I had to unplug it so I could sleep. I slept only 7 hours, and I heard the phone on the little table beeping again like crazy in the morning. I checked what it wanted, and it was the super warning that the battery was about to die.
No use at all in 7 hours, and the battery went from "fully" charged to almost ZERO.
I was almost crying of laughter. I just thought what a piece of junk. Hopefully I'm wrong.
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Now, let's watch the soccer game, let's see how the USA does.
Has anyone else seen this? From 100 to 90% the power just drops almost instantaneously but after 90% its normal.
Already been brought up, a lot.
Apparently when your phone charges up it stops once it reaches ~100% and begins discharging, even though it is still on the charger. People will turn their phone off after a full charge and charge for an additional 20min to an hour before they get another green LED. People have reported much longer battery life when doing this, but it is a pain in the ass.
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Already been brought up, a lot.
Apparently when your phone charges up it stops once it reaches ~100% and begins discharging, even though it is still on the charger. People will turn their phone off after a full charge and charge for an additional 20min to an hour before they get another green LED. People have reported much longer battery life when doing this, but it is a pain in the ass.
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Ahh interesting. I thought I was running into an old winmo rom flashing issue where if you flashed under 50% battery life you could never charge the device above that point.
Yea it sucks but it works... I just ordered an external battery charger since I have 2 batteries now so I don't have to do this anymore
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two_cents said:
Yea it sucks but it works... I just ordered an external battery charger since I have 2 batteries now so I don't have to do this anymore
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Hmm i tried and it acted the same way.
Apparently the HTC models act like older phones did back in the day. What HTC needs to do is put something on the phone face itself when new that says "CHARGE FOR 4 HOURS BEFORE INITIAL POWER ON FOR MAXIMUM BATTERY LIFE."
Once you do this once you dont have to keep doing it. I also powered on my phone the minute I got it and activated it without charging it first and I was seeing this issue until I did a power off charge. The phone runs from 6am to 11pm without an additional charge cycle in the day and that is a huge improvement for me. I was charging the phone twice to three times daily.
[Q] Wifi Tether: Subject to $15 T-Mobile Charge?
Curious about this. Currently I'm connected to my laptop for the past 15 min just fine; no alert came up that said I had to get the $15 fee that T-Mobile charges for the "privilege" of tethering on my current plan. Does that mean that an unlocked phone isn't subject to T-Mobile's tampering?
If so, is this the only value for rooting right now? I don't see any other need for root with this phone except if it fools T-Mobile.
Thanks in advance for your answers.
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
allen099 said:
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
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This is normal, search some threads
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This is normal, search some threads
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I see that some people don't get to 100% during the actual charge process, but haven't seen my issue yet. I'll keep looking. So many of these threads...thanks.
Just trying to figure out whether it's worth going back for another phone or battery. What would you do?
Id keep it, there was an article posted in one of the threads stating why phones do this...the N1 did a similar thing where after it charged going from 100-96 percent went really quickly
i would equate it when you buy a 16 gig SD card and it shows as 15.6 gigs
Same thing here... pretty sure it's happening to most people.
Read this: http://byrong.com/PowerTesting/
allen099 said:
I know there are numerous threads about battery life, but this one isn't about the life itself really.
I can charge my phone to 100%, but when I unplug it, the battery indicator shows 97% right away. I plug it back in, rinse and repeat, and get the same issue. I even tried charging with the phone off.
Ha anyone had luck with using a full 100%?
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Mine did this until I calibrated the battery. Charged it to 100%, then drained it all the way. Charged it back up to 100%, and now not only does the battery last longer, but the percentage seems to go down in a more linear fashion.
Read on...
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/1...bump-charging-and-inconsistent-battery-drain/
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Mine did this until I calibrated the battery. Charged it to 100%, then drained it all the way. Charged it back up to 100%, and now not only does the battery last longer, but the percentage seems to go down in a more linear fashion.
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Same here, I've done this two nights in a row, but no change.
Thank you for the links, guys. Pretty insightful actually. I've got it charging right now at 99%. As soon as it hits 100%, I'll take it off and see if it drops instantly. I'm guessing it shouldn't as it JUST hit 100%. But we shall see..
Thanks again!
Same issue here afetr the caliberation and all
I really wouldnt worry about it guys, not like magical unicorns are eating your percentages
Well...I mean, it's not something anybody is "worried" about, but it does suck because I use my phone heavily as I'm in the IT field ... so every percentage counts. After I just unplugged, it went to 99% which my N1 did as well. I'm fine with 99%, but 97% seemed a bit low.
Full charge oddity
When the phone has been switched off and charging the phone shows the fully charged icon on screen when charging appears to be done. Battery Indicator Pro displays only a 95% charge when the phone is switched on. The same happens when the phone is on and being usb charged. When 100% charge is shown and the usb cable is removed the charge is then shown as 95%. This does not happen on my other devices running 2.2. They will show 100% or 99%. A device design or 2.3 bug?
Read this whole post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=871051
The epic 4g has this problem. I think its something with samsung. You have to unplug it, plug it back in, let it charge to full again and rinse repeat until its really at 100%
Then reset your battery stats in cwm
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As noted in the stickied FAQ and further discussed in the link provided by nxt (Beat me to it!), this is by design folks.
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Q: I unplugged my phone, and my battery dropped from 100% to 95% immediately, or it won't/takes along time to charge past 99%, what gives?
This is by design. Your phone will slow down and eventually stop pulling charge at or slightly greater than ~95% regardless of what your battery indicator says. This is to extend the overall life of the battery, as constant 100% to 0% charge/discharge cycles will cause it to fail prematurely. If you're interested in really pushing it to 100%, you can use a technique that is called "bump charging" and is better detailed here: http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/12...battery-drain/
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<- Link has more or less the same info as nxt's.
maybe we need multiple FAQ stickies in this board..
Weird battery reading
My Nexus S was at about 16% when I put it on the charger then I did a quick reboot and it said it was at 52%. I unplugged it, powered off, pulled the battery, then rebooted and it read 28%. Even that is hard to believe after less then 5 minutes of charging. Has this happened to anyone else?
Stock 2.3.1 unrooted
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Has this happened to anyone else?
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Yes, that has been reported by a number of people. It has happened to me as well when rebooting while charging. Nothing is wrong with your battery though, it just must be a battery stats bug.
Good to know. Thank you for the prompt reply
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My gf said her N7 showed a 0% charge even though 2 hours earlier she had a 60% charge. She then plugged it in and restarted, then it showed a 60% charge again.
Any ideas what may be wrong?
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My gf said her N7 showed a 0% charge even though 2 hours earlier she had a 60% charge. She then plugged it in and restarted, then it showed a 60% charge again.
Any ideas what may be wrong?
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is it rooted? maybe wiping batter stats will fix it.
Its not rooted.
Fufu_the_Great said:
is it rooted? maybe wiping batter stats will fix it.
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Not likely. Battery stats has absolutely nothing to do with reported charge level. Wiping it will have the same effect as clearing his market search history... None at all.
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Are you using the charger that came with the Nexus 7? 'Cause the same thing happened to me last month. I used a charger I got from ebay, plugged it in, charged all day, came back, unplugged it, turned on & said it was in the red!
Same thing happened to me shortly after I had the N7.... and that was with using the supplied mains charger and cable.
All I did was leave it alone for a further hour and when I then went back to check the screen it had jumped all of 13%.
I was tempted to return the N7 but as it was night and I couldn't return it I left it on charge overnight...... The following morning it was 100% charged.
Since then it's been charged dozen's of times and not once been a problem since (says he touching wood).
My problem is that it wont show that its charging even tho it is. Tried all chargers i have and even the stock one is same. Was going to return it but all the horror stories I've heard i decided not going to bother. Chances are i get a worse unit back. Personally it looks like the connector is not going all the way in. I am going to shave some of the plastic off and see if that helps. Anyway I think Google needs better quality control at Asus and even at Samsung, i remember how my Gnex was packaged.
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im running aokp JB build 2 and everytime i turn it on, the little battery icon says for example "54%" and on the lock screen it says "100%"
kinda strange. I was about to ask if it was rooted also, but someone did that before me, so im lost for words
Hello,
I noticed some crazy things happening to my N4 during charging yesterday.
It was at about 20% and I had a few hours to charge it before going out for the night. I charged it to about 50% and then stepped out of the house.
After I came home at night, I plugged it in like I do before I go to bed. I woke up after 5-6 hours to use the bathroom and checked my phone. It was stuck at 76% charging. I knew something was wrong because it shouldn't of taken 5-6 hours to get to 76%. I opened my battery settings and noticed something very weird happening.
The indicator was saying "76% Charging" and then "76% Not Charging" and it was alternating between the 2 really fast. It was as if I was taking the plug out of the wall and putting it back in REALLY fast. I checked the outlet and it was fine, it was plugged in just fine (I've been using the same outlet fine for a week)
I restarted the phone and suddenly the battery jumped to 86%. WTF?
I kept it charging and went back to sleep. Woke up few hours later and it got stuck at 76% again! And it sat there bouncing back and forth like before.
I restarted the phone a FINAL time and then finally it fully charged to 100%.
WTF is going on?
Seems like your battery indicator might have been messing up, reboots fix this
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Yeah sounds like it but really odd how it got stuck at 76%.
When it hit 86% it just stayed consistently charging but the % wasn't increasing. Looking at the battery graph from last night it seemed to be at 86% for at least a few hours.
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I would leave it charging for such a period that it would be at 100% if it was at all normal.
Then reset battery stats, let it fully discharge through use, recharge, and see how it goes.
Ranguvar said:
I would leave it charging for such a period that it would be at 100% if it was at all normal.
Then reset battery stats, let it fully discharge through use, recharge, and see how it goes.
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Reset battery stats without root permissions? Don't think it's possible, right?
A few others experiencing this, here's one other thread, there are more mentions of it elsewhere. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012885
I submitted a report here: http://code.google.com/p/android/is...4"&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
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A few others experiencing this, here's one other thread, there are more mentions of it elsewhere. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2012885
I submitted a report here: http://code.google.com/p/android/is...4"&colspec=ID Type Status Owner Summary Stars
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Thank you for the info!
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Thank you for the info!
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NP. I'm trying to get data on Li-Po batteries that doesn't originate from an RC plane/car/heli website, turns out it's really, really hard