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A lil' update bout "ROOT" from Cyanogen on Twitter

I thought I'd share it with y'all
http://pastebin.com/cm75Z9UA

I just wish the media would see these things and correct the false stories they put out. :|

eddieringle said:
I just wish the media would see these things and correct the false stories they put out. :|
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who cares what the media says in regards to this topic
but this seems like good news

call me dumb but where does this link reference cyanogen?

arich said:
call me dumb but where does this link reference cyanogen?
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I was thinking the same thing. It said it was uploaded by anonymous, right?

Cyanogen tweeted that link.
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arich said:
call me dumb but where does this link reference cyanogen?
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I dont believe it does and all that it does say is what we already know
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Thank You
Thank god that one of the best android phones ever is able to be rooted. If the G2 was not able to be rooted, i think that that would just be going against the whole "open source" theme that android is going for ,.

dkaz46 said:
Thank god that one of the best android phones ever is able to be rooted. If the G2 was not able to be rooted, i think that that would just be going against the whole "open source" theme that android is going for ,.
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Um, hate to tell you, but HTC and T-Mobile have pretty clearly demonstrated their stance of Free Open Source Software. The whole idea of locking us out goes against the spirit of Linux and Open Source. They are taking the work of others, and using it to turn a profit, screw the user in the process.
My G2 goes back this week. **** you T-Mobile, you just gained another b-stock G2.

Got mine til next Sunday. If no perm root by then, its going back. Guess ill have to stick with the vibrant, but oh well, at least its rootable.
HamNCheese said:
Um, hate to tell you, but HTC and T-Mobile have pretty clearly demonstrated their stance of Free Open Source Software. The whole idea of locking us out goes against the spirit of Linux and Open Source. They are taking the work of others, and using it to turn a profit, screw the user in the process.
My G2 goes back this week. **** you T-Mobile, you just gained another b-stock G2.
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jtc442 said:
Got mine til next Sunday. If no perm root by then, its going back. Guess ill have to stick with the vibrant, but oh well, at least its rootable.
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give it time the vibrant is a nice phone no doubt but the g2 will have way more support for one being HTC and two being stock so being able to mod things for the g2 willsorta be how the nexus one is..which has great support who knows g2 might have 3.0 before samsung has 2.2 lol dont quot me either way you have a great phone

I understand, believe me. But I got this phone for its speed, which it def has, its support, being HTC, and the root ability, which is not here, yet at least. I need tether, bad. I hate the vibrant, but its so easily rootable. And I have tether. Had sprint and the evo. Left it for this phone. No regrets other than the crap they pulled on this phone. I wanted the hspa speeds, the vibrant I had right before this one, got almost the same speeds. So why not go back?
cdw9800 said:
give it time the vibrant is a nice phone no doubt but the g2 will have way more support for one being HTC and two being stock so being able to mod things for the g2 willsorta be how the nexus one is..which has great support who knows g2 might have 3.0 before samsung has 2.2 lol dont quot me either way you have a great phone
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arich said:
call me dumb but where does this link reference cyanogen?
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He posted the link by twitter.
http://twitter.com/#!/cyanogen/status/26897673549

Hate to tell you, but the bug referenced is not a bug-as-in-a-hole-to-be-exploited. It's a bug in behavior, where changes to /system are thought to be successful by linux but actually aren't. Instead of getting a this-is-read-only error, the write appears to go through. And when the cache is flushed or when the phone is restarted it's apparent that nothing was written at all.
That said, work is still underway.

jtc442 said:
I understand, believe me. But I got this phone for its speed, which it def has, its support, being HTC, and the root ability, which is not here, yet at least. I need tether, bad. I hate the vibrant, but its so easily rootable. And I have tether. Had sprint and the evo. Left it for this phone. No regrets other than the crap they pulled on this phone. I wanted the hspa speeds, the vibrant I had right before this one, got almost the same speeds. So why not go back?
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i had the vibrant...and i got the feeling i was going to get burned by samsung the g2 came out.... what tuesday? but if you feel you be happier with your vibrant by all means do what you feel i miss the mp3 player but not enough to turn my back on HTC lol i vowed to only buy HTC from now on oh and have you tried pdanet for tethering its free check the market my gf uses it for her laptop

Here's the deal dude

I'm going to go get the evo this weekend because Verizon is or has been to exspensive. I've been doing the proper research for root and I think I got that down for the most part. I gotta say I'm pretty impressed with the amount of roms you guys have compared to the dx. I'm addicted to flashing roms which is very frustrating when it comes to the dx as there is such lack of roms for it, oh well who fukin cares cry your self a river build a bridge and get over it..so here's my question . Can I flash different roms over top of each other??? Like for instance from cm7 to whatever rom. I know you have to wipe data and stuff already. Is there anything important I need to know??? Thanks
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Unless you want dialuo 3G speeds and worthless 4G, don't touch sprint with a 19 foot pole.
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Hrshycro said:
Unless you want dialuo 3G speeds and worthless 4G, don't touch sprint with a 19 foot pole.
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Strange, he didn't say anything asking for opinions of Sprint.

stevo760 said:
I'm going to go get the evo this weekend because Verizon is or has been to exspensive. I've been doing the proper research for root and I think I got that down for the most part. I gotta say I'm pretty impressed with the amount of roms you guys have compared to the dx. I'm addicted to flashing roms which is very frustrating when it comes to the dx as there is such lack of roms for it, oh well who fukin cares cry your self a river build a bridge and get over it..so here's my question . Can I flash different roms over top of each other??? Like for instance from cm7 to whatever rom. I know you have to wipe data and stuff already. Is there anything important I need to know??? Thanks
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What do you mean by "on top"??

Hrshycro said:
worthless 4G
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lol... my 4G is 6x faster than my friends incredible ...

Switching from one rom to another rom. Not combining roms.
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Hrshycro said:
Unless you want dialuo 3G speeds and worthless 4G, don't touch sprint with a 19 foot pole.
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What he said.
i would recommend you browse the Evo general forum and you will know what we mean.sprint's data speeds have been horrible for the past 3 months or so,and this seems to be a nationwide problem and not an isolated issue.

stevo760 said:
I'm going to go get the evo this weekend because Verizon is or has been to exspensive. I've been doing the proper research for root and I think I got that down for the most part. I gotta say I'm pretty impressed with the amount of roms you guys have compared to the dx. I'm addicted to flashing roms which is very frustrating when it comes to the dx as there is such lack of roms for it, oh well who fukin cares cry your self a river build a bridge and get over it..so here's my question . Can I flash different roms over top of each other??? Like for instance from cm7 to whatever rom. I know you have to wipe data and stuff already. Is there anything important I need to know??? Thanks
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As you can see, we have our share of trolls here on the EVO side of XDA but you should be used to that by now coming from DX. These low-lifes are rampant on these forums, just ignore them and you will be ok...
Regarding your question. Technically, if you are flashing a newer version of a rom like say going to CM7 2.2 coming from 2.1, technically you do not have to wipe everything, just dalvic cache but if you are flashing a completely new rom then it's best to completely wipe everything. There is a zip called "format all" http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=785271
somewhere in the OP in this link, and you can just flash that zip before you go to a new rom and it automatically wipes absolutely everything for you, so you won't have to worry.
I highly recommend you use the format all zip before every rom update or change, just to be safe. And make sure you create a nand backup before hand.
Welcome to the dark side! I'm sure you will love your evo!
P.S if you're looking for roms to try out, particularly AOSP, I highly recommend MIUI. For a sense rom, go with any of Calkulins.
Let me know if you need anything else.

Come on dude is sprint really that bad??? I'm on wifi most of the time anyways. If its really that slow ill just take it back and if the wont take it back then ill show them how slow my car can drive through there window accidently and my peice of **** car drives pretty slow. It might not get me a new phone but atleast I can say I tried
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So what's the deal pickle?

NYCguy2020 said:
What he said.
i would recommend you browse the Evo general forum and you will know what we mean.sprint's data speeds have been horrible for the past 3 months or so,and this seems to be a nationwide problem and not an isolated issue.
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That has been acknowledged and is being worked on and will no doubt certainly be fixed soon.
Also, refunds are issued for those with the issue.

stevo760 said:
Come on dude is sprint really that bad??? I'm on wifi most of the time anyways. If its really that slow ill just take it back and if the wont take it back then ill show them how slow my car can drive through there window accidently and my peice of **** car drives pretty slow. It might not get me a new phone but atleast I can say I tried
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There have been SOME data issues, I'm one of them that OS having it, but its only a temporary issue they are working on.

stevo760 said:
Come on dude is sprint really that bad??? I'm on wifi most of the time anyways. If its really that slow ill just take it back and if the wont take it back then ill show them how slow my car can drive through there window accidently and my peice of **** car drives pretty slow. It might not get me a new phone but atleast I can say I tried
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I'm telling you man, do not get into any kind of conversations with some of these folks. Their goals in life are to literally be useless. Ignore them and just do what you gotta do. Don't let anyone alter your decision.

Disregard what the morons are saying about Sprint. Sprint is by far the best value in wireless services. The amount of money you'll be saving will more than make up for any tiny nuisances you'll find with Sprint. Besides, you have 30 days to try out to see if you like it. If you feel it's not worth it to you, just leave and go back... no questions asked.

The EVO is kinda old news now. I would wait for the next big dual core android with AMOLED action. And the number of roms for EVO actually is not all that impressive. Most of them are regurgitations of others. There are a couple of good sense options (although I think rooted stock sense is best) and then there is cyanogen.... which is the best there is IMO... And now it has the extra G.... not that the 4G has been very useful to me.

I average 1.5 to 1.6 Mbps down and 600 to 800 Kbps up.
That ain't bad for 3G.

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Strange, he didn't say anything asking for opinions of Sprint.
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God forbid, right?
- My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.

I'm in San Diego particularly escondido. are my going to get 4g or not ??? I looked and couldn't figure it out.
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matt2053 said:
I average 1.5 to 1.6 Mbps down and 600 to 800 Kbps up.
That ain't bad for 3G.
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Yep me too. Occasionally it will be really slow but that only lasts for minutes.
@OP- Answer to your original question- Yes, you can flash ROM after ROM but you need to wipe in between flashing. One of our awesome devs Calkulin made a script that formats everything completely that is an awesome tool to use before flashing. Makes for a good clean install. You can find it in his mods thread in the theme section.

HondaCop said:
God forbid, right?
- My name is HondaCop and I approve this message.
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Yes, god forbid people take the thread off topic.
He didn't ask for opinions.
He asked about ROM flashing.
God forbid people keep on topic.

Atrix coming to Sprint?

http://androidandme.com/2011/03/car...trix-and-xoom-headed-to-sprint-4g-next-month/
Monster hardware - pretty much the best there is on any platform, but locked down software...
If it comes with Sprint ID (AOSP-y + easily replaceable Launcher) I might be in.

Moto + locked bootloader = fail
Sent from my HTC EVO

who cares about the locked bootloader. The phone is amazing without the need to root it.

I switched over to the Atrix for while before swapping it for an Inspire. I still have an Evo as well and follow this thread to keep up with whats going on. But anyways from using the Atrix for about 2 weeks, I can tell you that it's not all what it's cracked out to be. It is somewhat a snappy device and yes it's dual core, but it only uses 1 core. The 2nd core is used when using webtop I believe. At least that's how I understood it when it was posted in the Atrix forums.
The build quality is nowhere near the Evo or the Inspire for that matter, however, it does feel good in the hands. It's very lightweight when compared to the Evo and the Inspire and it has like a cheap feeling to it.
The screen on the Atrix is very vivid...I think they call the screen qHD or something like that, but it's nice. The super lcd that the Inspire has is a lot better in my opinion...but that's just me.
The battery is where the Atrix excels. I was getting about 15 hours on one charge and that's without overclocking and roms. The Atrix has the best battery when it comes to Android.
The two main reasons I swapped my Atrix for a Inspire is the bootloader was locked and motoblur slows the phone down a lot. The new sense on the inspire is Boss! It's smooth as heck with no lag.
But to each their own. I for one will not be getting this device unless the bootloader is unlocked so that I can hopefully flash a rom that removes motoblur.

Eh I'd rather have the EVO 3d/dual core.
HTC>Moto/samsux

Obviously I do which is why it's a fail.....I only speak for myself but obviously other people care ad well.
Last-Chance said:
who cares about the locked bootloader. The phone is amazing without the need to root it.
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I wouldn't get it; you can't even install outside market apps without rooting it(it doesn't even have the option to uncheck unknown sources). Fail
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dirkyd3rk said:
I wouldn't get it; you can't even install outside market apps without rooting it(it doesn't even have the option to uncheck unknown sources). Fail
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I think that the inability to install outside apps is a Motorola problem but an ATT problem. The reason I say this is because the Inspire also lacked the ability to install outside apps. That was before I rooted it. Which by the way, just like the Inspire, if you root the Atrix you can install outside apps as well.

Last-Chance said:
who cares about the locked bootloader. The phone is amazing without the need to root it.
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Have fun with that if this supposed Sprint version runs Blur. Androidcentral just reviewed the AT&T version and talked about how blur duplicated a bunch of their contacts and generally was a pain in the ass.

i won't buy a phone that has the bootloader locked tighter than a virgin on prom night.

fixxxer2008 said:
i won't buy a phone that has the bootloader locked tighter than a virgin on prom night.
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In high school I went to 5 diff proms with 5 diff chicks; only got laid on 1 of them :-( lol
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dirkyd3rk said:
In high school I went to 5 diff proms with 5 diff chicks; only got laid on 1 of them :-( lol
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Funny as hell....lol....you got me cracking up here at work

fixxxer2008 said:
i won't buy a phone that has the bootloader locked tighter than a virgin on prom night.
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I agree. It's a nice phone and works well with the laptop dock(at least from what i saw at a local AT&T display) but like plmiller says, it just feels cheap. Almost like the plastic is lesser quality and all the screws aren't tightened down.

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who cares about the locked bootloader. The phone is amazing without the need to root it.
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Locked boot loader = lucky to get 2.3 while new cm gives my evo icecream.
Swyped from my pants, I'll let you figure out how.

I can't get excited about a phone with a locked bootloader no matter how cool it is.

OgremustCrush said:
Have fun with that if this supposed Sprint version runs Blur. Androidcentral just reviewed the AT&T version and talked about how blur duplicated a bunch of their contacts and generally was a pain in the ass.
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or i can just install launcher pro....

Last-Chance said:
or i can just install launcher pro....
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Launcherpro doesn't eliminate blur... there's more to it than a launcher and widgets.

Rippley05 said:
Launcherpro doesn't eliminate blur... there's more to it than a launcher and widgets.
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the blur interface sucks as much as touchwiz.

fixxxer2008 said:
the blur interface sucks as much as touchwiz.
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Jesez, that is prolly the most harsh android insult out there. Touchwiz looks like it was made with crayons, complete with lockscreen that includes placing a freakin puzzle piece.. yuck

Rippley05 said:
Jesez, that is prolly the most harsh android insult out there. Touchwiz looks like it was made with crayons, complete with lockscreen that includes placing a freakin puzzle piece.. yuck
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meh... i only use launcherpro now.

Buying an EVO--Seeking Advice

Hey,
I have a samsung epic right now, and I'm interested in buying this evo someone offered to me. I would only be interested, however, if this phone was able to be rooted. How can I check if it is possible or not?
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Art2Fly said:
Hey,
I have a samsung epic right now, and I'm interested in buying this evo someone offered to me. I would only be interested, however, if this phone was able to be rooted. How can I check if it is possible or not?
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If its running android 2.3.3 and when you load into the bootloader it says "s-on" next to the radio version then its not rootable yet.

Thanks man, really appreciate it.
Also, if it wasnt able to be rooted, I read on the news that HTC was going to release a universal unlocker for the newer phones, will they also release one for the EVO?

Art2Fly said:
Thanks man, really appreciate it.
Also, if it wasnt able to be rooted, I read on the news that HTC was going to release a universal unlocker for the newer phones, will they also release one for the EVO?
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The general consensus is that they will not be unlocking older phones so as to encourage consumers to buy the newer ones.
EDIT: There is always of course the possibility that an independent developer will find an exploit and give us the ability to gain root access to our phones. Some devs are known to be working on this now. There's no guarantee of course, but there is hope for those of us who were feeling hopeless.

OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?

Art2Fly said:
OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?
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My wife is using Mikg, and her evo runs awesome. Can't wait to root mine...
Sent from my unrooted OG Evo....

Art2Fly said:
OK, so the phone has android 2.2, so I automatically assume it can be rooted. Now, can someone recommend me a good rom? I know about cm7 and miui, but what do the devs here have to offer?
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I really liked Deck's ROM; lightweight, few issues; great battery life when combined with Tiamat 3.3.7. It's basically CM7 with a lot of the extra clutter (language packs, etc) removed. It looks and acts almost exactly like Android on the Nexus S.
That was my daily driver. I also really liked playing with Synergy; it's feature-packed and has a lot of bells and whistles, and is a fun toy. I didn't like it for daily use, though. I am really into the KISS philosophy when it comes to my smartphone.

And what about kernels? Is there a good choice of kernels to sift through, or for the most part do the roms already come with the best kernel for the job..?

Art2Fly said:
And what about kernels? Is there a good choice of kernels to sift through, or for the most part do the roms already come with the best kernel for the job..?
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Do alot of reading in the development thread. There is plenty to learn about.
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Alright, I'm doing some thinking on whether to do this or not.. .Should I trade my epic 4g for an evo or not?

Bump
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Art2Fly said:
Alright, I'm doing some thinking on whether to do this or not.. .Should I trade my epic 4g for an evo or not?
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Well that's a question that is dependent on a few things:
Do you prefer physical or virtual keyboards?
Is the loss of a nicer screen worth a bigger screen?
The Epic could be a great phone if it had the developer support that the Evo had/has.
They don't even have an AOSP ROM.

YES, trade, then load synergy rls1, then freedom kernel, for root use unrevoked,
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Yeah, I could get by without a keyboard, but i'm just iffy

Art2Fly said:
Yeah, I could get by without a keyboard, but i'm just iffy
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My personal opinion is that developer support is what makes the phone.
The Epic has a better core for performance and for battery.
If I recall correctly the GPU is better too.
The screen is nicer.
The keyboard sucks [because I hate physical keyboards]
But the developer support, comparative to the Evo, is nil.
Now, there have been signs of an increase in support but with the SGS2 coming it's hard to say how much will come to the Epic itself.

I actually just came from an epic to the evo since mine was stolen (which really sucked I loved that phone) but with the evo I've never looked back. I really liked the physical keyboard since I'm not a fan of soft keyboards but swype and mods alongside a much larger screen make up for it. Speaking of the screen, its no super amoled but its definitely one of the nicest I've used and and the phone overall is just beautiful. Battery is about the same for both in my experience. But like others have said the evo has MUCH better developer support. I remember I was using frozen syndicate Rom 1.2 before my epic was stolen ( back in end of may/ beginning of June) and they still didn't update I believe. Plus Samsung still hasn't released gingerbread for it and its being discontinued October I think. So all in all you should trade for the evo, definitely much better software support especially for a phone reaching its EOL, not to mention hardware (i.e. cases) Plus sense is just great
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Ive had both phones, I had the epic then i traded it for my evo<3 which i love so much. I dont regret trading it at all. Personally, i like the evo more it is greater over all

is it possible to run tmobile rom on verizon lg g2?

Would this even be possible?

It's not but why would you want to do that in the first place?

It would have to be ported to work with vzw model.
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Why do people ask these dumb questions? Why would you want to use another variant's ROM and then later cry about soft bricking your phone. Its things like this where people end up crying for help about soft bricking their phone.

ericdabbs said:
Why do people ask these dumb questions? Why would you want to use another variant's ROM and then later cry about soft bricking your phone. Its things like this where people end up crying for help about soft bricking their phone.
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Just a q, chill. I am running malladus rom on my phone fine... Just don't like the signal bar with the r... That's all. If u don't have anything nice to say... Don't say anything... Got the phone really cheap from my friend on verizon... Using it on T-Mobile just fine.

duyl27 said:
Just a q, chill. I am running malladus rom on my phone fine... Just don't like the signal bar with the r... That's all. If u don't have anything nice to say... Don't say anything... Got the phone really cheap from my friend on verizon... Using it on T-Mobile just fine.
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Good score. How's the data? I heard hspa+ is max on Vzw variants. Is this true?

PeartFan40 said:
Good score. How's the data? I heard hspa+ is max on Vzw variants. Is this true?
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does the job just fine =) i haven't really done a benchmark on the speed, but it gets my data faster than my gf iphone... lol