AOSP-Support: possible? useful? buggy due to Samsung? - Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi prospective Note 3 owners,
Many Samsung customers and I had bad experience with the Galaxy S3 concern to updates and driver support (exynos one). Since I am a big fan of AOSP, I would be very interested to know how it looks this time or will look like. Moreover, how useful will it be on a device with pen and many android adjustments for it. I really hate touchwiz design, the darkblue and greenish interface. I think, it would be a more coherent feeling, if Samsung would have used holo design.
The question is, if cyanogenmod supports the device, will it get less problems due to the snapdragon 800 and qualcomm driver support? What about the camera and its image stabilizer?
I know it's a speculative question, so please no **** storm

Can't say about official cm / aospa / aokp builds but the fate of exynos is same as of s3/s4 unless.... Sammy follows what it promised to devs...
sent from the state marijuanated muffins are NOT illegal !

Man I really hope development is possible on this thing, moreover the VZW version. I preordered the device so I guess I have 30 days to decide.... C'mon devs, work your magic!!

come on Samsung release workable sources of everything without that people cant work their magic
Sent from my GT-N7000 using Tapatalk 2

With Knox on these phones the freaking bootloader is going to be locked may just wait for
Nexus 5 but want note 3 ..
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2

Epix4G said:
With Knox on these phones the freaking bootloader is going to be locked may just wait for
Nexus 5 but want note 3 ..
Sent from my SPH-L900 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The bootloader will get unlocked just like it has every other time...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app

Unhived__Mind said:
The bootloader will get unlocked just like it has every other time...
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The problem is the Knox Warranty status that can't be reset=no warranty in case you will need it
GT-N7105 via Tapatalk 2

I think the a time comes in a lifetime when... We the community stop DEPENDING!.........love the device. Root/ unlocking is so..2010 ...if it " comes it comes."
I decided I want this phone that's it.!
But ........................root is nice.

I'm deciding between the LG G2 and the N3 at the moment and I will not buy a phone that cannot properly run AOSP ROMs (like my I9300 S3 which has horrible battery life and flaky camera unless I use a TWiz ROM - and then I get lag, and **** RAM management/multitasking).
I'm presuming that the Snapdragon 800 version of the N3 will get lots of dev support and reliable AOSP ROMs?
This locked bootloader/KNOX business is a bit concerning though, I ain't buying anything with a locked bootloader, full stop.
I really like the look of the G2 and I'm unsure whether N3 is going to be too big for me - but it's hard to ignore that the N3 is a beast, and now there's a phone with 3GB of RAM I don't think I can buy anything less future-proof than that.

Related

SGS3 not to get Note 2 features

Hi all,
Just received notification from Samsung that the SGS3 will NOT be getting any features like the Note 2 has ie. Multi Window, Popup Note or Idea sketch...Shame as they look awesome hope someone can PORT the apps or the Note 2 ROM
Well, I think it shouldn't be that hard to port a Note 2-ROM to the SGS 3, as they're based on nearly the same specs... Would be nice to see some of those features in a custom ROM though
There are already ROMs with the Note 2 gallery and camera, for example.
henrybravo said:
There are already ROMs with the Note 2 gallery and camera, for example.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
indeed but they are problematic for some people, i'd much prefer to see a full ROM port which cant be that difficult as hardware is pretty much identical, although there could be ram issues.
None of features sound that ground breaking. I will stick to the stock ROM + root. Thanks.
Sent from Samsung Galaxy S3
bunglebp said:
Hi all,
Just received notification from Samsung that the SGS3 will NOT be getting any features like the Note 2 has ie. Multi Window, Popup Note or Idea sketch...Shame as they look awesome hope someone can PORT the apps or the Note 2 ROM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Samsung contacted you personally to tell you this?
Can i get in on that action please?
Well this is obvious they have to make it different you can't expect to get every new feature that they release in they're new flagships
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
What exactly is it that you want to get? The note has a separate sensor on the screen for he stylus so you would get any short cuts or quick notes.
Anything else software related should be available to port.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda premium
kdskamal said:
None of features sound that ground breaking. I will stick to the stock ROM + root. Thanks.
Sent from Samsung Galaxy S3
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Who asked you?
bunglebp said:
Hi all,
Just received notification from Samsung that the SGS3 will NOT be getting any features like the Note 2 has ie. Multi Window, Popup Note or Idea sketch...Shame as they look awesome hope someone can PORT the apps or the Note 2 ROM
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sooner or later we will all switch to CyanogenMod when Samsung stops updating our phones and newer Android versions released.
When you feature gets ported people say it's awesome, when it dosent people say it's not that good. :banghead:
《swagged from aokp》
tanjiajun_34 said:
Sooner or later we will all switch to CyanogenMod when Samsung stops updating our phones and newer Android versions released.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
and at some point in the future we'll have hoverboards and spangly clothing, so what...
Lol, why would they give you the Note's features on an S3? what's the point of a note then? xD
Cmon, you bought a phone and agreed to have what it had at that point of time, heck samsung doesn't even have to update it (the box had 4.0.4 and you agreed to that.
So be happy and stop complaining.
lets not question the validity of peoples need / want for these features, that's just stupid.
I also want Note 2 features and I have a solution...
I am selling my GS3 and getting Note 2 today
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S III using xda premium
Skander1998 said:
Lol, why would they give you the Note's features on an S3? what's the point of a note then? xD
Cmon, you bought a phone and agreed to have what it had at that point of time, heck samsung doesn't even have to update it (the box had 4.0.4 and you agreed to that.
So be happy and stop complaining.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What the hell are you doing in this forum then? True curiosity.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
I heard we may be getting it as an ota after jb has rolled out worldwide. It will likely come with the lte and ram upgrade.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using xda app-developers app
I seem to have this feeling that we're not getting these features due to the lack of RAM (1GB vs 2GB).
IMHO Samsung should have really put 2GB into the GT-I9300...
Hopefully later revisions of the GT-I9300 will have 2GB of RAM. Fat chance but one can wish.
ryanswj said:
I seem to have this feeling that we're not getting these features due to the lack of RAM (1GB vs 2GB).
IMHO Samsung should have really put 2GB into the GT-I9300...
Hopefully later revisions of the GT-I9300 will have 2GB of RAM. Fat chance but one can wish.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There are already version with 2gb ram n quadcore with Lte
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
da.trute said:
and at some point in the future we'll have hoverboards and spangly clothing, so what...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well that depends on how soon it is. Like imagine iPhone 6 is coming out tmr. Will you buy the iPhone 5 now?
Samsung will normally just update 2 Android versions and the update is gone. That is about a year left for Key Lime Pie update I guess. So in the end I really don't mind not having Note 2 features. Plus I don't trust Samsung software features. Samsung is a hardware not a software company.

Nexus 4 vs Galaxy s3

Hey guys, some of you know me for my reviews and I decided to get a new phone. The LG nexus 4.
I wanted to show you a side by side comparison of the phones in case you are thinking of changing devices . Both are great but different
The s3 is not stock ..but whos is ? lol
enjoy
http://youtu.be/yVnT-s5gzlA
Nice review I think the gs3 is better ie the i9305 but good job
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Yep. My version (tmo) is the weakest of them all .
But my cousin has the international and honestly the n4 still feels a little superior
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
I prefer the S III myself too. Pity the Nexus series is crippled all the time.
no multiview, smart stay, direct call ? well thanks , no nexus for me . Im already running a nexus4 like setup as my secondary rom
Without a memory card slot and a removable battery I will always pick S3 without any question not to mention Nexus 4 is LG.
Now why can't google for once release a nexus with a memory card slot :/ and hopefully next nexus will be released by Sony
ThilinaC said:
Without a memory card slot and a removable battery I will always pick S3 without any question not to mention Nexus 4 is LG.
Now why can't google for once release a nexus with a memory card slot :/ and hopefully next nexus will be released by Sony
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It may happen. Looks like Google make rotation every time release new Nexus.
Sony the last one who has not yet made Nexus phone.
ThilinaC said:
Without a memory card slot and a removable battery I will always pick S3 without any question not to mention Nexus 4 is LG.
Now why can't google for once release a nexus with a memory card slot :/ and hopefully next nexus will be released by Sony
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Because they want you to use their cloud storage and a fixed battery keeps the unit cost down. It's amazing that they've managed to produce the hardware for the price, but I still chose the S3 as I couldn't live with being tethered to a wall plug for 4 hours a day.
Catching myself on flashing Cyanogen after every samsung rom release - it's just clean and light comparing to the last one , i then thought, if i love pure G more than a blup-blup cartoonish mothefuker even with cool milti window which i used 4-5 times to put iScumbags in depression and smart rotation which is a super must feature. However , i just enjoy a lot more when using aosp , eventhough S3 is a great device
Отправлено с моего GT-I9300 через Tapatalk
bala_gamer said:
no multiview, smart stay, direct call ? well thanks , no nexus for me . Im already running a nexus4 like setup as my secondary rom
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Pure Jb? Im looking for a ROM with pure Jb. Thanks.
Enviado do meu Gradiente CP 75
what rom is he using on his s3?
j0sefuz said:
what rom is he using on his s3?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Looks like he's using Paranoid Android, because of the split screen email.
Close run contest at this point, but next year when the S4 comes out and Sammy can't be bothered updating the S3 to later versions of android anymore, the N4 will suddenly seem far more appealing.
The fact Samsung will not release usable hals and related sources then a fully working Aosp alternative isn't going to be an option either.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
eseregin said:
It may happen. Looks like Google make rotation every time release new Nexus.
Sony the last one who has not yet made Nexus phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yep, well the rumors where that the nexus family was gonna become a line, so there were gonna be different nexus devices by different makers at the same time
I honestly dont think that the nexus will ever have an SD slot..why? dont even ask me cause it doesnt make sense, but most likely because its was originally supposed to be a developer phone? who knows..but they need to start listening to us the users
My thing is..when I hear "nexus" I think of the cream of the cream, top of the line stuff on it..they shouldnt cheap out on parts nor design..and somehow they just keep doing that over and over again
Poshdaz said:
Close run contest at this point, but next year when the S4 comes out and Sammy can't be bothered updating the S3 to later versions of android anymore, the N4 will suddenly seem far more appealing.
The fact Samsung will not release usable hals and related sources then a fully working Aosp alternative isn't going to be an option either.
Sent from my GT-I9300 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
sammy used to be better but sadly you are correct..they will release the s4 and the s3 quickly will be left behind
jhericurls said:
Looks like he's using Paranoid Android, because of the split screen email.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Correct. the rom im running is the Latest Paranoid android. An outstanding rom I may say
wolvie_rs said:
Pure Jb? Im looking for a ROM with pure Jb. Thanks.
Enviado do meu Gradiente CP 75
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Try paranoid android it feels as pure as possible and very smooth as well
So is the theme in this thread that the SGS3 is the better phone than the nexus 4?
I have been mulling this over and over in my head. I have an update in may and I don't know if I should sell my SGS3 now and get the nexus 4 then decide in may if I want to jump to SGS4 or keep my SGS3 till may and swap then ???
sent from my Nexus 7 while my SGS3 rests!
Stay with the s3 if you are happy with it.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
rault18 said:
Stay with the s3 if you are happy with it.
Sent from my SGH-T999 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That's where I was leaning especially with an upgrade around the corner I can always make that decision then. I was just wondering over here if many made the swap from SGS3 and if they regret it or are OK?
sent from my Nexus 7 while my SGS3 rests!

Would "Google edition" S4 help us?

EDIT: Well its here. So what do you all think. It comes with at&t bands so we should have access to a lot of important aosp info.
OLD: So u know nothing is confirmed as of yet, and I know that it seems the thing is spring t-mo bands, but wouldn't this device being available be a major win for us as well? I'm figuring most of the docentation would be identical to ours, so we'd have full access to the phones resources, and all of us could just merge proprietary info from our respective carriers into ROMs and the like. Am I off on this or would this be great news, even for those of us without the major funds to buy the "google" version.
Just trying to learn and going for a discussion . Any insight would be associated.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
No one wants to chime in on this?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 2
Not a dev so I can't say for sure but I would think that there would be some benefit for AOSP based ROMs, at least for models that share the same chipset as the "Google Edition" though if there is no new source code released it would mean you'd need to rip binaries from the stock image of the new device to benefit and many devs don't want to go there.
If it turns out that Google (not Samsung) is doing the development work for the device, that it's more like a non-gimped nexus, it could be HUGE but that's not the case for most unskinned ROMs.
If this does happen...I think it would be more like the international version...
Although, either way this would hopefully give us code/drivers for new sensors such as the ir and others...allowing us to possibly bring support for those sensors to aosp...maybe, I'm no dev my self but that what I believe
Either way....I'm very skeptical about this piece of news and think its gonna turn out false...why would Samsung release a Google edition? And if they wanted to release an aosp version why would they do so through Google event? Knowing Samsung they would have their own event
IDK the whole thing seemed to pop up out of no where...and the pieces aren't really fitting in
Sent from my SGH-I997 using Tapatalk 2
mg2195 said:
If this does happen...I think it would be more like the international version...
Although, either way this would hopefully give us code/drivers for new sensors such as the ir and others...allowing us to possibly bring support for those sensors to aosp...maybe, I'm no dev my self but that what I believe
Either way....I'm very skeptical about this piece of news and think its gonna turn out false...why would Samsung release a Google edition? And if they wanted to release an aosp version why would they do so through Google event? Knowing Samsung they would have their own event
IDK the whole thing seemed to pop up out of no where...and the pieces aren't really fitting in
Sent from my SGH-I997 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, its here!! I really hope our bootloader unlock gives us access to some of the great features the google edition will provide!! Im mostly curious about the IR Blaster. Id love to be able to keep my remote control without all the samsung bloat.
Anyone else excited about this?
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
pokedroid said:
Well, its here!! I really hope our bootloader unlock gives us access to some of the great features the google edition will provide!! Im mostly curious about the IR Blaster. Id love to be able to keep my remote control without all the samsung bloat.
Anyone else excited about this?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes I am, assuming that the Google model uses Snapdragon chipset and not the Exynos it means that we could flash the Google Edition ROM on our phones and that potentially there will be a lot better support for the hardware for AOSP based custom ROMs.
raitchison said:
Yes I am, assuming that the Google model uses Snapdragon chipset and not the Exynos it means that we could flash the Google Edition ROM on our phones and that potentially there will be a lot better support for the hardware for AOSP based custom ROMs.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Man this would be really great news. Im going to stick to your school of thought until told otherwise
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
Noob alert : what does this mean? A phone without all the bloat ? Different hardware features?
Sent via Tapatalk
Rox628 said:
Noob alert : what does this mean? A phone without all the bloat ? Different hardware features?
Sent via Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bloatware is OEM and Carrier installed apps that takes up precious memory and you can't delete.. OEM= Samsung
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
Intellectua1 said:
Bloatware is OEM and Carrier installed apps that takes up precious memory and you can't delete.. OEM= Samsung
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I don't think this phone will come with Bloatware. If that were true, my Nexus 10 would've came pre installed with a bunch of Samsung software.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium
I understand the development communities interest in this phone. I love flashing and enjoying, with my beer contributions, the dev's hard work.
I was excited and planned on waiting for more news on this phone before deciding which phone I am soon going to buy.
But, after I/O today and being told 16gb only, I think Google/Samsung failed again. For me, a 16gb Flagship phone is unacceptable. I have a One S and find it hard not to run out of memory and I don't game.
Sad news today for some of us. Hopefully the memory size will change before June 26th. But, I doubt it.
Underworld79 said:
I don't think this phone will come with Bloatware. If that were true, my Nexus 10 would've came pre installed with a bunch of Samsung software.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well it definitely wont have bloat, as a "pure nexus experience" has been confirmed. I think the previous poster say providing clarification and/or enlightening the self-proclaimed "noob" who asked about it earlier.
Man I'm not even concerned about the bootloader u lock anymore.. I'd rather wait til the Google edition drops anyway, we're talking near-immediate and near-flawless cm/aokp/pa support.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
I wonder how much of that 16gb will be usable without the bloat though. The stock TW ROM is immense. AOSP is going to be much lighter, giving you more of your 16 gigs.
This is great news for anybody with an S4. The devs are going to have a field day with an AOSP ROM designed for this phone, and we will all profit.
When Dans glorious unlock is released, and the Google edition is released, it will completely change this device for the better for anyone willing to take the romming plunge.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk 2
My rooted One S with 16gb internal has 9.93 available. That's coming with Sense as opposed to TW.
Sent from my One S using Tapatalk 2

[Q] Development AOSP for N9005

Hi guys, I have a question for you.
I need to change device and I'm undecided whether to purchase the Note 3 ​​(Snapdragon) or the Nexus 5.
I am inclined to buy the Note 3​​, but I do not know if it will be supported by the community for a long time,
and especially if the "AOSP developers" will have problems with it.
Getting to the point: do you think that developers will have serious problems and bugs
(as there were in the previous galaxy powered by Exynos)
or the development of AOSP for Note 3 (Snapdragon) will be as smooth as silk, as for the Nexus devices?
development for snapdragon will be simpler compared to exynos version as what i've witness in Galaxy S4 scenario
zekurosu said:
development for snapdragon will be simpler compared to exynos version as what i've witness in Galaxy S4 scenario
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Simpler, but much more difficult than nexus?
UP Someone else?
Pretty sure the Nexus line will always be the easiest.
I think if the lower screen size doesn't bother you, then the nexus 5 is probably the way to go. I was originally thinking about the note 3 or the nexus 5 but decided to go against the latter (I like to watch alot of youtube and the bigger screen size was perfect for a media consumer). But if your looking at it with development in mind, the nexus 5 just has more perks than the note 3
Sent from my SM-N.9005 using xda app-developers app
boss. said:
I think if the screen size doesn't bother you, then the nexus 5 is probably the way to go. I was originally thinking about the note 3 or the nexus 5 but decided to go against the latter (I like to watch alot of youtube and the bigger screen size was perfect for a media consumer). But if your looking at it with development in mind, the nexus 5 just has more perks than the note 3
Sent from my SM-N.9005 using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I like the screen size and the aosp.. something like a Note 3 Google edition ahah
that's the problem
Can KNOX be a problem for developers AOSP?
Does anyone know if the CyanogenMod is available for this device?
There are problems in the development of the latter?
(We're talking about the variant with Snapdragon)
AOSP and knox won't be a problem as long as you don't care about 0x1 on Knox warranty
Sent from my SM-N9005 using xda app-developers app
I blame it on timing alone. Why would the developers try to compile a jelly bean ROM when they know that kit kat was going to be released soon.
Sent from my SM-N900T using Tapatalk
Cyanogenmod is in the making, it's not ready for nightlies just yet.
Sent from my SM-N9005 using Tapatalk 2
Ok! So this is the problem!
I hope that if I were to buy a N9005, I will not have problems in turning it into "Google Edition" without
the annoying problems (like the little support to developers) who presented with other Samsung devices.

Are we getting Android 5.0? Rumors, links, etc..

After only a day from the official presentation from Google, there are already rumors tnat note 2 will get the Android 5.0, or so called Android L.
This is the first link i came across that it has info about that:
http://www.techdroider.com/2014/06/nominated-devices-that-are-getting.html?m=1
Please comment and share thoughts about the update.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk
I think we will get cm, aokp based roms but i really doubt about official samsung update. You should trust samsung with this
For me no doubt, that we will get it cause N2 is so popular even after nearly 2 years and Samsung will produce and sell this device surely one more year :good:
I really doubt of an official samsung update.... but let's hope....
Honestly I'd prefere a kernel update on the kitkat release.... and some open sourcing of the exynos ****.... :crying::crying:
Suppose we could hope? Even for KK 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 ota soon?
No we won't get it. It's not the matter of popularity of the device or anything. It's that each manufacturer must provide at least 18 months of support or 3 major updates. We got ourselves 4.1.2, 4.3 and 4.4.2. So yeah, the support for the device is over. Samsung has stop support for S3, so it's our turn now
ravearamashi said:
No we won't get it. It's not the matter of popularity of the device or anything. It's that each manufacturer must provide at least 18 months of support or 3 major updates. We got ourselves 4.1.2, 4.3 and 4.4.2. So yeah, the support for the device is over. Samsung has stop support for S3, so it's our turn now
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What he said.
Note 3 users will be lucky to see it anytime soon, this is Samsung after all.....
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
That sucks koz from the vids ive seen on youtube, 5.0 looks great.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Free mobile app
4.4.4 seems to be arriving on numerous tablets and phones. Great for some.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Free mobile app
we are lucky enough to get kitkat.
I am pessimistic about Samsung coding and releasing another update for such an old phone. Even though its pretty powerful and popular .
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk
Yeah I'm sure that we'll get it via Omni, CM, aosp roms, but I'll miss the tw.
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk
i apologize if i'm off topic
i have htc desire HD and with the help and roms of this site i like my phone again
I found Note II in a special price (the 4G edition) and i wanna ask if it is the right decision to purchase it or to go for the samsung S4
I know the differences between this two phones. I just don't want to buy a phone near its end of life
Thank you
Kostas
My S4 i9506 still didnt get KK and you here asking for android L? You should be grateful that samsung remembered it has a device called note 2
Samsung? forget it...
CM or aosp worth looking forward to
I wonder when CM AOSP or OMNI release come since 4.4 I am using mostly aosp based roms . and they are taking one more step ahead every day. I didnt miss tw
Well landing of 4.4 has been a major achievement post all the rubble created.
5.0 will definitely not be delivered to Note 2.
How else will you be motivated to buy those expensive plastic devices
Sent from my GT-N7100 using XDA Free mobile app
Can anyone tell me when can we expect aosp based Android L for our n7100 device. Eagerly waiting.
mazahir87 said:
Can anyone tell me when can we expect aosp based Android L for our n7100 device. Eagerly waiting.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not before it's official release which will be in a few months (hopefully).
Having 4.4.2 kernel sources may allow future 5.x AOSP builds for N710x
Sent from my GT-N7100 using Tapatalk

Categories

Resources