[Q] Get LG G2 and stay on VZW Unlimited or Nexus 5 and jump to T-Mobile unlimited - G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Since it's piety much assured the Nexus 5 will never be available on Verizon I was looking at getting the G2 to keep unlimited data and Verizon's awesome network, however looking at how the original Optimus G on ATT never got official CM releases I am now worried about getting it as I love using ROMs and being able to keep the most recent Android version on my phone. Now the Nexus 5 well be based on the G2 and obviously have the best Dev support of any phone, but that means leaving Verizon's network for T-Mobile, just wondering what all of you think.

bose301s said:
Since it's piety much assured the Nexus 5 will never be available on Verizon I was looking at getting the G2 to keep unlimited data and Verizon's awesome network, however looking at how the original Optimus G on ATT never got official CM releases I am now worried about getting it as I love using ROMs and being able to keep the most recent Android version on my phone. Now the Nexus 5 well be based on the G2 and obviously have the best Dev support of any phone, but that means leaving Verizon's network for T-Mobile, just wondering what all of you think.
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Impossible to answer until the nexus 5 is announced with price
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Impossible to answer until the nexus 5 is announced with price
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Willing to bet it'll be less than the off contract price of the G2, so set price aside, I'll pay whatever for either device, more concerned about network vs. development prospects.

I'm voting Verizon simply for the fact their coverage is just too good to ignore. I'd love to be on T-Mobile because it's hard to ignore how cheap it is to be on their network, but their coverage is just not good outside of cities. The frequency T-Mobile uses also has issues when it comes to reception within buildings. There are a lot of people who love the carrier, but even plenty of the loyal ones will say the signal isn't the greatest by any means.
If you don't plan on traveling and your city has good coverage, it's fine, but if you do travel, it's a more difficult decision. I hate the cost that comes with being on Verizon, but it's nice getting data in areas where ever other carrier fumbles. In fact, at the job I'm working part time at right now, I'm the only one who does not need to use the wifi there because I get great 3g reception.
Also, I think the G2 is going to have a better dev community than past LG phones. This is the first flagship LG Android phone to release on all carriers.

Guess there's not many opinions on this.

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Guess there's not many opinions on this.
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Ill second the opinion on VZWs network being too big to ignore.
I actually had a demo Tmo device for the last couple weeks and outdoors the coverage was great, but once inside a building it went to nothing. Just because of the frequency bands they use, so its not like its something fixable. AT&T/VZW own the lower bands, and lower freqs have better building penetration.
In my case, no matter how cheap it was, Tmo just wouldnt work for me.

I also average 5-7gb a month so no prepaid or other plan really has enough data for me other than T-Mobile.

I guess Aio is always an option with 7gb/month allowance and options for more but 8mbps cap kinda sucks.

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anyone planning on using Nexus on AT&T

I have a magic (from rogers, so it works on At&t 3g) but I really really wanna get on board with the Nexus.
I am in NJ so TMo says 3g coverage is good, but i am just skeptical.
plus i have a family plan on at&t, wife uses iphone, doubt i could talk her into giving it up...
anyone gonna use the nexus on at&t and go without 3g???
I will be replacing my iphone with the nexus tomorrow when the n1 arrives. Because of how awful 3g is in my area (live in seattle work in redmond) I have been using edge almost exclusively. Funnily enough, my dropped calls have ceased after the 3g=>edge move. Go figure
I plan to keep my iphone handy and see just how painful the n1 is without the ability to attempt 3g if I really want it or need it (maps come to mind and so does pandora though both have been acceptable on edge thus far).
Perhaps I can call ATT and have them remove 3g from my account saving me some money each month.
I'm going to try it out on AT&T to see if/(how much) I miss 3g. If I can't get along without it, I'll just switch to T-Mobile. I live in Dallas so both AT&T and T-Mobile have full coverage.
For me, the people I talk to the most are on ATT and it would cost me more to continue my phone habits on a different provider than to just stick with ATT. Moving back to T-Mobile is not an option at this point. I really do wish I had kept my G1 when I made that move
yeah, i was thinking the same thing, just try my non-3g life out and go from there.....at least i'm not alone!
like you said, i have a family / friends all on att, so i might cost more if i were on tmo now...
thakns for input, good luck to us!
I have a g1 & mytouch on at&t just unlocked it. i dont mind having 2G only cuz my battery life is increased and when i get home i have wifi so i just attach to it to get better speeds.. i plan on getting the nexus one when i have the money for it. i didnt know the rogers phones are at&T compatible. anyone wanna sell or trade devices? PM ME
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I hated having my iPhone on Tmobile, no 3G kinda killed the use of an iPhone, the call quality wasn't that great, and though it was handy, it was a bit annoying knowing that I had no 3G. I sold it for $370, used that money to buy a N1 :]
I have an xperia X1a.... and am probably going to buy a nexus.. I"m tired of people w/ cheap, crappy phones having way better internet speed than me.
BUT.. I will make sure that X10 really isn't tmo 3g compatible.
WHy won't the n1 get 3G- any idea when they might change that?
well, the n1 doesn't have the 850 mhz frequency that att runs there 3g on.
the n1 is coming to verizon in the spring and will have 3g......i honestly don't think n1 will ever get to att, especially since google is obviously battling with iphone.....
i really would love the n1, but i honestly don't know i could give up my magic with 3g on ATT......i was just downloading at 1600 kb/sec....pretty damn fast.
the 2g speed is only like 180 kb/sec.
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well, the n1 doesn't have the 850 mhz frequency that att runs there 3g on.
the n1 is coming to verizon in the spring and will have 3g......i honestly don't think n1 will ever get to att, especially since google is obviously battling with iphone.....
i really would love the n1, but i honestly don't know i could give up my magic with 3g on ATT......i was just downloading at 1600 kb/sec....pretty damn fast.
the 2g speed is only like 180 kb/sec.
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I was just downloading at over 4100kbps on T-mobile.
I just ordered my Nexus One Superphone. Im planning on selling my HTC Magic unlocked A6161 32A with Hero Sense UI.
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I was just downloading at over 4100kbps on T-mobile.
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wow! really?? OK....well, my decision is pretty easy then....bye bye ATT......
hello N1!
No AT&T 3G means no Nexus One for me. So my only hope now is that HTC releases their own branded version with Sense (which I would have wanted anyway) shortly after the hype blows over.
If the Acer A1 hits in the meantime, I'm going to get that I guess. No way in hell I'm switching to T-Mobile for any reason. They have zero coverage where I live and no roaming agreements with AT&T (I live in a Chicago suburb). But in areas where they do work, friends aren't getting 3G and 1/2 the time they aren't even getting EDGE!
Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc
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wow! really?? OK....well, my decision is pretty easy then....bye bye ATT......
hello N1!
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T-mo flipped the switch on their 7.2mbps 3G today. I'm sure it was planned to coincide with the N1 release, lol... anyway, T-mo is now the fastest GSM 3G in the U.S., right?
Edit: Just came across this article: http://www.engadget.com/2010/01/05/atandt-kicks-it-into-overdrive-rolls-out-7-2mbps-everywhere-bu/
Seems that AT&T now has a fire under its ass to follow suit. They too are speeding up their upgrade to 7.2mbps, but they won't have the backbone up to speed for a while apparently.
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Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc
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Winmo over Android? Really!?! For Microsoft's sake I hope you're right, but I think it's highly unlikely that WM7 will be enough to make Windows a plausible mobile platform. I've been in the wireless industry for a few years and Windows Mobile has, for just as long, been a last resort for anyone but the most diehard Windows fanatic(you?).
I do however agree that it's a win for those of us on T-Mobile. That make's five Android devices to choose from! And for the record I'll be picking up a Nexus One as soon as they start offering it with the employee discount!
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No AT&T 3G means no Nexus One for me. So my only hope now is that HTC releases their own branded version with Sense (which I would have wanted anyway) shortly after the hype blows over.
If the Acer A1 hits in the meantime, I'm going to get that I guess. No way in hell I'm switching to T-Mobile for any reason. They have zero coverage where I live and no roaming agreements with AT&T (I live in a Chicago suburb). But in areas where they do work, friends aren't getting 3G and 1/2 the time they aren't even getting EDGE!
Besides, I was only getting the AT&T version of the Nexus One to hold me over until Windows Mobile 7 drops. I have no problem waiting until Windows Mobile 7 and skipping Android altogether.
Personally, I think they screwed up. They gained very little from have Verizon offer it. Verizon customers who want a high end Android device *JUST* bought the Droid and will be getting Android 2.1 soon. If they made an AT&T compatible version, they'd have more potential for sales since AT&T has NO android devices so far and Canadian carriers can also take advantage.
For those on T-Mobile, looks like a good phone...
-Mc
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Seriously man... blame AT&T and Apple for their internal agreements. It's because of the iPhone that AT&T isn't allowed to bring in any products that would cannibalize sales of the iPhone. Once exclusivity expires... Android devices will storm AT&T as well.
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Seriously man... blame AT&T and Apple for their internal agreements. It's because of the iPhone that AT&T isn't allowed to bring in any products that would cannibalize sales of the iPhone. Once exclusivity expires... Android devices will storm AT&T as well.
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Should I switch from tmobile to att for atrix?

Hi I currently have the new g2x from tmobile and will probably be returning it today.(too many issues). The only other phone I want is the atrix so I'm thinking of canceling my tmo service and buying the atrix. Do you guys think it is worth it. I'll be paying about $10 more a month. How does every one like the atrix and att. Or maybe a comparison between att and tmo if someone has had both.
Thank you.
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Also I had read that the boot loader is unlocked now us this true and if so how are the custom roms and will we be seeing some oc kernels chiming out?
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Get it Unlocked
I'm with Tmobile now and using the Atrix unlocked. Try to go down that route if you have the resources to buy it outright. Otherwise, you cannot go wrong with the Atrix. The upcoming gingerbread update in the summer is only going to make it better. They've already ironed out most of the issues of early adopters with the new 4.1.83 update. The full power of this phone is yet to be unleashed.
i have an atrix on tmobile and i dont think its worth it honestly the phone has a lot of issues this is my second one from motorola and this one doesnt freeze as much but there is def a manufacturing defect there is a small section of my screen that doesnt work on either phone i had and im just living with it now becuz i dont want to send it in again and wait two weeks because it has been out getting fixed longer than i have had it I was thinking of trading mine for a g2x
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Also I had read that the boot loader is unlocked now us this true and if so how are the custom roms and will we be seeing some oc kernels chiming out?
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Bootloader is still locked. You can root and "mod" it, but currently the bootloader is still locked down...
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Also T-Mo has the better network. I'm sure you get better D/L speeds over there...
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Thanks for the replies that was fast. Tmobile kinda sucks where I'm at. I work on an island where I get pretty spotty service and I live 200 feet from a cell tower where I get great reception but by supposed 4g speeds are 800k max which its pretty lame.
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Also do you think we will ever see an unlocked bootloader?
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Considering this is Motorola, no. Wait for the Galaxy S2.
I don't really like samsung phones. And I actually like motoblur. I also really likethe idea of the 2 docks. I saw that people have ubuntu running on these phones does that work with the docks? I also dint have the cash to buy it out right.
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i have an atrix on tmobile and i dont think its worth it honestly the phone has a lot of issues this is my second one from motorola and this one doesnt freeze as much but there is def a manufacturing defect there is a small section of my screen that doesnt work on either phone i had and im just living with it now becuz i dont want to send it in again and wait two weeks because it has been out getting fixed longer than i have had it I was thinking of trading mine for a g2x
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What a run on sentence, not a single period in that whole statement.
But on topic,
If you can return the phone and terminate service with no cost, then do it. But if you are to far into your contract and you are facing a termination fee, I would try to find a Atrix on craigslist or a trade and sell cell phone store. Yes the bootloader is locked, but there is people hard at work trying to find a solution. Yes you could wait for the Samsung Galaxy S2, but there is no guarantee it will be a better phone.
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I'm with Tmobile now and using the Atrix unlocked.
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Isn't the radio hardware in the Atrix set up for AT&T frequencies, thus limiting data connection to 2G (Edge) speeds when used on T-Mobile?
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Isn't the radio hardware in the Atrix set up for AT&T frequencies, thus limiting data connection to 2G (Edge) speeds when used on T-Mobile?
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I was also wondering this. And I will have to pay an early cancellation fee but with the g2x I got a partial upgrade and ended up paying $400 with a $50 rebate. it will cost me $200 to cancel service and,$99 for the atrix through radioshack.But the g2x is not great too many bugs and tons of backlight bleed not worth the $350 I payed with a contract extension.
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OP, I'd say give it a try. Do you know of anyone who has AT&T where you live/work? I know every carrier is different in every location, so it may be worth it to give AT&T a try. I personally love the Atrix and have been with AT&T since they were Cingular. I know for my fiance, when she had T-Mobile, speeds were good right next to a tower, but it seemed like every time we traveled, she was roaming on AT&T Edge. This was true for where her parents live and where my parents live, too. At those locations, I was on AT&T 3G and speeds were great. So for us, AT&T has good 3G in more places than T-Mobile. But, everyone's mileage may vary. What is good for one person with regards to phone/network may not be good for the next person.
EDIT: oh, and you have a trial period with AT&T. If you aren't satisfied, return the Atrix and AT&T service and stick with what works for you.
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OP, I'd say give it a try. Do you know of anyone who has AT&T where you live/work? I know every carrier is different in every location, so it may be worth it to give AT&T a try. I personally love the Atrix and have been with AT&T since they were Cingular. I know for my fiance, when she had T-Mobile, speeds were good right next to a tower, but it seemed like every time we traveled, she was roaming on AT&T Edge. This was true for where her parents live and where my parents live, too. At those locations, I was on AT&T 3G and speeds were great. So for us, AT&T has good 3G in more places than T-Mobile. But, everyone's mileage may vary. What is good for one person with regards to phone/network may not be good for the next person.
EDIT: oh, and you have a trial period with AT&T. If you aren't satisfied, return the Atrix and AT&T service and stick with what works for you.
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I do not know anyone with att but I think I'm gong to return this phone tonight and pick up an atrix and try out att. Hoping its better than tmobile here.
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i have no complaints about att, go for it. i would definitely make sure your own house is not an att dead zone though. dont forget to apply employer discounts for your monthly bill.
tmobile on the other hand, lots of problems.
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i have no complaints about att, go for it. i would definitely make sure your own house is not an att dead zone though. dont forget to apply employer discounts for your monthly bill.
tmobile on the other hand, lots of problems.
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I literally live 200 ft from a tower that seems to have every carrier up there. Everyone that comes to my house has full service. And e what kind of employer discounts are you taking about? I an self employed.
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I left Tmo on 04/10/11 for ATT. So far, so good. Love the Atrix since .83. Atrix is a suitable phone if you want android. iPhone is fine too. I'm still within the 30 grace period and I'm deciding to go with ATT for my mobile carrier.
My mom loves the the free mobile to mobile (no minutes used regardless of carrier).
I'm converting and I have no qualms. Haven't had any dropped calls (yet). I'd say go for ATT.
keep your g2x stay with tmo. its basically the same phone just a lg body instead of motorola. my buddy has the g2x. plus by next year all the networks tmo and att have will be shared and there will be new phones out. get your handset replaced if your having issues it may be hardware lemon. the atrix has its issues too no phone is without issues. youd just be trading one tegra based device for another and getting a slower network that costs more
The problem is the screen bleed on the g2x I've looked at several devices and they all have it. And our makes the screen look like crap. plus I've been missing way too many calls at work because bad reception. And I really want a tegra 2 over the other dual core processors.
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Can't decide

My spring contract ends on January 31st of this year and lately I've been wanting to get out of sprint and switch to Verizon. Sprint has slow 3g service, occasional dropped calls in my area of living , and they don't have phones that can compete with Verizon's (IMO). Now I can renew my contract by buying a new phone obviously but I want the new galaxy nexus on Verizon and I can't wait till sprint gets theres otherwise I won't have a cell phone to use for who knows how long. Even then Verizon has amazing 3g compared to sprints. What do y'all get think? What other options are available or what would be the smartest way to go?
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Depends on where you live and how the service is, for most people, it would SEEM that Verizon is far better than Sprint, also T Mobile is good in most cities, etc. You'll pay a little more on VZW but it may be worth it, never had any issues with signal, etc.
T Mobile is definitely best price wise and if you're in a city, I hear nothing but good things.
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I have used every major carrier out there and Verizon has worked best for me. They are a little more expensive but they are the only carrier that gives me 4 bars where i live and i can watch video's on 3g here. Everyone else i had dropped calls and slow speeds but i'm sure every area is a little different.
Just my $.02 worth
Go with Verizon I was with sprint 10 years was only saving 20$/month for ****ty dial up speeds n weak wifi they named 4g
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thanks for the replies guys, I appreciate it. I decided to go with the galaxy nexus on sprint. Found it for $179 on Amazon wireless. Much cheaper than Verizon had at their stores
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I say stay with sprint and wait for the galaxy nexus
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If you "been wanting to get out of sprint and switch to Verizon", then it sounds like you answered your own question. In the end it will likely come down to $20-$30 per month difference in most circumstances, so if that's not a problem for you, then why not get what you really want (IE Nexus on Verizon)?
Edit, didn't see your follow up post, enjoy your new phone
Did you get the nexus s?
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Not worth the cost difference to me, especially with my hospital discount.
Do you want to switch just because it's something shiny and new, or do you want to switch because Verizon legitimately offers something you need and can't get with sprint?
Yes I just bought the galaxy nexus and Verizon legitimately offers me what sprint doesn't and that's full bars everywhere I'm at (work home and shopping centers) And the service is 3x faster compared to sprint in all Of those areas.
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I'd go with Verizon. It all really depends on where you are, but if you get great service with Verizon, go with them. I'm an AT&T user myself but my roommate has Verizon and says he loves it. Great service, decent prices, and awesome customer support.
Kinda surprised OP stayed on Sprint.
Verizon all the way
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Stay with Sprint. No throttling, no data caps. With Network Vision coming into fruition within the next few years, speeds will improve. In my area, I was getting less than 500kbps on 3G. Now I get almost 2 Mbps on 3G and 4G is 6+Mbps (East Bay Area in California). I use Youtube a lot and I'm able to stream videos in HQ on my phone with no lag or buffering on 3G.
Once you get on other carriers, you quickly find how fast you hit your data caps. Last month I used 6 GB of data.
Go with Verizon

at&t vs. t-mobile

I ordered a N4 out of this new batch from Google and should be getting it before long. Currently, I use AT&T, but that's for a non-smart phone. Seems like I'd get more bang for my buck with one of the T-Mobile Value plans than I will with AT&T, where I'd be paying rates equivalent to those with a subsidized phone.
Still, what are the pros and cons of one carrier vs. the other with respect to the N4? Let's forget about phone reception for the purposes of this discussion in that neither of the two would match Verizon where I live (SF Bay Area in the US).
FWIW, I intend to root the device.
Cheaper rates with T-Mobile
Will the N4 support the LTE that T-Mobile is starting to roll out?
The N4 does NOT support the band that AT&T's LTE uses, true?
Comments on the above and any other comments would be greatly appreciated.
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I ordered a N4 out of this new batch from Google and should be getting it before long. Currently, I use AT&T, but that's for a non-smart phone. Seems like I'd get more bang for my buck with one of the T-Mobile Value plans than I will with AT&T, where I'd be paying rates equivalent to those with a subsidized phone.
Still, what are the pros and cons of one carrier vs. the other with respect to the N4? Let's forget about phone reception for the purposes of this discussion in that neither of the two would match Verizon where I live (SF Bay Area in the US).
FWIW, I intend to root the device.
Cheaper rates with T-Mobile
Will the N4 support the LTE that T-Mobile is starting to roll out?
The N4 does NOT support the band that AT&T's LTE uses, true?
Comments on the above and any other comments would be greatly appreciated.
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Hopefully I can help a bit.
I am on the $30/month plan on T-Mobile, and in that regard, few other carriers in the developed world can match the value. Even at $50 for the pre-paid unlimited plans, it's a comparable value. Their contract plans are close to par with those from other providers, but with more "unlimited" options.
As to the second question, the answer is...sort of. It will probably unofficially work with T-Mobile's LTE in the areas where T-Mobile's LTE is rolled out on the bands that the "dormant" LTE in the Nexus 4 supports. Keep in mind this will be most markets, so it could kind of be a gem waiting for T-Mobile to start flipping the switches. Future software updates to the stock ROM may disable LTE to a greater degree, or they might not.
LTE will work on AT&T if you have a 4G data plan and you're in one of the FEW markets where AT&T operates LTE networks on the bands that the Nexus 4 supports. There are not many, and I don't know which ones there are offhand (though I think Kansas City or Oklahoma City are one of them).
Basically, do not buy the Nexus 4 for LTE support. Consider it a bonus if you get it to work, but have zero expectations for it to do so.
T-Mobile has faster HSPA+ speeds, AT&T has better HSPA+ coverage (and coverage overall). If you stick to cities and big towns, T-Mobile will be just as good as anything else.
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Ha, yeah, this is totally the wrong forum.
Thanks for the help, Ajfink.
What's IBTL mean? If it's about the forum being wrong, I posted here because I need to figure out which carrier makes most sense for the N4, which, as you know well, is different than buying a subsidized phone from any of the carriers. When we do that, we know the phone is going to support the bands used by those carriers. This is a different situation and everyone who has the N4 has familiarity with that that I don't.
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Thanks for the help, Ajfink.
What's IBTL mean?
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IBTL = In Before The Lock. Duplicate threads get locked pretty quickly. By the way, IBTL
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IBTL = In Before The Lock. Duplicate threads get locked pretty quickly. By the way, IBTL
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Hadn't seen that one before. Now I'm even more confused. This isn't a duplicate. I haven't posted this elsewhere.
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Hadn't seen that one before. Now I'm even more confused. This isn't a duplicate. I haven't posted this elsewhere.
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Not just posted by you. There are several similar threads in general.
Go T-Mobile. Faster hspa+ and cheaper plans. If at&t didn't own my life right now, I'd switch.
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Just know that Tmobile has fairly bad to no building penetration in some areas. YMMV. I would suggest you get a prepaid sim and test the waters in your service area before making the switch.
The building my wife works in has terrible penetration for AT&T, but her coworker has T-Mobile and does fine. AT&T and VZW have some pretty high priced plans, though it seems that T-Mobile can be right up there under some circumstances. I'm going to give them a try for a month and see how it goes.

VZW supersupport vs everyone else

Ok. Most of the team's and members in this community or on xda either know me or have least seen my name. Whether that is my perception or a fact I am hoping you understand the spirit behind this post.
Foe the past 2 years I have either used a vzw gnex or vzw gs3. I loved the support that the gnex had and the almost google experiance of the galaxy nexus.
One thing I always noticed was the amount of roms that the gsm community had over gnex. It became understood that while many devs and teams tried support both only a hand full or two kept with it. the ones that did were very generous and I am grateful f or all your work and time!!!?
So when i was consideringmy next phone it seemed that a gsm phone would be the way to go to get access to the most devs talent.
So I told vzw to go skip!!!$$$$&&:;;;
Now I broke my contract, paid the fee and signed up with tmobile. Now I have this beast of a phone and the first half dozen aosp roms are built but for verizon not a gsm variant,
I am shocked how the switch happened and fast. I am not complaining just wanted to see the community way in on this. Obviously the development is picking up and might balance out. I also am aware that vzw variant came out earlier in US, however over seas gsm g2's have been out for just as long or longer than vzw.
So please give me your thoughts,
Thanks again to all tje devs and teams no matter if u are currently supporting our not!!!!!
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I had the VZW GNex for almost 2 years and had it unlocked and rooted on day 1. I can't speak to the number of GSM ROMs available, but there was certainly no shortage of development for the LTE variant. I had 4.3 on it 6 months ago. The G2 just got that yesterday...
Just my opinion, but the root-head needs to consider WAY more than past developer support when deciding on a new device. Device popularity fuels development. Like it or not, VZW phones tend to sway the market pretty heavily. The VZW variant of a given device is bound to be one of the most numerous on the planet. Add to that the fact that the previous VZW Nexus devices started falling off contract last month and you have all those people looking to move forward...and likely intending to stay with VZW.
Last I read, The Nexus 5 wasn't likely to be seen any time soom on VZW...but the big brother (the G2) is already out. That puts the VZW G2 in the bulls eye for hot development.
IMHO...
Thanks for your opinion!
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The Toro was probably the most dev supported phone I've ever owned.
Verizon is huge it only figures a great device would get beat dev support.
The worst part about your switch is the substandard network you're now on.
Toro support was good but compared to gsm thread not even close. The network coverage here is better for my home and work. At work 3g sometimes with vzw or nada. Which kills battery. T-Mobile 4g all day, so there is no universal better, that depends on your location. So i had the best network with no data at work all day.
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fr4nk1yn said:
The Toro was probably the most dev supported phone I've ever owned.
Verizon is huge it only figures a great device would get beat dev support.
The worst part about your switch is the substandard network you're now on.
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You mean substandard for where you work/live/play, right? I don't think you'd be dumb enough to suggest that T-Mobile is substandard for everyone, right? Right? I mean, I have 3 lines, unlimited everything, with 30Mbps LTE everywhere that I work/live/play, and I pay 140 dollars a month. I always have service, I always have data, and I don't drop phonecalls. Is that considered substandard to you?
Let me give you a pro tip, that you should follow at all times. Network service is location dependent. I completely understand the need to justify paying 250 dollars for 3 phones with limited data, etc, on VZW by saying at least the network is great, but lets face it. The vast, vast majority of people don't wander too far from home that often. The vast majority of people are not traveling the countryside from coast to coast all year long, and they don't give a rat's behind that bumstick Idaho has LTE coverage on the VZW map. I used to think I needed VZW, I'm glad I broke the spell that they hold over their customers about how every other network is garbage, because it's simply not true.

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