I have a slightly stupid question that i could not find a definite answer...so here goes
if I have a 3g sim card (HSPA bands..850/1900)...can i pop it into an LTE device and i would just get HSPA speeds?
Specifically, for any canucks reading this post, *if* i bought a RAZR from rogers (assuming that i cave in and can't wait for confirmation of when and what price the galaxy nexus will be released here in Canada) which is LTE enabled, can i just take my sim card from my milestone and put it into the RAZR after it's unlocked and i will get the same speeds as i did with my milestone and everything else will work the same?
thanks...
I highly doubt it.
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The SIM card has nothing to do with the network speeds. Your device must have the correct bands to use a different network service. It depends on whether the RAZR has the radio hardware to use your network's "fauxG" service.
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I'm using an AT&T sim card on an unlocked Motorola Milestone since I have unlimited data plan for $15/mth. Can I transfer the 3g sim card to say an unlocked GS2 Skyrocket and get LTE speed (provided I'm in LTE territory)?
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I'm using an AT&T sim card on an unlocked Motorola Milestone since I have unlimited data plan for $15/mth. Can I transfer the 3g sim card to say an unlocked GS2 Skyrocket and get LTE speed (provided I'm in LTE territory)?
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As mentioned, the SIM does nothing to limit your network selection. The only thing the SIM does is perform a handshake with the cell tower. Your device and carrier plan determine what speeds you get. If the Skyrocket supports 3G and fauxG on AT&T, then that's what you'll get. If the device doesn't support it, then popping in a SIM card isn't going to change the radio hardware.
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hi i have bought a rogers unlocked htc raider and now i m trying to use for bell lte sim but it shows only hspda on network it is not connecting to lte plz if someone can help me i will really appreciate .thanks in advance
[Q] I wonder if there is a possible way to use my Thunderbolt LTE SIM in a Xoom or other LTE device Verizon? Also, I would like to know more about LTE frequencies. Like, if I cloned my Verizon SIM with a AT&T LTE Sims, would I be allowed to use AT&T devices on my Verizon account despite the obvious?
Why cloning? Unlock the phone, simple and easy. Sim cloning is getting harder every day, even the old 2g sims with latest encription is hard to clon.it may takes even days..
Lte sims can be used in any lte phones if the phone is not network locked. Remember that sim is not locked to a phone, the thing is phones can be locked to a network via software or cid or nand locking methods. Unlock the phone, use it in any network ( not applicable for cdma phones which can be used in cdma networks ONLY and dont have sim slots ) provided the phone have corresponding network reception bands( hardware limited/ very few times software limited, nothing can be done if u r hardware limited, but software limitations can be unlocked).
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[Q] I wonder if there is a possible way to use my Thunderbolt LTE SIM in a Xoom or other LTE device Verizon? Also, I would like to know more about LTE frequencies. Like, if I cloned my Verizon SIM with a AT&T LTE Sims, would I be allowed to use AT&T devices on my Verizon account despite the obvious?
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Verizon and AT&T both use the 700Mhz field for their LTE but is the small differences that won't allow Swapping
AT&T - 704 - 746MHZ
Verizon - 746MHZ - 787MHZ
Now if they eventually down the road overlap each other in an identical field then yes its possible but Verizon at the moment is using LTE for DATA only and using CDMA for Voice (for now) while AT&T uses both Voice/Data on its LTE.
But Yes you can switch Verizon LTE Phones all you want.. Your account is tied to the Simcard so swap away... I had an HTC Thunderbolt, bought the Rezound and just hot swapped the simcard without ever telling Verizon and it works .... Now I'm not sure if swapping LTE simcard between a tablet and Phone will work the same way.. I would figure yes since the Tablet is only going to use LTE.. but not 100%
It will work. I use my Rezound's SIM for the phone and my Novatel Jetpack. It shows on my account as the Jetpack, with unlimited talk and text.
Im using my Galaxy Nexus(cdma) micro sim in my "new" iPad, no problems.. unlimited data.. and I use Line2 app as my phone/sms. Im sure google voice sms might work for sms too.
Thanks. This is the answer I was hoping for
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Hi I wanted to buy this pone from amazon, but the thing is that I would buy the sprint versión with no contract and I don't live in the US, so my question is, can I unlock this pone to use it with any other company? like Movistar? I read that the pone was GSM so I thought it would be posible, however I won't take the risk of paying 590 dollars for a pone that I can't use, thanks
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Won't work. Sprint is NOT gsm
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hyelton said:
Won't work. Sprint is NOT gsm
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if you dont know dont tell !! sprint s4 (gsm-cdma) but gsm its locked (low level lock )
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if you dont know dont tell !! sprint s4 (gsm-cdma) but gsm its locked (low level lock )
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What do you mean if I dont know dont tell? What does that supposed to mean?
I KNOW my Cellular Networks!
Sprint is a CDMA Network!
The ONLY part about sprint that is NOT CDMA is LTE which the sim card slot is LOCKED to sprint.
They MIGHT be a fix but right now there is NOT. Some of the older phones like the Moto Photon its not LTE but its a world phone and people could flash a few things and make it work, But only EDGE in the USA anyway.
But as of right now and problay for a while its NOT going to work.
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What do you mean if I dont know dont tell? What does that supposed to mean?
I KNOW my Cellular Networks!
Sprint is a CDMA Network!
The ONLY part about sprint that is NOT CDMA is LTE which the sim card slot is LOCKED to sprint.
They MIGHT be a fix but right now there is NOT. Some of the older phones like the Moto Photon its not LTE but its a world phone and people could flash a few things and make it work, But only EDGE in the USA anyway.
But as of right now and problay for a while its NOT going to work.
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Thats right sprint CDMA provider YES! but sprint announce more cdma-gsm phones (like blackberry) now sprint sell locked phones (htcone , S4)and this man need know maybe he unlock phone for him country(i think he live in spain(movistar as i know its spain company! right now he not can use gsm in this phone but i think i found solution maybe via nv maybe via modem patch !
sorry for my english )its not my own language !
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Thats right sprint CDMA provider YES! but sprint announce more cdma-gsm phones (like blackberry) now sprint sell locked phones (htcone , S4)and this man need know maybe he unlock phone for him country(i think he live in spain(movistar as i know its spain company! right now he not can use gsm in this phone but i think i found solution maybe via nv maybe via modem patch !
sorry for my english )its not my own language !
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Modem patch is not even possible with this phone right now... The phones are ONLY meant to run on GSM for LTE data and NOTHING ELSE
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Modem patch is not even possible with this phone right now... The phones are ONLY meant to run on GSM for LTE data and NOTHING ELSE
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bro you not right ! not only for lte data ! if we unlock this phone we can use it in at&t voice and data and t-mobile too ! belive me i know all about samsung phones !!
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bro you not right ! not only for lte data ! if we unlock this phone we can use it in at&t voice and data and t-mobile too ! belive me i know all about samsung phones !!
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I expect Sprint will provide a method soon to unlock the GSM and UMTS functions in the phone to be able to use it internationally. However, I don't expect the GSM and UMTS functions to operate inside the US. Sprint has always disabld them on GSM capable Android and iOS devices it sells.
I don't see why it wouldn't work for you as long as you can get it unlocked.
Sprint is not going to unlock it for you unless you are a long time customer or have the phone with them for 90 days.
hyelton is completely wrong though.. the sim does authenticate lte on sprint but also acts as a gsm sim internationally.
you can also remove the sim and insert any international sim once unlocked providing the carrier uses the correct bands.
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Modem patch is not even possible with this phone right now... The phones are ONLY meant to run on GSM for LTE data and NOTHING ELSE
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You are all kinds of WRONG.
Sprint's GS4 is fully capable of voice and data on international GSM/HSPA+/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz networks. You have to request Sprint to unlock your phone's sim (or find a work around if you're not a Sprint customer), but once unlocked you can pop in any international sim and it will WORK JUST FINE on international GSM networks, they don't have to support LTE. Heck the only thing preventing the SG4 from working on US GSM networks is Sprint locked the Sim from using USofA GSM carrier sim cards.
As long as the OP can get their Sprint SG4 sim unlocked, they can pop in their international sim and use the GSM in their country NO PROBLEM like any other GSM phone.
SO ONCE AGAIN, Sprint's SG4 has a fully functioning GSM modem that supports international carrier GSM/HSPA+/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz bands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You would think someone with almost 2,000 posts and who made a statement like "I KNOW my Cellular Networks!" would know better. Do yourself a huge favor and actually know what you're talking about before you go spouting off again, because you really made yourself look like an ignorant fool.
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You are all kinds of WRONG.
Sprint's GS4 is fully capable of voice and data on international GSM/HSPA+/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz networks. You have to request Sprint to unlock your phone's sim (or find a work around if you're not a Sprint customer), but once unlocked you can pop in any international sim and it will WORK JUST FINE on international GSM networks, they don't have to support LTE. Heck the only thing preventing the SG4 from working on US GSM networks is Sprint locked the Sim from using USofA GSM carrier sim cards.
As long as the OP can get their Sprint SG4 sim unlocked, they can pop in their international sim and use the GSM in their country NO PROBLEM like any other GSM phone.
SO ONCE AGAIN, Sprint's SG4 has a fully functioning GSM modem that supports international carrier GSM/HSPA+/UMTS 850/900/1900/2100MHz bands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You would think someone with almost 2,000 posts and who made a statement like "I KNOW my Cellular Networks!" would know better. Do yourself a huge favor and actually know what you're talking about before you go spouting off again, because you really made yourself look like an ignorant fool.
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Well YES you can easily use your phone overseas, But it was POSTED in the Sprint Forum which is ONLY in the USA and in which using it does NOT apply in the USA. And to get the phone unlocked I`m not sure if a regular unlocking company would be able to do it someone with a sprint account would and it would be MUCH more trouble than just to pick up a ACTUAL GSM carriers Version of the phone.( I should had just said that to begin with) Its VERY pointless to TRY and want to use the sprint Version when they are SEVERAL OTHER varrients that are GSM they could have got to use.
EXCEPT... the op specifically said they wanted to purchase it from Amazon America to use on their country's GSM network.
Why they want to do that? WHO KNOWS, maybe it might be cheaper doing it this way, but that is what they want to do and despite all your unnecessary wrongful information, the OP can do what they asked as long as they can get the sim unlocked.
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EXCEPT... again EXCEPT the op specifically said they wanted to purchase it from Amazon America to use on their country's GSM network.
Why they want to do that? WHO KNOWS, maybe it might be cheaper doing it this way, but that is what they want to do.
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I sell on Amazon and Most people wont ship out of the USA on Amazon. Mostly only Candia but Ive tried ordering a lot of things overseas and 90% I cant as they wont ship here
Amazon sells the Sprint for $599 this is probably why. I bought mine at Best Buy and had them price match Amazon for that price.
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Yea but out of country cant buy FROM sprint...
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Looks like everyone here is an expert in this matter but so far haven't seen a single link to reputable sources... OP call sprint international department and get answer straight from the carrier (888) 226-7212
Even IF the phone is capable of being used in GSM bands internationally, you would have to get it unlocked by sprint and they change policies all the time so just call..
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I got my phone unlocked for international use. I contacted sprint international services. I was initially told that you have to be activated for at least 90 days before they could unlock the phone but would forward my request to some department. After one day I got a email that my phone has been unlocked.
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I got my phone unlocked for international use. I contacted sprint international services. I was initially told that you have to be activated for at least 90 days before they could unlock the phone but would forward my request to some department. After one day I got a email that my phone has been unlocked.
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They unlocked Sprint Galaxy 4?
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They unlocked Sprint Galaxy 4?
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Yea.... but it ONLY works internationally AND you have to be a sprint customer.
The POINT I have been trying to get across is that people need to understand Sprint is a CDMA carrier and ONLY relies on GSM for LTE. I think what people think is that they are solely a gsm carrier like most of the world is but its NOT
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Dose anybody know if a unlocked GSM phone will work on a CDMA sprint Sim Card??
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Dose anybody know if a unlocked GSM phone will work on a CDMA sprint Sim Card??
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No. It's like trying to install Windows 3.1 on a new Mac (not a VM). The two technologies are incompatible. However you could get a T-Mobile/AT&T SIM card and put it on their service. T-Mobile has some pretty good deals like the 5GB/100 min/unlimited SMS 4G service (4G as in unthrottled pure LTE bliss) for $30 at Wal-mart or t-mobile.com under the prepaid section (harder to find).
Hey XDA,
I'm thinking of switching over to Verizon due to corporate discount. If possible I would like to keep this phone and just use the Verizon Sim card with it. If not, I'm planning to trade this phone for a Verizon gs4.
Is there anything that I need to watch out for if I'm buying/trading off of Craigslist or eBay?
Nope
Absolutely no way possible Verizon is on a totally different network setup they use CDMA technology AT&T and T Mobile use GSM the only reason why Verizon is using Sim cards iAbecause they use it for LTE purposes only I've been there and tried it let me save you a headache of asking lol