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Nexus 4 coming tomorrow.

Hey guys, I've got a nexus 4 coming tomorrow and I am really excited! However, there is one thing that kind of scares me... Do the on-screen buttons take up a lot of screen space? Also, what is the best way to deal with them.
Thanks in advance!

Daiskei said:
Hey guys, I've got a nexus 4 coming tomorrow and I am really excited! However, there is one thing that kind of scares me... Do the on-screen buttons take up a lot of screen space? Also, what is the best way to deal with them.
Thanks in advance!
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No, they don't use much space. Some people like to use the PIE instead, I personally turn on expanded desktop on CM10.1 and downloaded a gesture control app. Works pretty good, esp. because I didn't like the PIE

Haha mine is coming in tomorrow too! Along with the wireless charger and cases I bought off of Amazon!
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That makes 3 of us :good: I finally pulled the trigger. I will be receiving it tomorrow. Hope to get the case and SP tomorrow too..

Also most roms have options to change the height of the navbar

Is goo manager the best way to install twrp?
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Alaris said:
Is goo manager the best way to install twrp?
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Theres not really a "best" way.
Why not just use "fastboot flash recovery" to install it? Its probably the most efficient and direct way to go about it.

Daiskei said:
Hey guys, I've got a nexus 4 coming tomorrow and I am really excited! However, there is one thing that kind of scares me... Do the on-screen buttons take up a lot of screen space? Also, what is the best way to deal with them.
Thanks in advance!
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The size and alignment of on-screen buttons is perfect with respective to screen size. However, you can change their size also after rooting the device.

Do you mean flashing it through like twrp?
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Alaris said:
Do you mean flashing it through like twrp?
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The navbar?
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Honestly you can adapt to both options, I used to use it normally and now I am using pie
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T-Mobile lied to me... T_T
They said it would be coming expedited next day but they sent it ground shipping... Won't be here till Monday or Tuesday! Lame.

I prefer the navigation bars over pie. If you use a custom rom with the feature then you can adjust it's size so it appears smaller on the screen.
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Flash a custom ROM and adjust the size of them. I personally think the size of the Navbar on stock is hideous, whenever I compare my phone to my friend's stock N4 I think that mine just looks so much cleaner with less black space at the bottom of the screen. 70% works perfectly for me, not too small but not intrusive either.

Just got mine today! Love it so far!
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The screen buttons are about a quarter of an inch, which imo is fine. Coming from an s3 I prefer on screen buttons over physical buttons any day and will be a deciding factor in buying any future phone.

Yeah on screen a really more responsive in my opinion. Find myself only having to hit them once unlike my s3.
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Thanks guys for all of the info, really excited for my phone to come... Coming from an HTC One S right now and I really like being able to have my recent apps key double as menu on short press and recent apps on long press... Would that be possible with the onscreen buttons?

Sorry for the double post, just wanna say that it arrived last night and I couldn't be any happier on a work day. XD

I don't find them intrusive at all even on the default size, but then again I migrated from an 800x480 phone, lol.
They also auto-hide when playing videos - tapping the screen during the video brings them back again for a few seconds.
Flashing a custom ROM is great for customizing the buttons and what they do. I find that I prefer a menu button over having to hunt for a 3-dot overflow, and I also find a search button useful for quickly bringing up the address bar in the browser so I can type a URL. So thanks to CM10.1 I was easily able to reconfigure the onscreen buttons - I now have Back, Home, Menu, and Search from left to right. The Menu button doubles as a Recent Apps Switcher when longpressed.
What is annoying though is that they are easy to accidentally hit when using apps in portrait mode. I have inadvertently exited Carmageddon many times to my extreme rage :/

Weird SystemUI coding Need help please

Was android coded whilst looking at it upside down? I'm currently trying to make a mod for the statusbar for CM10.2 where I'm moving the signal, and wifi icons to the left side. However.. I noticed that the battery icon says this
"<TextView android:textAppearance="@style/TextAppearance.StatusBar.Battery" android:gravity="left|center""
Correct me if im wrong, but wouldnt Gravity "Left | Center" mean its to the left, or in the center?
Im very confused.

I assume it means that either means be on the left but move to the center if there is an other icon in its way or it will be on the left but on CyanogenMod there is an option to move it to the middle so it will move it to the center.
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go to settings, inputlanguage, choose hebrew
now you know why 4.3 has millions of lines of code.

molesarecoming said:
go to settings, inputlanguage, choose hebrew
now you know why 4.3 has millions of lines of code.
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It's not the millions of lines of code, Im talking about why does it say the clock is on the left side, or the center, when it is ONLY on the right side. Nowhere in CM is an option for centered clock. It's a bit odd.

molesarecoming said:
go to settings, inputlanguage, choose hebrew
now you know why 4.3 has millions of lines of code.
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Haha, really funny.
Really though that is not really related to this thread.
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andyabc said:
Haha, really funny.
Really though that is not really related to this thread.
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Andy, I don't see an option in CM for a centered clock, nor does the clock get moved.
However I did finally just change it to only center, and it didn't move.
Most i got from it was a clean boot up, little bit of a flashing screen that cleared up within 5 seconds, and nothing has changed.

jcmaddox1 said:
Andy, I don't see an option in CM for a centered clock, nor does the clock get moved.
However I did finally just change it to only center, and it didn't move.
Most i got from it was a clean boot up, little bit of a flashing screen that cleared up within 5 seconds, and nothing has changed.
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Then I guess that was some feature of a rom I used to have on my old phone which is currently hard bricked.
Did you look EVERYWHERE in the settings?
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andyabc said:
Then I guess that was some feature of a rom I used to have on my old phone which is currently hard bricked.
Did you look EVERYWHERE in the settings?
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Looked absolutely everywhere, Some roms have it but CM trys to stay as stock as possible, while just enhancing the stock feeling. Like being able to add more tiles to the Quick Tiles. But thats about it.

jcmaddox1 said:
Looked absolutely everywhere, Some roms have it but CM trys to stay as stock as possible, while just enhancing the stock feeling. Like being able to add more tiles to the Quick Tiles. But thats about it.
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Figures.
Pretty strange that there is such thing.
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andyabc said:
Haha, really funny.
Really though that is not really related to this thread.
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why, i think that might be the reason for that strange gravity. they probably do flip everything around.

molesarecoming said:
why, i think that might be the reason for that strange gravity. they probably do flip everything around.
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The thing is that all that code is for translation because Hebrew uses different type of characters so it needs to be matched up with the English characters.
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Moles you brilliant bastard.
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jcmaddox1 said:
Moles you brilliant bastard.
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Hahaha, that bug is just so random. XD
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Oh man look at this XD
Did anyone notice a new type of language which is the first one?
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andyabc said:
Hahaha, that bug is just so random. XD
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Its not a bug. That's how the language works.
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chromium96 said:
Its not a bug. That's how the language works.
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So the whole OS backwards is not a bug?
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Moles you brilliant bastard.
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No it's not a bug, Hebrew is read from right to left. So a mirrored layout makes perfect sense
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andyabc said:
So the whole OS backwards is not a bug?
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thats what i said. why do you think 4.3 had thousands of lines of code. they must have refactured the entire UI system for that one.
i once tried to reverse the navbar, heck, it wasn't easy - but this is just insane, they even flip fragments.
it makesfor a cool trick to play on clueless nexus users though

molesarecoming said:
thats what i said. why do you think 4.3 had thousands of lines of code. they must have refactured the entire UI system for that one.
i once tried to reverse the navbar, heck, it wasn't easy - but this is just insane, they even flip fragments.
it makesfor a cool trick to play on clueless nexus users though
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Yep, seems pretty epic but why do this if the only thing that needs changing is the language?
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andyabc said:
Yep, seems pretty epic but why do this if the only thing that needs changing is the language?
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too much time on their hands? klp already wrapped up and waiting for release? boredom? i cannot say.

Bought the X, ask me questions..

I have some free time. I bought the Moto X. Anybody want to know anything?

Do you have a girlfriend?

Is the power port on top or bottom?

tgerbracht said:
Is the power port on top or bottom?
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Yes married..
on the bottom...
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1. Do you like it compared to your previous phone? 2. Best feature in your opinion? 3. Is Touchless control working 100%?
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Ok seriously though, can you see the pixels if you look closely. I'm not asking about the color or anything. Just can you discern pixels up close.
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Can you send it to me?
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dwd3885 said:
I have some free time. I bought the Moto X. Anybody want to know anything?
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what color back do you have and if it's a solid color does it have a smooth or rubberized feel to it?

Maknora said:
Do you have a girlfriend?
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Married.
tgerbracht said:
Is the power port on top or bottom?
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Micro USB on bottom. Middle.
o2qc418 said:
Yes married..
on the bottom...
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martinezma99 said:
1. Do you like it compared to your previous phone? 2. Best feature in your opinion? 3. Is Touchless control working 100%?
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Previous phone was HTC One. Wife has the S4. I've had nearly all the good ones. Its as good as the One or S4. Its different though. Build quality is great. Feels solid. Camera not great. Too many soft photos.
Best feature is active notifications. Changes the way you could use the phone.
Touchless working for me. After training, of course. I did have one fail on it, with "OK Google Now" in the car. Said it again and it came right up.
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Ok seriously though, can you see the pixels if you look closely. I'm not asking about the color or anything. Just can you discern pixels up close.
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If I am about an inch away from the screen and focus real hard i can see tiny jaggedness in the ATT symbol in notification drawer. Non issue.
GR36 said:
Can you send it to me?
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No
CJBullitt said:
what color back do you have and if it's a solid color does it have a smooth or rubberized feel to it?
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I bought the white. Which is the woven white. Its a smooth feel. It isn't like the Galaxy Nexus which is what I thought it would be like looking at it.
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Have you tried any aftermarket camera apps to see if the pic quality improves?

Trueno22 said:
Have you tried any aftermarket camera apps to see if the pic quality improves?
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I just did with the 4.3 camera from the S4 and quality appears similar. Again, not terrible, but not as good as the One or S4.
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Trueno22 said:
Have you tried any aftermarket camera apps to see if the pic quality improves?
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I've tried Camera Zoom FX and a few others and the quality is about the same.

Why didn't u like the HTC one?
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Is the very right edge of your display slight raised. Can you feel it if you swipe off the edge.
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eallan said:
Is the very right edge of your display slight raised. Can you feel it if you swipe off the edge.
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No. But the very left edge is SLIGHTLY raised. No issue IMO

rruleford said:
Why didn't u like the HTC one?
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I like the One a lot. I didn't like Sense and converted it to Google Play Edition. Was pretty good on that ROM. Honestly, it wasn't what I didn't like about the One but what I like about the X (Active Notifications, Touchless Control, Moto Assist). Those additions are actually useful.
If I had to pick one thing about the One I didn't like, it'd be the power button. All the way on the top left. Had to re-adjust to turn on every time. Obviously very minor issue though.

dwd3885 said:
I like the One a lot. I didn't like Sense and converted it to Google Play Edition. Was pretty good on that ROM. Honestly, it wasn't what I didn't like about the One but what I like about the X (Active Notifications, Touchless Control, Moto Assist). Those additions are actually useful.
If I had to pick one thing about the One I didn't like, it'd be the power button. All the way on the top left. Had to re-adjust to turn on every time. Obviously very minor issue though.
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Double tap to wake is necessary on the One as far as I'm concerned.
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No. But the very left edge is SLIGHTLY raised. No issue IMO
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As a right handed person the raised left would be no big deal.
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eallan said:
Double tap to wake is necessary on the One as far as I'm concerned.
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As a right handed person the raised left would be no big deal.
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Yea I would be concerned, only if I have a case it won't matter anyway.

dwd3885 said:
Yea I would be concerned, only if I have a case it won't matter anyway.
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I can't stand cases. But it's probably going back anyways
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As you use it more, can you report about real world battery life? I'm debating between X and Maxx. For me, 2 days on the Maxx is overkill and if the X comfortably makes it through 20 hours without looking over its shoulder too hard it's a win in my opinion.

[Q] Replacing or exchanging

Just notice a white vertical series of some white blotch marks :/
I like this phone. But I really like the note 3 screen size.
Is anyone thinking about going back for the note 3?
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bodom_hc said:
Just notice a white vertical series of some white blotch marks :/
I like this phone. But I really like the note 3 screen size.
Is anyone thinking about going back for the note 3?
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Nope. The Note 3 has lag and this doesn't. That's enough for me to not even touch that phone.
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WizeGuyDezignz said:
Nope. The Note 3 has lag and this doesn't. That's enough for me to not even touch that phone.
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Throw Nova launcher on there
Or flash darthstalker rom
im thinking twice about this phone lol

bodom_hc said:
Throw Nova launcher on there
Or flash darthstalker rom
im thinking twice about this phone lol
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I will tell you that I hate the Nova option because you can do that on any phone and I like to stay on stock launchers. Also, that's just a band aid. An un-optimized software is underneath.
And trust me, I've had the S3, Note 2 and S4.... Flashing a rom is still using their un-optimized software. It just makes it a bit more bearable.
In my Samsung career I've flashed probably over 100 roms. It doesn't hide the flaws enough. I'm over Samsung and feel sorry for the people who are paying an insane amount of money for a phone with that much lag.
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Nexus 5 experience

With GEL installed, are we having the full nexus 5 experience?
The only thing i can think of is the missing translucent bar in the lock screen.
Am I missing smth?
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fathocker said:
With GEL installed, are we having the full nexus 5 experience?
The only thing i can think of is the missing translucent bar in the lock screen.
Am I missing smth?
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Have you flashed any KitKat ROM? GEL alone can't clone KitKat features.

ngr.hd said:
Have you flashed any KitKat ROM?
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Yes, I'm on 4.4 stock. And I get the translucent bars on the home screen but not on the lock screen.
But as far as i can tell this is normal and you can't do anything about it aside from replacing the framework.
So this would be the only thing different software wise ,as I said in the opening post?
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fathocker said:
Yes, I'm on 4.4 stock. And I get the translucent bars on the home screen but not on the lock screen.
But as far as i can tell this is normal and you can't do anything about it aside from replacing the framework.
So this would be the only thing different software wise ,as I said in the opening post?
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Lol try looking at the the actual nexus 5 features....
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b1337 said:
Lol try looking at the the actual nexus 5 features....
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I did that's why I am asking ... In case you didn't bother to read SOFTWARE. I don't care about screen size, resolution, CPU and what not
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Yes your missing o, e, i, n and g. There must be a problem with your spellchecker. Try SwiftKey. Its much better than stock.
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purpse said:
Yes your missing o, e, i, n and g. There must be a problem with your spellchecker. Try SwiftKey. Its much better than stock.
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And you're missing an apostrophe and an "e" people in glass houses...
But to answer the OP's question, we're missing HDR+, low power music playback, and... yeah I'm struggling to think of any other software differences. Even the 2 differences I mentioned are hardware dependant. And to think I was considering "upgrading".
You can get the transparent lockscreen bars here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527525

purpse said:
Yes your missing o, e, i, n and g. There must be a problem with your spellchecker. Try SwiftKey. Its much better than stock.
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You must love those people. Glad you helped me out bro !
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fathocker said:
I did that's why I am asking ... In case you didn't bother to read SOFTWARE. I don't care about screen size, resolution, CPU and what not
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hardware difference = software difference....multiple features are exclusive, therefore there's a difference
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