Note 3 is being released and it's specs are good.
What I don't understand is why the Note 8 is not available with the 3 GB ROM and not available with 32/64 GB RAM.
As a good size tablet, we need that memory more than a phone that is too small for real note taking.
Shofar
Why do you need 3 gigs of ram?
The more it has the more it is valuable
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Why do you need 3 gigs of ram?
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The more it has the more it is valuable. At least its price is more. :silly:
rumatt said:
Why do you need 3 gigs of ram?
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Because the built is stuff is so large.
Maybe that's why I need 64 GB RAM
I don't feel confident to root and so I'm stuck with Samsung stuff.
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Because the built is stuff is so large.
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Do you even understand when an extra gig of ram will make a difference and when it won't?
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Do you even understand when an extra gig of ram will make a difference and when it won't?
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Maybe not, after all I'm only a lowly "member" not an exalted "Senior Member" who I thought was there to help us lowly ones and not be sarcastic.
When my Note comes with 16 GB and before I do anything I'm starting with less than 10, I'd be grateful for even 1 GB extra.
Shofar
I'm disappointed with the note 3 completely. I'm going with Sony for my next phone the xperia z or whatever it's called. I wanted octacore and they let us down with a quad core. B's. Basically a note 2 with some new touch wiz features 1gb extra ram. Probably because touch wiz will suck that up anyways. My note 2 can actually DO more than the note 3 can anyways. Major disappointed here.
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And its got a 3200 mah battery.....pfft my note 2 has 6400 mah. I won't be buying it that's for sure
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Shofar1 said:
Maybe not, after all I'm only a lowly "member" not an exalted "Senior Member" who I thought was there to help us lowly ones and not be sarcastic.
When my Note comes with 16 GB and before I do anything I'm starting with less than 10, I'd be grateful for even 1 GB extra.
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Buddy I got ur point just u need little correction that its 3 gb RAM not rom and 32/64 gb Internal memory not RAM
This is what the reason I think everybody was confused
Hope I m clear buddy????
And also its not matters if u r junior member or member or senior member or rc,rd,rt or any mods admins etc we all r just a friends who like to take help and provide help when neccesary
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Buddy I got ur point just u need little correction that its 3 gb RAM not rom and 32/64 gb Internal memory not RAM
This is what the reason I think everybody was confused
Hope I m clear buddy????
And also its not matters if u r junior member or member or senior member or rc,rd,rt or any mods admins etc we all r just a friends who like to take help and provide help when neccesary
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Sorry for blowing off steam. I really appreciate xda and all who work to make it what it is.
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janjannsen99 said:
I'm disappointed with the note 3 completely. I'm going with Sony for my next phone the xperia z or whatever it's called. I wanted octacore and they let us down with a quad core. B's. Basically a note 2 with some new touch wiz features 1gb extra ram. Probably because touch wiz will suck that up anyways. My note 2 can actually DO more than the note 3 can anyways. Major disappointed here.
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And its got a 3200 mah battery.....pfft my note 2 has 6400 mah. I won't be buying it that's for sure
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Just a heads up, the Snapdragon 800 is the fastest soc you can get. Will easily run circles around the Exynos 5 Octa.
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janjannsen99 said:
I'm disappointed with the note 3 completely. I'm going with Sony for my next phone the xperia z or whatever it's called. I wanted octacore and they let us down with a quad core. B's. Basically a note 2 with some new touch wiz features 1gb extra ram. Probably because touch wiz will suck that up anyways. My note 2 can actually DO more than the note 3 can anyways. Major disappointed here.
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And its got a 3200 mah battery.....pfft my note 2 has 6400 mah. I won't be buying it that's for sure
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So you are comparing a Stock Note 3 (that you have only seen on videos) with your modded Note 2 that you have also put a higher capacity battery into? Then you continue to say that 3GB of RAM is useless (more or less) since TW will eat it up.. That makes total sense....
I am pretty sure you are welcome to void the warranty of the Note 3 when it comes out by changing the ROM and modifying the hardware to your liking.
Most new phones are just old phones with a few added features and some new hardware...
Shofar1 said:
Note 3 is being released and it's specs are good.
What I don't understand is why the Note 8 is not available with the 3 GB ROM and not available with 32/64 GB RAM.
As a good size tablet, we need that memory more than a phone that is too small for real note taking.
Shofar
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3gb ram, full HD screen will come in note 8, 2014 version like note 10.1 , 2014 version
This year version of note 8 was just about testing the waters by Samsung
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IMO 3 gig ram is future ready. It is not needed now. But in the future it might be.
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So you are comparing a Stock Note 3 (that you have only seen on videos) with your modded Note 2 that you have also put a higher capacity battery into? Then you continue to say that 3GB of RAM is useless (more or less) since TW will eat it up.. That makes total sense....
I am pretty sure you are welcome to void the warranty of the Note 3 when it comes out by changing the ROM and modifying the hardware to your liking.
Most new phones are just old phones with a few added features and some new hardware...
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Yea too everything
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janjannsen99 said:
I'm disappointed with the note 3 completely. I'm going with Sony for my next phone the xperia z or whatever it's called. I wanted octacore and they let us down with a quad core. B's. Basically a note 2 with some new touch wiz features 1gb extra ram. Probably because touch wiz will suck that up anyways. My note 2 can actually DO more than the note 3 can anyways. Major disappointed here.
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And its got a 3200 mah battery.....pfft my note 2 has 6400 mah. I won't be buying it that's for sure
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Why do people get hung up on the number of cores anyway? Are the Note 2 or Note 8 or Galaxy S4 not fast enough? Secondly, the "octa-core" is not a true 8-core and is in effect a quad core. The other 4 cores are something along the lines of lower powered cores for low power usage applications and battery saving. In real life, the Snapdragon 600 in the S4 which is a quad core does better, and he 800 is far better. The Note 3 has a far better CPU than the octa-core that Samsung invented.
And what exactly does your Note 2 do that the Note 3 can't?
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why not???
the more ram..the more apps you can have running in the background....cant wait for the 2nd generation note 8!!
Shofar1 said:
Note 3 is being released and it's specs are good.
What I don't understand is why the Note 8 is not available with the 3 GB ROM and not available with 32/64 GB RAM.
As a good size tablet, we need that memory more than a phone that is too small for real note taking.
Shofar
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my N5100 has 32 GB of RAM , bought in august here in Belgium !
bibi_50 said:
my N5100 has 32 GB of RAM , bought in august here in Belgium !
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Great.
My note was bought in Germany in May and no 32 GB RAM was available.
You are the first person I've heard of with the 32 GB model.
St range, bought it at Mediamarkt, à german store here in Belgium
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Yes funny, that's where I bought it too. Media Mart.
They advertised 32 GB but only came up with 16.
Could be the guy just was not able to find it or it was not out yet.
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Yes you just read the title of this message right. Our insider just gave us the first official “unconfirmed” specifications of the next generation Galaxy S, the Galaxy S IV. The Galaxy S IV will no longer use the Samsung EXYNOS processor and according to the latest rumours this processor has overheating issues. Today we can confirm Samsung will use the Snapdragon 600 and it is clocked at 1.9 Ghz which is 0.2 Ghz higher than the HTC One. The Galaxy S IV will have 2 GB of RAM and will come in three variants 16, 32 or 64 GB. As the rumours earlier reported Samsung is going to use a Full HD display. The Galaxy S IV uses a 4,99″ Full-HD SoLux Display we have no information if this is based on LCD3 like the HTC One. But a couple of months ago we posted the first hint regarding Samsung’s LCD factory is ready to produce Full HD panels from early 2013. And we also know Samsung’s AMOLED factory does have many problems with the production of full HD AMOLED screens.
We also know more about the build and dimensions of the device. According to our insider the dimensions of the device are 140.1 x 71.8 x 7.7mm and the weight is 138 gram, the new Galaxy S IV will use a home button and will have touch buttons. If you look at the photo below you will see that it will be square formed again, so they dropped the Galaxy SIII design line. He also said the sides are made from aluminium but the back is still plastic which automatic hints to a removable battery which is good to know.
Yesterday we already found out that the Galaxy S IV will have a 13 megapixel camera. Some leaked photos created by the Galaxy S IV showed up to confirm that.
If our insider is right again this is a bad sign for all the EXYNOS and AMOLED freaks out there. Below a list of the confirmed specifications through us right under the specification list you will see the boot screen photo.
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- 2 GB RAM
- 16, 32 or 64 GB
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http://www.sammobile.com/2013/02/23...xynos-inside-new-galaxy-s-iv-with-bootscreen/
Sad news? This is great news if it's true!
AW: BB AMOLED and Exynos
No Exynos isn't that bad.
No AMOLED would be disappointing.
SD card, removable battery and a menu key makes it still top on my list.
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So no octa - core discussed earlier? shame
Glebun said:
So no octa - core discussed earlier? shame
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Why do you even need 6 cores. Currently no app is using 4 cores anyway. It is a waste of time and money to have 6 core processor on a phone..
harise100 said:
No Exynos isn't that bad.
No AMOLED would be disappointing.
SD card, removable battery and a menu key makes it still top on my list.
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No octa - disappointing because no power saving
But if it was supposed to be Eynos Quad A15 - dont care, Snapdragon is good too
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Why do you even need 6 cores. Currently no app is using 4 cores anyway. It is a waste of time and money to have 6 core processor on a phone..
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Exynos octa is 4xA15 + ultra power saving 4xA7
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Why do you even need 6 cores. Currently no app is using 4 cores anyway. It is a waste of time and money to have 6 core processor on a phone..
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Exynos 5 Octa uses I think it was 4 low power cores and 4 high speed cores, so it's not a battery drain for low end tasks. (Octa = 8)
I will wait for official word on this, I can't see Samsung announcing the Octa this year, then not using it, it gives competitors a chance to trump it.
If they do use the snapdragon 600 it will be good because whist yes the Exynos is a good processor Samsung will not release decent documentation for it, so developers have a hard time getting AOSP roms working efficiantly, the Snapdragon range is completely open source so roms will work a lot better, and be easier to port. Exynos has already made developers leave Samsung devices.
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Exynos 5 Octa uses I think it was 4 low power cores and 4 high speed cores, so it's not a battery drain for low end tasks. (Octa = 8)
I will wait for official word on this, I can't see Samsung announcing the Octa this year, then not using it, it gives competitors a chance to trump it.
If they do use the snapdragon 600 it will be good because whist yes the Exynos is a good processor Samsung will not release decent documentation for it, so developers have a hard time getting AOSP roms working efficiantly, the Snapdragon range is completely open source so roms will work a lot better, and be easier to port. Exynos has already made developers leave Samsung devices.
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Or may be, just like S3, the Snapdragon will be for LTE and Exynos for non-LTE S4s?
#fake #fail
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Or may be, just like S3, the Snapdragon will be for LTE and Exynos for non-LTE S4s?
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Possibly but less likely with them using Exynos in the i9305 showing they can make it work (im not too sure the exact reason for not using Exynos in the US variants)
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Sv: BB AMOLED and Exynos
Makes me wanna sell my S3...
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WOW GS4 with Amoled plus @1080p with Exynos Octa and 3GB of ram with 128GB memory
LMAO
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Or may be, just like S3, the Snapdragon will be for LTE and Exynos for non-LTE S4s?
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doubt that, since they got LTE and exynos working together finally. but the snapdragon seems like a give and take situation. that octa looks like it'll be an amazing processor, but if it's a snapdragon then we can finally get AOSP working fine.
as for the LCD, that's gonna be a personal preference for everyone. I wouldn't mind either, but I'd miss the blacks on the LED. the color punch is really nothing, I set my display to natural.
but really, do we even need the octa now? these phones we have now are over powered. I run my note ii at 1ghz with 1 core enabled and notice no differences in day to day use (except video chatting, that requires at least two cores lol) . point is, these quad cores (by today's standards) are just too much, and kinda gimmicky. I don't think we'll need to see the octa for a good year or two.
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doubt that, since they got LTE and exynos working together finally. but the snapdragon seems like a give and take situation. that octa looks like it'll be an amazing processor, but if it's a snapdragon then we can finally get AOSP working fine.
as for the LCD, that's gonna be a personal preference for everyone. I wouldn't mind either, but I'd miss the blacks on the LED. the color punch is really nothing, I set my display to natural.
but really, do we even need the octa now? these phones we have now are over powered. I run my note ii at 1ghz with 1 core enabled and notice no differences in day to day use (except video chatting, that requires at least two cores lol) . point is, these quad cores (by today's standards) are just too much, and kinda gimmicky. I don't think we'll need to see the octa for a good year or two.
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Samsung have announced the Octa now, it won't be long before other chip manufacturers try to beat it, then Samsung's great idea will be old tech before it comes out. They have no choice but to put it in something if they want to make any use of it.
Btw we will get more details from Samsung on mwc starting tomorrow. Ill believe this only if it comes from Samsung. Whatever the processor or screen it has already been decided and s4 shoukd be in mass production right now.
《posted from s3》
I think that's nt true. Because making a SS on PS and open up that image on a phone and taking a photo in bad light conditions isn't too hard.
Actually, I think that phone is Xperia Z or LG Optimus and photo taken with a S3...
Next Galaxy S device(international version) will have Exynos Octa(5440 or 5410) or Dual(5250) with 5" FULL HD Super AMOLED Display. Why Samsung use another solution? I don't know any logical reason. Warming? Power consumption? Software based reasons? I don't think so. This is my two cents.
On the other hand, I think(I know, I used a lot -I Think-s)next Galaxy S device will have Exynos Octa, 2GB of ram, Mali T604 or T658 GPU, better camera lens(S3's sensor is good but lens is a bit deficient.), 2600mAh battery and also more durable chasis and screen. On software, Samsung will do wonders...
Edit: If I had gramatical mistakes, I want to say I'm sorry for that. Because Eng. is my 3rd language.
You obviously seem to have very little knowledge concerning technical product design. If it' physically impossible at the moment to manage the heating problems in this case, then in fact THIS IS a reason to kick the Octa processor for a Snapdragon...
|| Typed with my S3 or my Note 10.1 ||
I for one welcome Qualcomm in the international Samsung phones. Makes for a great if not superb aosp experience, doesn't it? Or am I being too naive?
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You obviously seem to have very little knowledge concerning technical product design. If it' physically impossible at the moment to manage the heating problems in this case, then in fact THIS IS a reason to kick the Octa processor for a Snapdragon...
|| Typed with my S3 or my Note 10.1 ||
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sorry u r Wrong , because snapdragon s4 pro overheat and throttle like hell and probably S600 will overheat even more
Theshawty said:
I for one welcome Qualcomm in the international Samsung phones. Makes for a great if not superb aosp experience, doesn't it? Or am I being too naive?
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well lets hope, but its Ssung, u never know what they come up with.
What is going on?
Unless there is reserved RAM for the system, It seems to be using a lot of it on it's own (no apps running)
It is Normal if you have the Snapdragon variant
androidlover287 said:
What is going on?
Unless there is reserved RAM for the system, It seems to be using a lot of it on it's own (no apps running)
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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I do in-deed The only variant sold in the UK (had the device 2 days now) is the SM-9005 (LTE/4G). Thank you for clearing that up for me
androidlover287 said:
I do in-deed The only variant sold in the UK (had the device 2 days now) is the SM-9005 (LTE/4G). Thank you for clearing that up for me
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I am glad, enjoy your beast
SAVVAS. said:
You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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any thoughts on why so much more then the lg g2, which also has the 800?
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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nice to know
what about the N9000 ?
it's full 3GB RAM?
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any thoughts on why so much more then the lg g2, which also has the 800?
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To be honest I have no clue, I do know that every snapdragon variant of Note 3 preserves a half gigabyte for the system (GPU) so logically Samsung chosed this set up and it is not by random. Maybe because Note 3 has 3GB of ram compared to LG which has 2GB and therefore the Snapdragon has more allowance/capacity to absorb more ram as 3 GB ram is plenty! Probably the bigger ram it preserves over the LG can be considered as an advantage and not disadvantage especially in the case of Note's 3 huge amount of ram.
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To be honest I have no clue, I do know that every snapdragon variant of Note 3 preserves a half gigabyte for the system (GPU) so logically Samsung chosed this set up and it is not by random. Maybe because Note 3 has 3GB of ram compared to LG which has 2GB and therefore the Snapdragon has more allowance/capacity to absorb more ram as 3 GB ram is plenty! Probably the bigger ram it preserves over the LB can be considered as an advantage and not disadvantage especially in the case of Note's 3 huge amount of ram.
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Yah sounds like all we know for now is the sd variant shows less memory. Just hoping it doesn't actually have less memory (physically).
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nice to know
what about the N9000 ?
it's full 3GB RAM?
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As far as I am concerned the Exynos version has 2.70 GB compared to Snapdaragon which has 2.40GB so it has a little bit more!
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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As far as I am concerned the Exynos version has 2.70 GB compared to Snapdaragon which has 2.40GB so it has a little bit more!
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thanks for the info
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Yah sounds like all we know for now is the sd variant shows less memory. Just hoping it doesn't actually have less memory (physically).
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From what I have seen so far, reviews-videos-comments,it seems that ram is not an issue on Snapdragon variants! Time will tell, that's for sure
staryoshi said:
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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G2 has sd800 + adreno 330, 1080p, but doesn't reserve anywhere near that much (granted has less to start). And yet doesn't seem to suffer from any performance issues. Something just isn't adding up for me, and don't have one yet to see for myself..
They made it that way for a reason. All that S stuff and Pen doesn't function on memory. It runs on ram. What you don't see is the "dedicated" amount of ram taken. Just like video cards.
The G2 has the same amount of ram being taken, it just doesn't show it. Same design for the GPro.
Your phone's are fine, and don't worry about all the free ram you don't see. Some of the ram that is shown as being used is reserved so apps aren't pulled from memory. It's pulled from RAM instead. It's more battery friendly.
It costs more battery power to have 'free' RAM sit there and then having apps occupy it, compared to the ram already being cached.
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No offense, but that's just nonsense. More physical ram takes more battery, that's true. But that's purely physical ram, regardless of what is, or isn't stored on it, as data stored in ram is no different if its marked free, or used.
And the lg 'not showing it', is more nonsense.
I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the phone, just that something doesn't add up, and would like to find out what that is legitimately, not based on nonsense/fud.
best for gaming?
Can you plz tell me that which version of galaxy note 3 is best for gaming... N9000 or N9005?
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You probably have the Snapdragon variant SM-N9005 and yes, there is almost a half gigabyte reserved for system (GPU I think) in all Snapdragon Notes!
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Can you plz tell me that which one would be better for games like Modern Combat 4... N9000 or n9005?
(if octa core uses all cores simultaniously)
Ali_Ejea said:
Can you plz tell me that which version of galaxy note 3 is best for gaming... N9000 or N9005?
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Can you plz tell me that which one would be better for games like Modern Combat 4... N9000 or n9005?
(if octa core uses all cores simultaniously)
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I am quite confident that N9005 is better for games!
staryoshi said:
It's logical (if it is indeed the case) to reserve a good amount of memory for the GPU to access. It is a 1080p device, after all. Graphically-intense processes at higher resolutions typically require more memory than their lower resolution counterparts. The Adreno 330 is a more powerful GPU than the Mali-T628 MP, too.
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That doesn't explain why Exynos version has 2.70gb RAM vs 2.40gb RAM in the Snapdragon.
I may not be the best judge, having came from a phone with 1GB of RAM, but the Galaxy Note 3 has been a beast when it comes to multitasking for me. I'm pleasantly surprised when I switch to an app I haven't used for a while and it's STILL in active memory (i.e. doesn't have to reload). My old Galaxy Nexus used to drive me nuts with that, pretty much could only have 2, maybe 3 apps open at once.
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I am quite confident that N9005 is better for games!
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Can you tell me the reason bro? I am going to place my order tommorow so i just want to ensure that which one of those two is better for gaming and why? Plz reply me as soon as possible... Thanks
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And one more thing, is there any octa core variant of Note 3 with 4g LTE support?
I'm tempted to upgrade my decrepit S2. Now with the S4 it seemed like the choice was like this
1) The Snapdragon based i9505 had better battery life, stability and LTE. It was supported well by Cyanogenmod
2) The Exynos based i9500 didn't have any of that stuff.
On the other hand the Exynos version was the only version on sale in Taiwan where I live. Now I could get an i9505 in the UK but the UK's a horrible place to buy phones or indeed anything - the prices are the highest in the world and Samsung products sold in Europe had funny SIM locking issues.
w w w.extremetech.com/electronics/167621-how-samsung-is-region-locking-the-galaxy-s4-and-note-3-and-what-it-means-for-you
NB links are nerfed to avoid the spam filter - s/w w w/www/g to make them work
So I decided to pass on the S4.
Is the same thing going to happen with the S5? I've found a list of model numbers
w w w.sammobile.com/2014/01/29/all-model-numbers-sm-g900-galaxy-s5-confirmed/
- SM-G9006V_CHN_CHN (China)
- SM-G9008V_CHN_ZM (China)
- SM-G9009D_CHN_CTC (China)
- SM-G900A_NA_ATT (AT&T)
- SM-G900D_JPN_DCM (Japan)
- SM-G900F_EUR_XX (Open Europe)
- SM-G900H_EUR_XX (Open Europe)
- SM-G900I_SEA_XSA (Asia)
- SM-G900J_JPN_KDI (Japan)
- SM-G900K_KOR_KTC (Korea)
- SM-G900L_KOR_LGC (Korea)
- SM-G900M_LA_VF (Vodafone)
- SM-G900P_NA_SPR (Sprint)
- SM-G900R4_NA_USC (US Cellular)
- SM-G900S_KOR_SKC (Korea)
- SM-G900T_NA_TMB (T-Mobile)
- SM-G900V_NA_VZW (Verizon)
- SM-G900W8_NA_BMC (BMC)
I also know that the ones on sale in Taiwan are SM-G900I. I guess the question is whether they are Exynos or Snapdragon?
Of course it's also possible that Samsung have fixed the issues with the Exynos that caused Exynos based S4's to have worse battery life - rumoured to be that the Cache Coherent Interconnect bus didn't work and had to be disabled. Even so I think custom Roms are important and for the S2-S4 Snapdragon based devices have been better supported by them.
Questions
1) Am I right that Snapdragon based S5's are a better bet?
2) Is the SM-G900I Snapdragon or Exynos?
3) Does anyone know a shop near New York or Washington where I could pick up a SIM unlocked Snapdragon S5 for a reasonably price? I think I'll be on the East Coast of the US for a business trip in a month or so so I could get one then.
I personally will choose Snap not Exynos as its always hot whike processing. This been proved from various Samsung models.
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The Exynos version is expected to pack the new 5422 SoC that supports HMP, so it should be able to run all 8 cores at once, in which case it will be definitely faster than the 801. Battery life is a big question, but the Exynos 6 Hexa in the Note 3 Neo ain't bad at all, so the new Octa at the minimum looks promising.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_3_neo-review-1038p3.php
Not to mention Exynos = Perseus kernel = MFin' win.
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Are you seriously sure that perseus kernel dev would support s5???
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I personally will choose Snap not Exynos as its always hot whike processing. This been proved from various Samsung models.
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Not Galaxy S2, Note1 and S3 (with S3 the actual problem is the RAM, not the CPU). At that time, US versions use what people called Crapdragon.
Note 2 has Exynos version only, but it's very hard to get hot, highest stability result ever in any mobile phone, and the best battery life at its time.
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Not to mention Exynos = Perseus kernel = MFin' win.
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I just hope this time they will bring LTE to the Exynos variant too. Otherwise i'll have to go with the snapdragon.
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I just hope this time they will bring LTE to the Exynos variant too. Otherwise i'll have to go with the snapdragon.
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No LTE with Exynos this time also but interestingly there is 4K video capture.
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No LTE with Exynos this time also but interestingly there is 4K video capture.
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Yup!
Snapdragon version would be better IMO because it will have more dev support than the exynos version.
snadragon version also has LTE
And yes, the i9505 had better battery life than the i9500.
correct me if i am wrong, but the exynos octa used in the S4 isnt too different from the one used in the S5?
So if that were true, the snapdragon 801 should create an even bigger gap between the new exynos octa in terms of battery life.
Hmm.. exynos s4 has longer battery, you can check thread in xda or ericca griffin youtube comparison
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dragon135 said:
Hmm.. exynos s4 has longer battery, you can check thread in xda or ericca griffin youtube comparison
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For your infos
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For your infos
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Android system percentage is way too high, maybe you have some app causing long wakelocks.
Anyway, here is a reference to my battery life on the exynos S4 on android 4.4.2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50560473&postcount=969
Since it's in Hebrew (forgot changing the language to English before taking the screenshot) i'll translate:
4 hours and 51 minutes screen on time + 2 days 17 hours off charger.
spazzy1912 said:
Snapdragon version would be better IMO because it will have more dev support than the exynos version.
snadragon version also has LTE
And yes, the i9505 had better battery life than the i9500.
correct me if i am wrong, but the exynos octa used in the S4 isnt too different from the one used in the S5?
So if that were true, the snapdragon 801 should create an even bigger gap between the new exynos octa in terms of battery life.
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The New Exynos is much better with HMP and a better GPU than the Exynos used in the S4.
It is similar to the one used in the Note 3. The Exynos version of the Note 3 has good battery life and is as good as the SD800 version.
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The New Exynos is much better with HMP and a better GPU than the Exynos used in the S4.
It is similar to the one used in the Note 3. The Exynos version of the Note 3 has good battery life and is as good as the SD800 version.
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Oh I see. But minus the LTE right?
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Oh I see. But minus the LTE right?
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LTE sucks lots of battery life
leoaudio13 said:
LTE sucks lots of battery life
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Not so much with Qualcomm's envelope tracking technology. LTE can be more efficient than old school 3G antennas, although much depends on reception (usually stronger for 3G).
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Not so much with Qualcomm's envelope tracking technology. LTE can be more efficient than old school 3G antennas, although much depends on reception (usually stronger for 3G).
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Lacks of signals requires more search. Obviously it does suck battery like a vampire hehe
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Android system percentage is way too high, maybe you have some app causing long wakelocks.
Anyway, here is a reference to my battery life on the exynos S4 on android 4.4.2:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50560473&postcount=969
Since it's in Hebrew (forgot changing the language to English before taking the screenshot) i'll translate:
4 hours and 51 minutes screen on time + 2 days 17 hours off charger.
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Thats why we need deodexed rom with stable kernel and FYI, TWRP is coming
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leoaudio13 said:
Thats why we need deodexed rom with stable kernel and FYI, TWRP is coming
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Odex saves more battery AFAIK and without it we can't enable ART.
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LTE sucks lots of battery life
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eh, i turn off mobile data when i don't use it anyway since i am in school most the time.
Hey Guys and Gals
Huawei have jumped into the "Phablet" market with its flagship Ascend Mate 7. This device has a massive 6" screen, some may find this an issue as its a hand stretching 81mm in width. The 16GB model comes with 2GB of RAM and the 32 with 3GB. Whats your thoughts on this device?
Lets take a look at the Huawei Ascend Mate 7 Specifications
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Specifications:
Display - IPS LCD, 1080 x 1920 pixels, 6.0 inches (~368 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - HiSilicon Kirin 925
CPU - Quad-core 1.8 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU - Mali-T628
RAM - 2GB RAM (3GB on 32GB model)
Memory - 16/32 GB, Expandable With Card Slot 32 GB
Camera - 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash. Video: [email protected]
Secondary Camera - 5 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n, dual-band, DLNA, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0, A2DP, EDR, LE
Battery - 4100 mAh
Dimensions - 157 x 81 x 7.9 mm
Weight - 185 g
Source: gsmarena
This looks actually pretty impressive....its what the note 4 could/should have been in some aspects.
If available in canada with working LTE I could see getting one.
Never thought id ever be interested in a huawei device but they nailed it with this one
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I have to wait for more in-depth reviews of the device, but I am seriously considering getting the Ascend Mate 7. I currently have a Note 3, and was hoping that Samsung would either increase the size of the Note 4 or release an updated version of the Galaxy Mega 6.3, but no such luck.
This video shows off the AM7 and it looks really nice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayYcVWO3yLI
I'm so jealous of those bloggers at IFA that got one.
Also, I wonder what kind of dev support we can expect here on XDA for the AM7.
Dev support is definately something I would take into consideration prior to buying.
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Looking at the mate 6 forums there's plenty of support.
I'm also very interested in this device, owning an note 3 and seeing how the note 4 is a big letdown I'm considering upgrading to this.
This phone looks great! There will always be the people that dislike this and the other Mates for their mid-range specs, but this phone is mostly for battery life. I have a Mate2 and I can get 2-3 days on one charge easily.
Also, we just achieved root today! Sadly Xposed doesn't completely work, along with Viper4Android.
As for dev support, the original Mate has a number of ROMs up, but the Mate2 has nothing. Again, we just got root very recently. Another reason why is most likely because no one knows about this phone. Maybe the Mate7 will bring new developers and users. And if that happens, I hope the Mate2 gets the same treatment.
Sammath said:
Looking at the mate 6 forums there's plenty of support.
I'm also very interested in this device, owning an note 3 and seeing how the note 4 is a big letdown I'm considering upgrading to this.
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There is no Mate6, unless you mean the Ascend P6?
ScoobSTi said:
This phone looks great! There will always be the people that dislike this and the other Mates for their mid-range specs, but this phone is mostly for battery life. I have a Mate2 and I can get 2-3 days on one charge easily.
Also, we just achieved root today! Sadly Xposed doesn't completely work, along with Viper4Android.
As for dev support, the original Mate has a number of ROMs up, but the Mate2 has nothing. Again, we just got root very recently. Another reason why is most likely because no one knows about this phone. Maybe the Mate7 will bring new developers and users. And if that happens, I hope the Mate2 gets the same treatment.
There is no Mate6, unless you mean the Ascend P6?
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Ahh, my bad yes that one.
I hope the mate 7 will get cm. If it does it will be a blessing of a phone.
I would buy this right now for battery!
I'm currently using Nexus 5. I would really like to know if we would get stock rom on this. I really like the dual antenna and finger print setup. I think it will be challenging to get stock to working on those features.
Anyway I am still willing to buy it now. Any suggestions where would I get it?
ScoobSTi said:
This phone looks great! There will always be the people that dislike this and the other Mates for their mid-range specs, but this phone is mostly for battery life. I have a Mate2 and I can get 2-3 days on one charge easily.
Also, we just achieved root today! Sadly Xposed doesn't completely work, along with Viper4Android.
As for dev support, the original Mate has a number of ROMs up, but the Mate2 has nothing. Again, we just got root very recently. Another reason why is most likely because no one knows about this phone. Maybe the Mate7 will bring new developers and users. And if that happens, I hope the Mate2 gets the same treatment.
There is no Mate6, unless you mean the Ascend P6?
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Hasn't the Ascend Mate 2 been out since February? If it took this long to get root, that doesn't bode well for the Mate 7. I don't think I could wait half a year for root.
Techngro said:
Hasn't the Ascend Mate 2 been out since February? If it took this long to get root, that doesn't bode well for the Mate 7. I don't think I could wait half a year for root.
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Yup, around that time but that was the Chinese/overseas model. It already got root and even an official KitKat update.
Our US model only started to get sold here back in July, I believe. So about 2 months to get root.
Mate7 looks like it will be a Bad ass phone, like to get my hands on one.....
If stock Android/root would be guaranteed I'd buy this the first moment I could get it.
Will T-Mobile LTE work on it?
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If stock Android/root would be guaranteed I'd buy this the first moment I could get it.
Will T-Mobile LTE work on it?
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Yes T-Mobile LTE, and you can Unlock any Huawei Bootloader and Root using the hw-qmonekeytool and adb
rekamyenom said:
Yes T-Mobile LTE, and you can Unlock any Huawei Bootloader and Root using the hw-qmonekeytool and adb
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Well if it was as easy as you just made it sound, why'd it take the other mate referred to in the other thread forever to gain root?
Guess I just gotta wait for someone to port stock. I could use a launcher I guess.
Poi25 said:
Well if it was as easy as you just made it sound, why'd it take the other mate referred to in the other thread forever to gain root?
Guess I just gotta wait for someone to port stock. I could use a launcher I guess.
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We didn't have the hw-qmonekeytool to get the 16 digit code needed for the Unlock of the bootloader to get root, now we do. Huawei is like HTC, as long as you have that code, you can unlock any Bootlader on any Huawei and get root.
I buy all my Huawei's direct from China (Better prices) Once the Mate7 is available (in the Configuration I need for FDD LTE) I will have it.
rekamyenom said:
I buy all my Huawei's direct from China (Better prices) Once the Mate7 is available (in the Configuration I need for FDD LTE) I will have it.
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What's FDD LTE? Also, am curious how the octacore within the Mate 7 compares to other SoC's nowadays. seems like a low clock to me at 1.8, ya?
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What's FDD LTE? Also, am curious how the octacore within the Mate 7 compares to other SoC's nowadays. seems like a low clock to me at 1.8, ya?
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We use FDD LTE (Frequency Division Duplex-Long Term Evolution) here in the US they Use TD LTE (Time-division Long-Term Evolution) in China.
The Ascend Mate 7 features an octa-core (1.8GHz A15 + 1.3GHz A7) Kirin 925 SoC with Mali T628 GPU. While the 16GB variant will come with 2GB of RAM, the 32GB variant will pack 3GB of RAM.
That Kirin Chip is bad asssssss
http://consumer.huawei.com/minisite/worldwide/Ascend-Mate7/
rekamyenom said:
The Ascend Mate 7 features an octa-core (1.8GHz A15 + 1.3GHz A7) Kirin 925 SoC with Mali T628 GPU. While the 16GB variant will come with 2GB of RAM, the 32GB variant will pack 3GB of RAM.
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lol, I didn't need you to rehash the specs. Just wanted to know if there's comparisons to the other flagship SoC's out there.
So if I purchase the mate 7, is it gonna be compatible with At&t or T-Mobile's LTE?
And any words of availability?
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So if I purchase the mate 7, is it gonna be compatible with At&t or T-Mobile's LTE?
And any words of availability?
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Yes
I believe they are pre-order right now
Hi all
This thread is intended to focus on the hardware specifications and design of the LG K10. Feel free to discuss individual components and compare them with those available in competing devices.
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Specifications (K420N):
Display - IPS LCD, 5.3 inches, 720 x 1280 pixels (~277 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Qualcomm MSM8916 Snapdragon 410
CPU - Quad-core 1.2 GHz Cortex-A53
GPU - Adreno 306
RAM - 1.5 GB
Memory - 16 GB, microSD
Camera - 13 MP, f/2.2, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 5 MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, proximity
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac, dual-band, WiFi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.1
Battery - 2300 mAh
Dimensions - 146 x 74.8 x 8.8 mm
Weight - 142 g
Color Availability - White, Indigo, Gold
source: gsmarena
I got the 2gb variant with Android 6.0 out of the box. LG-k430dsY. I'm from the Philippines.
ermond012 said:
I got the 2gb variant with Android 6.0 out of the box. LG-k430dsY. I'm from the Philippines.
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How is the battery life sir?
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How is the battery life sir?
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Well, the battery is ok. When I use mobile data I only get max of 2hrs SoT (2hrs to 3hrs I guess). But when I use wi-fi instead, SoT can reach more than 6hrs.
ermond012 said:
Well, the battery is ok. When I use mobile data I only get max of 2hrs SoT (2hrs to 3hrs I guess). But when I use wi-fi instead, SoT can reach more than 6hrs.
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Oh.
It looks like I'm gonna have to purchase a powerbank since I used mobile data most of the time if I am gonna buy this phone.
How about root access, did you able to root it?
By the way I'm from Philippines too.
You can check my screenshots for reference of my current battery usage from 100%.?
No, I haven't tried rooting it yet and I don't have any plans. Hehe...? I bought mine from MemoXpress SM North EDSA and it's a Mediatek variant which comes with 2gb of RAM, 13mp rear cam, 5mp front-facing cam, 16gb internal and Marshmallow out of the box.?
ermond012 said:
You can check my screenshots for reference of my current battery usage from 100%.
No, I haven't tried rooting it yet and I don't have any plans. Hehe... I bought mine from MemoXpress SM North EDSA and it's a Mediatek variant which comes with 2gb of RAM, 13mp rear cam, 5mp front-facing cam, 16gb internal and Marshmallow out of the box.
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That's good news. But why'd you choose midiatek?
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That's good news. But why'd you choose midiatek?
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I didn't know that it was Mediatek variant.? I just learned that it was when i installed CPU-Z like one day after I purchased this.?
ermond012 said:
I didn't know that it was Mediatek variant. I just learned that it was when i installed CPU-Z like one day after I purchased this.
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Oh, that's neither you are unfortunate nor fortunate since the snapdragon variant has only 1GB of ram though I'm not sure about that..
raizor6th said:
Oh, that's neither you are unfortunate nor fortunate since the snapdragon variant has only 1GB of ram though I'm not sure about that..
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Agree.? this is my first time to use a Mediatek variant so i do not know anything abt Mediatek devices like if they get frequent updates like the Snapdragon ones.?
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Agree. this is my first time to use a Mediatek variant so i do not know anything abt Mediatek devices like if they get frequent updates like the Snapdragon ones.
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Mediatek is also a popular chip set used by some large smatphone manufacturers and is been doing great contribution to developers since there were many mediatek devices with a number of custom rom have been developed. And it is too early to expect updates at the moment maybe later next month ?.
I'm still comparing this device with lenovo a7000+, asus zenfone max.
Maybe you can help me decide ?
Hopefully LG will give more updates to K10.?
I don't know abt Lenovo but I was choosing between this and Zenfone Max as well. What i like abt Max is its battery but honestly I do notnlike the UI of ASUS.? also the screen of K10 is better than Max's. When it comes to camera functionality, Max is better as it offers more modes though not sure abt the image quality. Is Max a midrange?
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Hopefully LG will give more updates to K10.
I don't know abt Lenovo but I was choosing between this and Zenfone Max as well. What i like abt Max is its battery but honestly I do notnlike the UI of ASUS. also the screen of K10 is better than Max's. When it comes to camera functionality, Max is better as it offers more modes though not sure abt the image quality. Is Max a midrange?
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Definitely max is in mid range device. I agree with the elegant design of k10 i hope that the battery can be replace by higher capacity.. I'm planning to buy this phone on may.
Just received mine 2 days ago, bought on eBay from Taiwan (needed the 700mhz freq for Telstra woohoo).
Going by CPU-Z mine is an Octacore MediaTek MT6753 1.30GHz with GPU Mali - T720, 2GB ram.
For the price $249au - posted, its an awesome phone. I do agree with some reviews about the dullish screen, but its not a dealbreaker for me.
4G Telstra works fantastic, havent taken a lot of camera shots as the weather has been average here atm.
I did an AnTutu benchmark, 35516.
Antutu and CPU-Z pics below..
I've LTE version and the chipset is MT6753 with 2GB RAM. It comes with marshmallow. Couldn't find time to test battery life. I'll try to build CM13 as soon as possible. Mine model is K430TR.
EDIT: @firthy , what's that new button on navbar? I don't have it.
berkantkz said:
I've LTE version and the chipset is MT6753 with 2GB RAM. It comes with marshmallow. Couldn't find time to test battery life. I'll try to build CM13 as soon as possible. Mine model is K430TR.
EDIT: @firthy , what's that new button on navbar? I don't have it.
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For Dual SIM, if you want to change the default SIM you will use.
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For Dual SIM, if you want to change the default SIM you will use.
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Got it. I've single sim variant so I don't have. I thought something like it is for NFC.
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Got it. I've single sim variant so I don't have. I thought something like it is for NFC.
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Nice... Mine is a Dual variant... Unfortunately, K10 does not support NFC...?
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Hi, I have 2 questions for people who have the DSY variant. Can you put 128gb micro sd on it? I read the spec on the net that it only supports up to 32 gb. Is it right?
Also, is this mediatek chipset faster than snapdragon 800? Can someone tell me as I am really new about this.
thanks ....
I'll be getting it in 2 weeks... as I already pre order it...
stingbandel said:
Hi, I have 2 questions for people who have the DSY variant. Can you put 128gb micro sd on it? I read the spec on the net that it only supports up to 32 gb. Is it right?
Also, is this mediatek chipset faster than snapdragon 800? Can someone tell me as I am really new about this.
thanks ....
I'll be getting it in 2 weeks... as I already pre order it...
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It says on GSMArena that it's expandable up to 32gb of SD card only but some users say it can read 64gb SD card. Not sure with the 128gb one.
I am using the Mediatek variant and I can say that it's very smooth. Not sure with the Snapdragon variant.
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