Do we need GooglePlayservices.apk? - Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I've removed the GooglePlayservices.apk from my phone and not one of the Google apps has lost functionality. What is it used for?
A message comes up in YouTube when I first open it after wiping cache saying I need GooglePlayservices.apk or it won't work but I dismiss it and it works fine.
Also Google search bar says it needs it to work...... It doesn't.
Anyone know what it says ACTUALLY used for?
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Obagleyfreer said:
I've removed the GooglePlayservices.apk from my phone and not one of the Google apps has lost functionality. What is it used for?
A message comes up in YouTube when I first open it after wiping cache saying I need GooglePlayservices.apk or it won't work but I dismiss it and it works fine.
Also Google search bar says it needs it to work...... It doesn't.
Anyone know what it says ACTUALLY used for?
Sent from my GT-I9505 whilst taking a s**t
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Hi There,
Google Play services is used to update Google apps and apps from Google Play. This app gives you access to Google Settings and helps apps speed up offline searches. So this is basically the gateway between you're apps and google play store. Most off the apps we install uses this app to connect to the play store to check for their updates. If not found the apps (especially google apps) may result in an error or FC.
It doesn't take up that much space or resources. So you may as well keep it.
Hope that helped

He can't keep it. He's deleted it. Ha.

I've disables this app because even if it does not take a lot of space, it is running in background and consuming RAM, CPU and internet data.
Everything works fine without it.

Jaquesels5 said:
Hi There,
Google Play services is used to update Google apps and apps from Google Play. This app gives you access to Google Settings and helps apps speed up offline searches. So this is basically the gateway between you're apps and google play store. Most off the apps we install uses this app to connect to the play store to check for their updates. If not found the apps (especially google apps) may result in an error or FC.
It doesn't take up that much space or resources. So you may as well keep it.
Hope that helped
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I can still see updates available for apps in Google Play without googleplayservices though...........So I don't think you're correct about apps using it to check for updates, they all still work the same.
I've never had one force close since removing it and I can update all my Google apps perfectly fine.
That's why I'm asking, it seems like a pointless app.
It just runs in the background using up RAM and battery.

The processor overhead of looking for it and generating errors and going to the play store may use more battery. Not 100 percent sure though. I'll check. Seems similar to deleting cache /killing a thread takes more to rebuild than leave alone.
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[Q] Maps always on (CM10)

Has anyone else the problem that google maps constantly turns itself on in the background and starts collecting memory?
Everytime I used my phone some time and I look up active apps, there is maps with about 60mb ram. And this when ram is scarce anyway and apps constantly have to be loaded new? The process in question is com.google.android.apps.maps, but the process that nees so much ram very often is com.google.android.apps.maps:GoogleLocationService .
I disabled every location based feature I could find, therefore I see no reason at all for maps to run. I am thinking about uninstalling maps, but I use it sometimes..
Any hints?
Edit : This keeps constantly popping up in my logcat:
E/KeyguardStatusView( 2992): ERROR: Could not get Location code
W/System.err( 2992): java.lang.NullPointerException
W/System.err( 2992): at com.android.internal.policy.impl.KeyguardStatusViewManager$1$1.run(KeyguardStatusViewManager.java:334)
Disabling the weather widget solved this, maps however still turns itself on. I can not be the only one affected by this?
Moved to Q&A.
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bump. nobody else has this problem? I can not believe this!
I had this problem.....as a workaround , I use titanium backup to freeze the app and defrost it when needed.
Or use other apps like sygic maps where you can use offline maps....and of course uninstall google maps.
kapil_dheer said:
I had this problem.....as a workaround , I use titanium backup to freeze the app and defrost it when needed.
Or use other apps like sygic maps where you can use offline maps....and of course uninstall google maps.
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I uninstalled it because I need the memory for other applications, drives you mad when every new app you go to has to load and then the old one again when you go bad. I am wondering why there is no bigger response, I found no way to stop maps without uninstalling.
Surely somebody else encountered this problem?
ArRaY92 said:
I uninstalled it because I need the memory for other applications, drives you mad when every new app you go to has to load and then the old one again when you go bad. I am wondering why there is no bigger response, I found no way to stop maps without uninstalling.
Surely somebody else encountered this problem?
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I had the same problem and uninstalled it with titanium backup but I keep the backup just in case, I also already had Sygic installed and use that much better for NAV anyways.
N!TRO said:
I had the same problem and uninstalled it with titanium backup but I keep the backup just in case, I also already had Sygic installed and use that much better for NAV anyways.
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I acknowledge this is a valid solution, albeit not one I would like to use.
I love maps and want to keep using it, but this memory consumption kills it for me.
maybe try the app autostarts...
same thing happened with me it consumes more memory from Ram. I recently updated to Google maps latest one and the problem has arrived . Before on old Google maps when i stopped the process it won't run until next when i open the app . But when i updated to latest Google maps it runs at background although i stopped and it again starts automatically. So i decided to uninstalled it to save more ram for my other applications.
shenoyjoseph said:
when i updated to latest Google maps it runs at background although i stopped and it again starts automatically.
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Gemini App Manager is a good tool for disabling autostarts for apps that won't stay dead. You need to be careful with it, though, as you can break stuff eg stop Google Play from auto-running and you won't get automatic app updates.
I recently saw an app in play store that would auto-defrost an app when you click on it, run it, nd when closing, freeze it again, all on the fly. Stop that map sucker dead n its tracks until you really need it.
Unfortunately I can't remember the name. You will have to search.
[edit] Root Uninstaller.

Do you install gapps package (Google Apps) ?

Often ROM's instruct you to install the gapps package (http://goo.im/gapps ), which adds a collection of Google Apps. I'm often surprised that more people don't know, even sometimes Rom Developers themselves, that you don't always need them.
In fact not installing them, saves not only space, but ram & cpu usage. You end up with a faster device. Everything you need is already added in almost every standard Rom (including Chameleon OS for example).
For example, checking Gmail. You don't need Gmail App. The normal e-mail program that comes with Android already supports Gmail (and other e-mail providers).
You also don't need Google Search. The stock browser already uses it when you search. You save about 20 MB Ram (sometimes more, depending on which Rom you use), by not having Search on the desktop.
About the only con (drawback) is if you're flashing a phone, you're going to want or need gapps as that includes the voice commands (if I recall correctly). But if that's something you feel you can live without or don't need (because you have a tablet or maybe you don't use them on your phone), then not installing gapps can make things easier.
So do you install gapps (Google Apps)?
Actually, for some custom roms, in order for all the features to work, you need to flash Gapps. But for most you dont need. I have never had any bad things from flashing or not flahsing. But i always do flash so i can sync my purchases and apps.
I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
Guitarman2010 said:
I never flash the Gapps packages for any ROM I use. I only will add the Google Play Store, Google Services Framework and the Account Manager (for JB). All those Google apps are pointless and like stated earlier, will bog down the battery life and performance. Usually I will freeze the Play Store and such when not using them.
Its quite easy to put the required apps in the /system/app folder, set permissions correctly and reboot to get ONLY the Google Play Store. Of course you will need a root explorer like app to do this.
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Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
Socially Uncensored said:
Every ROM I've ever used had Google Play already installed. I believe Framework and Account Manager are already inside as well. So I've not needed to track down the actual app for it.
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Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
Guitarman2010 said:
Sometimes I'll get lucky and the Play Store is preloaded like SBlood's CM7. I usually use twa_priv's ROMs as my primaries in which I most always have to add Google Play, except I think the latest release (4-19-13), I believe that had it built in.
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Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
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Google Play store updates its self. So no matter which version you installed, it will be current sooner rather than later.
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I am well aware of that but thanks for mentioning it as maybe it will enlighten other users
I use this Gapps package. It is light apps and RAM usage.
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I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
votinh said:
I think some of you have misunderstood the Gapps.
AFAIK, every AOSP-based ROM will have separate Gapps. Some REQUIRED, some not. You can choose to install or not. NOTE: if you won't install Gapps, you WON'T get Google Play.
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That's not true or at least its not try with the ROMs I use. Google's app store is there without me having to add all the extras that come with Gapps
tobiascuypers said:
Or connection to google services. If you do not flash Google Apps, you get nothing google (beside the software) so your wifi signal, will always be grey, instead of that nice blue. Thats the reason why i flash, that grey bugs me, I only want the blue colour(;
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Also not true. I have a nice Wifi signal without Gapps. I also connect to my Gmail using the stock e-mail problem.
This was posted using the stock browser without gapps installed.
Well, seeing this thread, I've tried freezing several system apps on my devices. After freezing backupconfirm and sharebackup, apps seems to open up faster and the device snappier..
I used to install gapps every time, now I usually dont. I like the email app in JB a lot better than the gmail app. Usually install the play store and maps
I like the maps and play store hate the gmail
I find that installing gapps, especially Google play services causes more bugs
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Had no idea!!!!!!!!!
hey guys,thanks for this post i was under the impression I HAD NO OTHER CHOICE...every time i have asked this in a specific rom ...always told to read the beginning of the 1st post on how to install before i post.....maybe wasnt making myself clear..thanks for answering my question...time to experiment !!!!!!!! :good::good::good::good:
Does anyone know exactly what Google flavored apps are required for the just the Play Store to function properly?
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I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
paulsonmcreilly said:
I install gapps everytime because I am always getting new apps. It is interesting to hear that it isn't needed and can make things snappier if you don't need to download new apps.
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I want to know exactly which ones are absolutely necessary so I can either remove or freeze the ones I don't need. I'm all about battery life and performance
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"Google Services" High Data Usage

I'm very confused with my wife's N4. "Google Services" has used ~1.5GB of data in the last 3 days. My wife uses her phone for facebook and texting. She doesn't have any data heavy apps. Any ideas on what do to stop this from continuing?
Maybe try turning off location services or maybe try backing up everything and do a factory reset?
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terpin32 said:
Maybe try turning off location services or maybe try backing up everything and do a factory reset?
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That was my next option, but I'd rather not have to go through that. Anyone else have anything? Are there apps that could tell me which "google service" was the data hog?
BurtonSnol3order said:
That was my next option, but I'd rather not have to go through that. Anyone else have anything? Are there apps that could tell me which "google service" was the data hog?
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I am having the same problem. I just tried disabling app data sync under Google account settings. Let's see if that helps... I use Titanium backup to back up apps and app data anyways...
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ShinnAsuka said:
I am having the same problem. I just tried disabling app data sync under Google account settings. Let's see if that helps... I use Titanium backup to back up apps and app data anyways...
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I tried doing that, and disabiling background data for it through battery manager, but that eliminates all google sync. I eventually just backed things up and moved on to a newer rom. Like I said, it is my wife's phone and didn't feel like trying to figure out the root cause. If it were my phone, I'd be more patient. Hopefully you can find an answer. 500MB a day is nuts. Glad we're on "unlimited" with StraightTalk.
My brother and I just got the same problem as well. He has been on Paranoid for over 3 months and just yesterday Google Services used up 1.5gb out of no where (in a few hours). Just today, im on Carbon, my Google Services used up 500mb (in a few hours). Thankfully, I noticed that my battery was going too fast so I went in and turnd off background data for Google Services.
Any one have an idea of what is going on?
I noticed this problem on my phone a couple of weeks ago and asked about it here. Unfortunately no one knows what's really going on.
BurtonSnol3order said:
I'm very confused with my wife's N4. "Google Services" has used ~1.5GB of data in the last 3 days. My wife uses her phone for facebook and texting. She doesn't have any data heavy apps. Any ideas on what do to stop this from continuing?
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Install better battery stats app. It will tell you which app is the culprit
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System Update Issue
I've noticed this same issue since i updated all my Google Play applications last 07/30. Before the update, I did not have this high bandwidth consumption.
Anyways, i've been researching in my phone and tried the following solutions:
First, I restricted Google Services background data, this did not work, it was still consuming my data. So I kept researching and found something interesting, i went to About Phone - System Update, and noticed my phone was consistently trying to update to 4.3 JB (which is 183 MB), and after the download was complete, then a "verification failed" error message was displayed.
At this point, i thought, This is probably the cause i've been losing all of my data. I am running ParanAndroid along with franco kernel for some time, maybe this is the reason the update is failing.
So, a rough solution i did to this meanwhile: Go to Settings -> Apps -> All and disable Google Services Framework, this will ensure that the update is not constantly being downloaded, however, many Google applications will have issues.
Guys I am facing such extremely annoying Google Services (DownloadManager in BBS) battery drain + mobile/wifi data usage issue and I have been searching for some hours.
First of all I have tried the most answered solution - clearing the data of all those stuffs related to Google Services - well it did not work so well.
Then I don't think freezing download manager / factory reset / restrict background data / disabling google services framework are good solutions as I myself did not make changes related to this recently so a factory reset should not be needed, plus the other mentioned solutions would cause syncing issues with Google and this doesn't suit my lifestyle of heavily depending on various google services.
Many of you have proposed that the massive download / repeated downloads are related to downloading the 4.3 OTA and that might be possible according to the similar file sizes as well as logcats you have found. But on the other hand one of the solution - disabling Network Locations settings has also stopped the "download" triangle from constantly staying there when my wifi is on. Therefore we can conclude that it is partially related to the 4.3 OTA download which cannot be disabled on our custom ROMs, as well as partially about the stock Network Location settings.
Fortunately after many posts that do not provide a feasible answer I have found this xda post which addresses the issue related to the Google Play Store 4.1.6. Some of the users have reported that 4.1.10 has fixed the issue and some even said the newest version 4.2.9 is over the internet since 25/7 together with 4.3 update.
Not sure why such critical update did not roll out to the unluckily bunch of us from Google, but I have found the Android Police source about 4.1.10 fixing the "Network Location bug which hogs the battery" and hopefully this will stop the DownloadManager wakelock as well as the crazy battery drain + data drain by Google Services.
I haven't tested this thoroughly because I will probably need a day to check out whether it stops the crazy behaviour but I would just like to share with you guys my founding as soon as possible so you guys can try it out together with me. The latest Google Play Store 4.2.9 apk can be downloaded from Android Police here.
Hope I have helped! Good luck to you and me!
Miasmic said:
Guys I am facing such extremely annoying Google Services (DownloadManager in BBS) battery drain + mobile/wifi data usage issue and I have been searching for some hours.
First of all I have tried the most answered solution - clearing the data of all those stuffs related to Google Services - well it did not work so well.
Then I don't think freezing download manager / factory reset / restrict background data / disabling google services framework are good solutions as I myself did not make changes related to this recently so a factory reset should not be needed, plus the other mentioned solutions would cause syncing issues with Google and this doesn't suit my lifestyle of heavily depending on various google services.
Many of you have proposed that the massive download / repeated downloads are related to downloading the 4.3 OTA and that might be possible according to the similar file sizes as well as logcats you have found. But on the other hand one of the solution - disabling Network Locations settings has also stopped the "download" triangle from constantly staying there when my wifi is on. Therefore we can conclude that it is partially related to the 4.3 OTA download which cannot be disabled on our custom ROMs, as well as partially about the stock Network Location settings.
Fortunately after many posts that do not provide a feasible answer I have found this xda post which addresses the issue related to the Google Play Store 4.1.6. Some of the users have reported that 4.1.10 has fixed the issue and some even said the newest version 4.2.9 is over the internet since 25/7 together with 4.3 update.
Not sure why such critical update did not roll out to the unluckily bunch of us from Google, but I have found the Android Police source about 4.1.10 fixing the "Network Location bug which hogs the battery" and hopefully this will stop the DownloadManager wakelock as well as the crazy battery drain + data drain by Google Services.
I haven't tested this thoroughly because I will probably need a day to check out whether it stops the crazy behaviour but I would just like to share with you guys my founding as soon as possible so you guys can try it out together with me. The latest Google Play Store 4.2.9 apk can be downloaded from Android Police here.
Hope I have helped! Good luck to you and me!
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Hi and thanks for sharing your investigation and findings so far. I looked at my Nexus 4 tonight and saw that it had downloaded 500mb over 3G so I disabled it and started searching for an answer. Definitely looks to be the OTA 4.3 issue, but installing Play Store 4.2.9 has done nothing for me. My phone has just sucked down another 500mb over WiFi under the "Google Play Services" heading and shows no signs of stopping.
I'm running CM 10.1 stable - really need a fix for this because otherwise I can't enable 3G without burning my whole quota in short order.
Darn, had this same problem, in one day 500mb over 3G.... Thats not cool.
Recently installed a new ROM, Cyanogenmod 10.1, and I think I found the problem. The gallery app was synching all photo's on my G+ account it seems.
Hope I nailed it, because we just went on holiday today and I need my data for finding information etcetrea. But I think this is it, as I can view photo's from vacations made decades ago whoile phone is in airplanemode...
Hope this helps others with this problem...
This is exactly the root cause. I've just lost a gig on 3G today. I'm on wifi now and update just keeping download & verification fail loop. I'm on PA Rom.
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Here's how to disable the OTA download on any ROM
Install Autorun Manager from the Play store.
Then enter its recommended advanced mode.
Go into the settings and enable the following : system entries and system app disable.
Disable com.android.gsf.update.SystemUpdateService$Reciever under Google Service Framework
It would be great if the OP could be updated with this
lorolouis said:
http://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/mobile/rLrhgZUpmIg
Find "Disable Service" application from Play Store.
Turn Off only the SystemUpdateService from Google Services Framework
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You can try this
It is definitely something to do with the 4.3 update. I was on PA 3.6 (Android 4.2.2) and had this problem. After upgrading my phone to Android 4.3 on the latest PA, I no longer have this issue. I think it is a problem in the ROM where they tried to remove the OTA feature, but instead it still tries to download the ROM via 3G in the background. Don't quote me on the above, but that is the only thing that makes sense to me!
Since I've reached my limit for the month (and I'm not even half way through doh), I have had to disable Mobile Data otherwise I would have had a hefty bill come through!
Steph

Why is Google Play Services regularly using GPS location?

Anyone else notice that Google Play Services is regularly using GPS location, even when you have no app open? Why? Is it Google, OnePlus, or some rogue app? How can I find out who is tracking me?
I get the same thing also.
Even when my phone is not being used I see the notification pop up and wake up the phone.
FYI, I think it may be the Google app*. I've disabled it and I have yet to see this happen. Will update if I learn more.
Disabling that app means you can't use Google's smart assistant or quick search features... but I don't care for those anyway.
*The app that is literally called Google.
Play Services checks GPS on a regular basis and then feeds that info to other apps when they request it.
Just disable the notification.
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Play Services checks GPS on a regular basis and then feeds that info to other apps when they request it.
Just disable the notification.
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Disabling the notification does nothing to solve the problem.
It isn't a problem, it's by design.
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It isn't a problem, it's by design.
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Maybe you are okay with an app constantly pinging your GPS. I'm not... especially when I don't know what app is doing it.
Update on disabling the Google app: I have yet to see Google Play services using GPS after I disabled the Google app. As an added bonus, battery use by Google Play services is down, whereas it typically is in the top 3.
I get this too. It's most likely related to Location History.
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I get this too. It's most likely related to Location History.
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Maybe, but Location History is disabled for me across all my accounts.
You guys that don't like Google should check out NanoDroid. It uses micro G and a lot of Google alternative apps. Think of it as a Gapps without the G.

Suddenly apps crashing; wipe storage to fix... seems to be Google issue

Hi folks,
I've got a stock 6013, fully up to date on Android 10, never rooted or anything, and suddenly the Gmail app started crashing. Every time I would open it, it would crash within a second. At first I thought it was just that app. I wiped storage for Gmail, and things seemed back to normal. Then I noticed certain other apps... but ONLY CERTAIN APPS... started doing the same thing. Wiping their storage restored them. Even going into the Google Search bar results in a crash within a second or two.
It's not a hardware fault... I just finished a half an hour of Angry Birds 2 ( ) with no problems. But now Gmail is acting up again. Tapatalk was a problem once, but clearing its storage restored it and it seems stable.
Anybody else seeing very weird repeated app crashes that happen within a second or so of starting said app?
Marc
I'm having the exact same problem. This started 4-5 hours ago. Before noon PDT, a game I was playing worked fine, but by 1pm, I saw the same symptoms. Gmail is also crashing for me, as well as Oxygen Updater and the Amazon Shopping app.
Clear system cache.
Try using factory load for gmail and Google Play Services. Clear the latter's data.
Delete Google account and recreate if the above doesn't work.
Google Play Services is probably the culprit.
blackhawk said:
Clear system cache.
Try using factory load for gmail and Google Play Services. Clear the latter's data.
Delete Google account and recreate if the above doesn't work.
Google Play Services is probably the culprit.
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Thanks. Did that and went through https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/9037938?hl=en as well. Once that was done, uninstalling and reinstalling the offending apps seems to get them working. It was definitely Google Play Services throwing a huge tantrum. I haven't messed with Gmail yet, but Pocket Casts and Amazon shopping are back up after uninstall/reinstall. Thanks!
meowingtv said:
Thanks. Did that and went through https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/9037938?hl=en as well. Once that was done, uninstalling and reinstalling the offending apps seems to get them working. It was definitely Google Play Services throwing a huge tantrum. I haven't messed with Gmail yet, but Pocket Casts and Amazon shopping are back up after uninstall/reinstall. Thanks!
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Doesn't hurt anything to clear Google Play Services data, I do it weekly.
I also package block it except as needed like for Gmail.
Disable Google Firebase if you don't use it; data miner and a resource hog.
blackhawk said:
Doesn't hurt anything to clear Google Play Services data, I do it weekly.
I also package block it except as needed like for Gmail.
Disable Google Firebase if you don't use it; data miner and a resource hog.
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Looks like this problem is happening to more than a few people. Yikes!
meowingtv said:
Looks like this problem is happening to more than a few people. Yikes!
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Not good
I rarely update OS's anymore, even with app updates I keep backup copies of the older version(s) if needed.
Since Q, Google has been on a downward spiral with Android. I'm not impressed.
As long as I have a fast, stable platform that fullfills its mission, I leave it be.
Even a malware forced factory reset be less time consuming then trying to adapt to Google's concept of "improvement".
Thanks folks. It was the issue @meowingtv cited. Last night I found a temporary fix was to roll back the Android System Web Viewer app, which I did. This morning I saw the all-clear that it was ok to re-update it and Chrome at the same time. All good now, but this was a SERIOUS CLUSTER.

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