Moving from GNex to N4 ... titanium? - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

My N4 is on the way after the price drop and i was wondering.. can i do a titanium app backup on my gnex and then restore on the N4?
with no issues (i will be installing paranoid android on it also)

I was just wondering this same thing. I've got a Nexus 7 'flo' waiting for me at home, waiting to be opened, which brought this question to my attention this afternoon. I figured I'd just try it and see what happened, what could go wrong? I assume it'd be fine anyway, I can't think of why it wouldn't be, but maybe wait for someone else who knows more about it to answer, or heck, wait until tomorrow and I'll let you know if it worked for me.

You can indeed try it and see whay happends but I don't think it's a good idea. Alot of roms recommend you NOT to restore your data with Titanium when switching roms while you not only switch roms, but a whole other phone.
You can still try it though, just to be sure make a nandroid backup first.
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failly said:
You can indeed try it and see whay happends but I don't think it's a good idea. Alot of roms recommend you NOT to restore your data with Titanium when switching roms while you not only switch roms, but a whole other phone.
You can still try it though, just to be sure make a nandroid backup first.
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Oh i never restore apps and data, just apps... would that cause issues?

i restored my gnex titanium backup on my n4 and n7, apps only, no issues. before that, i restored my titanium backup from my nexus s to my gnex

You could also do an adb b/u.
When I migrated from the GN to the N4 I did this:
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adb backup -all -nosystem -shared -apk
It will b/u your sd card contents as well and adb can restore MOST apps. There are some however that have to be installed before they can be restored, but this will also copy your TiBU folder (-shared) tag, so...

Gamma Ray said:
Oh i never restore apps and data, just apps... would that cause issues?
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Worst that could happen if restoring data that won't work or is corrupt would be some force closes I think so not really serious issues but irritating issues.
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if you do get fc's from an app for restoring a titanium backup, go to the phones main settings, apps, then find that app and clear its data. it always fixes those fc's.

Yeah, I did a Titanium back up and restore from the Galaxy Nexus to the Nexus 4 a long time ago. Didn't have any problems. Just make sure to only restore app data and not system data.
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Help!rooted 2.3.4 restore problems!

I'm trying to restore apps but i keep getting force closes,anything I try to restore always end up in a force close after restoration
If not resolved, I recommend people wait for ota update. Too many [email protected]
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Cat_On_Droid said:
I'm trying to restore apps but i keep getting force closes,anything I try to restore always end up in a force close after restoration
If not resolved, I recommend people wait for ota update. Too many [email protected]
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If you're restoring with titanium backup try to only restore app and not app+data. The data part might conflict with the new FW as it's a higher build number.
Don't think it has anything to do with the posted .ftf file nor the method in updating.
Regards Dousan...
I'm restoring using my backup root. Damnit.. I have so much data: (
Is there any way to bypass ?
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Your right dousan!!!data conflict is Persisistant !what can I do???
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Cat_On_Droid said:
Your right dousan!!!data conflict is Persisistant !what can I do???
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If you're restoring data from a nandroid i would then flash the doomlord kernel that matches the FW build on the nandroid. Then i would restore the nandroid and then download titanium backup and do a back up with that. Then upgrade to the state where you are now and use the TB to restore apps without data
Regards Dousan...
e: Just reread your post and saw that I missed the app you are using to restore. In that case it would be helpfull if you had a recent nandroid. Afaik My backup root can only restore one way and that's app+data at once and nothing else.
e2: You could do the above, flash kernel and firmware that matches your backup from my backup root. When flashed then restore the backup from my backup root and then download TB and do a backup with that. Then return to current state you have at the moment and restore with TB using only app option when doing so.
So I don't get any data -_-?
Edit, wrong, myroot does it threeway
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Cat_On_Droid said:
So I don't get any data -_-?
Edit, wrong, myroot does it threeway
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Yes without data or atleast do one at a time to check if it FC's.
Edited my post above.
Regards Dousan...
So I don't get any data back? I have both tb and myroot. I use my root because I don't have tbpro to restore all at once
No data? Boooo...
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Hey there is no data conflict, that's for sure.
I flashed the ftf file with the "Wipe user data" option UNCHECKED. All my apps, data, contacts, messages remained as they were without any single conflict or FC anywhere.
Besides, I restored many apps via Titanium now and then. They worked fine.
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Maybe it's a problem with MyBackup root. try mybackup Pro.
OK I restored some data, and it worked fine
Strange...
I may not wipe user data next time....
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I've used TB alot and have now and then encountered FC'ing when restoring both app+data when jumping build numbers in FW/custom roms.
Games from gameloft just acts weird at some points when restoring from TB with data aswell.
It still could be a data conflict as i've seen people upgrading the same custom roms on the same phones and some get that FC'ing when they don't wipe data and some don't and some get's it when restoring with app+data and then some don't. So it might still be worth restoring one at a time to see wich has a conflict.
Regards Dousan...
Am thinking of not wiping data and return to 233 and restore my vadass apps and data!
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Hey there is no data conflict, that's for sure.
I flashed the ftf file with the "Wipe user data" option UNCHECKED. All my apps, data, contacts, messages remained as they were without any single conflict or FC anywhere.
Besides, I restored many apps via Titanium now and then. They worked fine.
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Maybe it's a problem with MyBackup root. try mybackup Pro.
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You mean we can flash the 2.3.4 ftf file even w/uncheck wipe user data, and all those apps will still work perfectly? Hmmm, seems like I will get this 2.3.4 now.. The reason why I don't flash is because of the restoring problem also, the last time I did that, it took me 3-4 days to download all data files again.. Maybe nextime I will just do a backup of the apk using mybackup root and I will just backup my sdcard files to my PC..
But oh, I will lose root since my BL is still locked, I will not be able to flash the rootxperia.. Maybe I'll just wait for OTA then.. Tsk..

Restoring backup of old device to new device

Will it work?
Yes. If it's the same device!
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kboya said:
Yes. If it's the same device!
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Vague, but it's a replacement. Please verify
cmg5461 said:
Vague, but it's a replacement. Please verify
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I tried this!!! I do not suggest it!!! Nothing went.. wrong per say.. everything restored nicely and I went on my way, but it had more lag spikes, it had random freezes while screen was off that required a reboot, and biggest of all, it semi corrupted the sdcard partition so it couldn't be accessed, I ended up just wiping my device and starting fresh, works fine now to wipe I suggest locking boot loader and reunlocking to get it really well wiped. For the record my restore was with only data which a Dev deemed safer than a full restore but sadly as he suspected, there were problems. You can I think use titanium backup on non system apps pretty safely though
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My answer was as specific as your 'question'. Assuming it is N7 to N7, with both in near identical states (I.e. ROM, apps, wipes etc) then it should work. However, restoring data is usually a hit-miss affair and YMMV.
'Old' and 'new device', as you stated, only make complete sense to you and the many mind readers and/or voyeurs and stalkers
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kboya said:
My answer was as specific as your 'question'. Assuming it is N7 to N7, with both in near identical states (I.e. ROM, apps, wipes etc) then it should work. However, restoring data is usually a hit-miss affair and YMMV.
'Old' and 'new device', as you stated, only make complete sense to you and the many mind readers and/or voyeurs and stalkers
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Well we are in the N7 forum, and asking to restore data from a custom rom to a stock device would just be asking for trouble, lol.
yea golden rule, dont load a backup from one device to a replacement of that same device. apps are fine through titanium backup but dont be loading nandroid backups
I do this all the time across my devices .Restore my CUSTOM TI Backup but you need to selectively choose what to restore. This works ONLY With APPS AND APP DATA. NO SYSTEM APPS OR SYSTEM APP DATA. that is how the sd card becomes currupt. Also if you do a FULL BACKUP SAY OF YOUR PHONE. then selective restore some of it to A Say your tablet with apps and app data. THIS WILL ALSO NOT WORK IN YOUR FAVOR.
FROM the old device . do a backup of APPS ONLY no (some apps will work with apps and app data) THEN Restore that on your tablet or new device . Do not make a full backup of the old device then selectivity restore from it to the new device. This can also cause issues on the new device.
Hope this is not to complicated to understand im no writer.
The above is from my own personal experience with TI BACKUP... The above is how i have been doing it for years.. GOOD Luck
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cmg5461 said:
Well we are in the N7 forum, and asking to restore data from a custom rom to a stock device would just be asking for trouble, lol.
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installed apps . (APPS THAT WAS not part of the rom)this will work just fine to backup and restore.. Even most will restore app data.
The problem comes when restore apps from one device to another where the app when it installs sets itself for the device type . Then restored to a different device type.. The issue with system apps is it could replace some system settings or files during the restore and currupt data or apps.
I just RMA my nexus device.
Used the command "adb backup -apk shared all"
That backed up my entire device and I didn't have to be rooted or have my boot loader unlocked.
Typed in "adb restore backup.ab" on my new device and was right where I left off.
You need the latest android SDK on you PC and you also need to run those commands as administrator.
I have an "adb backup" file from a stock, first-gen Nexus 7 16GB that was damaged. We replaced it with a second-gen Nexus 7 32GB, which has been rooted without touching the bootloader. We're having trouble getting the games to recognize their data when we restore them piecemeal, so I'm wondering if it would be safe to restore the adb backup from the old device to the new device? Are there enough differences to cause problems? If it fails, will I still be able to simply do a factory reset and get the new N7 back to factory specs? We've only had the new one a few days.

Stuck at Samsung logo

Hi all,
I was hoping someone could shed sime light to my situation. I have a rogers S4 and I rooted it via motochopper and it worked fine. Restored all my apps from Titanium backuoband all was well.
This morning my phone then got stuck at the samsung boot screen and I had to wipe data via the stock recovery to get iy working again...
Can anyone tell me why this is happening? This is thr 3rd time this has happened
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My guess would be the titanium backup. As it can mess things up, once in a while.
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linkin275 said:
My guess would be the titanium backup. As it can mess things up, once in a while.
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I would blame TB mess ups more on old data being restored that causes problems, than TB itself.
OP... Are your app backups from a different ROM? If so, then I would try restoring without data. Or fresh app installs.
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are you restoring system apps? or just user apps? if you are restoring system apps or something like the messaging storage, will normally cause problems in TB.
best to just connect to wifi and download all the apps again from playstore.
What I would do is odin back to stock do not restore anything for a day or 2, and monitor it. If it never does it again, then it was your backup, keep in mind some apps that worked on the G3, may not work on the G4.
Yes, this is Titanium, it happenned to me too, remember that doing that is like copying everything in the C: Program Files of a PC, formating the computer and restoring that folder, it might work, but you might end up in a lot of trouble overtime since the OS installs different part everywhere. Use Carbon aka Helium, its a much cleaner way to go
I was restoring apps (with data) and the backups were from older ROMs I used in my nexus 4. I am currently trying a non-rooted method for a few days and see if this problem reoccurs
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UPDATE: so far so good... My setup is currently unrooted and I haven't had this issue appear. I'm gonna root in a few days and monitor it again
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New Nexus Questions

Bout to get my nexus 4, will be dropped off by UPS tomorow. And i have a few questions, if anyone will be kind enough to answer.
Would it be a smart idea to unlock the bootloader and root it with TWRP recovery like the second i take it out of the box so that way i dont have to back anything up?
And then, when i decide to switch to a non stock ROM i will just need Titanium backup to backup my stuff and then im good to go?
Also, one more question, since nexus's dont have SD cards, wont my titanium backups get wiped when i flash a rom?
Thanks
1) Yes it would probably be a good idea to unlock and root right away. That's what I done with my Nexus 7. I didn't install recovery though because I wasn't interested in custom ROMs. If you're going to be flashing things right away then yes install the recovery aswell.
2) Titanium Backup will do that perfectly for you but you could always just make the backup through recovery. As you said you'll be using TWRP it means you can restore data separately from a backup anyway.
3) You don't need to worry about backups being wiped because they're stored in the internal SD. It's essentially just space to make sure important things can still be safe even if you factory reset.
Hope that helps
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Btw I would recommend Helium instead of Titanium Backup for backing up your stuff. Works much more efficiently, at least for me. Helium backs up everything, apps and app data, launcher, WiFi settings, user dictionary, launcher setup, and all your SMS data. I really like it and I've fully replaced Titanium Backup with it.
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Instead of titanium backup use go backup pro and save it to the cloud
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After you root & unlock the device I strongly suggest you play around with the phone for a few days and see how battery is and its performance as well. After those few days if you want you could just install any rom or kernel you want. You'll thank me later. Lol
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1) Yes it would probably be a good idea to unlock and root right away. That's what I done with my Nexus 7. I didn't install recovery though because I wasn't interested in custom ROMs. If you're going to be flashing things right away then yes install the recovery aswell.
2) Titanium Backup will do that perfectly for you but you could always just make the backup through recovery. As you said you'll be using TWRP it means you can restore data separately from a backup anyway.
3) You don't need to worry about backups being wiped because they're stored in the internal SD. It's essentially just space to make sure important things can still be safe even if you factory reset.
Hope that helps
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Btw I would recommend Helium instead of Titanium Backup for backing up your stuff. Works much more efficiently, at least for me. Helium backs up everything, apps and app data, launcher, WiFi settings, user dictionary, launcher setup, and all your SMS data. I really like it and I've fully replaced Titanium Backup with it.
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Instead of titanium backup use go backup pro and save it to the cloud
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After you root & unlock the device I strongly suggest you play around with the phone for a few days and see how battery is and it's performance as well. After those few days if you want you could just install any rom or kernel you want. You'll thank me later. Lol
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thank you all so much! I really appreciate the answers. I will look into all three of those options for backing up my data! Thank you. and the internal sd card thing makes perfect sense so thank you for that explanation. You all have a good day!

Cannot restore data!

Hey guys I need help with my nexus 4! I bought my phone just yesterday and before that I had a jiayu g2 jb 4.1.2, I backed up everything with titanium backup and go backup as well to restore all my data..... I installed so far 3 ROMs and all of them have the same problem, I can restore everything except my app data. I always get errors when restoring with go backup and with titanium backup when i restore data, the app force closes.... Am I doing some wrong? I am updated officially to 4.3 unlocked it, rooted it with wugfresh toolkit
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Hey guys I need help with my nexus 4! I bought my phone just yesterday and before that I had a jiayu g2 jb 4.1.2, I backed up everything with titanium backup and go backup as well to restore all my data..... I installed so far 3 ROMs and all of them have the same problem, I can restore everything except my app data. I always get errors when restoring with go backup and with titanium backup when i restore data, the app force closes.... Am I doing some wrong? I am updated officially to 4.3 unlocked it, rooted it with wugfresh toolkit
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The TiBu backup path should be /Legacy in case of some Roms and /Emulated in case of a few others (PA). Try changing it and then restore the backup
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The TiBu backup path should be /Legacy in case of some Roms and /Emulated in case of a few others (PA). Try changing it and then restore the backup
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I saw I had root problems... The system gave me root access but didn't restore data.... Restarted a couple times and finally restored my app data.... Don't know what's the reason but finally worked! Thank anyways dude
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