Yes! After poor battery life (3-4hrs) I've isolated the issue and LOVE it! - Nexus 7 (2013) General

I was getting horrendous battery life on my new Nexus 7 stock and rooted / custom ROM.
I decided to wipe, install zero apps except Chrome and fire away at the battery. YouTube has streamed 3 hours worth of an HD video and I'm at 72%!!! Nice!!!!
I was using FB and FB messenger, Firefox beta and really that's about it. Needless to say I'll hold off on installing them until they've been optimized with 4.3
~A happy Nexus user

Evolution11 said:
I was getting horrendous battery life on my new Nexus 7 stock and rooted / custom ROM.
I decided to wipe, install zero apps except Chrome and fire away at the battery. YouTube has streamed 3 hours worth of an HD video and I'm at 72%!!! Nice!!!!
I was using FB and FB messenger, Firefox beta and really that's about it. Needless to say I'll hold off on installing them until they've been optimized with 4.3
~A happy Nexus user
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fwiw - i have chrome, fb and ff beta also installed - no battery issues. I dont use FF messenger though.

Its FB. Seriously. Its a horribly written website with horribly written apps. It sucks information all the time.
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I'm sure my battery life would be great with no apps installed too. I'm holding off on wiping mine though, because I'm sure after I root and reinstall my stuff, the battery life will go to crap again.
On my Nexus 7 Google Services has an inordinate amount of keep awake time. So I'm hoping updates will fix the issue.

Ravynmagi said:
I'm sure my battery life would be great with no apps installed too. I'm holding off on wiping mine though, because I'm sure after I root and reinstall my stuff, the battery life will go to crap again.
On my Nexus 7 Google Services has an inordinate amount of keep awake time. So I'm hoping updates will fix the issue.
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I've heard people uninstalling Google Services helps. Might cause issues elsewhere though. I think certain battery savers can limit specific apps from keeping the device awake. Im on CM and my device goes into deep sleep quite often. Like 86% of the time.
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Better battery stats always helps finding the culprit. I had some issues with suspend_backoff and it seems chrome was the issue for me.
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player911 said:
Its FB. Seriously. Its a horribly written website with horribly written apps. It sucks information all the time.
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A thousand times THIS.
If you really want FB install tinfoil. You lose notifications, but it's FBs garbage constant notification polling that is keeping your device awake.

Not trying to defend Facebook but.... Its not like fb doesn't have the option to turn notifications off. Chat availability off. Refresh interval to never. Messenger location off.
At some point no matter how bad the app is it comes down to user error.

albundy2010 said:
Not trying to defend Facebook but.... Its not like fb doesn't have the option to turn notifications off. Chat availability off. Refresh interval to never. Messenger location off.
At some point no matter how bad the app is it comes down to user error.
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It doesn't matter. I turn that crap off and while it probably helps, FB is always eating up tons of memory and keeping the battery drained.
I use APW Widgets, setup a Facebook widget, and click through to the mobile Facebook page using Next Browser. The Facebook app has some perks over this but using this method, I know its not leeching my contacts and mobile usage.
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I believe you as I've had issues like this too with many apps.
What I don't understand is how two people with same hardware, same ROM, install same app, one will have drain and the other doesn't. For example I have FB installed on my N7 2013 and its fine (at least it doesn't pop up in the usage chart if I don't use it).

player911 said:
It doesn't matter. I turn that crap off and while it probably helps, FB is always eating up tons of memory and keeping the battery drained.
I use APW Widgets, setup a Facebook widget, and click through to the mobile Facebook page using Next Browser. The Facebook app has some perks over this but using this method, I know its not leeching my contacts and mobile usage.
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Using memory doesn't = using battery,
With those settings the device should idle perfectly. Assuming the rest of your set up is well behaved of course.
While your device is up and running the process will run time to time but it shouldn't cause any noticeable battery drain.
Don't get me wrong I can go on and on about all the stupid things that app does but set it up that way and you should not suffer any battery issues / drainage.

Once the MBA and CEO Class got their hands on Facebook it was Game Over .....
Most MBA's and CEO's aren't well enough educated to run a technically/scientifically based operation .... Look what happened to Gateway, Yahoo, Dell and almost happened to Apple in the 90's before they brought the Brains back ....
Google is one of the few that haven't went that route which is why they are leading the pack on most things. .... As long as the Brains of Google keep majority share and thus control of Googler I'll stay invested but as soon as the MBA and CEO Class takes ovber (hopefully never) I'll dump all my Google stock just like I did with Yahoo in early 2000 .....
Just look at the Damage the MBA and CEO Class did in the late 90's (The wrongly named Dot Com Bust) and in 2008 ..... Mainly because they are too poorly educated to work the technology and their insane belief in disproven Economic Theories like Supply Side that falls completely to pieces in the Tech World ....

BrianDigital said:
Better battery stats always helps finding the culprit. I had some issues with suspend_backoff and it seems chrome was the issue for me.
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so what did you do about chrome to fix it?

ANigerian said:
so what did you do about chrome to fix it?
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Uninstalled it
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does a battery saver app like juice defender ultimate work or it just wastes 'more' battery?, i don't think my battery is all that great but i do have alot of apps installed
anyone installed snapdragon battery guru app?
gonna try to unistall chrome, but i find its the best looking browser interface for the sites i visit

I'm gonna tell you greenify changed my life, my battery life that is. Try it out and you will not be dissapointed.

an app that has not been used in over a day.. after a reboot yesterday should not be in top ten active apps and have near 7000 wakelocks when all notifications in the app are turned off. so yes, Facebook app sucks more than just itself
still. I'm at 22 hours unplugged, 4 and a half hours screen on time and only at 54% battery... I rate that as good
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cobyman7035 said:
does a battery saver app like juice defender ultimate work or it just wastes 'more' battery?, i don't think my battery is all that great but i do have alot of apps installed
anyone installed snapdragon battery guru app?
gonna try to unistall chrome, but i find its the best looking browser interface for the sites i visit
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I would have recommended JD a few years ago.. its victims abandon ware for almost 2 years.. (never updated for ICS let alone JB) you are better off having tasked handle the same functions.. or just removing apps that are poorly writted
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I haven't had any need yet on my Nexus 7, but I found Gemini App Manager to be a godsend on my Virgin Mobile phone. I can disable all the Intents that apps believe they ought to wake for and just allow them to respond to me actually running them. Much better battery life and more responsive phone without memory cluttered by all the bloatware that believes it needs to run all the time.

cobyman7035 said:
does a battery saver app like juice defender ultimate work or it just wastes 'more' battery?, i don't think my battery is all that great but i do have alot of apps installed
anyone installed snapdragon battery guru app?
gonna try to unistall chrome, but i find its the best looking browser interface for the sites i visit
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I just picked mine up yesterday and snapdragon was one of the first apps I looked for. Couldn't download because it's "not compatible with this version" I'm on stock BTW...
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albundy2010 said:
Not trying to defend Facebook but.... Its not like fb doesn't have the option to turn notifications off. Chat availability off. Refresh interval to never. Messenger location off.
At some point no matter how bad the app is it comes down to user error.
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so your saying that the app by default should run constantly in the back ground grab your location any time it wants. THen its user error that they dont dive in setting and change everything so it doesn't suck battery life
LOL yes its user error, now Im off to sound full of myself elswhere

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Does anyone know how I can find out what's draining my battery?
It goes from 100% to 85% in less than an hour. Just a little facebook and web browsing and it drains. Also when I leave it idle it drains significantly. It'll be great if you guys recommend an app or tips on how to save battery life.
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kingvaj23 said:
Does anyone know how I can find out what's draining my battery?
It goes from 100% to 85% in less than an hour. Just a little facebook and web browsing and it drains. Also when I leave it idle it drains significantly. It'll be great if you guys recommend an app or tips on how to save battery life.
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Need to check your sync settings. How often are your accounts set to sync?
facebook is the culprit... even when it isn't doing anything, it's doing way too much. Log out and see if your battery improves.
I use facebook to sync contact pictures only.... just turn off the facebook notifications by going into the app, menu - settings and check off notifications.
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Big help: use that app disabling method and disable app that you don't use. Biggest culprits are Google bloatwares such as: finance, shopper, listen, my tracks and many more. Also make sure you use a taskiller that works cuz most are crap and just make up fake number of killed apps. (Ask me if you wanna know how to find out if a taskiller works or not)
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funkadesi said:
I use facebook to sync contact pictures only.... just turn off the facebook notifications by going into the app, menu - settings and check off notifications.
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I have mine set to sync contacts only as well... works perfectly fine. Very little drain.
Basically, I agree with you. Don't sync notifications ... manually do that via the app if you want to.
nighthawk626 said:
Big help: use that app disabling method and disable app that you don't use. Biggest culprits are Google bloatwares such as: finance, shopper, listen, my tracks and many more. Also make sure you use a taskiller that works cuz most are crap and just make up fake number of killed apps. (Ask me if you wanna know how to find out if a taskiller works or not)
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Finance isn't really bloatware... it's a good app.
Shopper, listen and my tracks I'll give you. I disabled some of those type apps.
What is a good task killer? Cause I've heard task killers are bad and not necessary on froyo
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I try not to sync
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You don't need a task killer in my opinion. Use the running services tab in application settings to disable anything you don't want running.
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Taskiller is good because I prefer one app running constanly in comparison to 6 or more. The taskiller I use is the one with the red droid icon. To find out if a taskiller is good open it and make sure its not excluded or ignored then click "kill all apps" or whatever. And if the taskiller itself isn't killed then its not worth squat
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i got same situation as you. drain so fast ...can't take it..
now ill try turn auto sync off see what happens
Get a new battery lol look at the accessory sub form we have a thread about extended battery with evo batteries
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Well if you have exchange emails set up then it will drain your battery like no tomorrow and that is the reason i am going to give this phone back to tmobile
vikramdhani said:
Well if you have exchange emails set up then it will drain your battery like no tomorrow and that is the reason i am going to give this phone back to tmobile
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I have exchange setup... what settings do you have?
Exchange is the same on all the Android phones so I'd be curious to hear what you have setup and how.
SuperFly03 said:
I have exchange setup... what settings do you have?
Exchange is the same on all the Android phones so I'd be curious to hear what you have setup and how.
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Exchange email sync has a known problem for high cpu usage. I can't post the link as I'm new, but do a google search for "email sync high cpu" - it's the google.code issue #5424
Please note that there is a workaround that has worked for nearly all users. Set the exchange email sync to "never" or "push". The issue is that with specified time intervals the sync may fail and continue failing, consuming ~50% of your cpu.
I've experienced this myself, and couldn't understand why my phone was so slow till I looked at the processes running and % of cpu usage (via 'top'). I'm experimenting with never-sync and only have a handful of days battery monitoring and guessing I'm getting about 8 more hours out of my battery (again, not empirical data).
edit: I stopped using task-killers after reading up on froyo behavior and more importantly monitoring my cpu usage (again via top). All the apps that were showing "running" in my task-killer were consuming ~0% cpu. They were using memory, but I now leave it up to the OS to manage that. In the end I find that the apps that I didn't want running were eventually automatically stopped by the OS for me.
Can someone tell me the average battery life for the g2? Normally I'm only worried about battery life if I'm gone at work or out and about. Normally I just txt when I'm at work or out with people.
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xamadeix said:
Can someone tell me the average battery life for the g2? Normally I'm only worried about battery life if I'm gone at work or out and about. Normally I just txt when I'm at work or out with people.
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I have G2 my avg battery life is about 36 hours on reg battery casual usage and about 18 hours with heavy usage (i consider heavy usage data streaming from slacker, using phone as modem via wifi router 150 text messages and about 10 calls). setup i have is 2g when NOT using the phone, background data off & auto sync off, email account set for manual sync.
In regards to Task killer they are worthless on froyo devices use Watchdog app it watches for rogue app that are consuming too much power.
I have a evo battery in my current phone right now and I never worry about battery life. i did a little modifications to get it to fit but it works great (make sure you get the red color battery if thats the case, I didnt get the correct battery originally but i ripped everything off the battery it fits and it works).
Reference this thread for the battery.

Battery draining...how and why?

I have no idea what's killing my battery so quickly, and apparently neither does BBS. Any ideas?
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dandaman1219 said:
I have no idea what's killing my battery so quickly, and apparently neither does BBS. Any ideas?
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You already install the market version of play service and disable the carrierIQ processes?
Geekybiker said:
You already install the market version of play service and disable the carrierIQ processes?
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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Check the carrierIQ thread in general. Forget where the detailed play services one is, but if you use TB to uninstall the system play services and then reinstall it from the play store you get less wakelocks.
I installed CleanROM 1.1 on Sunday. Battery life on Monday was excellent. Monday evening I went ahead and disabled CarrierIQ because of the excessive wakelocks (but it didn't really kill my battery). What I don't understand is that BBS is reporting that my phone was in deep sleep when I wasn't listening to music through my headphones or bluetooth. So I don't really know what to make of it, because it was sitting in my pocket for most of the day at work.
Normally I'd still be at like 85% at least. I was hoping someone could shed some light because BBS is not reporting any excessive wakelocks that could drop my battery almost 50% in a 10 hour period with only a little over 10 minutes on screen time and an hour of music playback.
Android status can also shed light on run away processed. Outs in the play store.
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One day and a reboot later (didn't change anything) I get the best standby time I've ever had on an android phone. Weird.
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dandaman1219 said:
One day and a reboot later (didn't change anything) I get the best standby time I've ever had on an android phone. Weird.
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So youre good? lol.
You can also try disabling some that stuff in "Google Settings" and also try the greenify app. Thats what I did and no complaints here
SysAdmNj said:
So youre good? lol.
You can also try disabling some that stuff in "Google Settings" and also try the greenify app. Thats what I did and no complaints here
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I'm not sure. It seems to vary. And I do have/had all the google settings disabled and greenified the problem apps. It's just I couldn't pinpoint anywhere that 46% drain from yesterday.
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I'm not sure. It seems to vary. And I do have/had all the google settings disabled and greenified the problem apps. It's just I couldn't pinpoint anywhere that 46% drain from yesterday.
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Haha, even your "bad" battery day is still pretty good compared to me. I kind of think anything over 10 hours is good.
Right now I'm at 86%, that's 5:51 up, 4:03 deep sleep, 1:48 awake, 0:45 screen on. Which, yes, means my phone has spent over an hour awake without the screen on? Very sad.
One odd thing I notice is that it says I spent 42 minutes with No Data or Unknown Signal. I wonder if that's part of it being Awake? it kept searching?
Other than that I've got 11 minutes of NlpCollectorWakeLock for that 5:51 up.
I'm not complaining, those are still very good numbers. But I feel like lowering that off-screen awake time could take it from very good to great.
Turn off Google Now, toggle Sync off when you don't need it, disable data in areas where you're certain you won't get a signal.
I got 28 hours easy with 12 to go
RiverdALIEN said:
Turn off Google Now, toggle Sync off when you don't need it, disable data in areas where you're certain you won't get a signal.
I got 28 hours easy with 12 to go
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I like Google Now though
How are you turning off just Google Now so readily?
burningembers said:
I like Google Now though
How are you turning off just Google Now so readily?
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doesn't do anything for me i can't do for myself.
I get my sports scores using Team Stream by Bleacher report
We have a beautiful stock weather widget
I use the metro to get to work so IDC about traffic/commute times
I don't fly often so I don't need flight details and reminders
and I don't need suggestions of things to do
Gnow is a battery HOG bro, i'm telling you. I wasn't getting through a single workday with it turned on and now I can go 2 days
Edit: oh and I don't use facebook on my phone because it's also a hog with the constant background services and I use Twicca instead of the standard Twitter app
RiverdALIEN said:
doesn't do anything for me i can't do for myself.
I get my sports scores using Team Stream by Bleacher report
We have a beautiful stock weather widget
I use the metro to get to work so IDC about traffic/commute times
I don't fly often so I don't need flight details and reminders
and I don't need suggestions of things to do
Gnow is a battery HOG bro, i'm telling you. I wasn't getting through a single workday with it turned on and now I can go 2 days
Edit: oh and I don't use facebook on my phone because it's also a hog with the constant background services and I use Twicca instead of the standard Twitter app
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Yeah, you know what I never really thought about it like that. Though I *do* kind of have fun looking at my location dashboard in Google and seeing where I've gone and other metrics.
But you're right, its a huge hog (I'd say I get an extra 5-8 hours without it) and it isn't adding *that* much value.
I Greenify Facebook Beta and Twitter. And for some reason Google Keep keeps getting stuck in a sync loop, so I Greenify that too.
Think I'll clear data on GNow and see if I really notice the loss.
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Yeah, you know what I never really thought about it like that. Though I *do* kind of have fun looking at my location dashboard in Google and seeing where I've gone and other metrics.
But you're right, its a huge hog (I'd say I get an extra 5-8 hours without it) and it isn't adding *that* much value.
I Greenify Facebook Beta and Twitter. And for some reason Google Keep keeps getting stuck in a sync loop, so I Greenify that too.
Think I'll clear data on GNow and see if I really notice the loss.
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I don't know if clearing data turns it off, I just went into it and went to settings and turned it off
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Please explain!!!

Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
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junior_mafioso said:
Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
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if your doing graphic intensive stuff on the internet it will destroy your battery. The fact your chrome used almost as much battery as your screen makes me believe there's something wrong there..
My chrome browsing basically just consists of normal web pages and some embedded videos on news and sports sites. Is that enough to cause that much damage?
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It shouldn't. But just to be sure, whenever you're done using your phone at times you can go into task manager holding down the home button and click the clear memory button under the RAM tab. That will stop all processes from continuing to run when you're done using them
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It shouldn't. But just to be sure, whenever you're done using your phone at times you can go into task manager holding down the home button and click the clear memory button under the RAM tab. That will stop all processes from continuing to run when you're done using them
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I would also consider giving chrome a break and using a different browser to see if you battery life improves. I'm currently using Boat Browser but there are several browsers.
junior_mafioso said:
Ive had a few questions when it comes to my trial with samsung devices and this is where my story starts..
So I have had a mirage of Samsung devices starting with the Note 2, to the Galaxy s4, and now currently the Note 3. I have put as much time and effort as my noob abilities will allow me to and I'm honestly trying to figure out a couple of things. Throughout all these devices in less than one year I have realized that I can only get my battery to supply modest results. I have torn through xda and have done almost every solution out there to in order to increase my battery life. With no impacting results I sit here truly wondering how is it that people can really get more than a day out of these phones. I have honestly never been able to get any of these phones to 5-6 hours screen on time and more than 24 hours off the charger. I evny the people that swear they are heavy users and still get great battery life, but I just dont see how this is possible from my experience...
I would say on a normal day i use the device moderatly and somewhat carefully as to retain the battery life to the fullest. I normally have my phone on WiFi for about half the day but I do browse and do a bit on LTE too. I use all kinds of social apps (twitter, instagram, fb, hangouts for sms, etc) that are all using push notifications. I have a university email that uses exchange and that is push as well. I stream all my music using Google play music daily but also a lot on WiFi. I search the web a lot and use flipboard constantly. I hardly use any games except at home when I know I have my charger. So one of my questions is, does this classify me as a heavy user comparing to all of you people?
I have tried almost everything.. Wake lock detector, turning off absolutely everything location based, app ops, power saver for when I'm at work (8+ hours), turning off all the smart features, low brightness, turning off bloat, etc. But still nothing too spectacular for results. Keep I'm mind I'm all stock and for now I dont really want to change that. So my main question after that long story is, am I missing something? Should I be getting better battery life after all these attempts? Is my battery life ok for how I use my phone? Are there any other options so I can be like the people getting monster battery life?
What made me write this post is because I was at BestBuy and one of the Samsung reps had the same Verizon note 3 that I have. I asked him if I could see his battery stats (which he did not know how to find.. Wow) and his phone had been on for over a day and had 7 hours of screen on time.. It blew me away that he was getting extraordinary battery life and obviously didnt do a thing to try to preserve it.
Keep in mind the battery stats posted are actually some of the best Ive had when it comes to screen on time so usually its dead after about 16 hrs and 3 hrs screen on time.
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Yeah I agree that something just doesn't seem right with Chrome using about as much battery as your screen. Try another browser, make sure you clear your recent apps, and turn off anything that you are not going to be using. I turn off all of the touch sounds and haptic feedback, as well as smart stay and air gestures, etc..I never really seemed to get the battery life that I thought I should be getting whenever I was on the Stock ROM.
Maybe chrome is the culprit but I do clear the ram and close apps all the time.. Its just frustrating that I'm trying everything and nothing seems to be changing much..
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junior_mafioso said:
Maybe chrome is the culprit but I do clear the ram and close apps all the time.. Its just frustrating that I'm trying everything and nothing seems to be changing much..
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I personally like Firefox and Opera Mini, it's a matter of personal preference though. There are a bunch of browsers out there. I also use Battery Doctor and Clean Master to clear cache, junk files and applications running in the background. If your rooted you can download "Greenify" which would probably help you as well.
Xanza89 said:
I personally like Firefox and Opera Mini, it's a matter of personal preference though. There are a bunch of browsers out there. I also use Battery Doctor and Clean Master to clear cache, junk files and applications running in the background. If your rooted you can download "Greenify" which would probably help you as well.
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I have the Greenify Donation app, and love it. Stopped using Chrome because it was tearing my battery life down, using the Stock Browser and Boat Browser at times. Greenify also helps with some other apps that just keep running even though I didn't use them during the day. The only thing I have as an exception, is my Blackberry Messenger to communicate with my family abroad during the day and that app has been behaving nicely. Everything else, minus HD Widgets, has been Greenified, and I can go all day (unplug at 7A, plug back in around 9P with plenty of juice left.
So this is what I get after a long period using wakelock detector. Does anyone have any insight as to what this all means. What does the x538 refer to and how does this app show how it's affecting my phone? One is the CPU wake lock and the other is the screen.
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The 538 is how many times it has woken the phone up (wake lock).
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Is that amount excessive is the question?
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Horrendous Battery Life.

So I see some people on here getting 9+ hours of screen on time on here. That is AMAZING. I know basically everything has to do the user. But I have attached some screenshots with about 30% battery left. I was wondering if anybody could help me out. Or any out of the ordinary tips.
it looks like you're using your phone a lot, and should get over 4 hours of screen on time. Perhaps you can reduce your screen brightness or something, turn off GPS, location reporting etc.
BTW, theres no way anyone would get 9 hours screen on time on a note 3, with reasonable screen brightness. I average 5 hours, less if I'm using more system taxing apps.
I assume if your on xda your rooted. My saving grace is under clocking. I use my tablet for gaming but I have about an two hours of screen on time, four hours of talk time and about an hour of maps and I'm currently sitting at 73%. Also if you don't want to run a custom rom freeze everything you'll never use and greenify everything keeping your phone awake. With light usage I can get 4 days on a charge. As soon as I get money in going to get the 10 mha battery. There is a review on xda where the guy could get 2 days of screen on time and like a day and a half of gps/map usage.
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I would start with quick things to check....disable GPS/location settings, disable Sync altogether(via status bar toggle) if you don't mind not getting your Twitter updates(see it's using 3% of battery in your screenshot), disable NFC if it's on, turn off WiFi and Bluetooth when not connected
Also check out your RED mobile data signal in your screenshot and see if you can fix that, "signal hunting" when your phone doesn't have a good data signal really hurts battery life greatly
Next I would install an app like Wakelock Detector, open it, and change the view to "Wakeup Triggers" and after your phone has lots of time with the screen off, come back to it and see what's causing your phone to "wake up" when it's trying to "sleep" when screen=off
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I assume if your on xda your rooted. My saving grace is under clocking. I use my tablet for gaming but I have about an two hours of screen on time, four hours of talk time and about an hour of maps and I'm currently sitting at 73%. Also if you don't want to run a custom rom freeze everything you'll never use and greenify everything keeping your phone awake. With light usage I can get 4 days on a charge. As soon as I get money in going to get the 10 mha battery. There is a review on xda where the guy could get 2 days of screen on time and like a day and a half of gps/map usage.
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I'll definitely try this. And yup rooted running eclipse. Thanks again
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What do you suggest I under clock to? And what app to do so? Also what about I/o schedulers and governor. And by under clocking you mean lowering the max could rate right? Or the min too.
Here are a few screenshots on my wakelocks after about 10 min.
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Here are a few screenshots on my wakelocks after about 10 min.
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Wow Kik caused 4523 triggers in just 4 hours lmao, and switch that view to "wakeup triggers" is how i gauge it better, but with the view that you're on there...you can tap the name of the app for more info on what it's doing exactly like "Alarmmanager" or w/e the app is doing
Edit: also ditch Google Music if you play music from SDcard/locally like me....i use Beat instead, free app
I use rom toolbox pro and I under clock to 1036 mhz with cfq scheduler and interactive governor. Rom toolbox pro is great at about everything you need to do and greenify pro with xposed features help a lot
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lmike6453 said:
Wow Kik caused 4523 triggers in just 4 hours lmao, and switch that view to "wakeup triggers" is how i gauge it better, but with the view that you're on there...you can tap the name of the app for more info on what it's doing exactly like "Alarmmanager" or w/e the app is doing
Edit: also ditch Google Music if you play music from SDcard/locally like me....i use Beat instead, free app
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I would but I use Google play all access unless you have a good free music downloader to suggest.
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I would but I use Google play all access unless you have a good free music downloader to suggest.
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+1 for beats. I used MOG for a long while before beats bought them out. Combine that with folder mount and I can store all my music to my sd card. To bad I couldn't transfer my music from mog to beats and have not had time to re download but I had about 50 gig of music before the switch over.
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So I see some people on here getting 9+ hours of screen on time on here. That is AMAZING. I know basically everything has to do the user. But I have attached some screenshots with about 30% battery left. I was wondering if anybody could help me out. Or any out of the ordinary tips.
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when I used xposed one of the items must have caused it as after I took them off the battery works fine (two days if I am carefully) charging once at night gives full day (plus) on battery.
Gladyscoleman said:
used you cell phone always battery saving mood.
Always keep lock your cell when you busy
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Uhm... What?!?
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S5 Worst battery ever

Got this phone about 10 days ago and my battery is terrible since day 1, someone suggested to root my phone and get the BBS app and dump a file i did that and installed a system tuner to disable google CHECKIN OR GCM and unchecked them. apps i got installed to help with battery battery doctor, wakelock detector, os monitor, system tuner, gsam battery, betterbatterystats.
Apps i disabled are:
Ant radio service
Ant+ plugins
App zone
Blurbcheckout
chaton
chrome
flipboard
google play book, games, movies, music, newstand , google search, google+ , hangouts
hp print service plugin
my magazine
s health , svoice , samsung account , samsung apps , samsung galaxy apps widget, samsung push service, smart remote , Top Hd Games
got a plain black wallpaper, even after all this i cant get more than 2h30m screentime and everyone is getting 5h+ do i have a defective unit? what are my options right now? cause basically i removed everything the phone has lol. i talk to my workplace and they can send the phone for repair but i want to see if someone can help me before i do that. i have to unroot the phone if i have to send it for repair even though my phone is 0x1 on knox cause i was stupid to root with cf-root and didnt check other methods.
After all that you did, then it sounds like a faulty battery or device.
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How's your signal at work? I'm on 3g at half signal maybe? I get about 3:30 and standby. But when I'm at home WIFI only I get about 4-4:30 it all depends too on how bright your screen is.
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How's your signal at work? I'm on 3g at half signal maybe? I get about 3:30 and standby. But when I'm at home WIFI only I get about 4-4:30 it all depends too on how bright your screen is.
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How do I check if I have a good signal at work? Through an app or through a battery status.
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This system tuner app you used it not any overclocking or something that might drain you battery?
What screen brightness do you use most of the time?
Can you see what use most of your battery? There is charts you can access in settings -> battery
I run with BLAZE kernel and Alliance ROM. (install without any samsung or google bloat if you can)
And I have been using my phone constantly, playing streemed music, installing apps, downloading from internet, browsing internet, having screen active a lot...
And Now I'm at 87% and have been running 1 hour and 38 minutes on battery. (Was at about 100% battery before)
I run +5 screen brightness and don't have any special powersaving features running that limit my experience with the phone.
You could try that kernel and ROM too, I feel they improved my battery time a lot.
I also shut down some samsung and google bloat stuff like air browse, s voice and such crap, saving a little little battery.
Here is my battery info and my brightness level. I have Canadian g900w from Rogers so I am not sure what roms or kernels you can use ?
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kgyirhj said:
This system tuner app you used it not any overclocking or something that might drain you battery?
What screen brightness do you use most of the time?
Can you see what use most of your battery? There is charts you can access in settings -> battery
I run with BLAZE kernel and Alliance ROM. (install without any samsung or google bloat if you can)
And I have been using my phone constantly, playing streemed music, installing apps, downloading from internet, browsing internet, having screen active a lot...
And Now I'm at 87% and have been running 1 hour and 38 minutes on battery. (Was at about 100% battery before)
I run +5 screen brightness and don't have any special powersaving features running that limit my experience with the phone.
You could try that kernel and ROM too, I feel they improved my battery time a lot.
I also shut down some samsung and google bloat stuff like air browse, s voice and such crap, saving a little little battery.
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I posted my info with photos ^ thanks
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Hey, here I have everything turned on and I never followed these stupid extreme battery guides and I easily get over 4 hours of screen time and one day away from the charger. I only use auto brightness, Greenify and KT Kernel.
It's a smartphone, if you're supposed to turn all the features off then you should have bought a dumb feature phone.
Looks like ur using max brightness? Nearly 2 hours screen on time for 44% isnt the best but isnt terrible. I get around 5 to 6 hours using low brightness 3g/4g on besides when screen on. Using android tuner and greenify for tuneing. Screen uses a lot of battery to. Im using. Ktoons kernal now with oc and the batterys probably the same to to me. No beter or worse but. Im running higher clock.
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I also use normal power save eith the greyscale option selected and I have the cpu limited disabled.because ktoons app limits it for me.
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sofia-captivate said:
Here is my battery info and my brightness level. I have Canadian g900w from Rogers so I am not sure what roms or kernels you can use ?
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You're set for almost four hours of screen on time there, on what seems to be very poor mobile signal. Doesn't sound that unrealistic to me to be honest.
Poor mobile signal absolutely kills battery life, as your phone spends the entire time searching and trying to get a better signal.
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Hey, here I have everything turned on and I never followed these stupid extreme battery guides and I easily get over 4 hours of screen time and one day away from the charger. I only use auto brightness, Greenify and KT Kernel.
It's a smartphone, if you're supposed to turn all the features off then you should have bought a dumb feature phone.
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I think his point is that most people get 5-6 hours screen time with everything on and without following the "stupid extreme battery guides". To be honest it looks like you aren't getting great life either if you are only getting 4 hours. I regularly get 6-7 with everything on and no greenify or kernel tweaks
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Here is my battery info and my brightness level. I have Canadian g900w from Rogers so I am not sure what roms or kernels you can use ?
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I see a couple of things interesting with your setup, Speaking from personal experience, I too have had battery issues drive me up a wall. I'd get just about a day on a battery when everyone else gets about 3-9 days more. My friend has an s5 all stock and he gets 9 days on a freaking battery. WTF
I rooted my first s5, with ANCH baseband and still couldn't solve all the issues with it. So I sent it back to t-mo and they sent me another one, getting batteries on ebay has also ended up a wash. 2 batteries I've received go down 20% from a full charge in the first hour and shut completely down at 32 percent at least I got a refund on that. (So be careful about ebay batteries, even though they say samsung.
So looking at yours here's what I see, Your system is staying awake, lets look at wake locks. Kik is really tearing up your machines wakelock (900wake locks) as well as the camera CPU time, i'd imagine you were recording a video at some point.
1. Go get greenify and greenify those Kik, Instagram and camera apps if thats usage while the screen is off. (No notifications on those apps, i'm afraid when you do that.)
2. Go get system tuner, make sure your rooted by towelroot (If you so choose to keep from tripping knox) and go into app mgr and find android system and go through activities, receivers and services and make sure everything you see that says IQAgent gets unchecked. This will help you stay out of ServiceIQ's eyes and also help your battery as your entire phone is debugged through those apps. (Help is on the forums somewhere)
3. Turn off google now, hotword detection and location history or you'll start noticing Google services draining your battery
4. Go get deep sleep battery saver and remove that battery saver, I personally never liked it it only suggests things to do rather than do them for you. At night or whenever you need to save your battery turn on slumber and it will only take like a percent to 5% in the morning
5. You probably have a bad battery, especially if its down to that low. Time to exchange or return
I'm incredibly disappointed, i've had to do all these things to really figure things out, heck i'd be on firefox for about 15 minutes and go down 18% (Happened this morning)
Android really has some issues with kitkat, and even though we try and fix these problems with modifications there comes a point where one just gives up and tries to deal with it.
I don't understand why my phone gets 1.2 days and my co-workers Verizon s5 gets 9 days with normal usage. Everyone seems to have crazy all over the scale battery life results. Heck, i've reset my phone and flashed so many roms that i'd be safe to say that I have yet to have 10 full discharges in the 4 weeks i've had the phone. At the end of the day though, it's mountains better than my iphone 5 with a lenmar battery case.
Wish I could say the same with stability, I'd be on my bike and switch tracks (or try) and stuff just doesn't respond, heck I can't even go with voice activation with wired headphones and that is really a downer for me. I want to be able to hold down the pause and play and get the google now boop boop sound and speak as i'm riding.
I'm tired of this, and google has no answers, the fixes above only seem to add a couple of hours but not the 9 days I was seeing.
Goldie said:
I think his point is that most people get 5-6 hours screen time with everything on and without following the "stupid extreme battery guides". To be honest it looks like you aren't getting great life either if you are only getting 4 hours. I regularly get 6-7 with everything on and no greenify or kernel tweaks
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So? What do you do to have that many hours? Which rom? How often do you recharge? Which apps do you use? That's the point. I never freeze/uninstall anything...
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So? What do you do to have that many hours? Which rom? How often do you recharge? Which apps do you use? That's the point. I never freeze/uninstall anything...
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My rom. With nothing removed or frozen as I have to keep all bloat due to development to check everything. I recharge every night usually with about 20% left and about 5h30 screen on. Using Tapatalk, music, calls, Internet. The usual stuff.
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I get 6-7 hours normal use with the bloatware I never use frozen. And I mean never use.
Gtalk, whatsapp, line, google drive, dropbox, gmail, Yahoo mail, corporate mail, all running. No greenify. No battery saver.
Now playing games is different thing. 2-3 hours max.
My battery is amazing. I keep the screen brightness lower, keep networks and chips off when not using, i use bootmanager to prevent apps from launching ay boot and only 1 active widget. Good for a day and a half of very fair use !
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It's your probleme. Problably you have some stupid apps I'm your phone that you shouldn't have.
Like you see in my picture. My battery it's just fine and there is 2 stupid apps that eat me my battery without do anything
My battery is great too, maybe problem is some apps
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My battery is great too, maybe problem is some apps
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Yup probably, the only flaw with a smartphone is its user

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