[Q] Stock 4.3 / CM 10.1 or wait for 10.2 - Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
I just got a Nexus 4 and love the device. I come from a HTC Sensation and used to run CM.
I am running stock 4.3, non rooted but lack some options.
I would like to ask your advice on what to do, should I;
- Unlock / root and flash CM 10.1? (should I flash a custom kernel?)
or
- Stay on stock until a stable CM 10.2 releases or wont this release for a couple of months?
I dont want to hassle with nightly builds, just want a stable daily driver and dont want to flash every week.
Thanks guys!

Wait for 10.2. Kindle fire CM 10.2 has already been released so I can imagine that it won't be long.
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jji7skyline said:
Wait for 10.2. Kindle fire CM 10.2 has already been released so I can imagine that it won't be long.
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Thanks for your advice.
The CM 10.2 releases are just nightly releases, I do want a stable ROM

knoeperd said:
Thanks for your advice.
The CM 10.2 releases are just nightly releases, I do want a stable ROM
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I hope you do realize that even nightly releases are quite stable on the Nexus 4? Unless you're doing some hardcore mission critical work, I'd say 10.2 nightlies are just as stable as 10.1
I'm not one of those flashaholics who will flash broken builds and half broken features just to have the latest new gimmick, so when I'm telling you it's solid, I mean it. CM10.2/Android 4.3 does have its issues, and I'd say the biggest is the battery drain issue that has to do with location services. If you're willing to disable half the features of location services, then the issue is less apparent, but to me 10.2 is good enough for me to run as a daily driver. I'd say the issue is more of an Android 4.3 rather than a CM 10.2 issue. So even if you go with a stable ROM like AOSP, you're doomed with battery the same as CM.

dmo580 said:
I hope you do realize that even nightly releases are quite stable on the Nexus 4? Unless you're doing some hardcore mission critical work, I'd say 10.2 nightlies are just as stable as 10.1
I'm not one of those flashaholics who will flash broken builds and half broken features just to have the latest new gimmick, so when I'm telling you it's solid, I mean it. CM10.2/Android 4.3 does have its issues, and I'd say the biggest is the battery drain issue that has to do with location services. If you're willing to disable half the features of location services, then the issue is less apparent, but to me 10.2 is good enough for me to run as a daily driver. I'd say the issue is more of an Android 4.3 rather than a CM 10.2 issue. So even if you go with a stable ROM like AOSP, you're doomed with battery the same as CM.
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Thanks, I didnt realise this, the experience I had with nighly releases is not that good. After reading this I am considering to flash 10.2

I tried 4.3 and liked it quite a bit but I decided to stay on my favourite ROM (not cm but sabermod) on 4.2.2 until it gets updated to 4.3
and I haven't looked back

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So will Cyanogen Mod move to CM11 ?

With the new Nexus 4, will the Cyanogen Mod team have to start fresh with new Nightly's CM11 based off Android 4.2 ? How long until those first Nightly's are available to flash ? Few days after Nexus 4 release, or we talking weeks a month ?
Zorachus said:
With the new Nexus 4, will the Cyanogen Mod team have to start fresh with new Nightly's CM11 based off Android 4.2 ? How long until those first Nightly's are available to flash ? Few days after Nexus 4 release, or we talking weeks a month ?
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Probably a solid month, I don't think this will motivate a CM11. They'll most likely keep 10 and wait until the next big, big push before they bump to 11. The "K" release, or whatever.
codeworkx already posted on twitter about his excitement over this device. Selling his I9300 and using the left over money to buy an N4 and then get drunk with the rest lol
Zorachus said:
With the new Nexus 4, will the Cyanogen Mod team have to start fresh with new Nightly's CM11 based off Android 4.2 ? How long until those first Nightly's are available to flash ? Few days after Nexus 4 release, or we talking weeks a month ?
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I am guessing they might make it CM10.2.
Euler MD said:
I am guessing they might make it CM10.2.
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Given that they don't have a 10.1 release out yet, that's doubtful.
Its still CM10 that's a definite. They go by the name of the android version (Jellybean) which starts with a "J" which is the 10th letter of the alphabet, thus CM10.
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For shure it will be cm 10 most probably cm10.1, cm 11 will be kye lime pie
You have a thanks button and don't know what to do with it? ...
Just press it
Either way who cares what its called. I just want it on my gs3 and n4 when i get it.
It seems like more and more CM features are being put into stock android, not sure if it is even worth it to run CM roms anymore.
JCreazy said:
It seems like more and more CM features are being put into stock android, not sure if it is even worth it to run CM roms anymore.
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CM will always be worth it in my eyes. However, Google is certainly being awesome by including so much more stock customization over time, Android 4.2 even brings lockscreen widgets and notification toggles!
Zorachus said:
With the new Nexus 4, will the Cyanogen Mod team have to start fresh with new Nightly's CM11 based off Android 4.2 ? How long until those first Nightly's are available to flash ? Few days after Nexus 4 release, or we talking weeks a month ?
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no ETA for CyanogenMod Releases.
its the first and the only one rule if Cyanogen!!
antp121 said:
Its still CM10 that's a definite. They go by the name of the android version (Jellybean) which starts with a "J" which is the 10th letter of the alphabet, thus CM10.
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yeah, CM8 (skipped) was Honeycomb whcih was 3.0, 3.1 and 3.2
There is no hugeupdate so CM10.1 or 2 will be sure.
It will be 10.1
Zorachus said:
With the new Nexus 4, will the Cyanogen Mod team have to start fresh with new Nightly's CM11 based off Android 4.2 ? How long until those first Nightly's are available to flash ? Few days after Nexus 4 release, or we talking weeks a month ?
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CyanogenMod based off the 4.2 will be 10.1 according to the release statement on the CyanogenMod blog featured here:
http://www.cyanogenmod.org/blog/cyanogenmod-10-0-release
"Android 4.2 will become CyanogenMod 10.1 and we will provide an update on our Google+ when nightlies with the 4.2 code begin."
JCreazy said:
It seems like more and more CM features are being put into stock android, not sure if it is even worth it to run CM roms anymore.
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I already miss the notification bar buttons and the "no wallpaper" but yeah you can tell a lot has been adopted or was in the pipeline at the same time.
Zorachus said:
With the new Nexus 4, will the Cyanogen Mod team have to start fresh with new Nightly's CM11 based off Android 4.2 ? How long until those first Nightly's are available to flash ? Few days after Nexus 4 release, or we talking weeks a month ?
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With the blistering sucess of cm10....they will definately move on to a new upgraded version..and i guess we all are waiting for it... DESPERATELY !!
Does that mean if cm10 doesnt succeed we wont receiving cm11?
If the rumours are true Google is doing an android 4.3 instead of android 5.0 so wouldn't that make it cm10.2?
rocketqueen1 said:
With the blistering sucess of cm10....they will definately move on to a new upgraded version..and i guess we all are waiting for it... DESPERATELY !!
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Did you actually necro a thread dead for 6 months just to say that? :/
There's no point in speculating anything here. Really. We'll have CM of every new AOSP release, that's for sure. And it doesn't make any difference if it was called CM6343494566.64646, for instance.

What does stable mean then?

battery drain, wifi lock up. crashes on cyan 4.1.2 yet it is "Stable"
there must be a better JB. Do I have to try them all?
dros_d said:
battery drain, wifi lock up. crashes on cyan 4.1.2 yet it is "Stable"
there must be a better JB. Do I have to try them all?
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It means it was "stable for the exact model it was developed for", which, apparently, creates lots of problems to others. I'm not sure what subtle differences there are between TF101 models, but it seem to matter with ROMs. I'm still using 4.0.3 stock (rooted) because no 4.1 ROM will work "well enough", I always have major problems. I guess you're in the same boat I am.
However, I had colleagues that use 4.1 ROMs without any issues whatsoever...
dros_d said:
battery drain, wifi lock up. crashes on cyan 4.1.2 yet it is "Stable"
there must be a better JB. Do I have to try them all?
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"Stable" enough for most peoples for daily use. It's not the "Final" version so minor bugs are to be expected. Off course each and every tablet is different even if it's the same make and model.
As for trying them all, why not? At least till you find a ROM you like.
This is what "testing" is all about.
dros_d said:
battery drain, wifi lock up. crashes on cyan 4.1.2 yet it is "Stable"
there must be a better JB. Do I have to try them all?
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If you want stable, flash Team EOS 3 JB #81 & KAT Kernel 47b
*Detection* said:
If you want stable, flash Team EOS 3 JB #81 & KAT Kernel 47b
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With my particular device/usage model, I have to agree. It's easily as stable as the most recent official ICS update, and more robust than anything earlier.
csb5731 said:
With my particular device/usage model, I have to agree. It's easily as stable as the most recent official ICS update, and more robust than anything earlier.
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Official ASUS updates have not been stable for me since about January, actually since the 1st ICS update was sent out
After 6 months of waiting for ASUS to send out something that didn't reboot every few minutes and didn't welcome you in the morning to a completely drained dock and tablet battery, I gave up on them and went custom
Since I found Team EOS, my tablet is a pleasure to use and never craps out, ever, I have never seen a RR or SoD since flashing their ROM which is why I continue to recommend it whenever someone is looking for a stable ROM
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If you want stable, flash Team EOS 3 JB #81 & KAT Kernel 47b
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done and thankyou. this is the best this tablet has ever performed:victory:
I was happy stock, but this is superb!
+1 for team EOS. I stopped using my tablet for a few months because of the RRs and SODs. I flashed Team EOS's JB ROM and suddenly my TF101 is usable again!
Unfortunately, now I want to sell it for either a newer TF model or the Nexus 10
dros_d said:
done and thankyou. this is the best this tablet has ever performed:victory:
I was happy stock, but this is superb!
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Which Paranoid Android release is currently most stable?

I want to flash PA, but I want to stay away from unstable daily releases - even if it's not the most up-to-date (Missing halo e.t.c.) which release is currently the most stable? An RC or so?
Komladov said:
I want to flash PA, but I want to stay away from unstable daily releases - even if it's not the most up-to-date (Missing halo e.t.c.) which release is currently the most stable? An RC or so?
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AFAIK there aren't any nightlies of PA, just flash the latest download from the OP. That's the one I'm on and it has no issues. The Goo Manager app (built in to the ROM) will notify you when the next update is available, usually every few weeks.
I'm taking your advice. Thanks.
Just like Nigeldg said. I've been using the latest PA and have no issues whatsoever! I'm very pleased.
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[Q] CM 10.2 Stable

I had a fairly simple question, and please don't take it as a knock to any CM devs. My understanding is that the Nexus 4 (mako) is a device that google releases the entire build tree for, including all drivers for 4.3. I noticed that even today CM 10.2 doesn't have a stable build, and there is only about a week of nightlies. I've seen other devices like the Kindle Fire that are not Google devices get CM 10.2 faster than the Nexus 4. Does anyone know why that is? Again, I'm not knocking any developers/ports; I'm just curious as to what goes in to the development of the nexus devices.
shaklee3 said:
I had a fairly simple question, and please don't take it as a knock to any CM devs. My understanding is that the Nexus 4 (mako) is a device that google releases the entire build tree for, including all drivers for 4.3. I noticed that even today CM 10.2 doesn't have a stable build, and there is only about a week of nightlies. I've seen other devices like the Kindle Fire that are not Google devices get CM 10.2 faster than the Nexus 4. Does anyone know why that is? Again, I'm not knocking any developers/ports; I'm just curious as to what goes in to the development of the nexus devices.
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Well, the CM team are probably having a hard time with dead locks in AOSP 4.3. That's why no AOSP 4.3 based ROM isn't considered "stable".
There is no 10.2 stable for any device yet. Cm don't release stable or RC builds until the rom is considered stable and bug free on most devices.
So I used the cm installer to get 10.2 snapshot? And now I'm about to update to I guess the stable version of 10.2 through settings - About phone - system updates. By doing this will this delete all of my data. (Sorry I'm a noob at this stuff).:silly: I'm using a nexus 4 BTW.. L

What ROM will you suggest?

Hi guys,
my wife's phone died, so I found my brother's old nexus s. With official ROM it's kind of slow, so is there any custom ROM you will suggest to install? As long as is fast and stable, that's fine
Thx
funjai said:
Hi guys,
my wife's phone died, so I found my brother's old nexus s. With official ROM it's kind of slow, so is there any custom ROM you will suggest to install? As long as is fast and stable, that's fine
Thx
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There's a chart for that...
For my mom (she has my ns) I put jellybean 4.1.2 jz054m on it with the aosp 3.0.71 aosp devil kernel.. No features, but xposed is a thing.. Before I shipped it I tested it at 7days standby time or 3-4hrs sot.. Not fast, but for crespo it is.. 284/283 on geekbench..
Thx mate, will try it later today
I find Cyanogen 11 quite usable. There are "nightly" versions that even contain security updates from 2016. Older Android versions might be attackable due to various security holes.
I would install Nexus S Nightly build: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=crespo
For Google Play you'll need CM 11 "small" gapps.
Basically Android 4.4.4 with the Android Security Bulletins patched in. Just checked with AndroidVTS. And according to the app cm-11-20160523 is still vulnerable to CVE-2015-3636 (nasty apps can gain root) and CVE-2015-6616.
I might take a stab at getting that patched. But I have no clue where to go, since the Cyanogenmod JIRA bug tracker doesn't even contain a 'crespo' device anymore.
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I might take a stab at getting that patched. But I have no clue where to go, since the Cyanogenmod JIRA bug tracker doesn't even contain a 'crespo' device anymore.
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I already complained about that (See http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-s/development/unable-to-create-bug-report-cm11-jira-t3357978). It seems that CM11 has been more or less been abandoned by Cyanogen, and the "nightly builds" run unattendedly. Maybe the only way to really remove bugs or improve the system is to get the source code and run the compiler.
Henk Poley said:
I would install Nexus S Nightly build: https://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=crespo
For Google Play you'll need CM 11 "small" gapps.
Basically Android 4.4.4 with the Android Security Bulletins patched in. Just checked with AndroidVTS. And according to the app cm-11-20160523 is still vulnerable to CVE-2015-3636 (nasty apps can gain root) and CVE-2015-6616.
I might take a stab at getting that patched. But I have no clue where to go, since the Cyanogenmod JIRA bug tracker doesn't even contain a 'crespo' device anymore.
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Thx guys, at the moment I'm installing CM11

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