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Hey guys,
As a software developer myself I feel a bit embarrassed that I need to ask this, but I really can't think of the answer myself. Here goes:
Why do we always need the latest sources from Samsung to be able to build an AOSP rom?
The way I see it, unless the kernel's internal APIs that Samsung's device drivers use have changed dramatically between, say, Froyo and Gingerbread, wouldn't it be possible to simply check out AOSP, paste the driver source files from Froyo into the appropriate folder in the kernel tree, and compile? Even if the kernel's internal APIs have changed a bit, they would be minor and well documented changes, so it should only be a moderately difficult task to fix the Froyo sources to work with Gingerbread. Sure, the drivers would still be "Froyo quality," but they seem to work pretty well to me. I'd be happy with a Gingerbread AOSP build w/ Froyo drivers.
It's kind of like what VMWare's tools do in a Linux guest OS - if you update your distro's kernel, the ABI is broken and you just recompile the modules. Same VMWare source code, different kernel, but it works.
Hello
I was wondering if there are any Nexus 4 ROMs using JustArchi's optimizations (link). I did my best to compile OmniROM with these fixes, but I am not very experienced with Android development.
+1 to this post
Looks like our devices are too fast to use these "insignificant" compiler optimizations
I'll give my 5 cents these days to try compiling it..
Cheers
+1 for this thread.. I asked just the same thing in the general Q&A thread and nobody answered.. I'd like to see CM, ParanoidAndroid...etc.. built with ArchiDroids optimizations..
Like to see that too!
I've been searching for a rom with f2fs support + JustArchi's optimizations. Can be possible?
I created a topic earlier here
opssemnik said:
i can tell from personal experiences, its mostly placebo, tried archi´s rom on my gs3, and aside from the fact that the google camera dosent crash after first shot(witch occors on alot of roms ,even official cm, again on my s3), the rom is same speed, if not less than official cm. (on my s3 i9300)
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Nevertheless, there are other statements that say it is faster, we can only know for sure if we benchmark this and find someone willing to compile a rom. Perhaps @legolas93 is willing to be so kind?
joefso said:
I created a topic earlier here
Nevertheless, there are other statements that say it is faster, we can only know for sure if we benchmark this and find someone willing to compile a rom. Perhaps @legolas93 is willing to be so kind?
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yeah i saw those,luck for them, thats why best rom threads are not allowed on xda, people get different results on their devices ,i plan to compile aosp with those just to test on the n4, but i doubt i will :/
No one is going to try this anytime soon.
The code is no where near perfect and it sets up an environment where there is a lot of room for errors which will result in VERY bugy, glitchy, crashing Roms.
The code is really sloppy and so far only JustArchi is the only one that has successfully used this in a ROM with out error.
There is still a lot of going back and forth in whether this really works since android isn't 90% thumb
All this is good for is benchmark scores. Just like F2Fs its all placebo in real world performance.
With a quadcore 2 gig phone... You're not missing much.
Legecy devices will benefit in the least from this.
Sent from my SM-T217S using Tapatalk
First build is ready!
It is mako-userdebug.
I used Linaro toolchain(JustArchi's link) and JustArchi "JustArchi's ArchiDroid Optimizations V3" - https://github.com/JustArchi/android_build/commit/d8cc50d2472e497b431b5652516c9248ad7f3947
It is without Gapps (so PA Gapps must be used).
Build Env :
Debian GNU/Linux testing (with make downgraded from 4.xx because AOSP lunch require this).
AOSPA soruces 4.4.2_r1 used for the build.
No ART patches! ART will fail if you try using it.
Will test this today on my phone, and if successfully boot, I'll post a link for the ROM.
p.s : From back these days, where people find that AMD64 arch is here, Linux builds started to optimize the speed of your GNU/Linux for your specific CPU (Gentoo for example, or Debian GNU/Linux moved from i386 to i686 and after that to AMD64). Well, the tests and builds performance charfs finished with this : improvement of the speed was was something like 0.6/0.9% ... So in the real world reality do not expect much from this!
Regards ...
Edit:1
Boot failed
Next time, I'll enable the proprietary drivers in the build.
Currently new build is running with enabled prop drives settings like:
Source:http://nosemaj.org/howto-build-android-nexus-4
To use these proprietary files, comment out this line in device/lge/mako/full_mako.mk:
#PRODUCT_RESTRICT_VENDOR_FILES := true
Cheers!
Hi,
So as many of you already knew - I'm working on porting CM13 onto my NU3001.
I has it on my desk table, so I could work on it during my days. (I have another NR3001 installed in my car)
I already made some work for our unit SW. This is quick screenshots. Sources based on xdAuto and CM13. This is a very BETA and many things not working for now.on.
Why? : When I realize than CyanogenMod 13 (6.0.1) works on my Motorola XT1080 better than stock - I start thinking of porting CM13 to our device. And when I have spare set - I start porting.
How? : I took easiest way - try to do not modify kernel a lot, instead adopt bionic and other libraries for out 3.0.36+ kernel.
Currently working staff (it is very beginning):
1. Recovery TWRP 3.0.2
2. CM13 (LineAge OS) booting.
3. Graphics working (there is some blinking present).
4. Wifi working
5. Android audio working
6. Bonovo Radio working
4. Most of the rest is on the way (GPS, BT, rest of Bonovo apps)
UPDATE_1:
I decide to do not stuck with CM 13 and switch to AOSP N release (7.0) (mostly because on my daily job - we also going to Android N, so it should be more familiar to me now)
Currently working staff:
1. Recovery TWRP 3.0.2
2. SELinux needs to be carefully ported (kernel part), cause starting from 7.0 is can not be disabled (as I did for CM13 to easy port)
During this port I will try to minimize inpact to AOSP release, so any future updates should be much more easier.
For you to understanding of amount of needed work - kernel already has 100+ patches on top of xdauto release. Approximate left about 250-300 patches to revise/port.
Android 7.0 port abandoned because of bigger and bigger amount of work need to be done to port SELinux on top of our outdated kernel.
UPDATE2:
I setup review build environment, so who want to look at NOT-FULLY-WORKING CM13 could download sources and binaries. I do not provide instructions how to flash it, because who wants to look and contribute already know hot to flash, and who doesn't probably don't really want this NOT-FULLY-WORKING CM13
UPDATE3:
So I finally managed to get functional networking. So now Wifi working, internet working, display working.
I starting to port all necessary items. No more 'hard' showstoppers so far.
New build (I believe it is build number 5) should be ready in an our on build server, so I could test it more fully.
UPDATE4:
Cause CyanogenMod is no more maintained - switched to it's successor Lineage OS 13.0, starting from build 8
UPDATE5:
Build number 15 has working audio + radio
UPDATE6:
Most of Bonovo changes ported, new build 20 ready.
This build contains zip file which should be flashable via twrp, but I not test it this way.
Issues remaining so far(most noticeable to me):
1. Display flickering (my suspect is to vsync/fence mechanism slightly changed in Android 6.0, need to investigate)
2. HW Volume buttons not working on device
3. No audio In
UPDATE 7:
Starting from build 23 following images available:
cm_rk3188-ota-XX.zip - update to use via TWRP
nu3001-la-cm13-XX-userdebug.tar.gz - build image for flash via command line rkflashtool under linux (full or partial flash)
rkflash_nu3001-la-cm13-XX-userdebug.zip - Full image to be flashed via PC GUI RK Batch Tool.
kernel_nu3001-la-cm13-XX-userdebug.tar.gz - just kernel with debug symbols for debugging purposes.
To just download sources:
repo init -u https://gerrit.nc.org.ua/manifest -b nu3001_cm13
If you plan to contribute - login to Gerrit with GMail, push your SSH public key, choose login name and then do:
repo init -u ssh://<user>@gerrit.nc.org.ua:29418/manifest -b nu3001_cm13
Builds will be available on Jenkins build server (login also via GMail, PM for access grant on current project stage):
https://jenkins.nc.org.ua/
1.5 GB folder on MEGA
4 files
mega.nz
Please do not spoof this thread with questions like "When?", I will try to post updates regularly in this message.
This thread created is mostly to exchange experience with this build once it is published (issues, TODOs, etc)
**Reserved **
First!
Second! Lol
I'm not a developer so unfortunately I can't contribute, but hopefully those who can will.
At the very least I can beta test when its a little more complete.
Android port system less complicated than the application Bonovo.app and MCU. Good luck and patience.
Black're a legend !!
Your project is great !!! see Android 6.0 on Carpad would be great.
Thanks for the great effort you make for all
Woooow great !!
Good luck
nice one, i hope a very important feature:
"that can be use apps, which require android +4.4.4, like lollipop"
I say that because android auto "stand alone" coming soon, so if will be possible install this app in the radio, we have android auto pure, ( not automate that is awesome but is not the same like original ), and maybe mp3 stuttering from usb can be solved in this rom.
keep up work!
Thanks for the sneak peak, looks promising. I'll gladly help sponsor a new device if you happen to brick yours. I love this headunit and how far the community has gotten in supporting it.
I want to buy NU3001 now, is there any way to get it?
vivacious said:
I want to buy NU3001 now, is there any way to get it?
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NU3001 or ROM ? if you want NU3001 - you should go to aliexpress from wiki link. If ROM - it is not ready yet. I have half-working CM13.0 - no connectivity working (wifi, bt) so it is useless for now, and Android 7.0 porting in progress.
VBlack said:
NU3001 or ROM ? if you want NU3001 - you should go to aliexpress from wiki link. If ROM - it is not ready yet. I have half-working CM13.0 - no connectivity working (wifi, bt) so it is useless for now, and Android 7.0 porting in progress.
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I want NU3001 because it has hdmi option. But check in aliexpress newsmy store said it is no production now. Is there someone have stock?
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VBlack said:
NU3001 or ROM ? if you want NU3001 - you should go to aliexpress from wiki link. If ROM - it is not ready yet. I have half-working CM13.0 - no connectivity working (wifi, bt) so it is useless for now, and Android 7.0 porting in progress.
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I want NU3001 because it has hdmi option. But check in aliexpress newsmy store said it is no production now. Is there someone have stock?
vivacious said:
I want NU3001 because it has hdmi option. But check in aliexpress newsmy store said it is no production now. Is there someone have stock?
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I just put NU3001 to aliexpress search bar and found a lot of propositions, I think there should be available one.
Hi VBlack,
it's nice to know you're making progress on the new ROM CM13. All are rooting for you !! Your work would be wonderful !!
I have only one question:
With the ROM of XDAuto I found an annoying problem that occurs when i turn off and then relight the Carpad.
When the power back very often the Carpad car remains with black screen until i touch it with my finger.
I think the problem is somehow related to the USB ports.
Even with your ROM does this happen ?? When you turn on the car, the Carpad remains ever with black screen ??
Thank you!!
VBlack said:
NU3001 or ROM ? if you want NU3001 - you should go to aliexpress from wiki link. If ROM - it is not ready yet. I have half-working CM13.0 - no connectivity working (wifi, bt) so it is useless for now, and Android 7.0 porting in progress.
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Do you have your efforts posted on github anywhere? Would you mind doing so?
There is a chance I may be working on these devices again after all, and having a working CM provides a *LOT* of possibilities. Namely the Theme engine.
If you would be willing to post your work, I'm sure there are a handful of us who could help with the port.
Thanks,
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Do you have your efforts posted on github anywhere? Would you mind doing so?
There is a chance I may be working on these devices again after all, and having a working CM provides a *LOT* of possibilities. Namely the Theme engine.
If you would be willing to post your work, I'm sure there are a handful of us who could help with the port.
Thanks,
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Nice to hear from you. Sure I will share. Current situation is next:
CM13 - no wifi (looks like netfilter from userspace not match netfilter from our outdated kernel), no selinux (completely disabled), and increased system partition to be able to add opengapps, twrp - works.
AOSP 7 - it is strongly rely on selinux, so i could not just disable it, and now I'm trying to merge new selinux with our old kernel...
So, i will upload CM13 in current state, and continue on aosp 7, if i fail with aosp 7 i will back to cm13. This is current plan.
Sent from my DROID MAXX using Tapatalk
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
Do you have your efforts posted on github anywhere? Would you mind doing so?
There is a chance I may be working on these devices again after all, and having a working CM provides a *LOT* of possibilities. Namely the Theme engine.
If you would be willing to post your work, I'm sure there are a handful of us who could help with the port.
Thanks,
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I update first post with sources and build information
@VBlack, you mention "our outdated kernel". Does this imply that the kernel sources aren't available? I am very interested in this project because I am looking for a head unit with fully update firmware that can be kept up to date with security patches, and some of the Android security patches include the kernel (e.g. the recent "dirty cow" vulnerability).
shatteredsilicon said:
@VBlack, you mention "our outdated kernel". Does this imply that the kernel sources aren't available? I am very interested in this project because I am looking for a head unit with fully update firmware that can be kept up to date with security patches, and some of the Android security patches include the kernel (e.g. the recent "dirty cow" vulnerability).
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No, we have kernel sources, but our kernel version 3.0.36 and looks like nobody release Android kernel 3.14 or 3.18 for rk3188. 3.14 and 3.18 mostly used in Android M and N. So combining Android M or N with such outdated kernel is not a trivial task. Because of this incompatibility we currently have all networks issue on this CM13 project.
Kernel 3.0.36 is 4.5 years old. The 3.0 branch is no longer maintained with security patches, and hasn't been maintained in over 3 years. There have been numerous security exploits in the Linux kernel since then, many of which are applicable to Android. Is it worth even persevering with this under such an extreme kernel constraint?
shatteredsilicon said:
Kernel 3.0.36 is 4.5 years old. The 3.0 branch is no longer maintained with security patches, and hasn't been maintained in over 3 years. There have been numerous security exploits in the Linux kernel since then, many of which are applicable to Android. Is it worth even persevering with this under such an extreme kernel constraint?
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You'd be surprised how many phones in the market use old kernels (3.0 is not too old for Android - it is about 2-3years off from active development).. But true is that Android kernel despite it's version less vulnerable than Desktop one, and has many fixes included (it is does not increase kernel version, like mainline kernel). Because of this it is generally hard to say which security issue will be there for sure. But on the other hand Android N and Android M has SELinux enabled, and Android N could not have it disabled. It is dramatically increase overall security of the system. But for the most of traditional Android user kernel exploits does not produce many harm - it is not a corporate server with sensitive information. And many of them used to obtain root on bootloader locked systems.
So generally for what I have in mind:
1. If succeeded just with CM13 - I have disable SELinux there - it is will be not less secure than original 4.x release - just system/google components will be upgraded, which allow us use modern UI features from Android M, and also adds more compatibility with new applications revisions.
2. If succeeded with AOSP 7.0 - SELinux will be enabled there, so we will have security addition on top of old kernel, which actually will increase security alongside allowing UI features from Android N.
So in any case it is very nice to have.
Hello,
this thread is only for development discussion regarding development of android for msm8974. If you have anything useful, it's the right place, however, it's not for non-dev things.
Current state of cam:
working, though, still low quality. Will be fixed on v6. (and no videocam)
if you wanna have live chat, you can join an IRC
http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=#freexperia
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Ok. Seems I have wasted time with camera I think file which I used as a hal for nougat (camera.msm8974.so) from stock rom is not even used on stock rom, its just an aosp camera hal which is compiled by sony rom compilation! Somebody need to comfirm that please (just install stock rom 4.6.1.A.236 and remove camera.msm8974.so from system/lib/hw , try if camera working), I have no free time to install that stock rom to test that thing but I think that stock rom uses camera.qcom.so (which is not wrapper I think, its sony special camera hal), I am pretty sure that these lib is camera hal which sony uses on that rom! Somebody need to confirm!
So now i will explain all a little bit more
It is possible to get 3.4 kernel booting and working but the problem are the camera blobs for 3.4 too
All cam blobs above 4.4.4 can not used because they need drm keys but if you unlock your bootloader you will lose them
We have disscued this with all old cm maintainer and aosp devs including me as i'm one of the aosp devs
Booting 3.4 should need some hal changes in display and audio and the stock kernel need a lot of patches to get it boot on nougat
So in general 3.4 will work but we should focus on 3.10 its more efficend and if you see the progress over the last year we have done something which has no other manufacture. I fully understand all off you but we want to continue support of our devices for a long time and this is definitly easier on 3.10.
I know that sony will keep msm8974 as long as possible in the open device programm but it will end in some time because qcom discontinued the ardeno support which make it harder for all of us. I will give my best to bring msm8974 on 3.10 stable as a rock and hopefully with cam
So keep it up and help to fix the things
If you need some help or some more infos you can write me via pm or hangouts
munjeni said:
Ok. Seems I have wasted time with camera I think file which I used as a hal for nougat (camera.msm8974.so) from stock rom is not even used on stock rom! Somebody need to comfirm that please (just install stock rom 4.6.1.A.236 and remove that file from system/lib/hw , try if camera working), I have no free time to install that stock rom to test that thing but I think that stock rom uses camera.qcom.so which is not wrapper as a tomascus say, I am pretty sure that these lib is camera hal which sony uses on that rom! Somebody need to confirm
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huh? isn't that camera.qcom.so too small to be hal? (sorry, still no device...)
munjeni said:
Ok. Seems I have wasted time with camera I think file which I used as a hal for nougat (camera.msm8974.so) from stock rom is not even used on stock rom! Somebody need to comfirm that please (just install stock rom 4.6.1.A.236 and remove that file from system/lib/hw , try if camera working), I have no free time to install that stock rom to test that thing but I think that stock rom uses camera.qcom.so which is not wrapper as a tomascus say, I am pretty sure that these lib is camera hal which sony uses on that rom! Somebody need to confirm
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Stock uses camera. msm8974.so but it checks if drm vertity is present but we can nor rewrite the whole l drm verity on 3.4 because its closed source
SuperLamic said:
huh? isn't that camera.qcom.so too small to be hal? (sorry, still no device...)
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I don't know but I will try in next few days when I get more free time for installing sotck rom
rcstar6696 said:
So now i will explain all a little bit more
It is possible to get 3.4 kernel booting and working but the problem are the camera blobs for 3.4 too
All cam blobs above 4.4.4 can not used because they need drm keys but if you unlock your bootloader you will lose them
We have disscued this with all old cm maintainer and aosp devs including me as i'm one of the aosp devs
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Thats bul****! When you unlock bootloader on stock rom you still have working camera!!! WTH drm keys!
rcstar6696 said:
Booting 3.4 should need some hal changes in display and audio and the stock kernel need a lot of patches to get it boot on nougat
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That allso is not true! Only selinux and mmap proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR is need to get it boot on nougat! For more info here you can see kernel which boots on nougat, see commits for more info! https://github.com/munjeni/android_kernel_sony_msm/commits/master
Please don't post misinformation if you are not 100% sure!
munjeni said:
Ok. Seems I have wasted time with camera I think file which I used as a hal for nougat (camera.msm8974.so) from stock rom is not even used on stock rom, its just an aosp camera hal which is compiled by sony rom compilation! Somebody need to comfirm that please (just install stock rom 4.6.1.A.236 and remove camera.msm8974.so from system/lib/hw , try if camera working), I have no free time to install that stock rom to test that thing but I think that stock rom uses camera.qcom.so (which is not wrapper I think, its sony special camera hal), I am pretty sure that these lib is camera hal which sony uses on that rom! Somebody need to confirm!
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Camera.msm8974 is an useless lib on stock rom
Camera.qcom is Sony camera hal.
I had found out it few months ago.
munjeni said:
Thats bul****! When you unlock bootloader on stock rom you still have working camera!!! WTH drm keys!
That allso is not true! Only selinux and mmap proc tunable for mmap_base ASLR is need to get it boot on nougat! For more info here you can see kernel which boots on nougat, see commits for more info! https://github.com/munjeni/android_kernel_sony_msm/commits/master
Please don't post misinformation if you are not 100% sure!
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If you read it again you will see that i talk about drm verity not drm keys
Test it if you want we had cm13 booting on 3.4 and it was only possible with display patches audio patches where only needed to fix some small sound issues
Chirayu desai one of the cm maintainer can confirm this.
Selinux is correct this needs to be rewritten and mmap too but i wanted to write it understandable for all guys not only for devs
The other thing about the camera hal is an info from alin but if you say he isnt correct then you will be right :good:
It could be possible that the cam will start without but not with all Features
Do what you want but i'm quite sure that you don't get a fully working cam
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If you read it again you will see that i talk about drm verity not drm keys
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I don't know which device you have but I speak about Honami and Amami only. On Honami and Amami unlocking bootloader have nothing to do with camera, only some small changes in picture quality can be noticed. I will definitelly go to 3.10 kernel till after camera gets working
mkdmc said:
Camera.msm8974 is an useless lib on stock rom
Camera.qcom is Sony camera hal.
I had found out it few months ago.
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Thats what I thinking now too! Did you tested, whats happening when camera.msm8974.so gets removed, is camera working? I need confirmation on rom 4.6.1.A.236 ! Which I found camera.qcom.so uses chocobal and excal blobs, camera.msm8974.so uses nothing from that.
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Stock uses camera. msm8974.so but it checks if drm vertity is present but we can nor rewrite the whole l drm verity on 3.4 because its closed source
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Did you try to grep that file? For example
strings camera.msm8974.so | grep drm
You can see null results about drm
rcstar6696 said:
So now i will explain all a little bit more
It is possible to get 3.4 kernel booting and working but the problem are the camera blobs for 3.4 too
All cam blobs above 4.4.4 can not used because they need drm keys but if you unlock your bootloader you will lose them
We have disscued this with all old cm maintainer and aosp devs including me as i'm one of the aosp devs
Booting 3.4 should need some hal changes in display and audio and the stock kernel need a lot of patches to get it boot on nougat
So in general 3.4 will work but we should focus on 3.10 its more efficend and if you see the progress over the last year we have done something which has no other manufacture. I fully understand all off you but we want to continue support of our devices for a long time and this is definitly easier on 3.10.
I know that sony will keep msm8974 as long as possible in the open device programm but it will end in some time because qcom discontinued the ardeno support which make it harder for all of us. I will give my best to bring msm8974 on 3.10 stable as a rock and hopefully with cam
So keep it up and help to fix the things
If you need some help or some more infos you can write me via pm or hangouts
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Hi
thanks for your reply. First, excuse me if i miss some point or if i'm not accurate: im new to this world. I learn cm with my z3, running my first 'mka bacon', around 1 year ago. I read a lot (xda, aosp doc, an listen the experimented devs). I agree with you that running a 3.4 kernel on aosp will be hard as it need a lot of changes but, for cm, switching to caf HAL variant need only a few variables changes. Now i am able to boot cm-13.0 and cm-14.0 on z3 without changing the build tree and this cm-13.0 is now used at daily usage.
Obliviously it doesn't change anything to camera facts.
About the 3.10 kernel, the officials cm maintainers insists a lot that i work with it but after we got a "won't fix" on the screen flickering issue it reveal the problem was a panel driver init missing, i try to fix but it is out of my knowledge, so i decide to drop the 3.10 kernel definitively as it will remain unusable for z3/z3c.
I totally get the idea of only one kernel for all devices and really agree with that. If, one day, this screen flickering issue get fixed, i will be glad to give another try and will contribute as much as i can. But for now users have an upgraded rom, almost working, with recent security patches.
About the camera, i doubt it is related to TA partition.
I just made a test with:
z3 stock .575 locked bootloader
z3 stock .200 unlocked bootloader
z3 cm-12.1
Camera on both stock z3 are working the same way.
I need to make the same test with both stock device on the same rom version now.
munjeni said:
I don't know which device you have but I speak about Honami and Amami only. On Honami and Amami unlocking bootloader have nothing to do with camera, only some small changes in picture quality
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Drm verity are not the same as drm keys the keys are needed to get some Algorithmen to work. So this explains your lose of qualiy but drm verity is a protection to protect data and libs. On stock you have a implimenation that verfiy the loading of the carefull data and drm will be okay but these implimenation is closed source and needs to be e rewritten and this is nearly impossible because no other devices has this in a so extremly way then the sony devices
You can look into hammerhead source and you see some commits about drm verity too but hammerheads cam libs are not included in the verity
I have castor and sirius
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Hi
thanks for your reply. First, excuse me if i miss some point or if i'm not accurate: im new to this world. I learn cm with my z3, running my first 'mka bacon', around 1 year ago. I read a lot (xda, aosp doc, an listen the experimented devs). I agree with you that running a 3.4 kernel on aosp will be hard as it need a lot of changes but, for cm, switching to caf HAL variant need only a few variables changes. Now i am able to boot cm-13.0 and cm-14.0 on z3 without changing the build tree and this cm-13.0 is now used at daily usage.
Obliviously it doesn't change anything to camera facts.
About the 3.10 kernel, the officials cm maintainers insists a lot that i work with it but after we got a "won't fix" on the screen flickering issue it reveal the problem was a panel driver init missing, i try to fix but it is out of my knowledge, so i decide to drop the 3.10 kernel definitively as it will remain unusable for z3/z3c.
I totally get the idea of only one kernel for all devices and really agree with that. If, one day, this screen flickering issue get fixed, i will be glad to give another try and will contribute as much as i can. But for now users have an upgraded rom, almost working, with recent security patches.
About the camera, i doubt it is related to TA partition.
I just made a test with:
z3 stock .575 locked bootloader
z3 stock .200 unlocked bootloader
z3 cm-12.1
Camera on both stock z3 are working the same way.
I need to make the same test with both stock device on the same rom version now.
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Hey yes i was only talking about stock not about thr cm kernel
When did you test 3.10 the last time all display issues are normally solved if you use 1.3.3 kernel base
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Drm verity are not the same as drm keys the keys are needed to get some Algorithmen to work. So this explains your lose of qualiy but drm verity is a protection to protect data and libs. On stock you have a implimenation that verfiy the loading of the carefull data and drm will be okay but these implimenation is closed source and needs to be e rewritten and this is nearly impossible because no other devices has this in a so extremly way then the sony devices
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Where you found that info? Any log about it?
munjeni said:
Where you found that info? Any log about it?
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Ask alin Jerpelea or chirayu deasi all infos i give too you are from them
For drm verity just use google :/
nailyk said:
screen flickering issue[/URL] it reveal the problem was a panel driver init missing, i try to fix but it is out of my knowledge
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I'm oticed frezings and some strange things using that msm8994 display hal, but on my buld I have used codeaurora LA.BR.1.3.6_rb1.3 branch for display, camera and some things in media, I can confirm that display things fly, its soo smoth, video soo smooth, screen power off/on smooth... if you want to try here is it http://munjeni.myiphost.com/mynougat.tar.gz , don't forget to build kernel with script buildkernel.sh since it will install kernel headers from 1.3.3 and will build 1.3.3. kernel too. I have told jerpelea about it but no reaply about LA.BR.1.3.6
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Hey yes i was only talking about stock not about thr cm kernel
When did you test 3.10 the last time all display issues are normally solved if you use 1.3.3 kernel base
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Really? My last try was with the LA.BF64.1.2.2_rb4.7 branch. Great i have some waiting patches for fm and nfc! Unfortunately i half broke my original screen which make screen flickering debugging harder. I will give a try asap. Thanks for the hint!
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Really? My last try was with the LA.BF64.1.2.2_rb4.7 branch. Great i have some waiting patches for fm and nfc! Unfortunately i half broke my original screen which make screen flickering debugging harder. I will give a try asap. Thanks for the hint!
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Just use nougat and everything from sonyxperiadev instruction page, its kernel 1.3.3 which is very good, extract things from mynougat.rar to android tree, build kernel with script buildkernel.sh (you will need some path modification to it), and the rest like mentioned...
Hello
For the past couple (weeks) I've been trying to compile Android 10 for tenderloin using the Android 9 sources but it's not going so well. First thing I ran into multiple sepolicy errors and I feel as if I fixed them in inappropriate ways but the errors went away. Other errors regarding camera and audio and such, that are regarding that tenderloin no longer uses the legacy audio format. Made me confused because I used the device sources form Evervolv and DIrty unicorns and if i'm correct they built it exactly the same way they uploaded it. After these errors were wrapped up, I got a error at zipping the rom that it could not zip due to failure of being able to read build.prop. This made me believe that the sources are not correctly formatted. If anyone can help me find a manifest, I can build for all you guys. Please keep tenderloin alive!
Now, I did something and I'm getting plenty of perl errors. Maybe I'm just very unlucky. I'm gonna attempt to reinstall on a fresh drive on my server.
If its anyone's concern, I was building lineage 17.1. I noticed for example, Lineage's "qcom-device" repo was shaped completely differently than Evervolvs qcom-device repo.
This led me to thought that Android 10 is going to be extremely difficult because of all the upstream dev changes that was pushed to Q. If any of you would like, I could probably push out March patches Pie rom because over there I'm mostly safe of complying with the source.
My manifest shape
DirtyUnicorn's device-tree
DirtyUnicorn's device-tree-common
DirtyUnicorn's htc-msm8960-kernel
Evervolv's vendor
And dirty unicorn's atheros wlan driver
I have been changing up the device tree so much, it almost looks ridiculous . From what I heard lots of properties on the device tree haven't been touched for years. Maybe tomorrow I can try Evervolv's Q rom. If you guys can help me build up my manifest, we can push out a fully working Q rom for tenderloin. And it would be just in time when Android 11 comes out. Thank you everyone!
I wish that I could offer any help, but I never tried to compile any Android ROM or for the HP_TP.
To my knowledge the only users that I know that could offer some insight on the process would be:
@flintman
@elginsk8r
Also the LuneOS project could offer some help:
https://pivotce.com/tag/luneos/
If Android Q(10) can not be ported to the HP_TP, then at least P(9) is a good ROM to keep updating that could provide many years of App support.
Theres no reason why exactly it cant,, because lots of roms I hear were built off the original TP sources (From 2011!). It was only around 2016 when guys around here had to change it up so much that they should've been so surprised that it worked. I can try and temporarily maintain P roms until the boys around here push out sources for Q!
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Theres no reason why exactly it cant,, because lots of roms I hear were built off the original TP sources (From 2011!). It was only around 2016 when guys around here had to change it up so much that they should've been so surprised that it worked. I can try and temporarily maintain P roms until the boys around here push out sources for Q!
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To my limited knowledge is all about Hardware -->> Drivers -->> ( Kernel ).
The reason that Bluetooth and camera does not work on newer Android version is due to the old (proprietary drivers) and the Kernel. That takes more dedication and work than the ROM. The same rules applies to the desktop, older processors does not support certain features and the Operating System will not run. It is possible to disable the features in the kernel so that it does not check the hardware and make it run, but it will be unstable.
Everything could be possible with plenty of time, knowledge and dedication.
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To my limited knowledge is all about Hardware -->> Drivers -->> ( Kernel ).
The reason that Bluetooth and camera does not work on newer Android version is due to the old (proprietary drivers) and the Kernel. That takes more dedication and work than the ROM. The same rules applies to the desktop, older processors does not support certain features and the Operating System will not run. It is possible to disable the features in the kernel so that it does not check the hardware and make it run, but it will be unstable.
Everything could be possible with plenty of time, knowledge and dedication.
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When I look at the tenderloin source, the script to gather the camera driver is disabled. Camera isnt a huge deal though because its only 1.3 MP. However we use the MSM 8960 kernel from HTC and that is the one m7,, but the one m7 is a SD 600 device so it loses sense. I was gonna get some help with one of my kernel developer buddies to dev a kernel for android 10 for tenderloin. If you see the one m7 has Lineage 17.1 available and even though it doesnt have same chipset, if im correct both chipsets went off of the same assembly line process. Lineage 17.1 for the one m7 also packages it as a "uimage" which is what we use. I believe this was only a very small select of devices. Yeah about that ive been getting so many complaints during build about "mkimage" which should've been a prebuilt tool in the lineage source. Don't know why they removed it, or if our developers added it in by their selves, etc. Anyways I fixed that error by just "allowing" mkimage in one of the permission files in my environment. But yeah i went as far as the build packaging the ROM and it complaining it cannot read build.prop. Note the build.props are generated by the environment , not the source (even though the device data is gathered by the source, its not what im talking about). I even go to the directory it was complaining about and it was all there. One of my friends suggested a permission error. I changed permissions to 777 (rw to all users) and it would still output that error. By that point I trashed my build meaning I may of done something wrong early on. I will let someone else continue building 10 but I will continue building 9 with latest patches.
It will be extremely impressive if any kernel developer will update the HP Touchpad Kernel or tweak it for future release, well everything will stop once Android becomes 64 only.
I am sure you are very well aware, but I will suggest using this built:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/development/rom-evervolv-hp-touchpad-t3923512
I was able to do the following playing around recompiling the Kernel. I recompile almost all the ROM and incorporated the same kernel changes.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-optimize-android-swap-t3901773
The Ramdisk is also very easy to unpack and repack:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-novacom-repair-android-t3960435
There is no need to get the original Camera or Bluetooth working, only sound and WiFi.
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It will be extremely impressive if any kernel developer will update the HP Touchpad Kernel or tweak it for future release, well everything will stop once Android becomes 64 only.
I am sure you are very well aware, but I will suggest using this built:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/development/rom-evervolv-hp-touchpad-t3923512
I was able to do the following playing around recompiling the Kernel. I recompile almost all the ROM and incorporated the same kernel changes.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-optimize-android-swap-t3901773
The Ramdisk is also very easy to unpack and repack:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/hp-touchpad/general/hp-touchpad-novacom-repair-android-t3960435
There is no need to get the original Camera or Bluetooth working, only sound and WiFi.
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I think I probably stated somewhere, but Evervolvs "device" tree would just spit out hundreds of errors, and I fixed this by switching to Dirty Unicorns device tree. I also tried flintman's device tree and it didn't spit out many errors. Thanks for this though.
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I think I probably stated somewhere, but Evervolvs "device" tree would just spit out hundreds of errors, and I fixed this by switching to Dirty Unicorns device tree. I also tried flintman's device tree and it didn't spit out many errors. Thanks for this though.
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I have only recompile the Kernel and all of them work, but the correct branch must be use. I can not say about building a ROM, never done it.
But Evervovs Pie by elginsk8r works very well and stable as it uses the same kernel, but the framework is different. I guess elginsk8r will be the only that can guide you on the right direction or flintman.
Have fun learning, it takes a lot of TIME!