I give up - no usb debug in ucuamdl? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

I hate to post this, but cannot research an answer: I have rooted my last 2 Galaxy devices, but am FRUSTRATED my new s4 running UCUAMDL out of the box. I am unable to access developer options or usb debugging. I have gone to "about phone," tapped on the build (more than 7 times), and get nothing. Surely there is a way to do this? Am wanting to use an Odin one click for root, and need usb debugging. Thanks for any help.

That's how it is done... There is no other way.
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graydiggy said:
That's how it is done... There is no other way.
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I guess I will have to figure out a way to return the phone and try another one, because no matter how many times I tap, or how rapidly/slowly I tap, I cannot access dev options on this device. Very, very unhappy. I searched for a ucuamdl device, found one, and now this relatively simple, stupid roadblock. Thanks for your help.
EDIT: Is it this simple - do I need to have the sim in the device to access dev options? I am afraid that the device will auto-update.

Just go to settings, about phone, tap build number 10 times, you should get a small message that Dev options are enabled. Go back to settings and scroll down. It appears next to about phome .
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m0r0n3s said:
Just go to settings, about phone, tap build number 10 times, you should get a small message that Dev options are enabled. Go back to settings and scroll down. It appears next to about phome .
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That's how it should work, all right. Does not work on my phone. Yet. I am taking a break & using my s2 while out for a bit. When I try it again, Iwill wipe/factory reset. & will go ahead & insert a sim, log in to Google, tell the phone who I am, etc. I had not done these things, to avoid the mf3 update possibly auto-starting. Maybe this will make a difference. I will post the results. Thanks for your response.
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You don't need the SIM in the phone. I rooted and put a custom ROM on my device the day before I even activated.
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chaplain said:
That's how it should work, all right. Does not work on my phone. Yet. I am taking a break & using my s2 while out for a bit. When I try it again, Iwill wipe/factory reset. & will go ahead & insert a sim, log in to Google, tell the phone who I am, etc. I had not done these things, to avoid the mf3 update possibly auto-starting. Maybe this will make a difference. I will post the results. Thanks for your response.
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Perhaps you can download a debugging on off toggle in the playstore
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Sounds like you are doing it right. Just go to SETTINGS, MORE, ABOUT DEVICE, click on BUILD NUMBER, (I always started off fast clicking until I would see a little popup that says something like your are 7 away from being a developer), then click it until it says developer mode or you are now a developer or something like this. Now EXIT back out of the setting tabs until your at the MORE tab again and NIW there should be a DEVELOPER OPTIONS, click on it to open and choose USB DEBUGGING.
Replied to your on as well.
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graydiggy said:
You don't need the SIM in the phone. I rooted and put a custom ROM on my device the day before I even activated.
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nthknd said:
Perhaps you can download a debugging on off toggle in the playstore
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RockRatt said:
Sounds like you are doing it right. Just go to SETTINGS, MORE, ABOUT DEVICE, click on BUILD NUMBER, (I always started off fast clicking until I would see a little popup that says something like your are 7 away from being a developer), then click it until it says developer mode or you are now a developer or something like this. Now EXIT back out of the setting tabs until your at the MORE tab again and NIW there should be a DEVELOPER OPTIONS, click on it to open and choose USB DEBUGGING.
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Thanks to everyone who replied. Is this the dumbest thing you have seen w/an android device? It is simple - tap the build in "about phone" - there's even a video on xda on how to tap on the phone . . . No matter how fast/slow or many/few times I do this, I get nothing. Zip. I wish we had one of the old Odin root methods, where I could just boot into download mode and plug it into Odin. I guess I have no choice but to take it to an ATT Device Support Center and tell them that I need USB debugging to be able to transfer files other than media, and see if they can get it working. The phone is still stock, for sure, so that should not be a problem. The USB toggle apps on the market require root or installation as a system app, which I can't do on stock.
EDIT: I downloaded & Odin'd a fresh install of UCUAMDL. All is well now. Dev options enabled; ready to root and flash.

chaplain said:
Thanks to everyone who replied. Is this the dumbest thing you have seen w/an android device? It is simple - tap the build in "about phone" - there's even a video on xda on how to tap on the phone . . . No matter how fast/slow or many/few times I do this, I get nothing. Zip.//cut// EDIT: I downloaded & Odin'd a fresh install of UCUAMDL. All is well now. Dev options enabled; ready to root and flash.
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Good work. . . I wonder why the older copy of MDL did not respond? That was strange, but you're good to go now and that is what counts! -happy flashing!

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GT-I9505 XXUAMDF Root - USB DEBUGGING Enabled

HI
Not to sure it i should start a thread but here goes.
I got my GT-I9505 XXUAMDF - UK on the 27th April
Up to now i have managed to Root the device using the CF-ROOT download - do a search for the following filename CF-Auto-Root-jflte-jfltexx-gti9505.zip
Once rooted I was shooked to find that i could not locate USB DEBUGGING on the device, After hunting around I came accross a post and gave it a shot it worked
To get USB DEBUGGING enabled on Android 4.2.2 on the GT-I9505 do the following
1. Goto SETTINGS
2. Click ABOUT DEVICE
3. Trap 7 Times on the BUILD NUMBER.
Once done you should get a message stating "You Are Now A Developer"
Once you have seen the message you can then go back to settings and you should have the option "Developer Options", now you can enable USB Debugging.
Now you can install your APK files like Titanium Backup
Hope I have not stepped on anyones toes, and hope this help people out.
The Developer Options are hidden on Jelly Bean 4.2. Google decided to do this for some reason.
I'm glad you found it.
Great Find
mccormackc ! Thank m8 this is really usefull !!
You don't need to root the phone to do so. The developer options is hidden in 4.2.2 version so the novice user won't harm his phone.
I rooted to remove samsung crappy apps i didnt ask for
Fibercoax said:
I rooted to remove samsung crappy apps i didnt ask for
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Of course you asked for it as you own a Samsung phone! You wouldn't go and buy a Ferrari and remove the badges because you didn't want a Ferrari would you...... How silly.
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djwilliams100 said:
Of course you asked for it as you own a Samsung phone! You wouldn't go and buy a Ferrari and remove the badges because you didn't want a Ferrari would you...... How silly.
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I buy Samsung not Yahoo
great job
Thanks
Didn't know the developers option is hidden from Jelly Bean to so on .... Your thread ended my lot of headache .. Thanks a lot

[SOLVED] Help with ADB shell...please

I trying to uninstall safe strip and all i got is device offline. I did reinstall all passible things. Did try diffrend PC, restarts etc... can't find out what is wrong.. On stock rooted MF3 firmware.
EDIT: there is another way to uninstall safestrip then tru ADB?
norbarb said:
I trying to uninstall safe strip and all i got is device offline. I did reinstall all passible things. Did try diffrend PC, restarts etc... can't find out what is wrong.. On stock rooted MF3 firmware.
EDIT: there is another way to uninstall safestrip then tru ADB?
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did u enable usb debugging lol
xuanphucn said:
did u enable usb debugging lol
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really....yes i did...
norbarb said:
really....yes i did...
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Try using terminal emulator
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The device offline thing usually happens when you didn't accept the security warning (on the phone) when you plug into the computer. This will come up every time, even with computers you have used before, unless you also check the box telling it not to ask you again.
Yrs,
dkephart
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dkephart said:
The device offline thing usually happens when you didn't accept the security warning (on the phone) when you plug into the computer. This will come up every time, even with computers you have used before, unless you also check the box telling it not to ask you again.
Yrs,
dkephart
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I did accept everytime but no go. I even delete ADB keys from device and still no go.
Now i got device not found error... this is sucks
EDIT: i notice ADB is not working on any devices i have... what is wrong ?????
norbarb said:
I did accept everytime but no go. I even delete ADB keys from device and still no go.
Now i got device not found error... this is sucks
EDIT: i notice ADB is not working on any devices i have... what is wrong ?????
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Maybe update your adb? Get current version from Google dev site. ..
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dkephart said:
Maybe update your adb? Get current version from Google dev site. ..
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I got latest one... now i'm back to device offline
BTW: i don't see phone asking for key autorization.
Hm. So, in some cases the USB cable is to blame. Especially when the phone(s) are not responding to the PC. Using original USB cable?
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dkephart said:
Hm. So, in some cases the USB cable is to blame. Especially when the phone(s) are not responding to the PC. Using original USB cable?
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I got 6 samsung devices and try all of cables (orginals) no go... i find out that i got adb version 1.0.29 and i need to be on 1.0.31 (at last) can someone tell me how to update?
Yep. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180619
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dkephart said:
Yep. See http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2180619
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This not help to update to 1.0.31. I updated Android SDK Tools to 22.3 and Android SDK Platform Tools to 19 but ADB is still on 1.0.29
EDIT: never mind... finaly i got it...THANKS A LOT for your patience and help

bootloop after 4.4.2 kit kat upgrade and cf root

well I flashed the firmware just fine...no problems...but when I tried to root it, it got stuck in bootloop...if I pull the battery and restart its just fine, but no root....help?....lol thanks in advance...I have found a few cf-root files on the web, but every time I flash any of them I get stuck in bootloop...also...no custom recovery....yet....So confused...
Which phone do you have and os?
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hey_joe said:
Which phone do you have and os?
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sorry...tmobile SM-N900T , RUNNING LATEST STOCK KIT KAT 4.4.2
You found a few cf root files on the web... well ain't that cute. Isn't there just one cf root file for your model ? Flash the right one and your good.
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Dirtylarry11 said:
sorry...tmobile SM-N900T , RUNNING LATEST STOCK KIT KAT 4.4.2
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Link below is suppose to be the one for your phone but I'm not sure if cf updated it already for 4.4.
http://download.chainfire.eu/354/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-hltetmo-hltetmo-smn900t.zip
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Make sure reactivation lock is off or you won't be able to root.
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hey_joe said:
Link below is suppose to be the one for your phone but I'm not sure if cf updated it already for 4.4.
http://download.chainfire.eu/354/CF-Root/CF-Auto-Root/CF-Auto-Root-hltetmo-hltetmo-smn900t.zip
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Make sure reactivation lock is off or you won't be able to root.
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ok, I got the right file...always did have the correct one after double checking....what is this reactivation lock?...I read the pdf file, but I don't see any downloads etc?...
Download is at the bottom of the link and it's a zip file. You can check in download mode whether reactivation lock is off or on.
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Dirtylarry11 said:
ok, I got the right file...always did have the correct one after double checking....what is this reactivation lock?...I read the pdf file, but I don't see any downloads etc?...
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Settings > security > reactivation lock > uncheck it. (for future reference)
Reactivation Lock is a security feature implemented that if you have on and you lose/have your phone stolen it is tied to your Samsung account. If someone tries to flash a new ROM/Reset it, they cannot as it will require your Samsung account info to get past the setup screen.
radicalisto said:
Settings > security > reactivation lock > uncheck it. (for future reference)
Reactivation Lock is a security feature implemented that if you have on and you lose/have your phone stolen it is tied to your Samsung account. If someone tries to flash a new ROM/Reset it, they cannot as it will require your Samsung account info to get past the setup screen.
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ok, thank you, but I don't have this listed under securitymine says encrypt device, then encrypt external sd card, and then it sasy sim card lock...no reactivation lock anywhere
Dirtylarry11 said:
ok, thank you, but I don't have this listed under securitymine says encrypt device, then encrypt external sd card, and then it sasy sim card lock...no reactivation lock anywhere
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Off the top of my head it should be in there or around security - (not currently using my N3 as it's got a broken screen so using my N5). -
radicalisto said:
Off the top of my head it should be in there or around security - (not currently using my N3 as it's got a broken screen so using my N5). -
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I just looked at all the setting screens and when into each sub screen..I don't have it there on any of them...hmmm
Dirtylarry11 said:
ok, thank you, but I don't have this listed under securitymine says encrypt device, then encrypt external sd card, and then it sasy sim card lock...no reactivation lock anywhere
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That's weird. When i go to security settings, top one is encrypt, below that is find my mobile section and reactivation lock is at the bottom of that section.
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Do T-Mobile offer a different method of locating a device? Like Lookout or something? I know one of the US carriers do - it's possible the firmware has been adjusted to reflect this due to any deal the carrier may have.
radicalisto said:
Do T-Mobile offer a different method of locating a device? Like Lookout or something? I know one of the US carriers do - it's possible the firmware has been adjusted to reflect this due to any deal the carrier may have.
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next to RP SWREV in download mode I see this: S2_T2_R2_A3_P2...but according to a leaked PDF file, it should show this:S2_T2_R2_A2_P2 for tmobile...I think Tmobile does use lookout, but what the heck do I do at this point?..I am sooo confused on all this stuff!!!!....lol.....Thanks a million
Here's how it looks on mine.
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Dirtylarry11 said:
next to RP SWREV in download mode I see this: S2_T2_R2_A3_P2...but according to a leaked PDF file, it should show this:S2_T2_R2_A2_P2 for tmobile...I think Tmobile does use lookout, but what the heck do I do at this point?..I am sooo confused on all this stuff!!!!....lol.....Thanks a million
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EDIT: Post a pic of your device in download mode if you can also!
I wouldn't worry too much about the S T R A P number versions currently, I think best thing to do is wipe the device, reflash your stock and start again with the CF-AutoRoot that was posted in the thread. It's possible something just may have corupted on you somewhere along the line.
radicalisto said:
EDIT: Post a pic of your device in download mode if you can also!
I wouldn't worry too much about the S T R A P number versions currently, I think best thing to do is wipe the device, reflash your stock and start again with the CF-AutoRoot that was posted in the thread. It's possible something just may have corupted on you somewhere along the line.
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ok, here is what I did:
1: install firmware. it reboots...then shows the android ..( he turns blue), then restarts ....phone works fine.
2: install the cf-root from above link and it installs fine, but then on reboot it gets stuck in "Seanandroid enforcing (something like that) and just keeps rebooting like it wants to go into recovery, but it never does...just bootloops.
3: I read in CF forum to turn off..pull battery and try again...same thing.
Do I need to load a recovery file?..am I missing a step or doing it out of order perhaps?
It's possible that the cf file you are using isn't compatible with the N900T - to be 100% certain you'd have to go over to the T-Mobile Note 3 forum on here and have a look through their cf auto root thread to be sure one way or another. It's puzzled me especially since the method you're using seems correct.
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radicalisto said:
It's possible that the cf file you are using isn't compatible with the N900T - to be 100% certain you'd have to go over to the T-Mobile Note 3 forum on here and have a look through their cf auto root thread to be sure one way or another. It's puzzled me especially since the method you're using seems correct.
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I will do that, thank you...I just saw this online in another forum with others having the same problem:
"I upgraded to kitkat 4.4.2 Note 3 SM-900T and even after odin says pass, it is stuck in Boot loop (which I know how to get out of) and I get this message like everyone else;
Recovery Booting...
Recovery is not seandroid enforcing
Set warranty bit: recovery"
uh -oh....lol...interesting find.
Uh oh indeed. Chainfire may have fixed it since though, he's pretty quick as updating and fixing things as soon as he's made aware of changes.
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No signal or hope!

This is on behalf of a family member so I would really appreciate it guys if you could help.
Have a S4 snapdragon 600 variant and she bought it with everything working. I unlocked it for her using the region lock app and a bit of tweaking with which is best modem But after a few days (like 3 or 4 days after) on a custom ROM her signal started playing up, she only gets one bars or nothing at all wherever she goes. 2 bars on rare cases.
So I put her phone completely back to stock and still same problems. Tried a lot of modems too. Some make it worse some just the same.
Does anyone have a solution for this? Her warranty is voided due to Knox :/
Please help out guys!
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Dial *#1234# and attach the screenshot.
Joku1981 said:
Dial *#1234# and attach the screenshot.
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Thanks what now lol
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AndroidInsanity said:
Thanks what now lol
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Can u try to set it up your apn mate or go to setting >More network and check if the apn is set.
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Repulsa said:
Can u try to set it up your apn mate or go to setting >More network and check if the apn is set.
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I am on three network. It wasn't selected but i selected it, waited and rebooted, not difference :/
IF you have no other ideas or solutions, if someone knows, can someone recommend a modem? I tried most of them but might of missed a good one out that works well in UK.
? Any Ideas?
AndroidInsanity said:
I am on three network. It wasn't selected but i selected it, waited and rebooted, not difference :/
IF you have no other ideas or solutions, if someone knows, can someone recommend a modem? I tried most of them but might of missed a good one out that works well in UK.
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You have the correct modem. The problem is that exactly. You flashed a lot of modems and maybe u ****ed ur phone forever. Try to:
1. Make a factory reset (Settings > Accounts > Back Up and Reset > Factory Data Reset > Reset Device > Delete All/Erase Everything)
2. Flash again same firmware BTU through ODIN (like in pic attached)
Joku1981 said:
You have the correct modem. The problem is that exactly. You flashed a lot of modems and maybe u ****ed ur phone forever. Try to:
1. Make a factory reset (Settings > Accounts > Back Up and Reset > Factory Data Reset > Reset Device > Delete All/Erase Everything)
2. Flash again same firmware BTU through ODIN (like in pic attached)
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Its now pretty much stuck on one bar now. So I have signal but its still much lower than it should be.
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[Q] Verizon OTA update, and towel root

I apologize if this has been covered, but i cannot find another situation like mine.
I have the verizon variant of the Galaxy s5
Currently on version 4.4.2
I rooted using towelroot on 4.4.2 i believe.
The verizon update came through and i completely forgot about root.
I tried to install, and it failed, then i lost root access.
Currently sitting here without root access, running towel root v3 won't work nor will changing the modstrings.
Root checker says no root,
But verizon OTA update won't work either. Get the error at the android open belly screen.
I need some help, i used to be awesome working with motorola phones, and root/unroot/restore/custom roms.
Samsung is a different story.
I need to get on the android 4.4.4 update (without tripping knox) because my bluetooth connectivity is dog ****.
Thanks for the help.
-Nick
Solution,
Plug the phone into a windows laptop (may work on mac too) update the drivers. Auto play should pop up and VZW upgrade assistant will be an option. Click on this, it's pretty much automated from this point. You will not be rooted, even though a part of my problem was i wasn't rooted, but the update was failing. So thanks to HGFireHazard. He's the man.
If you have any questions i will try to answer them.
THanks
Nick
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scarinu10 said:
I apologize if this has been covered, but i cannot find another situation like mine.
I have the verizon variant of the Galaxy s5
Currently on version 4.4.2
I rooted using towelroot on 4.4.2 i believe.
The verizon update came through and i completely forgot about root.
I tried to install, and it failed, then i lost root access.
Currently sitting here without root access, running towel root v3 won't work nor will changing the modstrings.
Root checker says no root,
But verizon OTA update won't work either. Get the error at the android open belly screen.
I need some help, i used to be awesome working with motorola phones, and root/unroot/restore/custom roms.
Samsung is a different story.
I need to get on the android 4.4.4 update (without tripping knox) because my bluetooth connectivity is dog ****.
Thanks for the help.
-Nick
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Having the same issue here. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I did a factory reset and that didn't solve the issue.
I was able to get updated to NI2. If you plug in the phone to a computer (Windows in my case), you can run the VZW Updater that Windows asks if you want to run when you first plug in the phone. From there it pretty much takes care of everything. Although obviously I'm now unrooted and will have to find a way to get that back.
Ni2? What is that.
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scarinu10 said:
Ni2? What is that.
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NI2 is the newest build from Verizon but it's the 4.4.4 you're looking for.
Ok. Thanks didn't realize it was called ni2. It does it all through the updater though on the desktop?
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scarinu10 said:
Ok. Thanks didn't realize it was called ni2. It does it all through the updater though on the desktop?
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Those are just the last 3 digits of it. That's basically how those on the forum have been distinguishing between updates is by the last 3. Yup it did everything. Once I installed the app and told it to update it did everything start to finish without any additional input from me.
How did you install the upgrade assistant. Verizon website says auto play should pop up. But it's not popping for me. USB debugging is enabled. Did you manually download it
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scarinu10 said:
How did you install the upgrade assistant. Verizon website says auto play should pop up. But it's not popping for me. USB debugging is enabled. Did you manually download it
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Are you on Windows 8 or 8.1 by chance? If so, when you plug it in you should get a pop up in the upper right hand corner that will allow you to run it.
No. Windows 7. It goes into installer mode to update drivers and then goes into media mode.
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scarinu10 said:
No. Windows 7. It goes into installer mode to update drivers and then goes into media mode.
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There should be a popup that comes up when you first plug in the device. If there isn't, that's a setting you must have changed in Windows that you will have to modify. I originally tried to find an executable to run myself as it took me a minute to find the location to run it on Windows 8.1 but I wasn't able to locate. Unless someone else can chime in you'll have to get that popup to show.
Just flipped over to my girlfriends windows 8.1 laptop. seems to be installing just fine.
Thanks for all of the help i will report back if this works.
Thanks
Nick

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