Would a custom ROM be better for the screen ? - AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin

So I have had good battery from my note 2 - recently got a s4 love it! But 65 percent of the battery is used by the screen on automatic battery. I had a custom ROM it said the screen was taking a smaller percentage of my screen. Is this a fact or was I dreaming?
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The screen using the battery is because of you, the user. When the screen is off, it uses no battery. When it is on, it is using battery.
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It all depends on the user...heres some tips ive learned to lower that precentage:
1) lower brightness (I know obvious)
2) use dark themes/wallpapers (lighter colors use up kore battery than dark ones on amoled screen...and I believe pure black actualy turns off the pixels, so a pure black background may help)
Ehh thats actually all I can think of...thought I had more lol
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graydiggy said:
The screen using the battery is because of you, the user. When the screen is off, it uses no battery. When it is on, it is using battery.
But I don't understand. I had the note 2 and had auto brightness because I want to see the phone in the day light. It never had 62 percent or 50 whatever percent using the screen. With a custom ROM I had more battery with clean rom
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It depends on your usage. I am pretty sure that your daily usage is not the same. You do not get any screen usage with the screen turned off. Screen usage comes into play when the screen is on. For instance, yesterday, my screen took up 60% of my total usage. Today it was at 45%. A custom ROM has little to do with how the screen works.
Auto brightness varies as well... Too many factors that has nothing to do with the ROM. It is all user based.
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graydiggy said:
It depends on your usage. I am pretty sure that your daily usage is not the same. You do not get any screen usage with the screen turned off. Screen usage comes into play when the screen is on. For instance, yesterday, my screen took up 60% of my total usage. Today it was at 45%. A custom ROM has little to do with how the screen works.
Auto brightness varies as well... Too many factors that has nothing to do with the ROM. It is all user based.
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Alright. Well, it said using auto brightness could save battery usage. But sometimes I have the save battery option on. Thought I'm not sure it helps more. I actually went to try and look for a post about " better battery stats" but for some odd reason, when going to it using my phone, it lags ridiculously bad! I haven't gone on a computer to see if it was in fact my phone. But, all other posts and topics are fine
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The screen will always be number one user unless you didn't use your phone that day.
Like other people said, darker (black) themes. Set the time out really short and turn on Smart Screen. Auto brightness works fine for me, or you can manually turn it lower.
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Look into other kernels and what settings to use in those kernels. I use MDOB MF3 and CHRONIC kernel and I use my xda app,internet,videos,msgs,and a bunch of other apps like even Facebook.I unplugged my phone Saturday at 10:27am and m on xda replying now at 5:09am with 57% battery.
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jball said:
Look into other kernels and what settings to use in those kernels. I use MDOB MF3 and CHRONIC kernel and I use my xda app,internet,videos,msgs,and a bunch of other apps like even Facebook.I unplugged my phone Saturday at 10:27am and m on xda replying now at 5:09am with 57% battery.
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But I thought I couldn't flash anything since having the latest update ?
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vividblu2020 said:
But I thought I couldn't flash anything since having the latest update ?
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I m sorry I didn't read in your post that u r on the stock out of the box MF3.I m MDL base and run MF3 ROM .sorry again

jball said:
I m sorry I didn't read in your post that u r on the stock out of the box MF3.I m MDL base and run MF3 ROM .sorry again
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Ohh. Yea I wanna flash a ROM and root !
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you CAN root with MF3 and its locked bootloader -- you just can't flash any other roms!

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galaxsyh kernel battery usage

kernel galaxsyh beta 6.3 very good results in first cycle or charge:good:
looks great!
100% in 6 hours... mmm is a fake.. impossible
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if you hardly use the phone of course you will have great battery life, use the phone normally so we can see the difference the kernel made.
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kofiaa said:
if you hardly use the phone of course you will have great battery life, use the phone normally so we can see the difference the kernel made.
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now is on 44% with 2 hours of screen and 1 hour 15 minuts of calls, whatsapp, web search, emails, and some sms in 24 hours
i think is a great consum and its not a fake, 6 hours, 100% without use, is a grand deepsleep and tharks for haraunjo, owner of the desing and tester friends of he........ very good job.
i used all kernels that we can find , siyah, phenomenal, speedmod, franco, darknight,chainfire, etc. and this kernels is working like in galaxy s2 siyah 2.6.7 another great work from gorkhanmoral...............
thakns to haraunjo for this kernel, i think was my obligation give this results to other owners of s3
Post your screens when you reach 5% and the on screen time etc. You've got my interest in the kernel.
Can it be flashed to stock rom? My screen is on a minimum of 4 hours a day. Do you think it would make a difference to me?
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kofiaa said:
post your screens when you reach 5% and the on screen time etc. You've got my interest in the kernel.
Can it be flashed to stock rom? My screen is on a minimum of 4 hours a day. Do you think it would make a difference to me?
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i have stock rom lh1 , u need be root and install in ur ext sd and install from recovery

Battery life problems

Is anyone else experiencing very bad battery life? I use it for five minutes and it drops 5%... Am I doing some
Thing wrong?
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Welcome to life of the S4. No youre not doimg anything wrong. The best thing I can suggest is using Juice Defender, and a Task Manager. Turning mobile data off when not in use, screen brightness at about halfway. I can squeez about 20 hours out of this phone with moderate use this way.
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You're doing something wrong if it drops one percent per minute
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You could give the new qualcomm battery app a shot... takes a few days to read your usage then starts adjusting things like app sync times etc to save your battery.
I just started trying it out. Looks promising.
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Battery life is like the only good thing about the galaxy s4. I'm so disappointed with the lag and the overall performance of the phone. But battery life lasts me the whole day. I have the At&t galaxy s4.
What's the app called?
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Right im just not sure what I am doing wrong though because I have restored my phone many times with no results.
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drucquerkellan said:
What's the app called?
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Battery Guru
Thanks
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joeybear23 said:
You could give the new qualcomm battery app a shot... takes a few days to read your usage then starts adjusting things like app sync times etc to save your battery.
I just started trying it out. Looks promising.
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From my personal experience with it, it keeps waking up my phone when it goes into deep sleep. It wastes more battery by constantly waking it than it saves me.
drucquerkellan said:
Right im just not sure what I am doing wrong though because I have restored my phone many times with no results.
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When you restore your phone, are you restoring all the apps? One bad app is all it takes. you should reset to stock, and not install any apps. Then when you see that it runs ok, install one at a time as you test.
Not sure who has lag issues, but my phone rocks. No lag here and battery life is great.
No lag here, at all... My best for battery is 3 days, with 4 and a half hours screen-time...
alphadog00 said:
When you restore your phone, are you restoring all the apps? One bad app is all it takes. you should reset to stock, and not install any apps. Then when you see that it runs ok, install one at a time as you test.
Not sure who has lag issues, but my phone rocks. No lag here and battery life is great.
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OK thanks I'll try that
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King Ding-a-ling said:
No lag here, at all... My best for battery is 3 days, with 4 and a half hours screen-time...
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Wow mine won't be on for a whole day and it'll drop down to 50%
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alphadog00 said:
When you restore your phone, are you restoring all the apps? One bad app is all it takes. you should reset to stock, and not install any apps. Then when you see that it runs ok, install one at a time as you test.
Not sure who has lag issues, but my phone rocks. No lag here and battery life is great.
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My screen time is 2 hours 3 minutes. The battery is already 28% and I just watched it drop to 26%
ALSO my screen brightness is 25%
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drucquerkellan said:
My screen time is 2 hours 3 minutes. The battery is already 28% and I just watched it drop to 26%
ALSO my screen brightness is 25%
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Keep in mind there are lots of variables at work.
Wifi vs. Cell data - Turn on Wifi and battery usage goes down a LOT - if you are in a wifi area all the time. Cellular data is a battery pig.
Weak signal area - another battery pig - i have had phones drain in 8 hours doing nothing if i had poor reception
Usage mix - Your 2.5 hours of screen time, could be good if you have screen at high brightness and are streaming cellular data (movie) and if you are also syncing email, facebook, and everything else in the background.
If you do all your data by Cellular, then 4 hours of screen time will probably be your limit. It is hard to tell if you have a wake lock issue or not, as we don't know anything else about your usage, apps that are frozen, gestures on/off, etc.
Monkz said:
From my personal experience with it, it keeps waking up my phone when it goes into deep sleep. It wastes more battery by constantly waking it than it saves me.
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Thanks I'll keep that in mind.
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drucquerkellan said:
My screen time is 2 hours 3 minutes. The battery is already 28% and I just watched it drop to 26%
ALSO my screen brightness is 25%
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What does the next screen show - when you tap on the graph - it will show screen on time and wake time.
And do you have power save mode on?

Google Services battery usage

I've had this phone for just under a week. I'm rooted, but running stock. Is Google Services supposed to be using this much battery (more than the screen)? The screen had 2 hours and 44 minutes.
Thanks for any assistance!
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Wiskid15 said:
I've had this phone for just under a week. I'm rooted, but running stock. Is Google Services supposed to be using this much battery (more than the screen)? The screen had 2 hours and 44 minutes.
Thanks for any assistance!
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My Android System uses #1. I guess they are glitches. Samsung Link was using #2 until I disabled it.
Wiskid15 said:
I've had this phone for just under a week. I'm rooted, but running stock. Is Google Services supposed to be using this much battery (more than the screen)? The screen had 2 hours and 44 minutes.
Thanks for any assistance!
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I've been seeing this also, very high Google services.. The thing is it isn't always high, just every couple days it will be my highest use of battery
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Ls1ssz28 said:
I've been seeing this also, very high Google services.. The thing is it isn't always high, just every couple days it will be my highest use of battery
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Yeah, now today Google services is way down from where it was. Strange. I guess I'll just keep an eye on it. My battery life is still amazing...
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I noticed the same thing the first couple of days I had the phone and then it stopped. Possible uploading backups to google?
I never had the issue just like many of you dont see this Android System taking up all the cpu. I wonder if that's caused by me having my GPS on and set to show my location at all times so my close friends can locate me.
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How is my battery?

Title says it all. Details about my setup are in my sig.
How does mine compare in general? I've been trying to optimize battery and performance. I think its good. But could I do better?
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You have Wi-Fi off most of the time and very little screen on. Any one can 10+ hours that way with little drain.
That's what I was thinking. When you do something like photos below and then have questions sure. But when you don't use your phone and show it means nothing.
Its not amazing but it happens.
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toxicpaulution said:
That's what I was thinking. When you do something like photos below and then have questions sure. But when you don't use your phone and show it means nothing.
Its not amazing but it happens.
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What's your configuration, if you don't mind me asking?
Just Beanstalk ATM that's it. Stock kernel and what not. No mods of any kind. Plus I work so I don't use much of my phone. Oh and brightness 100% why have such a nice screen if you can't see it?
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Update
I'm thinking about trying a GE ROM. Would you say they're better than CM?
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Stock version battery screenshots?

So I'm trying to find out if I'm the only one getting terrible life out of my battery. I used to get 16 hours + and still have 10% left. Now, it drops about 15% an hour. I use less than 25% brightness.
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Your going to need to be a bit more specific.
I averaged 4.5-5 hours screen time when I first got my phone running MDL firmware. That is running everything as is right out the box with fairly heavy data usage.
That screen shot doesn't tell you squat.
I'm new to Android and I'm starting to hate my s4. I only get 2-3hrs screen time with this phone. Battery life is very terrible. I hate the fact that you to greenify stuffs just to maximize battery life. I'm using deadly venom 8.2 on mf3. Lux dash as auto brightness (I hate the fact that you have to lower the brightness settings to get better battery life?)
I'm usually on wifi, on my better battery stats, I go 3-4.5% per hour when I'm not using it which can last the whole day but once I use it, it just eats up the batter from 15%-25%max per hour usage. Very disappointing.
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princecharlsy said:
I'm new to Android and I'm starting to hate my s4. I only get 2-3hrs screen time with this phone. Battery life is very terrible. I hate the fact that you to greenify stuffs just to maximize battery life. I'm using deadly venom 8.2 on mf3. Lux dash as auto brightness (I hate the fact that you have to lower the brightness settings to get better battery life?)
I'm usually on wifi, on my better battery stats, I go 3-4.5% per hour when I'm not using it which can last the whole day but once I use it, it just eats up the batter from 15%-25%max per hour usage. Very disappointing.
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Not to be rude but go back to the iPhone if you don't like android simple as that people on craigslist will trade an iPhone 5/5c for your gs4. You've already made several threads and comments about this right now. I get great battery life plus iOS 7 is way too colorful.
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jd1639 said:
That screen shot doesn't tell you squat.
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Yeah obviously... Sorry, this xda app could really use some updating... I tried uploading 3 pictures... That was the last one... I'll try to take another screenshot after another normal days use.
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This is my use so far...? Seem normal?
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Seems normal. Only dropped 5% in 1 hour 15 minutes in your screenshot instead of 15% you said in your first post. You could try turning off those google services you dont use.

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