The screen's refresh rate? - Nexus 7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I'm curious, what is the Nexus 7's refresh rate in Hz? I'm currently halfway through making a game, and I'm getting about 57 FPS constant. I remember the Galaxy S Captivate has a refresh rate of around 56Hz, so it wouldn't surprise me if this screen is also lower than 60, but I need to make sure in case I need some optimizations on my end. Thanks!

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Temperature limits for Legend

Hi all. Since I've looked for but didn't find a clear topic about this (sorry if I've missed it), I thought it is a good idea to see which are the normal working temperature ranges for our Legend (especially if you're overclocked).
Someone on this forum was trying to draw my attention that my temperature was (or is going to be) too high (saw it from one of the print screen I've posted in that topic), so I was wondering what should be a "normal" temperature.
Usually for my Legend the range is between 30 - 38 C degrees, the upper values when it's charging (as I understood it is normal), having a 34-35 when not charging and in use. I got as low as 22 C degrees in the morning when the phone was not touched for the whole night, but as soon as I'm using it, temperature is increasing.
I'm using a CM nightly build, OC 806 (kernel) and I was wondering if a 33-38 C degrees temperature is normal or I should overclock it a little bit lower (OC 787 for ex.)
Should I make any worries?

Very high temps when gaming/benchmarking are these normal?

Before I call up EE and ask for a replacement I would just like to check if these temps are normal and if anyone else can run the same test and check what there temp gets to on the Note 4.
Firstly my Note 4 idles at around 36 degrees C which is pretty normal from what I can see. When running the Epic Citadel Benchmark on max Quality the Temperature reached a very hot 77 degrees C before I decided to stop it and shut it down.
It also reaches temps above 70 degrees C in Grand Theft Auto Vice City aswell on max settings.
Could a couple of you guys with the Note 4 please download and run the Epic Citadel Benchmark.... and use the CpuTemp app to measure the CPU temp while its running. This app has an overlay feature so you can watch the temp while the benchmark is running and I would love to know what the max temperature is that it reaches during it so I know if my phone is normal or faulty.
I get a score of about 52fps but the temperature just seems to high to me even though my idle temp is normal.
it would be very much aprechiated thank you.
That sounds about right. I just downloaded it and ran the benchmark on High Performance and got 56.4 FPS avg and the temp was around 52 degrees (started at idle, which was about 35, 36 degrees). Actually it basically spent most of its time during the benchmark at 1.5 GHz and just over 50 degrees. Then I let it cool down a bit and ran it again on Ultra High Quality and got a 48.9 FPS avg and the temp was around 77-78 degrees, spiking to around 80, but even at 80 degrees it was still fully clocked at 2.7 GHz.
But at least for me I notice even when using a couple pop up windows to play a youtube video (music, static image) while browsing Facebook and having Messenger chat heads up that the phone heats up quite a bit, going towards and around 70 degrees the more FB posts I go down and I can see it mostly around 1.5 GHz but it's still stuttery. I use CPU temp and frequency in status bar from XPosed Framework so I did have to keep dragging the status bar down to check. I'm curious what the scrolling performance would be like using ART instead but I'd have to give up XPosed and I don't think I'm ready to do that yet.

Note 5 - CPU temperature

Hi all,
Loving the Note 5, but not loving so much how warm it seems to get in my hand, even under light/normal loading. I would be very interested to see some figures from other forum members. To make the test more accurate, I would suggest the following sequence.
MEASUREMENT 1
Close all open apps
Screen brightness 50%
Connect to WiFi (bad cell coverage might raise temperature)
Open App that allows you to see CPU thermal
Let the temperature settle down to a stable marker
Post temperature in celsius (apparently some of the apps have faulty Celsius to Fahrenheit conversion)
MEASUREMENT 2
Close all open apps
screen brightness full
Connect to WiFi (bad cell coverage might raise temperature)
Open App that allows you to see CPU thermal in the background
[*} Use camera app to film in UHD for 1 minute
Multitask switch to CPU temperature app
Read the temperature it reads immediately
Post temperature in celsius
MEASUREMENT 2
Random measurement...
Just any moment when you're doing light/normal stuff
Open the app and read the value in celsius
For me, the results are as follows:
Measurement 1 never goes below 30 degrees.
Measurement 2 was 73 degrees.
Measurement 3 is typically High 30's to high 40's.
1. 32C
2. 70C (within 5 seconds was down to 54C and within 10 seconds down to 42C)
3. 43C
Kaboose666 said:
1. 32C
2. 70C (within 5 seconds was down to 54C and within 10 seconds down to 42C)
3. 43C
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Cool very similar!
Kaboose666 said:
1. 32C
2. 70C (within 5 seconds was down to 54C and within 10 seconds down to 42C)
3. 43C
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it sounds to me that note 45 might throttle badly! anyone tried games on it? dead trigger - vain glory etc!
kamranhaghighi said:
it sounds to me that note 45 might throttle badly! anyone tried games on it? dead trigger - vain glory etc!
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I've been playing KOTOR and hearthstone without any issues or slow downs. Not sure how intensive KOTOR is though.
Kaboose666 said:
I've been playing KOTOR and hearthstone without any issues or slow downs. Not sure how intensive KOTOR is though.
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I don't know about KOTOR either but even my note 4 can handle hearthstone
kamranhaghighi said:
I don't know about KOTOR either but even my note 4 can handle hearthstone
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Just played through the tutorial thing in Vainglory and the CPU temp got up to around 60C
game ran just fine, no lag or slow downs from what I could tell.
Kaboose666 said:
Just played through the tutorial thing in Vainglory and the CPU temp got up to around 60C
game ran just fine, no lag or slow downs from what I could tell.
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Good! Maybe I would buy it if i knew i get updates and if it was cheaper!
Anyone else care to chip in? I'm starting to believe the warm in hand feeling is much more pronounced when I'm out and about and using 4G intensely (Youtube + browsing + Spotify). Here at home on WiFi it never gets as warm.
Played Angry birds 2 and PPSSPP emulator(cpu internsive) i do think that the Note 5 throttles, just like G4 or any other phone but not because of the temp, but the Interactive govenor is bugged.
I played tekken 6 on ppsspp and it played 35-50 fps with a bit of lag here and there, change to performance govenor, SAME TEMP, 60fps smooth NO LAG whatsoever, it made AB2 also way smoother.
It's the govenor that might cause the problem, not throttling.
Have to bring this back up to see if anyone is getting cpu spikes.
Coming from a nexus 6 that ran around 95°F on average. My N920T is always jumping from around 115°F to as high as 169°F. The temperature is never constant it's always going high to low. Trying to decide if I should exchange it.
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated
tb417 said:
Have to bring this back up to see if anyone is getting cpu spikes.
Coming from a nexus 6 that ran around 95°F on average. My N920T is always jumping from around 115°F to as high as 169°F. The temperature is never constant it's always going high to low. Trying to decide if I should exchange it.
Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated
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I've seen mine hit 80C (176F). This SoC just runs hot. Reminds me of Intel's mess called Haswell. Nothing to really worry about.
EtherealRemnant said:
I've seen mine hit 80C (176F). This SoC just runs hot. Reminds me of Intel's mess called Haswell. Nothing to really worry about.
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I've actually exchange that phone for a new one. The new one has a more stable temperature reading and only gets that hot in testing applications. The new one is much better. I couldn't last a day on the old phone, and it lost about 25% while I slept for 5 hours the day before I exchanged it.

Heat

Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the ASUS ROG Phone II stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Phone still gets too hot if playing game in a long hours; PUBG (Max Setting) plus live streaming using Omlet Arcade apps, and i also encounter frame drop once temperature reach 47 degree C, using Tencent Version 12GB-Ram (China ROM). Armoury Crate for China ROM doesnt have "Temperature Control" option at "Scenario Profiles" , soo maybe this is the problem? Not sure.
The rest of the user(s), please share ur thoughts and experience over here!
Pubg at hdr/extreme is the only time temps crossed 44°C. Didn't notice any throttling still. When comparing side by side with my friend's OnePlus 7T, the heat & frame drops are almost similar in everygame. Using the back cover, I could feel the warmth, but not at all uncomfortable.
Weirdly Dota Underloads at max settings was the most taxing with the highest battery drain & most frame drops, but still didn't touch 47°C. It's the Indian variant and ambient temperature was 30°C throughout.
area around the vent heats up easily during gaming. prone to game* crash due to overheating when running max gpu for extended periods of time with no ventilation(was also testing game genie livestream function tho). recommend putting some kind of case that covers the frame adjacent to the vent area for minimum discomfort.
3/10 when gpu maxed. 6~7ish when moderate load
*game is honkai impact 3 if you want to know. late-game content burns the gpu at max graphics
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Pubg at hdr/extreme is the only time temps crossed 44°C. Didn't notice any throttling still. When comparing side by side with my friend's OnePlus 7T, the heat & frame drops are almost similar in everygame. Using the back cover, I could feel the warmth, but not at all uncomfortable.
Weirdly Dota Underloads at max settings was the most taxing with the highest battery drain & most frame drops, but still didn't touch 47°C. It's the Indian variant and ambient temperature was 30°C throughout.
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Try playing pubg max setting and stream (using live stream app) or screen recording, u'll notice phone will get hot and temperature will hit 47 degree C.
Are u on WW ROM or CN ROM? Cause CN ROM doesn't have any temperature control at armoury crate
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Try playing pubg max setting and stream (using live stream app) or screen recording, u'll notice phone will get hot and temperature will hit 47 degree C.
Are u on WW ROM or CN ROM? Cause CN ROM doesn't have any temperature control at armoury crate
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WW. Yes, it heats up quickly while streaming at hdr/extreme. Touches 46°C after 35mins. Pretty sure I'll feel the heat if I remove the back cover. I'm not surprised though, since my acer nitro 7 heats up while recording pubgM at hdr, let alone streaming. Streamers might have to turn on the air-conditioner.
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WW. Yes, it heats up quickly while streaming at hdr/extreme. Touches 46°C after 35mins. Pretty sure I'll feel the heat if I remove the back cover. I'm not surprised though, since my acer nitro 7 heats up while recording pubgM at hdr, let alone streaming. Streamers might have to turn on the air-conditioner.
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I see, any frame drop u're facing when ur phone heat up like while streaming?
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Some phones are great to take camping because if you play Asphalt 8 long enough, the back warms up to the ideal temperature that can bake bread. Rate this thread to express the extent to which the ASUS ROG Phone II stays cool under extended heavy use. A higher rating indicates that even when playing strenuous games for long periods of time, the phone doesn't get uncomfortably warm.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
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Guys, ROG2 is design for heavy user gaming WITH AeroActive COOLER fan !, this parts is not include with 8GB Tencent version (Which why come with cheaper price).
For you have HEAT problem and don't have AeroActive COOLER fan,should consider buying this parts.
I am able to stream vainglory at full settings and aerocooler on and it stays at 41°c or so. The heat is never unbearable and have yet to have any game ever really drop frames to the point it was noticed. I mean 115 frames or 120 is not a big deal. I am using the worldwide version with 12gb ram and played vainglory while streaming for ~2 hours. The note 10+ was noticable in frame drops as it went from 60 to ~40 with the same setup. The heat dissipation is done quite well as far as I can see. Also the aero active cooler at max setting for the game profiles help a lot. Also charging it while doing the same thing will however make it much worse with the heat but still not hard enough on the cpu/gpu to cause concern .
I can confirm that Armoury Crate (Temperature Option) for CN & WW ROM does make the different for gameplay; Once i played PUBG with max setting and applied the temperature setting from WW armoury crate, i never encounter any frame drop once temperature hit 47 degree C.
I mean the armoury crate is not a gimmick and note that i didnt put on my active cooler when playing PUBG

Minimum brightness

You don't want to give your significant other yet another reason to yell at you while you're reading XDA in bed. Rate this thread to express what you think of the Redmi Note 9 Pro's display minimum dimness. A higher rating indicates that the display can get extremely dim, ideal for reading in very dark environments.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
Can anyone tell...
whether this phone uses PWM flickering, if so...
which brightness percentage does it start at, and what is the lowest frequency?
Does this phone use the exact same screen as the Redmi Note 6S?
That'll be all thanks
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Can anyone tell...
whether this phone uses PWM flickering, if so...
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Screen flickering / PWM not detected.
In comparison: 50 % of all tested devices do not use PWM to dim the display. If PWM was detected, an average of 18284 (minimum: 5 - maximum: 2500000) Hz was measured.
We found no evidence of PWM flickering. Response times were too high to satisfy the demands of competitive gamers
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